dune Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 UKIP's Nigel Farage meets the great unwashed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 nice little vid there dune...at the start I got the impression the youths were up for a right old verbal tear up...then they actually liked what he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 nice little vid there dune...at the start I got the impression the youths were up for a right old verbal tear up...then they actually liked what he said He speaks sense. It's as simple as that. Far too many politicians nowadays have self interest at the core of their actions. Nigel is an honest conviction politician and he understands that far from uniting Europe, the EU is now dividing Europe. These are his comments this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 on the matter of Europe and the general unrest/problems in the EU...Mr Farage is spot on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 How sweet. delldays and dune have fallen in love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 on the matter of Europe and the general unrest/problems in the EU...Mr Farage is spot on... To the average German in the early 1930's, on matters of the economy , Europe, and the 'general unrest', Hitler was 'spot on'. Farage is just a political chancer who is placing himself in a position to ride the crest of the wave he thinks is coming into view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 To the average German in the early 1930's, on matters of the economy , Europe, and the 'general unrest', Hitler was 'spot on'. Farage is just a political chancer who is placing himself in a position to ride the crest of the wave he thinks is coming into view. really...hitler...farage..? christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 To the average German in the early 1930's, on matters of the economy , Europe, and the 'general unrest', Hitler was 'spot on'. Farage is just a political chancer who is placing himself in a position to ride the crest of the wave he thinks is coming into view. and pockets £2m a year in doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 really...hitler...farage..? christ Xenophobia & isolationism, so yes Hitler, ( when he was elected to the Reichstag he didn't do it on a platform of 'lets' have a holocaust' and 'free holidays in the Ukraine for every able bodied man' ), and Farage can be compared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Xenophobia & isolationism, so yes Hitler, ( when he was elected to the Reichstag he didn't do it on a platform of 'lets' have a holocaust' and 'free holidays in the Ukraine for every able bodied man' ), and Farage can be compared. wow....I guess we can now relate any modern day politician to hilter or any other despot to make a point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 wow....I guess we can now relate any modern day politician to hilter or any other despot to make a point It's all about finding which levers you can pull to manipulate the electorate into believing you have THEIR best interests at heart, when in fact you are building your own powerbase from which to stake your claim to the Imperial throne. As the Romans put it: 'Bread and Circuses'. Hitler was, and Farage is deluded enough to think he might be, a consumate politician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 It's all about finding which levers you can pull to manipulate the electorate into believing you have THEIR best interests at heart, when in fact you are building your own powerbase from which to stake your claim to the Imperial throne. As the Romans put it: 'Bread and Circuses'. Hitler was, and Farage is deluded enough to think he might be, a consumate politician. You've just described the typical behavior of every politician I've ever known - are they all comparable to Hitler or just the ones you don't like ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 I don't think some people can handle the fact that he was right about Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 It's all about finding which levers you can pull to manipulate the electorate into believing you have THEIR best interests at heart, when in fact you are building your own powerbase from which to stake your claim to the Imperial throne. As the Romans put it: 'Bread and Circuses'. Hitler was, and Farage is deluded enough to think he might be, a consumate politician. im sure if anyone could be bothered....(dune..?) could quickly list a few traits that would make you think milliband and balls were himler and hitler incarnate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 im sure if anyone could be bothered....(dune..?) could quickly list a few traits that would make you think milliband and balls were himler and hitler incarnate The fascists of the future will be called anti-fascists. Winston Churchill. Comrade Badger is a perfect illustration of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 and youtube clip, in three, two, one....