benjii Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 I happen to know people who work on it Sergei. They are the vanguard of the socialist revolution. Made in Chelsea is the death knell of capitalism and trust fund kids. Don't be a plank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 he is amongst an ever shortening list of people who saw action in WW2..that is enough for me to make him great Really? There must've been some right ****s on our side in WW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 Does he give a sh*t about other WW2 vets dying in scabby care homes in their own p*ss? Doubt it. Like it, very very well put J. Let's not forget that he is an ambassadorial figure for many of the real heroes who he has nothing whatsoever in common with. Apart from maybe they like the odd canapé at Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 Does he give a sh*t about other WW2 vets dying in scabby care homes in their own p*ss? Doubt it. Like it, very very well put J. Let's not forget that he is an ambassadorial figure for many of the real heroes who he has nothing whatsoever in common with. Apart from maybe they like the odd canapé at Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfield Saint Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 ^There was an uncomfortable number of nazi sympathisers right here in Britain during WW2, sadly. That c*nt mosely got run out of our very own city as soon as he got off the tram in the Avenue according to an eighty-odd year old mate who was there, he had to hole up for protection from a lynch mob in the church opposite the Cowherds and got shipped out again under police escort. According to my friend, Southampton was the first place mosely got any real grief, I feel somehow proud of our city for that. I thought that the rewriting of history was Hollywood's role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfield Saint Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 ^There was an uncomfortable number of nazi sympathisers right here in Britain during WW2, sadly. That c*nt mosely got run out of our very own city as soon as he got off the tram in the Avenue according to an eighty-odd year old mate who was there, he had to hole up for protection from a lynch mob in the church opposite the Cowherds and got shipped out again under police escort. According to my friend, Southampton was the first place mosely got any real grief, I feel somehow proud of our city for that. I thought that the rewriting of history was Hollywood's role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 Who would people rather share a beer with I wonder? Pip or Greer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 Who would people rather share a beer with I wonder? Pip or Greer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 Like it, very very well put J. Let's not forget that he is an ambassadorial figure for many of the real heroes who he has nothing whatsoever in common with. Apart from maybe they like the odd canapé at Christmas. Yes real insight from Jonnyboy. Superbly put, a true intellectual heavyweight. Did he care about those Tsunami victims in Japan, or Baby P or Madeleine. Doubt it. What a bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 Like it, very very well put J. Let's not forget that he is an ambassadorial figure for many of the real heroes who he has nothing whatsoever in common with. Apart from maybe they like the odd canapé at Christmas. Yes real insight from Jonnyboy. Superbly put, a true intellectual heavyweight. Did he care about those Tsunami victims in Japan, or Baby P or Madeleine. Doubt it. What a bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 Yes real insight from Jonnyboy. Superbly put, a true intellectual heavyweight. Did he care about those Tsunami victims in Japan, or Baby P or Madeleine. Doubt it. What a bastard. People are not lauding him for being a tsunami survivor or childrens campaigner, but for seeing action in WW2 (albeit on a boat). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 People are not lauding him for being a tsunami survivor or childrens campaigner, but for seeing action in WW2 (albeit on a boat). what do you mean by that...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 People are not lauding him for being a tsunami survivor or childrens campaigner, but for seeing action in WW2 (albeit on a boat). Yes it was much easier on a boat during the war. 'Action' was different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 My grandfather was a naval officer in WW2 so get off your high horses numpties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 People are not lauding him for being a tsunami survivor or childrens campaigner, but for seeing action in WW2 (albeit on a boat). Because the Atlantic convoys were a doddle, not to mention the runs to Murmansk. Piece of ****** they were. 'kin had it right easy did the RN/RNR/RNVR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 Depends. Submarine service lost more percentage if it's men than any other branch of the forces... Or something like that Anyway none of us were there so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 My grandfather was a naval officer in WW2 so get off your high horses numpties. Then you should no better than to make such a w@nkerish statement. Especially as a number of posters on here are ex RN who saw service in the Falklands and Gulf War I. I lost family on HMS Hood and HMS Barnham so suggesting the RN had it easy makes you a c**t IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 (edited) Because the Atlantic convoys were a doddle, not to mention the runs to Murmansk. Piece of ****** they were. 'kin had it right easy did the RN/RNR/RNVR. Don't forget the Merchant Navy. My Great Gandad worked the Atlantic Convoys and to his dying die would lambast Chuchill for not taking the salute during the victory parades from them: he sat down as they marched past and looked away - what a disgusting insult that must have been! My Grandad informs me that he would have spat on Churchill if he had seen him in the street and tells me that he used to say "I fed that fat bastard for five years and he wouldn't even stand up!" Edited 11 June, 2011 by Thorpe-le-Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 Then you should no better than to make such a w@nkerish statement. Especially as a number of posters on here are ex RN who saw service in the Falklands and Gulf War I. I lost family on HMS Hood and HMS Barnham so suggesting the RN had it easy makes you a c**t IMHO. The Hood still sends a shudder down my spine. The last of the three survivors died in the last year or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 Don't forget the Merchant Navy. My Great Gandad worked the Atlantic Convoys and to his dying die would lambast Chuchill for not taking the salute during the victory parades from them: he sat down as they marched past and looked away - what a disgusting insult that must have been! My Grandad informs me that he would not have spat on Churchill if he had saw him in the street and tells me that he used to say "I fed that fat bastard for five years and he wouldn't even stand up!" The convoys would have been horrific. All that bravery without the glamour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 