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What do you normally get from managers when a player is sent off?

 

Question the decision? Didn't see it? Defend the player saying he didn't mean it?

 

Quite refreshing to hear JP say how good it was for Lancashire to commit a professional foul to save the team. Not great sport ethics! But what all managers -and us -would think!

 

http://m6live.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/3779879.Lancashire_did_right_thing_getting_sent_off___Poortvliet/

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What do you normally get from managers when a player is sent off?

 

Question the decision? Didn't see it? Defend the player saying he didn't mean it?

 

Quite refreshing to hear JP say how good it was for Lancashire to commit a professional foul to save the team. Not great sport ethics! But what all managers -and us -would think!

 

http://m6live.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/3779879.Lancashire_did_right_thing_getting_sent_off___Poortvliet/

"“I am very happy with Ollie Lancahsire because by conceding that free kick he made us a point. He had to give away that free kick and he got sent off."

 

Definitely refreshing but it did make me wonder when I read it whether he is in danger of falling foul of the 'bringing the game into disrepute' laws by overtly condoning the professional foul.....

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Definitely refreshing but it did make me wonder when I read it whether he is in danger of falling foul of the 'bringing the game into disrepute' laws by overtly condoning the professional foul.....

 

thought the same!

 

(could you please edit my quote to hide my error!)

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thought the same!

 

(could you please edit my quote to hide my error!)

 

Done - I have changed 'Cork' to 'Lancashire' as requested.....your secret is safe with me.....:D

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Done - I have changed 'Cork' to 'Lancashire' as requested.....your secret is safe with me.....:D

 

What secret? Oh, wait ;)

 

Anyway, why would you get punished for saying a professional foul was good? Is the FA crazy? Its called a professional foul, it is part of the game. Its what makes the game interesting as well....

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(b) PLAYERS SENT OFF UNDER LAW 12 (7)

A Player who is dismissed from the Field of Play for receiving a second

caution in the same match will be suspended automatically from all approved

First Team matches commencing forthwith, until such time as his Club’s First

Team has completed its next match in an approved Competition.

© PLAYERS SENT OFF UNDER LAW 12 (4) and (5)

A Player who is dismissed from the Field of Play for denying a goal or an

obvious goal-scoring opportunity by physical means or by handling the ball,

will be suspended automatically from all approved First Team matches

commencing forthwith, until such time as his Club’s First Team has

completed its next match in an approved Competition

so one game whether straight red of two yellows as not violent etc

(g) ADDITIONAL SENDINGS OFF

Players dismissed from the field of play for a second time or who have been

previously suspended under the Standard Directions set out in Schedule A of

these Regulations in the same Season, in addition to the automatic

suspension applicable to the offence, will be suspended for one extra match.

Each subsequent dismissal for a player previously dismissed or suspended

under the Standard Directions at Schedule A in the same season will incur a

further extra match ban. This means that the total suspension imposed will

include an extra game for each previous dismissal or suspension under the

Standard Directions. For example, this means that a player dismissed for a

third time in the same season, or suspended twice under the Standard

Directions at Schedule A and dismissed once, will be suspended for an extra

two matches and so on.

For the purposes of this regulation a previous dismissal in a non FTCM will

only be taken into account where it was for violent conduct, serious foul play

or spitting

 

looks like two

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(b) PLAYERS SENT OFF UNDER LAW 12 (7)

A Player who is dismissed from the Field of Play for receiving a second

caution in the same match will be suspended automatically from all approved

First Team matches commencing forthwith, until such time as his Club’s First

Team has completed its next match in an approved Competition.

© PLAYERS SENT OFF UNDER LAW 12 (4) and (5)

A Player who is dismissed from the Field of Play for denying a goal or an

obvious goal-scoring opportunity by physical means or by handling the ball,

will be suspended automatically from all approved First Team matches

commencing forthwith, until such time as his Club’s First Team has

completed its next match in an approved Competition

so one game whether straight red of two yellows as not violent etc

(g) ADDITIONAL SENDINGS OFF

Players dismissed from the field of play for a second time or who have been

previously suspended under the Standard Directions set out in Schedule A of

these Regulations in the same Season, in addition to the automatic

suspension applicable to the offence, will be suspended for one extra match.

Each subsequent dismissal for a player previously dismissed or suspended

under the Standard Directions at Schedule A in the same season will incur a

further extra match ban. This means that the total suspension imposed will

include an extra game for each previous dismissal or suspension under the

Standard Directions. For example, this means that a player dismissed for a

third time in the same season, or suspended twice under the Standard

Directions at Schedule A and dismissed once, will be suspended for an extra

two matches and so on.