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 You've just described the typical behavior of every politician I've ever known - are they all comparable to Hitler or just the ones you don't like ? It's amazing how people completely miss the point when it's convenient to do so. This has nothing to do with Hitler the tyrant. Farage is a Little Englander with a phobia of Europeans, and has hung his hat on a certain peg in the hope of garnering support from those parts of the electorate who are easily manipulated, ( as Dunce would put it 'sheeple' ). Hitler, in the 1920's and 1930's manipulated the deep underlying nationalistic sentiments of the Volk and built on their aspiration for a Greater Germany. It was exactly the same sort of political smoke and mirrors. The fact that he had a personal ulterior motive was kept hidden - do you honestly think he would have got elected on a platform of invading Poland and Russia ? A similar trick was perpetrated on the British electorate by Tony Bliar, who like all other politicians before and since, stood up and promised one thing, then proceeded to deliver something completely different. The current lot have taken it to the extreme by delivering a complete Government that wasn't even presented as an option on the ballot paper. And for the record I hold all politicians equally in the same low esteem, regardless of the colour of the ribbon they sport - after all, even WSC was self serving enough to switch sides when it suited him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 The fascists of the future will be called anti-fascists. Winston Churchill. Comrade Badger is a perfect illustration of this. Beware the Red under the bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 and youtube clip, in three, two, one....... Is this what you had in mind ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYIU09o1gsI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Is this what you had in mind ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYIU09o1gsI The NAZI anthem is actually a really stirring piece of music. Here's yours you Commie bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Stain, you're timing is off. Slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 (edited) The NAZI anthem is actually a really stirring piece of music. Here's yours you Commie bastard. I prefer this one, you fascist pig ! Or even this ( Come to think of it, the communist Russian anthem is soooo much better than that bloody dirge God Save the Queen ) Edited 11 July, 2011 by badgerx16 Can't use a rude word to refer to Lilibet, can we you naughty naughty boy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 I quite like Gibraltars anthem. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKgFJOLVAbQ BTW as an aside I hope they win their fight against the Spanish fascists who are fighting their application to join UEFA. [video=youtube;luG-Zh_pYxs] [video=youtube;jyjd-q6S-fA] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 That's right dunce old boy, cling to the remnants of the Empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 That's right dunce old boy, cling to the remnants of the Empire. you are being a bit weird on this thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 you are being a bit weird on this thread.... More than usual ? It does seem to have wandered off track somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 I don't think some people can handle the fact that he was right about Europe. Who, Farage or Hitler ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Has anyone ever been to Gibraltar? It's an absolute sh*thole. And nobody has ever heard of customer service there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Has anyone ever been to Gibraltar? It's an absolute sh*thole. And nobody has ever heard of customer service there. have been many times..and it is a complete dump... I once had a poo outside the market tavern bar....got arrested too for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Has anyone ever been to Gibraltar? It's an absolute sh*thole. And nobody has ever heard of customer service there. I love the place. The fact that it's little piece of Empire that is loyal to the core. The people are also really friendly. I'm actually staying there this year before visiting Spain and staying before returning. I'd thoroughly recomend it and can't wait to visit the siege tunnels which have recently opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 have been many times..and it is a complete dump... I once had a poo outside the market tavern bar....got arrested too for it I think your two sentences are related in ways you've yet to fully comprehend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 I think your two sentences are related in ways you've yet to fully comprehend. one of the worst acts of drunken stuper was in Goa...I saw someone masterbate a Bull.....the locals were not amused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 one of the worst acts of drunken stuper was in Goa...I saw someone masterbate a Bull.....the locals were not amused Go on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Soooo, about those public pensions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 the locals were not amused Was the bull amused???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Soooo, about those public pensions? Aparently, if we all vote UKIP then that nice Mr Farage will take us out of Europe and all the money that saves us will be enough to compensate for any theoretical 'black hole' that might exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 The people are also really friendly. No they aren't. The people are the least friendly people in the entire world. And I think I'd know better than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 It's an absolute sh*thole. I love the place. It figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 No they aren't. The people are the least friendly people in the entire world. And I think I'd know better than you. The Liberal Elite always know better than ayone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 (edited) Ones