miserableoldgit Posted 6 June, 2011 Share Posted 6 June, 2011 http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 6 June, 2011 Share Posted 6 June, 2011 What are you expecting? People to slag you off for being stupid enough to follow Peter Hitchens' blog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 6 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 June, 2011 I do not follow Hitchens blog. It was just an article that I read which I thought, rather naively, worthy of reasoned debate. Didn`t take long did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 6 June, 2011 Share Posted 6 June, 2011 Ignoring Hitchen, if we're talking about Wayne Bishop then yes, it is worth talking about. Remove the fact it's a Daily Mail blog from the conversation, as it's not really relevant. Probably worth changing the thread title too *if* that was the genuine intention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 6 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 June, 2011 Ignoring Hitchen, if we're talking about Wayne Bishop then yes, it is worth talking about. Remove the fact it's a Daily Mail blog from the conversation, as it's not really relevant. Probably worth changing the thread title too *if* that was the genuine intention. It genuinely was my intention to try and start a debate about this, but I also expected any debate to very quickly turn into "argument, sniping and name-calling" because a) the article came from The Mail, which always gets shouted down and b) it`s the way that all debates like this end up on this forum. I just thought that I would give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 6 June, 2011 Share Posted 6 June, 2011 Well, if you bait people even from the thread title, it's guaranteed to happen! lol As for Bishop, despite being a 'leftie' I also believe that if you break the law, then you *must* serve a punishment, irrespective of things like this. However, clearly provision needs to be made for his kids. The difficulty is that children in care are likely to be disadvantaged as a result, which is unfair on them. If our care system worked properly (and I am aware that is a big generalisation and that some care homes are quite good) then it wouldn't be such an issue, but it is and if I were the judge then I honestly don't know what other options are available. There must be some, but the dad MUST be punished in some way. The concept of suspended sentances irks me too, but then it all ties in with a bigger problem of prison overcrowding and the fact that we actually need to be working harder to rehabilitate offenders so that they don't reoffend, and work a lot harder with younger people to instil morals and values from a younger age to prevent them getting into crime in the first place. But that's a whole other conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 6 June, 2011 Share Posted 6 June, 2011 Best bit of that : " the treacherous, slippery and dishonest Tories". He's learning ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 June, 2011 Share Posted 6 June, 2011 Hitchens is one of the most odious, smarmy and patronising people I have ever had the displeasure to correspond with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 6 June, 2011 Share Posted 6 June, 2011 The bloke would not have committed the one offense and gone to jail. He would have already committed numerous other offenses and served various other "community" and other such like offenses. It's pretty hard to get sent to jail for bugulary and the like, so he should have thought of his kids then. My view has always been pretty stright forward when it comes to this. If you break into someone's property or business then you should go to jail, end of. If that means there's too many in jail, then build more jails. With clown's like Ken Clarke running the justice system in this country, expect more of this "community sentancing" nonsense. Cameron should get rid of him and put David Davis in charge. He is one man who gets the balance between civil liberties and punishment right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 6 June, 2011 Share Posted 6 June, 2011 Hitchens is one of the most odious, smarmy and patronising people I have ever had the displeasure to correspond with. Do tell..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 June, 2011 Share Posted 6 June, 2011 Do tell..... He wrote an article about childcare which I wrote to him about daring to suggest that there are two sides to every story. He replied a couple of times with long flowing sentences shouting about how he was eminently more qualified to hold his opinion due to seeing orphans in Africa despite knowing none of my qualifications or areas of expertise. I stopped replying in the end as it was pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 6 June, 2011 Share Posted 6 June, 2011 He wrote an article about childcare which I wrote to him about daring to suggest that there are two sides to every story. He replied a couple of times with long flowing sentences shouting about how he was eminently more qualified to hold his opinion due to seeing orphans in Africa despite knowing none of my qualifications or areas of expertise. I stopped replying in the end as it was pointless. Water off a duck's back to Hitchens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 June, 2011 Share Posted 6 June, 2011 Water off a duck's back to Hitchens. Most likely. Typical Daily Mail columnist. Nasty piece of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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