Saint in Paradise Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 (edited) Tried to post pictures but gave up Done it after all LOL !!! Edited 22 October, 2008 by Saint in Paradise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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St Landrew Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 What an excellent set of scale pictures. Copied and saved, ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithd Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Mars is poxy. what we going there for? nice pics tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I like Jupiter. Neptune is quite cool as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I like Jupiter. Neptune is quite cool as well. Cool, it's downright bloody freezing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_O_Mac Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 nah that ain't right.. alderaan got blown up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 If I was Antares I would be lol'ing at Earth big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 What a remarkable thread, now in the following picture you can see how parts of Earth are shrinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Yes. Although I haven't researched it myself, apparently the 2007 minimum might be the extent of the shrinkage for a few years. The 2008 shrinkage was quite a bit less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Tilt your head about 35 degrees left and the 2001 picture from Bates looks like a polar bear with a bottle of coke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Yes. Although I haven't researched it myself, apparently the 2007 minimum might be the extent of the shrinkage for a few years. The 2008 shrinkage was quite a bit less. I won't turn this round to be a reference of you talking about yer wotsit. Apparently though as some lands melt, other new lands will be formed, somehow :smt108 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Tilt your head about 35 degrees left and the 2001 picture from Bates looks like a polar bear with a bottle of coke. Think you got your marketing muddled up there. Everyone knows it's a bottle of Cresta It's Frothy Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Think you got your marketing muddled up there. Everyone knows it's a bottle of Cresta It's Frothy Man Im talking about this century Philip! http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=polar%20bear%20coke&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3GGGL_enGB225GB225&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Think you got your marketing muddled up there. Everyone knows it's a bottle of Cresta It's Frothy Man You're right of course dubious old chap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Im talking about this century Philip! http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=polar%20bear%20coke&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3GGGL_enGB225GB225&um=1&sa=N&tab=wiI'm with Dubai Phil on this one. Polar Bears and fizzy drinks..? It has to be Cresta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I'm with Dubai Phil on this one. Polar Bears and fizzy drinks..? It has to be Cresta Phil, Landrew and AN Other talk about the good old days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I won't turn this round to be a reference of you talking about yer wotsit. Apparently though as some lands melt, other new lands will be formed, somehow :smt108 Doh..! This won't be because of new land being created, as you're thinking, but the existing lands having the sea encroaching, and forming new islands, for example. The Isle Of Thanet springs to mind. If you want an example of a properly new land mass being formed, then type Surtsey into Google. 45 years old next month, so it's a very young piece of land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Added to which, there will be new coastlines revealed, as the ice retreats for the very first time in 1000's of years in those areas. BTW, thank you Pancake for that little photo. If I'm the one in the centre, I'm obviously on good form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Doh..! This won't be because of new land being created, as you're thinking, but the existing lands having the sea encroaching, and forming new islands, for example. The Isle Of Thanet springs to mind. If you want an example of a properly new land mass being formed, then type Surtsey into Google. 45 years old next month, so it's a very young piece of land. Mmm, made by a volcano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 The sun would have to be my favourite, but I have always had a soft spot for Uranus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Mmm, made by a volcano Yep, and almost right on the mid-Atlantic ridge, where the sea floor is spreading at a couple of millimetres per year, and the reason for the existence of the Atlantic Ocean. If you have Google Earth, take a look at the Hawaii chain of islands, and then pull back. You should notice a line of Seamounts [to the south-east] rising from the ocean floor. These are where the Pacific plate is fairly thin, and as it passes over the mantle, there is a local area where the magma bursts through. Seamounts are fairly common, and are so named because they don't break the surface to become an island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Btw MB. You missed a fine opportunity to mention that Surtsey is younger than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Btw MB. You missed a fine opportunity to mention that Surtsey is younger than me. Yeah but then aren't most things? christ, if I had done that the list would be endless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Yeah but then aren't most things? christ, if I had done that the list would be endless. Whippersnapper..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Are Rigel and Sirus albino suns or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Whippersnapper..! Anyways enough of "The Bates & Landy Show", back on topic............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Back to the thread. Just noticed Sirius, the brightest star** in the night sky, after our own Sol, and it's tiny. Just shows how close it is to us. **yeah, forget Venus and Mars. Stars, I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Are there rings around Uranus? Sorry, someone had to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Are there rings around Uranus? Sorry, someone had to do it. Actually there are. Very astute of you to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durleyfos Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Doh..! This won't be because of new land being created, as you're thinking, but the existing lands having the sea encroaching, and forming new islands, for example. The Isle Of Thanet springs to mind. If you want an example of a properly new land mass being formed, then type Surtsey into Google. 