View From The Top Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 I've just been watching a Spitfire and Me109 doing mock dogfights over MoD Stafford before flying off towards Uttoxeter. Bloody fantastic sight and the noise of the Merlin engine is just wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 Are you sure you're not just having a flashback? Alzheimers is a cruel master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 4 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 4 June, 2011 Are you sure you're not just having a flashback? Alzheimers is a cruel master. I'll worry about that when I'm as old as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 Are you sure you're not just having a flashback? Alzheimers is a cruel master. I'd forgotten about that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 This would probably have been a better thread if you hadn't just selfishly watched the dogfight, but instead you'd filmed it for us all to enjoy! But no, you just took it all in yourself, then worse still you decided to come on here and boast about it...... Shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 This :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 I've never heard of either of these posters. Are they main boarders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 A couple years ago I took a break near Worthing on our way home from Eastbourne. There was a display of wartime aircraft overhead, very impressive flying. I filmed a bit on my phone but it was poor quality so deleted it. When I saw the news later that night they reported how one of the planes had crashed killing the occupants. I must admit, it made me feel quite uneasy. These displays IMO are best when you are not expecting them, especially Spitfires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 5 June, 2011 Share Posted 5 June, 2011 Remember years ago at my Aunts wedding outside Chichester when everyone went outside from the service a Lancaster bomber flanked by 2 spitfires went overhead from the goodwood show. Was a great sight and perfect timing for the wedding guests!! The sound was amazing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 5 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 5 June, 2011 These displays IMO are best when you are not expecting them, especially Spitfires. We weren't expecting to see this! Just heard the noise, looked over towards the MoD camp and there they were. Really wish I'd grabbed my camera and recorded it. About 15 years ago, on a warm early summer afternoon, when I lived in a different part of the town, young and old stopped everything and were just stood in the street watching a Hurricane, Spitfire and ME109 dogfight for about 30 mins over the RAF camp, quite low as well, before the roar of a Lancester bomber hit us and they formed up with if and heading off towards the NW. One of the most awe inspiring sights I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 5 June, 2011 Share Posted 5 June, 2011 Every year we get Spitfire and ME109 dogfights over Chichester as part of the Festival of Speed and Goodwood revival events. The best free airshow going!!!! FOS is in 4 weeks time, so looking forward to it. Yes, the sound of the Merlin engine is special! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 5 June, 2011 Share Posted 5 June, 2011 Remember years ago at my Aunts wedding outside Chichester when everyone went outside from the service a Lancaster bomber flanked by 2 spitfires went overhead from the goodwood show. Was a great sight and perfect timing for the wedding guests!! The sound was amazing too. Probably this :- http://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/ A Lanc, Spitfire and a Hurricane. And is normally a "flyover" by wartime aircraft at this Broadlands event in August :- http://www.eventplan.mysite1952.co.uk/blastsfromthepast.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 6 June, 2011 Share Posted 6 June, 2011 I've just been watching a Spitfire and Me109 doing mock dogfights over MoD Stafford before flying off towards Uttoxeter. Bloody fantastic sight and the noise of the Merlin engine is just wonderful. Probably both Merlins. It is likely the Messerschmitt was a Spanish Casa 112. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 6 June, 2011 Share Posted 6 June, 2011 a lone Spitfire flew overhead when my Grandads ashes were being scattered. always think of him when i hear/see one in flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 6 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 June, 2011 Interesting. Thanks for that. Would it still be dated around 1940 or before that? Probably both Merlins. It is likely the Messerschmitt was a Spanish Casa 112. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 6 June, 2011 Share Posted 6 June, 2011 I've never heard of either of these posters. Are they main boarders? Careful, that's an infraction / permanent banning / execution, right there. Please don't derail any more threads wit your attempts at so called "humour". There is only so much mourning a board can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 6 June, 2011 Share Posted 6 June, 2011 Interesting. Thanks for that. Would it still be dated around 1940 or before that? A lot of aircraft from the Spanish Air Force were used in the film 'Battle of Britain'. You can tell that the 109s have Merlins because the cowlings are different. The Daimler-Benz engines were used inverted. The book by Bob Stanford-Tuck 'Fly for your life' is a good read in which he describes flying a captured Me109 and compares it to his Spitfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 8 June, 2011 Share Posted 8 June, 2011 Interesting. Thanks for that. Would it still be dated around 1940 or before that? The correct designation was HA 1112 Buchon which was the Merlin engined model first flown in 1954. The Spanish were given a licence plus 25 airframes of the Me109 G in 1942. They were supposed to get DB 605 engines, but there weren't enough to go around, so they used an Hispano Suiza engine in the 25 airframes plus any they built after the war, until they developed the Buchon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbul Posted 8 June, 2011 Share Posted 8 June, 2011 I remember a Spitfire and an Me109 having a mock dogfight over Southampton airport ooh, must be 20+ years ago. Bl00dy fantastic to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 June, 2011 Share Posted 8 June, 2011 Probably both Merlins. It is likely the Messerschmitt was a Spanish Casa 112. Unless it was griffon engined spitfire....