For the purposes of this regulation a previous dismissal in a non FTCM will

only be taken into account where it was for violent conduct, serious foul play

or spitting

 

looks like two

 

 

He better not get send off again, that will automatically mean 3 matches (or 5 if its violent conduct)!

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(g) ADDITIONAL SENDINGS OFF

Players dismissed from the field of play for a second time or who have been

previously suspended under the Standard Directions set out in Schedule A of

these Regulations in the same Season, in addition to the automatic

suspension applicable to the offence, will be suspended for one extra match.

This is the key part. Two-match ban for Lancashire, I reckon.

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"“I am very happy with Ollie Lancahsire because by conceding that free kick he made us a point. He had to give away that free kick and he got sent off."

 

Definitely refreshing but it did make me wonder when I read it whether he is in danger of falling foul of the 'bringing the game into disrepute' laws by overtly condoning the professional foul.....

 

I smell desperation from JP if he's saying that sort of thing. Also - now he's said this every CCC referee in the division will now watch Saints for professional fouls. So benefit of the doubt unlikely to follow us now... we are officially a cheating side.

 

JP is a fekking idiot. Congratulations muppet... or should I say puppet?

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I smell desperation from JP if he's saying that sort of thing. Also - now he's said this every CCC referee in the division will now watch Saints for professional fouls. So benefit of the doubt unlikely to follow us now... we are officially a cheating side.

 

JP is a fekking idiot. Congratulations muppet... or should I say puppet?

 

you are quite obsessive in looking for criticism. Every ref looks out for professional fouls, get real it's no revelation saints player used sneaky foul on edge of box tactic, no other team does this best look out for it! You look very silly with posts like this

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I smell desperation from JP if he's saying that sort of thing. Also - now he's said this every CCC referee in the division will now watch Saints for professional fouls. So benefit of the doubt unlikely to follow us now... we are officially a cheating side.

 

JP is a fekking idiot. Congratulations muppet... or should I say puppet?

 

Oh yes because those refs are so naive and don't think anyone else commits professional fouls do they. I'm afraid in your desperation to find something to complain about JP about you're making yourself sound foolish. Oh, and puppet, that's great did you think that up all by yourself? You are one funny guy.

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some on here have different views and put a fair across

 

some you get exasperated as they disagree but refuse to offer any reasoned debate

 

then there are posts like SaintRobbie's above -and you just have to smile and feel sorry for him

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I can answer was it a straight red or not. When he commited the foul the referee ran to him showwed a yellow card and then a red as it was his second bookable offence.

 

Lucky not to get a straight red but so was Watford's keeper on Saturday.

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by looks of it straight red -as professional foul not violent etc would have had same punishment

 

Eh! did you not read my post. The referee showed him a yellow and then red. It was shown on SkySportsNews.

Posted
some on here have different views and put a fair across

 

some you get exasperated as they disagree but refuse to offer any reasoned debate

 

then there are posts like SaintRobbie's above -and you just have to smile and feel sorry for him

 

You seemed to have turned into the internet police today. He has backed his opinion up, I think he's got it wrong but it’s a valid opinion.

You are so intolerant of people who think differently to you.

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Eh! did you not read my post. The referee showed him a yellow and then red. It was shown on SkySportsNews.

 

Did you not read his post he wasn't disagreeing with you just saying what the punishment would have been.

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Eh! did you not read my post. The referee showed him a yellow and then red. It was shown on SkySportsNews.

 

sorry did read yours, mine wasn't clear, realise it was 2nd yellow, point I was trying to make (and failing!) was just about ruling as I posted earlier -had it been straight red for professional foul that incurs same punishment

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You seemed to have turned into the internet police today. He has backed his opinion up, I think he's got it wrong but it’s a valid opinion.

You are so intolerant of people who think differently to you.

 

you should be banned for this! No problem with different opinions but come on that was just being silly

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I smell desperation from JP if he's saying that sort of thing. Also - now he's said this every CCC referee in the division will now watch Saints for professional fouls. So benefit of the doubt unlikely to follow us now... we are officially a cheating side.

 

JP is a fekking idiot. Congratulations muppet... or should I say puppet?

 

Do refs not normally watch for professional fouls then?

 

I smell desperation from someone looking to attack our manager.

 

As for him being a "fecking idiot", well, he wouldn't be alone in that...

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