Carling Cup - Home to Torquay

[The9]

- Carling Cup First Round Draw

The draw for the first round of the Carling Cup has been made, and it is as follows:

Rochdale v Chesterfield

Port Vale v Huddersfield Town

Rotherham United v Leicester City

Hull City v Macclesfield Town

Hartlepool United v Sheffield United

Leeds United v Bradford City

Doncaster Rovers v Tranmere Rovers

Walsall v Middlesbrough

Barnsley v Morecambe

Accrington Stanley v Scvnthorpe United

Derby County v Shrewsbury Town

Oldham Athletic v Carlisle United

Bury v Coventry City

Sheffield Wednesday v Blackpool

Burnley v Burton Albion

Preston North End v Crewe Alexandra

Nottingham Forest v Notts County

Brighton & Hove Albion v Gillingham

AFC Bournemouth v Dagenham & Redbridge

Ipswich Town v Northampton Town

Cheltenham Town v Milton Keynes Dons

Bristol Rovers v Watford

Plymouth Argyle v Millwall

Oxford United v Cardiff City

West Ham United v Aldershot Town

Southampton v Torquay United

Charlton Athletic v Reading

Portsmouth v Barnet

Stevenage v Peterborough United

Southend United v Leyton Orient

Wycombe Wanderers v Colchester United

Hereford United v Brentford

Exeter City v Yeovil Town

Bristol City v Swindon Town

Crystal Palace v Crawley Town/AFC Wimbledon

 

Ties will be played during the week commencing 8th August 2011.

 

 

Seen it before...

Edited 16 June, 2011 by The9

[Griffo]

What a ****ing **** draw.

[The9]

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[Glasgow_Saint]

Local derby!

[Liquidshokk]

After the 8k turn out against Swindon in the JPT and the awful awful atmosphere I think I'll give this boring game a miss.

[hamster]

Not Pompey then.

 

This is actually a nice little earner for Torquay so I'm happy for them to go out to us, the eventual winners.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Get behind the team! need to make this a sell out imo

[The9]

If nothing else it maintains our bizarre record of being drawn at home wherever possible in every competition since playing Northampton away in the 2010 FA Cup 2nd Round.

 

Or something like that. We've had something like 14 successive home draws in JPT/League Cup and FA Cup now.

[farawaysaint]

Woohoo! Fantastic draw! Also this booze is amazing!

[The9]

Not Pompey then.

 

This is actually a nice little earner for Torquay so I'm happy for them to go out to us, the eventual winners.

 

No, nor any of the other sides that were seeded and we couldn't possibly play, nor any of the teams in the Northern section, etc.

[ChrisPY]

lol@Brum f*cking the draw up by qualifying for europe.

[The9]

Now on the OS, which will probably lead to someone starting another thread...

 

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2377155,00.html

[The9]

lol@Brum f*cking the draw up by qualifying for europe.

 

Which they did by winning the Carling Cup, lolz.

 

Bit harsh on AFC Wimbledon though, having to play bloody horrible Crawley who have the funding of a top four League One side and already had to put up with them dominating the Conference all of last season.

[spakes]

Nice to see Scott Bevan come back to his home town

[hamster]

No, nor any of the other sides that were seeded and we couldn't possibly play, nor any of the teams in the Northern section, etc.

 

[saintscottofthenortham]

**** f*****g home draw AGAIN! if it was away i'd have gone, but I won't bother with this one. Great draw for Aldershot.

[stevegrant]

Which they did by winning the Carling Cup, lolz.

 

Bit harsh on AFC Wimbledon though, having to play bloody horrible Crawley who have the funding of a top four League One side and already had to put up with them dominating the Conference all of last season.

They could have avoided a preliminary round by keeping Fulham (who probably won't get through three qualifying rounds) in the second round, rather than give them a bye as well. We don't normally get an extra European place for the fair play league.

[The9]

 

I'm afraid you'll just have to assume I thought you were that stupid.

[scott_saints]

Any geeks got any stats for the amount of home draws in the last few years? I honestly doubt any team has had more than us!!

[SNSUN]

Good draw for Gillingham there.

 

Torquay again - me vs my Dad. Lovely.

[The9]

They could have avoided a preliminary round by keeping Fulham (who probably won't get through three qualifying rounds) in the second round, rather than give them a bye as well. We don't normally get an extra European place for the fair play league.

 

It's also arguable that those two specific clubs should have been in the Prelim., why not a random Southern section draw amongst the unseeded clubs ? No reason to include the Northern section in it, as all the affected sides are Southern.

 

Still, there's another match for you to go to !

