Music

[farawaysaint]

I'm a fairly young man so this isn't one of those "when I was a young lad we used to walk 50 miles to school in 6 ft of snow" posts but is it just me or is all modern music really awful? It seems that every song released recently has just been a remix or cover of an older, (and often far superior,) version. Can anyone really say that they think that in 50 years time people will still be listening to this music as it has stood the test of time? Personally I don't think there are many bands around now that have any real staying power whatsoever. For curiosities sake; I'm not a music nazi and will happily listen to just about any genre, (except House which is frankly pants, a 10 minute loop of the same drum track does not a song make.) Can anyone give examples of modern music which they think is truly revolutionary? Educate me if I'm an ignorant heathen by all means.

[Whitey Grandad]

Don't ask me, I was a teenager in the sixties and it's all been downhill since then.

[dubai_phil]

There is a lot of utter garbage being released today IMHO.

 

But there are also a huge amount of really great songs and artistes as well.

 

Think it depends what Radio station you listen to. If I had to judge on "UAE radio" I'd agree wholeheartedly as all they play down here is R&B Hip Hop & Justin Bieberesque stuff. But when you go deeper there are some good songs even in that genre.

 

And House comes in many forms and even at our age in the right place at the right time with your mates after beers getting your hands in the air and dancing like a dad to House can be great. Just IMHO that stuff shouldn't be on every radio station.

 

The 60's and 70's used to have one hit wonders as well you know :-)

 

Just need to be selective

 

How long have Coldplay been going? Kings of Leon even?

 

Beyonce (arrgh) has actually been going for ages (and should have known better than her latest garbage)

 

Madge has been out Madged by Gaga and she ain't going away in a hurry, her new album is a really good mix of styles

 

 

 

Please note, the post was an intense attempt to avoid sounding like my Dad in the mid-late 70's, which the OP managed to do.

[Verbal]

Don't ask me, I was a teenager in the sixties and it's all been downhill since then.

 

There've been a few things worth listening to since the Beatles split up. Swedish House Mafia (my son's favourite...what are they? Band?) aren't one of them, surely.

[JackFrost]

The top 40 these days basically consists of 39 black blokes each singing drippy songs about women and Gaga lady or whatever it is

[Rory]

Need to explore a bit. The internet is your friend. You need to ignore radio/tv music and open up your ears and clean out your eyes. Music is still exciting.

[Lighthouse]

I'm sure there's loads of cool stuff out there for those with the patience to look for it. Main stream music is, in general, sh*te.

 

- Black people desperate to be a cliche

- White people desperate to be black people

- Soulless pop records by bland reality TV "winners"

- Utterly pointless cover versions which massacre classic hits.

- Blokes in skinny jeans and a hat who use hair straighteners, who think they're new and unique because their band is called 'Mongolian super marmalade and they have sampled an idling lawnmower on their latest single.

- Laddy Gaga

[LVSaint]

- Laddy Gaga

 

I think there is evidence to prove he is a lad, yes.

[Griffo]

Without getting accused of being racist, it's all a load of **** R&B stuff these days.

[dubai_phil]

So an old fart...

 

Looks at this year's Glasto Line up.

 

I've heard of about 8 bands out of 350 or so.

 

So I started googling. I find to my surprise I had actually seen about 10 of the bands at Glasto. I do more and watch MTV for a couple of days, turns out I know around 30 of the bands/acts and they actually play really great music

 

U2, Morrisey, Big Audio Dynamite, the Guillemots, Metronomy, Mike Posner, Coldplay, White Lies, Friendly Fires, Queens of the Stone Age, Kaiser Chiefs, The Vaccines, Noisettes, Foster the People, The Wombats, Pendulum, Elbow.

 

Almost all of those have a new album out at the moment, but apart from Coldplay & U2 I reckon NONE of them get played on local radio down here. How fecking catchy sing a long is the Wombats "Tokyo" - nobody here has heard of it.

 

When I last went 2 years back I found myself in a tent when a band came on and the crowd went totally nuts after two notes leaping in the air and singing every word to a song I had never heard before. They were La Roux. I came back told my Hypnotist buddy who used to be a DJ to get his mates to check them out - whoosh all over the radio & they were the local number one in days.....

 

So basically the DJ's/radio stations have software now. Most of the software is made in the US. It creates automated playlist based on a either the Top 40 or Billboard 100. They have very little idea during the day what is being picked by the computer from the MP3 files.

 

Want to listen to music? give up the radio, google, you Tube or go to Jango (or I think Spotify) type in the name of a band you like and it will give you music of that similar nature all day long - far better than listening to the sh1te on the radio

[Lighthouse]

I think there is evidence to prove he is a lad, yes.

 

That was deliberate, but thanks anyway.

