angelman Posted 14 June, 2011 Posted 14 June, 2011 If they were law abiding, tax paying citizens and left any area as they found it i don't think most people would mind so much where they went/go. But they aren't and they don't, so thats why most people get real ****ed with them and the legal system that doesn't/can't hold them to account. Exactly. Even if they weren't tax paying, people would be more tolerant if they didn't rob and leave the place looking like a **** hole. Why can't they clean up after themselves? They seem to be moving my way - haven't had any on our place for about 15 years or so but got a funny feeling....!!!
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 14 June, 2011 Posted 14 June, 2011 Exactly. Even if they weren't tax paying, people would be more tolerant if they didn't rob and leave the place looking like a **** hole. Why can't they clean up after themselves? They seem to be moving my way - haven't had any on our place for about 15 years or so but got a funny feeling....!!! Get the muckspreaders out.
Saint-scooby Posted 14 June, 2011 Posted 14 June, 2011 Just took a drive over there, looks like they are on their way, old bill was out in force 3 or 4 vans, the council had a guy up there picking up the mess, so looks like they will pop up again somewhere soon. same story wherever they go !
mightysaints Posted 14 June, 2011 Author Posted 14 June, 2011 Simple fact is do not employ them to do any work. They will soon p**s off if theres no money to be had. Just heard the plod are getting them off Stoneycross in the New Forrest. How much is this all costing. Also perm sites will not work as they will be destroyed. Anyone who says we should have these sites well if so would you want these scum next to you.
mickn Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 Simple fact is do not employ them to do any work. They will soon p**s off if theres no money to be had. Just heard the plod are getting them off Stoneycross in the New Forrest. How much is this all costing. Also perm sites will not work as they will be destroyed. Anyone who says we should have these sites well if so would you want these scum next to you. Just been told by the warden who runs 2 traveller sites in Hampshire that they are now in Whiteley Business Park
warsash saint Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 There a bunch of the vermin just rolled into a field at the top of Titchfield Hill on the A27
Hatch Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 Someone I work with, his next door neighbours had a load of stinking pikeys move into one of his fields. As the field was surrounded completely by a ditch, he just parked his effing great big combine harvester thing across the entrance and just refused to let them enter or leave. The pikeys ended up calling the police but he stood his ground. Eventually they all agreed to leave after about 2 days. Became someone elses problem.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 Cards on table, where should travellers/gypsies go? No NIMBY'isms, where should they live? In caravan parks.
mickn Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 There a bunch of the vermin just rolled into a field at the top of Titchfield Hill on the A27 There is a house there that has now got permission to open a permanent site for them
angelman Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 Well at least they are moving Eastwards towards a place where they must surely feel more at home.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 Burn the b*stards I think the SS had that idea...only after they gassed them of course. tit.
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 I think the SS had that idea...only after they gassed them of course. tit. Bit strong, and obviously I don't wish them dead I agree. They, however, IMO deserve absolutely nothing, how could anyone who has such a blatent disregard to property and other people have the privalages they recieve ?? Disgusting really. Any other members of society that would carry out their misdemeanors would be locked up. Do you not agree ?
benjii Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 I think the SS had that idea...only after they gassed them of course. tit. He never said burn them to death. Maybe he just means burn them a bit until they toe the line. I think we can all endorse that as a sensible and proportionate response.
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 He never said burn them to death. Maybe he just means burn them a bit until they toe the line. I think we can all endorse that as a sensible and proportionate response. I should have said, singe the sh*ters ?
benjii Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 I should have said, singe the sh*ters ? I singed someone's hair with a Bunsen burner once. It was an accident.
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 I singed someone's hair with a Bunsen burner once. It was an accident. I singed my ars* once trying to light a fart.
dune Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 I singed someone's hair with a Bunsen burner once. It was an accident. I had one thrown at me. By a teacher.
Saint-scooby Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 What's wrong with burning them, nobody likes them apart from inner city labour councillors and gypsy spokesmen and channel 4 programe makers
Chin Strain Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 Just been told by the warden who runs 2 traveller sites in Hampshire that they are now in Whiteley Business Park They sure are - in the old Abbey building car park apparently
hamster Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 Is there even a smidgen of jealousy here at their anarchic/free lifestyle? Just a smidgen?
Chin Strain Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 Is there even a smidgen of jealousy here at their anarchic/free lifestyle? Just a smidgen? Nope....if I was going to have a free lifestyle it wouldn't involve sh1tt1ing in a car park.
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 Is there even a smidgen of jealousy here at their anarchic/free lifestyle? Just a smidgen? Not really, just the fact that these sorts of pikeys are a bunch of c*nts and are better off out of our society.
scotty Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 Is there even a smidgen of jealousy here at their anarchic/free lifestyle? Just a smidgen? Yes, I'd love to be able to go and "grab" a girl of 12 and bang the living shlt out of her because my free and anarchic peers said it was ok, then nip out in my untaxed stolen motor to break into a few locals houses for beer money. That would be great.
hamster Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 Thought as much. It does sound like a bit of a viscous circle though; treat someone like crap, but why be surprised when they behave like social outcasts?