[The9]

Any geeks got any stats for the amount of home draws in the last few years? I honestly doubt any team has had more than us!!

 

I've been counting, just going to recheck it, but we're in double figures and given that the probability of us getting even 7 successive home draws is 1/132 and we've had about 14, so I'm not going to bother checking anyone else's !

Edited 16 June, 2011 by The9

[Bailey]

Nice to see Scott Bevan come back to his home town.

 

Just joined Bristol Rovers!

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13703945.stm

[The9]

Nov 2009 : Northampton A in FA Cup R2 was the last away draw.

 

Taking out the two-legged JPT Area Final v MK and the Final at Wembley in early 2010, Saints' home draws since then :

 

1 ) Norwich JPT4 Dec 2009

2 ) Luton FAC3 Jan 2010

3 ) Ipswich FAC4 Jan 2010

4 ) Portsmouth FAC5 Feb 2010

5 ) AFC Bournemouth CCup1 Aug 2010

6 ) Bolton CCup2 Aug 2010

7 ) Swindon JPT1 Sep 2010

8 ) Shrewsbury FAC1 Nov 2010

9 ) Cheltenham FAC2 Nov 2010

10) Blackpool FAC3 Jan 2011

11) Man U FAC4 Jan 2011

12) Torquay CCup1 Aug 2011

 

That includes 7 successive FA Cup home draws !

 

Add to that 2009/10's home draws against Northampton (CCup1), Birmingham (CCup2), Torquay (JPT2) and Charlton (JPT3) BEFORE the Northampton FAC2 away (which was preceded by Bristol Rovers away in FAC1), plus 2008/9's Man U FAC3 draw which was the last Cup game of the previous season and we've had 17 out of 19 possible home draws since Jan 2009.

 

Even the two-legged JPT Area Final saw us with the preferred home match in the second leg.

Edited 16 June, 2011 by The9

[doddisalegend]

Was anyone really expecting something earth shattering? I might go if the price is low. I quite enjoyed (in a masochistic way)Cheltenham in the FA cup last season, SMS was about 3/4 empty and f ucking cold.

[JRM]

Leeds v Bradford a bit tasty.

 

I hope AFC Wimbledon beat Crawley so they get to go back to Selhurst Park!!!

[The9]

Forest v Notts County should be fun for them too.

[Lighthouse]

Nov 2009 : Northampton A in FA Cup R2 was the last away draw.

 

Taking out the two-legged JPT Area Final v MK and the Final at Wembley in early 2010, Saints' home draws since then :

 

1 ) Norwich JPT4 Dec 2009

2 ) Luton FAC3 Jan 2010

3 ) Ipswich FAC4 Jan 2010

4 ) Portsmouth FAC5 Feb 2010

5 ) AFC Bournemouth CCup1 Aug 2010

6 ) Bolton CCup2 Aug 2010

7 ) Swindon JPT1 Sep 2010

8 ) Shrewsbury FAC1 Nov 2010

9 ) Cheltenham FAC2 Nov 2010

10) Blackpool FAC3 Jan 2011

11) Man U FAC4 Jan 2011

12) Torquay CCup1 Aug 2011

 

That includes 7 successive FA Cup home draws !

 

Add to that 2009/10's home draws against Northampton (CCup1), Birmingham (CCup2), Torquay (JPT2) and Charlton (JPT3) BEFORE the Northampton FAC2 away, plus 2008/9's Man U FAC3 draw which was the last Cup game of the previous season and we've had 17 out of 18 possible home draws since Jan 2009.

 

Even the two-legged JPT Area Final saw us with the preferred home match in the second leg.

 

We played Bristol Rovers away in the first round of the FA CUP 2 years ago, the round before we played Naints away.

[The9]

We played Bristol Rovers away in the first round of the FA CUP 2 years ago, the round before we played Naints away.

 

Good point, I'll edit.

 

You'd think I'd remember, given that I went.

[Lighthouse]

Good point, I'll edit.

 

You'd think I'd remember, given that I went.

 

Dry side or wet side?

[The9]

Dry side or wet side?

 

There wasn't a dry side - I was in the front row of the beer marquee stands, directly below a gap in the guttering, which was extremely wet in its own right.

[Shroppie]

Nov 2009 : Northampton A in FA Cup R2 was the last away draw.