Don't forget the Merchant Navy. My Great Gandad worked the Atlantic Convoys and to his dying die would lambast Chuchill for not taking the salute during the victory parades from them: he sat down as they marched past and looked away - what a disgusting insult that must have been! My Grandad informs me that he would have spat on Churchill if he had seen him in the street and tells me that he used to say "I fed that fat bastard for five years and he wouldn't even stand up!" Totally. As a nipper we often used to go to the ex-servicemans club on Archers Rd and I often chatted to blokes who'd been torpedoed on convoy duty. As I got older and gained a greater understanding of what these poor sods went through my admiration of them grew and grew. My family have a long maritime history, both merchant and RN and anyone whose been at action stations on a ship will tell you, when the shooting starts it's a 'kin scary place to be and those blokes did it for weeks on end, for years. Braver men than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 Totally. As a nipper we often used to go to the ex-servicemans club on Archers Rd and I often chatted to blokes who'd been torpedoed on convoy duty. As I got older and gained a greater understanding of what these poor sods went through my admiration of them grew and grew. My family have a long maritime history, both merchant and RN and anyone whose been at action stations on a ship will tell you, when the shooting starts it's a 'kin scary place to be and those blokes did it for weeks on end, for years. Braver men than me. indeed..over the years in my time in have met countless people that were in the falklands...on the ardent, sheffield, sir galahad etc god knows how many people who were involved at the pointy end of Op Corporate...not so much now though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 indeed..over the years in my time in have met countless people that were in the falklands...on the ardent, sheffield, sir galahad etc god knows how many people who were involved at the pointy end of Op Corporate...not so much now though I am not yet forty but the first time I watched Remembrance Sunday there was an old boy who had fought in the Boer war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 indeed..over the years in my time in have met countless people that were in the falklands...on the ardent, sheffield, sir galahad etc god knows how many people who were involved at the pointy end of Op Corporate...not so much now though Couple of Falkland vet's on here, including an AB® radar who was on watch when the exocet hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 Couple of Falkland vet's on here, including an AB® radar who was on watch when the exocet hit. my mates uncle was on the ardent and he featured heavily in the book "through fire and water"...the story of HMS Ardent..(which lost more 5 of its men than any other unit in the conflict).... basically, on the way back on the canberra (or QE2 cant remember which)..the night before they got into southampton, load of page 3/glamour girls were brought on..and in the book one of his old oppos gave an account of how they both trapped a pair of glamour girls... well, in 2002, the 20 year celebrations in plymouth, the book was given to all the returning crew of HMS Ardent in the dockyard etc... his wife (then girlfriend) got on the first train home and asked for a divorce after finding out he was nobbing some bird the night before he came home...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 how am I looking for an arguement..that is my belief....I have met god knows how many vets in my time and I have nothing but the greatest of greatest respect for them..no matter what their up bringing is... of course except for nazis..I respect those who are allies..british..why would I think nazis are legends..? what an odd post Better to differentiate between Nazis and German soldiers...maybe? Bravery is not exclusive to any one side. Fair enough he did his bit and shoudl be respected for it, but so did about 2 million others all told, who never had the life of luxury he had... so not really sure what marks him out as anything special... apart form an accident of Birth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 Better to differentiate between Nazis and German soldiers...maybe? Bravery is not exclusive to any one side. Fair enough he did his bit and shoudl be respected for it' date=' but so did about 2 million others all told, who never had the life of luxury he had... so not really sure what marks him out as anything special... apart form an accident of Birth?[/quote'] A life of luxury has nothing to do with his service during WW2. Death was not one to doff his cap and choose his victims based on class. I dislike Phillip and royality in general but that doesn't stop be understanding or recorgnising his service in WW2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 11 June, 2011 Share Posted 11 June, 2011 I thought that the rewriting of history was Hollywood's role I will ask him again and post a link if its available. He is an 80-something year old chap and said he was there when it happened, he still works at the Mayflower. I have no reason to disbelieve him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 12 June, 2011 Share Posted 12 June, 2011 Then you should no better than to make such a w@nkerish statement. Especially as a number of posters on here are ex RN who saw service in the Falklands and Gulf War I. I lost family on HMS Hood and HMS Barnham so suggesting the RN had it easy makes you a c**t IMHO. Calm down dear, I was implying that in recent history the higher your rank the easier time you tend to get. Yes that was a poorly put couple of words, and to be fair he didnt seem to get any preferential treatment, but if we go to war I bet the safest place to be is whereever the Queen and Dave Cameron are hanging out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 12 June, 2011 Share Posted 12 June, 2011 Calm down dear, I was implying that in recent history the higher your rank the easier time you tend to get. Yes that was a poorly put couple of words, and to be fair he didnt seem to get any preferential treatment, but if we go to war I bet the safest place to be is whereever the Queen and Dave Cameron are hanging out. You are slagging people off in hypothetical situation. If you do some reserach you will find that the King and Quieen stayed in London during the Blitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 12 June, 2011 Share Posted 12 June, 2011 Calm down dear, I was implying that in recent history the higher your rank the easier time you tend to get. Yes that was a poorly put couple of words, and to be fair he didnt seem to get any preferential treatment, but if we go to war I bet the safest place to be is whereever the Queen and Dave Cameron are hanging out. sorry..but no matter what rank you are on board a ship/submarine, the threat/danger is exactly the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 12 June, 2011 Share Posted 12 June, 2011 sorry..but no matter what rank you are on board a ship/submarine, the threat/danger is exactly the same That's true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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