[doddisalegend]

What is modern though? a year old? five years old? 10 years old?

 

I haven't really bought much new music since the 90s ended.

[badgerx16]

Without getting accused of being racist, it's all a load of **** R&B stuff these days.

True R&B is Rythm & Blues, the type of stuff you are referring to is just the evil spawn of Soul & Disco.

[MongoNeil]

I'm a fairly young man so this isn't one of those "when I was a young lad we used to walk 50 miles to school in 6 ft of snow" posts but is it just me or is all modern music really awful? It seems that every song released recently has just been a remix or cover of an older, (and often far superior,) version. Can anyone really say that they think that in 50 years time people will still be listening to this music as it has stood the test of time? Personally I don't think there are many bands around now that have any real staying power whatsoever. For curiosities sake; I'm not a music nazi and will happily listen to just about any genre, (except House which is frankly pants, a 10 minute loop of the same drum track does not a song make.) Can anyone give examples of modern music which they think is truly revolutionary? Educate me if I'm an ignorant heathen by all means.

 

Don't make the mistake of thinking you know a genre because of what you hear in the charts, most commercial music is pants but get into the lesser known stuff and there's a few gems.

[jjsaint]

Yes and no. The Top 40 is a sewer full of nothing but sh*te. However, there's lots of new and exciting stuff popping up. Acts outside the 'mainstream' are now able to market themselves through the Internet.

[Doctoroncall]

I've found Metacritic is a pretty good site to find out a bit about music. I agree with Phil though, you'll be hard pressed to find a radio station playing alternative music (i.e. not pop), the days of John Peel are long gone. Radio 6 was good at the start, but it's been a while since I listen to it.

[sambosa75]

U2, Morrisey, Big Audio Dynamite, the Guillemots, Metronomy, Mike Posner, Coldplay, White Lies, Friendly Fires, Queens of the Stone Age, Kaiser Chiefs, The Vaccines, Noisettes, Foster the People, The Wombats, Pendulum, Elbow.

 

 

My mate is the drummer in The Vaccines. He's a Chandlers Ford boy. They play some good stuff and have been supporting the Arctic Monkeys recently. I read some article on the NME about them being the "saviours of rock and roll". As good a lad he is and as much as I like their album, if they are the saviours of rock and roll I think we should call it a day.

 

The only "new" mainstream band that has come out in the last 5 years that will stand the test of time is the Arctic Monkeys from their first two albums which were a breath of fresh air. Their 3rd was too arty and I hope they revert to type for their upcoming 4th and sing about what they know again.

[Lord Duckhunter]

The problem I have is; am I turning into my Dad, because he thought the stuff I liked was a load of ****e, or is my children's music actually complete ****e?

 

I would say that it with a few notable exceptions (paln B being one I quite like) their music IS ****e. The difference is that I thought my Dad's music was the most boring thing around (mainly modern jazz) whereas my kids love some of the stuff I play.

 

The thing that gets to me is the sampling (I think that’s the word) of old songs, why don't they come up with some original riffs or lines?

 

Sometimes I’ll come across some good new stuff on Jools Holland, I just got into a band called Dawes via this route, but by and large I stick to the oldies that I like.

[tpbury]

Despite being in Australia, I find listening to Radcliffe & Maconie on Radio6 gives me a good mix of 'new' bands (perhaps not aimed at 20 year olds) and old classics. Adele springs to mind as being a really talented and successful singer whose oeuvre should persist over time. Plus a good few American bands (Avi Buffalo, Beach House, Fleet Foxes, Arcade Fire (not US I think - but who cares) , then lots of other good female singers and some great UK acts.

 

On the same note, you should have tried growing up in the mid 80s - finding decent music was like gold panning, and you ended up liking anything which wasn't mainstream, even tho it was probably crap all the same (Red Lorry Yellow Lorry). In the 90's, 'the kids' had loads of good music (Roses, Mondays etc) - bar stewards!

[dubai_phil]

Think I've been quite lucky. Both my boys were into Rock & "Indie Guitar Band" type music, youngest played in an Emo band for a while ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHH, but they'd leave their CD's in the car, Blur, Placebo, Blink 182, Linkin Park, White Lies, The National, The Subways and would actually happily run around the town with all their mates in the car belting out Hall & Oates or Genesis's Greatest Hits if I left one of mine in the car.

 

The middle son is always pinging me links to new bands, and in fact helped my DJ buddy create a new (finally) play list for the Dubai Rugby 7's about 4 years back as we all threatened to kill him if he ever played Amarillo/Delilah again so we had the tourists all singing Chelsea Dagger by The Fratelli's and all the old expats going WTF?

