Daren W Posted 22 June, 2011 Author Posted 22 June, 2011 Good news. I used to buy the Beautiful South and look forward to doing so again this season. But to me it was part of the new generation of fanzines and just a little too clean. I loved the Ugly Inside, a proper fanzine, bit rough-and-ready but a real fans mag. Loads of original stuff, cartoons, tales and jokes from a lot of different contributors - I’m pretty sure Daren wrote the ‘Hugh Jardon’ column. Shame it just got too bogged down in politics towards the end. I did do the Hugh Jardon column... And I did the cartoons along with Neil Gange...
Turkish Posted 22 June, 2011 Posted 22 June, 2011 /\ oi get off here, you're supposed to be on holiday lad!
Daren W Posted 23 June, 2011 Author Posted 23 June, 2011 /\ oi get off here, you're supposed to be on holiday lad! Balcony... One litre of vodka, one litre of Bacardi, one litre of whiskey, one litre of brandy... Free wifi... Happy days...
Saints Warrior Posted 23 June, 2011 Posted 23 June, 2011 Darren, I will have a page if you need some text! Manny
Noodles34 Posted 24 June, 2011 Posted 24 June, 2011 Personally, I think it is hard to do a fanzine these days because the fan base is totally different, more middle class families etc, who frankly wont be interested. There is much more chance of being sued by the clubs, who are so much more powerful these days, and so are the players. You only have to look at the whole Giggs affair (so to speak), do you really want a multi million pound footballer on your case. So that would dilute what you could say and who you could take the **** out of. The success of the fanzines in the 80's was because of how raw and near the edge they were, and I can not see people like Darren chancing the made up bull**** that the likes of OTM and TUI did back then. One OTM cover pictured Alan McLoughlin with a comment about 'in the back pocket payments', could you do that now, or accuse the chairman of stashing the club money in his own biscuit tin? You cannot get away with it now, just too easy to sue. The new Red & White (is that what it is called?) fanzine was a a poor substitute for a fanzine, I dont mean to slag the guys off, really i dont, but it was so sterile and boring because they didnt have (for example) a picture of Alan Shearer signing a new contract with a tag line of "great player, loads of money, but still cant get a decent looking wife!" Could you do a "Hope You Die Soon" cover today? Good luck to you Darren, but I think you are wasting your time unless the demand is for match reports, pub guides and "back in my day" articles about great players for the club, Sydenham, Bates etc, but **** me, werent they boring!
The9 Posted 24 June, 2011 Posted 24 June, 2011 Personally, I think it is hard to do a fanzine these days because the fan base is totally different, more middle class families etc, who frankly wont be interested. There is much more chance of being sued by the clubs, who are so much more powerful these days, and so are the players. You only have to look at the whole Giggs affair (so to speak), do you really want a multi million pound footballer on your case. So that would dilute what you could say and who you could take the **** out of. The success of the fanzines in the 80's was because of how raw and near the edge they were, and I can not see people like Darren chancing the made up bull**** that the likes of OTM and TUI did back then. One OTM cover pictured Alan McLoughlin with a comment about 'in the back pocket payments', could you do that now, or accuse the chairman of stashing the club money in his own biscuit tin? You cannot get away with it now, just too easy to sue. The new Red & White (is that what it is called?) fanzine was a a poor substitute for a fanzine, I dont mean to slag the guys off, really i dont, but it was so sterile and boring because they didnt have (for example) a picture of Alan Shearer signing a new contract with a tag line of "great player, loads of money, but still cant get a decent looking wife!" Could you do a "Hope You Die Soon" cover today? Good luck to you Darren, but I think you are wasting your time unless the demand is for match reports, pub guides and "back in my day" articles about great players for the club, Sydenham, Bates etc, but **** me, werent they boring! You couldn't do a "hope you die soon" cover then either, as misunderstood as it was. And aside from the equally likely chance for litigation (after all, the law hasn't changed), I think your point about the different fan base is wide of the mark too, the last edition of BS I can remember was from 2005, not 1989.
Noodles34 Posted 24 June, 2011 Posted 24 June, 2011 You couldn't do a "hope you die soon" cover then either, as misunderstood as it was. And aside from the equally likely chance for litigation (after all, the law hasn't changed), I think your point about the different fan base is wide of the mark too, the last edition of BS I can remember was from 2005, not 1989. well you could, but today you would get thoroughly trounced from all media angles, the news, 606, talksport, forums etc. As for the litigation, yeah maybe the law is the same, but back in the 80's where were all these injunctions etc? Where were all these 'no win, no fee' legal entities? It is much easier to sue now than back then. And i guess footballers had a better sense of humour maybe, they weren't so iconic back then.
The9 Posted 24 June, 2011 Posted 24 June, 2011 well you could, but today you would get thoroughly trounced from all media angles, the news, 606, talksport, forums etc. As for the litigation, yeah maybe the law is the same, but back in the 80's where were all these injunctions etc? Where were all these 'no win, no fee' legal entities? It is much easier to sue now than back then. And i guess footballers had a better sense of humour maybe, they weren't so iconic back then. That would shift a few copies.
the stain Posted 25 June, 2011 Posted 25 June, 2011 Get Deppo to write a column and you'll sell 10x as many.
LostBoys Posted 25 June, 2011 Posted 25 June, 2011 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beautiful-South/132974926781057 HTH NB 140 likes before this link. DOH 141 now
Daren W Posted 30 June, 2011 Author Posted 30 June, 2011 Just a quick note that if anyone fancies submitting an article then pm me on here within the next two weeks or so....
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