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 Thought as much. It does sound like a bit of a viscous circle though; treat someone like crap, but why be surprised when they behave like social outcasts? I agree they are not all bad, but surely you realise the trail of destruction they leave in their wake ?? Surely ? I really do not understand why some defend them, is it just to be PC ?
scotty Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 Thought as much. It does sound like a bit of a viscous circle though; treat someone like crap, but why be surprised when they behave like social outcasts? They are social outcasts, by definition. Their chosen social sphere is that of "travellers", they only have fellow travellers to socialise with. How can you build a social network of friends and neighbours when you only park up somewhere nearby for a few weeks and shlt in their fields?
scotty Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 grabbing looks like fun Depends whether youre doing it or are the object of it I suppose.
Thedelldays Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 Depends whether youre doing it or are the object of it I suppose. well, I spect it will now be frowned upon after the recent "slut walk"
hamster Posted 15 June, 2011 Posted 15 June, 2011 Certainly not 'trying to be PC'. They don't tend tomdrive untaxed stolen vehicles by the way and I'm fairly certain that you'll find most burglaries are carried out by 'locals' known to the police. Apart from taking a dump in a field (who's never done that?) and leaving a bit of hardcore about, I reckon it's the cash in hand work ethic that riles many. That cash however does get spent and therefore re-enters the system.
Dimond Geezer Posted 16 June, 2011 Posted 16 June, 2011 Certainly not 'trying to be PC'. They don't tend tomdrive untaxed stolen vehicles by the way and I'm fairly certain that you'll find most burglaries are carried out by 'locals' known to the police. Apart from taking a dump in a field (who's never done that?) and leaving a bit of hardcore about, I reckon it's the cash in hand work ethic that riles many. That cash however does get spent and therefore re-enters the system. I don't remember ever taking a dump in a field (not as an adult anyway), and it was reported that 15 tonnes of waste was removed from the New Forest (paid for by New Forest tax payers). Slightly more than "a bit of hardcore".
spyinthesky Posted 16 June, 2011 Posted 16 June, 2011 Certainly not 'trying to be PC'. They don't tend tomdrive untaxed stolen vehicles by the way and I'm fairly certain that you'll find most burglaries are carried out by 'locals' known to the police. Apart from taking a dump in a field (who's never done that?) and leaving a bit of hardcore about, I reckon it's the cash in hand work ethic that riles many. That cash however does get spent and therefore re-enters the system. Hammie I reckon most reasonable people would be sympathetic to 'Travellers' if they were not so aggressive and/or actually tidied up after themselves. One of the things I can't quite fathom if they are true 'Travellers' they cant have a permanent address. How do they then register,tax and insure their vehicles?
warsash saint Posted 16 June, 2011 Posted 16 June, 2011 a bit of hardcore . Understatement of the day !
Saint-scooby Posted 16 June, 2011 Posted 16 June, 2011 Truth is, if these travellers parked up anywhere near your home or on your land you would want them out. knowing full well how to manipulate the laws they do it better than any driveway they have ever done.
rich saints Posted 18 June, 2011 Posted 18 June, 2011 saw the pavement division truck wuth caravan coming down wincester rd yesterday full of kids and on phone looking for a new site!!
warsash saint Posted 18 June, 2011 Posted 18 June, 2011 About 30/40 of them still camped out at the top of Titchfield Hill on A27 when I went out at 6 tonight .... nappies, rubbish, Plasma TV boxes (!) all chucked over the fence lining the road. When I returned home at 10 tonight the whole of the scum had disappeared with more rubbish & soil left behind!!
Whitey Grandad Posted 18 June, 2011 Posted 18 June, 2011 saw the pavement division truck wuth caravan coming down wincester rd yesterday full of kids and on phone looking for a new site!! A group of them turned up at the bottom of Ensign Way, Hamble on Friday. They've taken over the parking spaces of the industrial units.
derry Posted 19 June, 2011 Posted 19 June, 2011 I can never understand once they are illegally trespassing on a site, the landowner just blocks them in. Rather than trying to get them out, stop them from getting out. They then can't lay their tarmac etc. When they have cleaned up, filled up and paid for the skips blocking the entrances they would be allowed to leave. Until then no access, they would soon think twice about squatting. Nice idea, but if they have the tools to do half the "jobs" they do, and days of being blocked in, I'm sure they would manage to get out again Someone I work with, his next door neighbours had a load of stinking pikeys move into one of his fields. As the field was surrounded completely by a ditch, he just parked his effing great big combine harvester thing across the entrance and just refused to let them enter or leave. The pikeys ended up calling the police but he stood his ground. Eventually they all agreed to leave after about 2 days. Became someone elses problem. Until the law bans them from trespassing they should be blocked in, the Police, HMRC, DVLC etc etc should then go through them with a fine tooth comb for any law breaking which in itself would act as a deterrent.
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