 

Youngest's mates caught me & EoA in the Mosh pit at The Subways gig thought that was funny as fook - are they as good as the Punk bands of my day? No way BUT they were good and enjoyable to listen to.

 

Again, middle son pinged an email across 2 weeks ago with a list from the Glasto sets for me to suss out. So I do maintain that there is great stuff out there, you just have to find it.

 

(Oh and also I have noticed that a hell of a lot of bands at the moment list Joy Division, as an influence. Trust me that ain't no bad thing for an Old New Order fan!)

[Hatch]

As a father of three young girls, I only get to listen to One Direction , JLS and such like.

 

You lot should thank your lucky stars.

[St Marco]

I think it happens to everyone as you get older. You sort of start paying less attention to the charts and then you never really look at it again.

 

The thing is there are some really great bands out there coming through. It is just they get little attention. As mentioned above your best bet is to join something like LastFM or Grooveshark and that will recomend music to you based on your tastes. Your always end up finding some gems from that.

 

Mainstream music is in deep **** and rightly so. The music industry is so out of touch with the modern world. Reality tv has hijacked it and because of that it makes it hard for new bands to get on tv/radio. The death of something like Top of the Pops shows how it has changed.

 

The future of music is as i mentioned above services like Grooveshark http://grooveshark.com/#/ where you just type in your music and play, no need to download anything, no need to pay anything and so on. And it will then give you suggestions to stuff you might like.

Like i was listening to The Doors on there a week or so ago (i like all music old and new) and it suggested a song called "Through my eyes" by a band called "The Creation" ( http://grooveshark.com/#/s/Through+My+Eyes/3ttKoA?src=5 ). I never heard of these guys before and thought it was a quality track. Did a bit of research into them and found out it was from the 60s and they were not famous at all really! You would of thought it was recent. But even if your not into that type of music it will always find something that you are into.

[Micky]

Guy, over fifty, love music, bought up on (influenced by), Elvis, Beatles, Stones, Manfred Mann, Slade, ELO, Clapton, Sabbath, Floyd, Eagles. Basic perception of todays music is that it generally sux. Have no time for the so called 'talent' that is X Factor or BGT. Women who take their clothes off or exploit their sexuality in order to sell music p i s s me off. If you can sing, sing. If I wanted to see a naked lady I would've visited a strip joint. Where are all the Alison Moyets / Lisa Stansfields of the female music scene?

 

Me and music, intermediate guitar player - Yamaha FG730S acoustic, Epiphone Les Paul Custom Plus and Squire Fender Telecaster (signed by Gordon Haskell (google him if you don't know)), Marshall MG30 DFX practice amp with Digitech GNX 3 guitar processer.

 

There's lots of crap about today musically, but it was the same in my day as well (Boney fukin M...!). Gotta say though - really love James Morrison, took his music to the streets and did it the hard way. Voice to absolutely die for - real class, seems a top bloke as well.

 

Thats my 10p's worth in a nutshell - could chew the fat all day about music - but the subject is just so vast, got to do some work today!

[doddisalegend]

As a father of three young girls, I only get to listen to One Direction , JLS and such like.

 

You lot should thank your lucky stars.

 

I feel your pain. My kids are chart junkies my youngest daughter thinks Justin Bieber is the greatest thing ever. My son seems to gravitate towards fit female singers (the saturdays, Nicole schzinger or what ever she's called and the ex Mrs Ashely Cole) not sure if it's the music or the videos he likes TBH.

 

All my attempts to introduce them to heavy metal, grunge, neu metal and 90s indie music has fallen on deaf ears.

[Sheaf Saint]

My personal view is that most of the mainstream music you hear these days is utter garbage, but there are still musicians making seriously good music if you have the time to look for their material. In my last job I was allowed to listen to internet radio on my headphones at my desk and I came across this site. OK it's American, and you have to put up with annoying American adverts if you don't subscribe to VIP, but the amount of stations catering to pretty much all tastes is awesome, and through this I discovered some fantastic music that would otherwise have completely passed me by.

 

My current favourite band is Bonobo. Not commercial by any stretch of the imagination (though I did hear one track on a TV advert a while back) and most people I speak to have never heard of them, yet the last two albums (Days to Come and Black Sands) are phenomenally good.

[LVSaint]

My current favourite band is Bonobo. Not commercial by any stretch of the imagination (though I did hear one track on a TV advert a while back) and most people I speak to have never heard of them, yet the last two albums (Days to Come and Black Sands) are phenomenally good.

 

Dial M for Monkey is especially good.

[Jonnyboy]

As a father of three young girls, I only get to listen to One Direction , JLS and such like.

 

You lot should thank your lucky stars.

 

Glad I dont have daughters. Most modern r n' b top 40 shyte sounds like it should be played in strip clubs. I would be worried.