who have family in Gibraltar and have spent months of their lives there do. Edited 11 July, 2011 by the stain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 The Liberal Elite always know better than ayone else. But you're a Liberal. We established that yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Ones who have family in Gibraltar and have spent months of their lives their do. Maybe it's your attitude. I've always found the people to be very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 It's amazing how people completely miss the point when it's convenient to do so. This has nothing to do with Hitler the tyrant. Farage is a Little Englander with a phobia of Europeans, and has hung his hat on a certain peg in the hope of garnering support from those parts of the electorate who are easily manipulated, ( as Dunce would put it 'sheeple' ). Hitler, in the 1920's and 1930's manipulated the deep underlying nationalistic sentiments of the Volk and built on their aspiration for a Greater Germany. It was exactly the same sort of political smoke and mirrors. The fact that he had a personal ulterior motive was kept hidden - do you honestly think he would have got elected on a platform of invading Poland and Russia ? A similar trick was perpetrated on the British electorate by Tony Bliar, who like all other politicians before and since, stood up and promised one thing, then proceeded to deliver something completely different. The current lot have taken it to the extreme by delivering a complete Government that wasn't even presented as an option on the ballot paper. And for the record I hold all politicians equally in the same low esteem, regardless of the colour of the ribbon they sport - after all, even WSC was self serving enough to switch sides when it suited him. If you really think Hitler's "ulterior motives" were in any way kept hidden from public view then you've obviously never studied 'Mein Kampf' which (if memory serves) was filled with vile antisemitism and a pathological hatred of Communism. Genocide and invading 'Mother Russia' may not have been explicitly detailed but that assumes these policy's were fully thought out in the first place - my reading of the chaotic administration of Nazi Germany leads me to question that assumption. I recommend you view Laurence Rees's superb TV series "The Nazies - a Warning from History" or the read books of Sir Ian Kershaw. As for the NSDAP's 1933 election victory I seem to recall they got about 30% of the popular vote - so he didn't quite 'fool' everyone did he ? Your comparison between what was certainly one of the great criminal's of world history and a minor politician who as far as I'm aware has never harmed so much as a fly is simplistic if not absurd - little short of character assassination in fact. Indeed this type of argument demeans its author and insults the memory of the real victims of fascism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Maybe it's your attitude. I've always found the people to be very nice. Yes, but you are quite a hateful person so you are probably judging them against yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Your comparison between what was certainly one of the great criminal's of world history and a minor politician who as far as I'm aware has never harmed so much as a fly is simplistic if not absurd - little short of character assassination in fact. Indeed this type of argument demeans its author and insults the memory of the real victims of fascism. It's the sort of comment one expects of Badger. Well said Charlie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Yes, but you are quite a hateful person so you are probably judging them against yourself. Well if they don't like you they go up in my estimations even more. I'd suggest this shows good judgement on their part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 If you really think Hitler's "ulterior motives" were in any way kept hidden from public view then you've obviously never studied 'Mein Kampf' which (if memory serves) was filled with vile antisemitism and a pathological hatred of Communism. Genocide and invading 'Mother Russia' may not have been explicitly detailed but that assumes these policy's were fully thought out in the first place - my reading of the chaotic administration of Nazi Germany leads me to question that assumption. I recommend you view Laurence Rees's superb TV series "The Nazies - a Warning from History" or the read books of Sir Ian Kershaw. As for the NSDAP's 1933 election victory I seem to recall they got about 30% of the popular vote - so he didn't quite 'fool' everyone did he ? Your comparison between what was certainly one of the great criminal's of world history and a minor politician who as far as I'm aware has never harmed so much as a fly is simplistic if not absurd - little short of character assassination in fact. Indeed this type of argument demeans its author and insults the memory of the real victims of fascism. Well thought out response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 The fascists of the future will be called anti-fascists. Winston Churchill. Comrade Badger is a perfect illustration of this. Churchill also said that those who endlessly quote others are idiots. Wise words even if he refused to take the salute from my great grandad after the war for being the Merchant Navy To you dunce, the fact Churchill once said this must be the same as if MLT told me I was **** a football. I'd be gutted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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