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 9 June, 2011 Share Posted 9 June, 2011 Anyone know the best place for mento offload an old 1970's iirc book about the history of Southampton airport? It goes right back to the early days of flying with some very good b/ w photos. A very interesting read, a bit bigger than A4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 9 June, 2011 Share Posted 9 June, 2011 Also got an engineers manaul for an old airplane engine, if I remember I'll let you know the model etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 9 June, 2011 Share Posted 9 June, 2011 Interestingly an old friend of mine flew Spitfires from 1941 until 1946, he went back to Czechoslovakia after the war with his wing of Spitfires and was the designated display pilot for the Czech airforce. All the Spitfires were made redundant and they were supplied with Avia built Me 109Gs. He then had to work out his display on the Messerschmidt. He without any advice or instruction took off and did his display routine in the 109. When he finished he landed taxied in and shut down. The engineers met him at the aircraft going frantic. One of them showed him the wings which after the display were nearly falling off. It turned out the 109G was very fragile and regularly lost it's wings after/during aerobatics/battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 9 June, 2011 Share Posted 9 June, 2011 Anyone know the best place for mento offload an old 1970's iirc book about the history of Southampton airport? It goes right back to the early days of flying with some very good b/ w photos. A very interesting read, a bit bigger than A4. Are you saying you've got one, if you have, quote me a price, I was flying out of Southampton from 1971 to 1986 I would think a lot of people in the photo's were friends of mine. I'd like to get one. (pm?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 9 June, 2011 Share Posted 9 June, 2011 Unless it was griffon engined spitfire....... Very possible but the 109 would be well outclassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 9 June, 2011 Share Posted 9 June, 2011 Are you saying you've got one, if you have, quote me a price, I was flying out of Southampton from 1971 to 1986 I would think a lot of people in the photo's were friends of mine. I'd like to get one. (pm?) Derry, have you ever reported me to the mods (hard as it is to believe, someone did), called me a **** or anything not nice? Answer honestly 'no' to all three questions and you can have it mate. Now where did I put that 'stuff for the bonfire' box? Immjust off out to Ower then shooing then the general, I could drop off now if you're en-route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 9 June, 2011 Share Posted 9 June, 2011 It's called: Solent Sky - a local history of aviation from 1908 to 1946 with special reference to SOUTHAMPTON (EASTLEIGH) AIRPORT Author PETER T. NEW Foreword by Squadron Leader L.F. Payne M.B.E. It smells gorgeous too. The other book is called: LEONIDES Mm. 12700 SERIES ENGINE CHANGE UNITS GENERAL AND TECHNICAL INFORMATION by command of the defence council for use in the royal air force. You can have first refusal on that too. Please don't ever sell them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 June, 2011 Share Posted 9 June, 2011 It's called: Solent Sky - a local history of aviation from 1908 to 1946 with special reference to SOUTHAMPTON (EASTLEIGH) AIRPORT Author PETER T. NEW Foreword by Squadron Leader L.F. Payne M.B.E. It smells gorgeous too. The other book is called: LEONIDES Mm. 12700 SERIES ENGINE CHANGE UNITS GENERAL AND TECHNICAL INFORMATION by command of the defence council for use in the royal air force. You can have first refusal on that too. Please don't ever sell them though. LOL. I have visions of Derry on Antics Roadshow now, being told that these two rare books he was given for free are worth £250,000...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 9 June, 2011 Share Posted 9 June, 2011 Interested in a VHS tape released after BAA took over? Quite likely you'd recognise a few faces in that and the buildings/ airfield/ stands may be more familiar. Derry, first refusal on the three above items pending confirmation that he hasn't called me a **** ever and has never told me to **** off. PM sent Derry, got my hands free if you want to call mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 9 June, 2011 Share Posted 9 June, 2011 I think I saw 4 spitfires fly over my house the other day. They had round wings anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 9 June, 2011 Share Posted 9 June, 2011 It's called: Solent Sky - a local history of aviation from 1908 to 1946 with special reference to SOUTHAMPTON (EASTLEIGH) AIRPORT Author PETER T. NEW Foreword by Squadron Leader L.F. Payne M.B.E. It smells gorgeous too. The other book is called: LEONIDES Mm. 12700 SERIES ENGINE CHANGE UNITS GENERAL AND TECHNICAL INFORMATION by command of the defence council for use in the royal air force. You can have first refusal on that too. Please don't ever sell them though. It definitely wasn't me. I think LF Payne was commandant of the airport after the war. I won't let them go as they are of really personal historic interest. I have the later history of the airport written in the 90s. I also flew part time from the airport after I retired. I flew the dash 8 Q400 for Flybe for a couple of years. Vivian Bellamy ran the Hampshire Aero Club later ran St Just Airport, Lands End. He flew some of the sequences in the Battle of Britain film (ex fighters Fleet Air Arm). John Fairy kept a Spitfire at Farley farm strip, he flew for Cambrian and Channel Express. Tragically killed when the engine failed on a Piston Provost he was flying. I think the engine was an Alvis Leonides similar to the manual. I met so many interesting people and heard some amazing stories in my career. The Captain of the BA Boeing 747 that lost all four engines in the ash cloud over Indonesia in 1982 sits with Weston Saint and myself at SMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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