 

Taking out the two-legged JPT Area Final v MK and the Final at Wembley in early 2010, Saints' home draws since then :

 

1 ) Norwich JPT4 Dec 2009

2 ) Luton FAC3 Jan 2010

3 ) Ipswich FAC4 Jan 2010

4 ) Portsmouth FAC5 Feb 2010

5 ) AFC Bournemouth CCup1 Aug 2010

6 ) Bolton CCup2 Aug 2010

7 ) Swindon JPT1 Sep 2010

8 ) Shrewsbury FAC1 Nov 2010

9 ) Cheltenham FAC2 Nov 2010

10) Blackpool FAC3 Jan 2011

11) Man U FAC4 Jan 2011

12) Torquay CCup1 Aug 2011

 

That includes 7 successive FA Cup home draws !

 

Add to that 2009/10's home draws against Northampton (CCup1), Birmingham (CCup2), Torquay (JPT2) and Charlton (JPT3) BEFORE the Northampton FAC2 away (which was preceded by Bristol Rovers away in FAC1), plus 2008/9's Man U FAC3 draw which was the last Cup game of the previous season and we've had 17 out of 19 possible home draws since Jan 2009.

 

Even the two-legged JPT Area Final saw us with the preferred home match in the second leg.

 

Quite impressive. I make it roughly a 1 in 3000 chance.

[saintmatt]

Quite impressive. I make it roughly a 1 in 3000 chance.

 

 

 

1/4096 (I have a calculator)

[Shroppie]

1/4096 (I have a calculator)

 

171/524288 actually. I have a calculator too, and a degree in maths. (the chance of exactly 2 away draws and 17 home draws in 19)

[The9]

1/4096 (I have a calculator)

 

Just to clarify that's for 12 home draws in a row, as opposed to 17/19.

[Shroppie]

Just to clarify that's for 12 home draws in a row, as opposed to 17/19.

 

Accepted that's right.

[captainchris]

Come on Shef Weds too........Well capable of beating that overated, loud mouth, bad loosing tw t from the relegated chumps that wear orange....Sorry, who are they 'playing every week' now??? Ummmmm ..........Could be a case of 'Championship - you're having a laugh!

[Huffton]

With the hike in prices and considering what a boring draw that is it wouldn't hurt the club to let season tickets holders in for free to this one.

[Matthew Le God]

With the hike in prices and considering what a boring draw that is it wouldn't hurt the club to let season tickets holders in for free to this one.

 

It would when they have to agree the price with Torquay United. Why would Torquay accept Saints season ticket holders getting in for free and them missing out on a cash boost?

 

Also, why is it "boring"? I like to watch Saints win, they have a good chance to win this tie and progress to the 2nd round.

Edited 16 June, 2011 by Matthew Le God

[Huffton]

It would when they have to agree the price with Torquay United. Why would Torquay accept Saints season ticket holders getting in for free and them missing out on a cash boost?

 

Also, why is it "boring"? I like to watch Saints win, they have a good chance to win this tie and progress to the 2nd round.

 

Fair point re the ticket pricing, hopefully they will have agreed a sensible price. I find it boring as we only played a year or so ago, plenty of other teams we could have drawn against who I would be far more interested in seeing us play.

[Matthew Le God]

Fair point re the ticket pricing, hopefully they will have agreed a sensible price. I find it boring as we only played a year or so ago, plenty of other teams we could have drawn against who I would be far more interested in seeing us play.

 

In any case, the tickets are likely to be very cheap for this game, it may even be the first home game of the season which will boost the attendance.

 

Nearly 11,000 for the Carling Cup 1st round tie against League Two opposition Northampton in 2009/10. Which is a huge figure for that stage of the competition against a lower league club. 17,000 against Bournemouth a year later in the 1st round, of course boosted because of a "derby" and large numbers of travelling fans.

 

The Torquay game may well see figures similar to the Northampton game in 2009. 10k or 11k in the League Cup first round against a League Two team is huge.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Ticket prices will be £16 adult. You heard it here first.

[sperm_john]

massive game

[Dark Munster]

If nothing else it maintains our bizarre record of being drawn at home wherever possible in every competition since playing Northampton away in the 2010 FA Cup 2nd Round.

 

Or something like that. We've had something like 14 successive home draws in JPT/League Cup and FA Cup now.

 

If true, the odds of that happening are 1 in 16384. Might as well enjoy it while we can: unlikely to happen again in our lifetimes!

[VectisSaint]

What a ****ing **** draw.

What did you expect? Given the seeding and the regionalisation. Actually I like it, Torquay have always been my second club, just a shame they will be knocked out in the 1st round.

I think some people would only think it was a good draw if we were drawn to play ourselves.

 

I think Wimbledon and Crawley should protest, how can it be fair that they were drawn to play each other, and to have to play before the League season has even started.