45 years old next month, so it's a very young piece of land. Mmm, made by a volcano Went there on holiday, it was crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I'd kill myself if I was Pluto (not the Disney character!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 If I was Antares I would be lol'ing at Earth big time. Antares is a class M supergiant star, with a diameter of approximately 700 times that of the sun; if it were placed in the center of our solar system, its outer surface would lie between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. Blimey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Antares is at the upper left, the blue one is Rho Ophiuchi, down in the red is Sigma Scorpii. This picture shows an area around Antares. Antares is the brightest star in Scorpius. Given star's red-yellow color, and the fact that Mars is a similar color, Antares was given a name that means "The Rival of Mars." Antares is surrounded by a rare yellowish nebula. NGC6144 is the small globular cluster above center, while M4 is the large globular cluster on the lower right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Anyone want to buy a telescope? See buy and sell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 (edited) Sorry Seatbelt, VV Cephei kicks Antares a$s, you have failed whilst I celebrate my last minute win, and look, no Pluto VV Cephei is an eclipsing binary star system located in the constellation Cepheus, approximately 3,000 light years from Earth. A red supergiant fills the system's Roche lobe when closest to its companion blue star, the latter appearing to be on the main sequence. Matter flows from the red supergiant onto the blue companion. VV Cephei A, the supergiant, is one of the largest stars known, and believed the third largest star in this galaxy (after the hypergiant WOH G64). It is of spectral type M2 and is approximately 1,600–1,900 times the Sun's diameter. If placed in our solar system, the binary system would extend past the orbit of Jupiter and approach that of Saturn. VV Cephei is 275,000-575,000 times more luminous than the Sun. As is true for many red supergiants, a stellar wind flows off the system at a velocity of approximately 25 kilometers per second. VV Cephei A's mass estimated from its orbital motion is about 100 solar masses, but its luminosity suggests a mass 25-40 solar masses. Consequently, the actual mass is unknown. Yes, VY Canis Majoris (VY CMa) is the biggest. List of the largest stars Star name Solar radii (Sun = 1) VY Canis Majoris 1800-2100 WOH G64 2000 VV Cephei A 1600-1900 V354 Cephei 1520 RW Cephei 1260-1610 KW Sagitarii 1460 KY Cygni 1420/1440 Mu Cephei (Herschel's "Garnet Star") 1420 Betelgeuse (Alpha Orionis) 950-1000 V509 Cassiopeiae 910 V838 Monocerotis 800 V382 Carinae 747 Antares (Alpha Scorpii) 700 S Pegasi 580 S Doradus 550 T Cepheii 540 S Orionis 530 W Hydrae 520 119 Tauri 510 R Cassiopeiae 500 Delta Canis Majoris (Wezen) 482 Chi Cygni 470 Alpha Herculis (Ras Algethi) 460 Rho Cassiopeiae 450 Mira A (Omicron Ceti) 400 Eta Carinae 400 R Doradus 370 HR Carinae 350 R Leonis 350 The Pistol Star 340 La Superba (Y Canum Venaticorum) 300 Deneb (Alpha Cygni) 220 LBV 1806-20 200 Epsilon Aurigae A 175 Zeta Aurigae 160 Epsilon Pegasi (Enif) 150 Gamma Crucis (Gacrux) 113 Beta Cygni A1 109 Gamma Andromedae 83 Alpha Leporis (Arneb) 77 Rigel (Beta Orionis) 70 Epsilon Carinae 70 R Coronae Borealis 65 Canopus (Alpha Carinae) 65 Delta Orionis (Mintaka) 60 Zeta Orionis (Alnitak) 60 Alpha Persei (Mirfak) 60 Zeta Geminorum (Mekbuda) 60 Eta Aquilae 60 Gamma Draconis (Eltanin) 50 Aldebaran (Alpha Tauri) 43 Beta Ursae Minoris (Kochab) 41 Edited 22 October, 2008 by Master Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Looks like a load of balls to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Bates - since when were you a space geek! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Bates - since when were you a space geek! Since I was born and my Daddy had a telescope, remarkable things they are, actually can see the craters on the Moon, see Venus!!!!!! Space is the one place i'd love to visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Since I was born and my Daddy had a telescope, remarkable things they are, actually can see the craters on the Moon, see Venus!!!!!! Space is the one place i'd love to visit. I too have a telescope and I too have seen the craters on the moon and the rings of Saturn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I too have a telescope and I too have seen the craters on the moon and the rings of Saturn. I've never had a ring when i've sat on an urn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Since I was born and my Daddy had a telescope, remarkable things they are, actually can see the craters on the Moon, see Venus!!!!!! Space is the one place i'd love to visit. Space is one place which we'd like [you] to visit..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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saintwarwick Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Sorry Seatbelt, VV Cephei kicks Antares a$s, you have failed whilst I celebrate my last minute win, and look, no Pluto VV Cephei is an eclipsing binary star system located in the constellation Cepheus, approximately 3,000 light years from Earth. A red supergiant fills the system's Roche lobe when closest to its companion blue star, the latter appearing to be on the main sequence. Matter flows from the red supergiant onto the blue companion. VV Cephei A, the supergiant, is one of the largest stars known, and believed the third largest star in this galaxy (after the hypergiant WOH G64). It is of spectral type M2 and is approximately 1,600–1,900 times the Sun's diameter. If placed in our solar system, the binary system would extend past the orbit of Jupiter and approach that of Saturn. VV Cephei is 275,000-575,000 times more luminous than the Sun. As is true for many red supergiants, a stellar wind flows off the system at a velocity of approximately 25 kilometers per second. VV Cephei A's mass estimated from its orbital motion is about 100 solar masses, but its luminosity suggests a mass 25-40 solar masses. Consequently, the actual mass is unknown. Yes, VY Canis Majoris (VY CMa) is the biggest. List of the largest stars Star name Solar radii (Sun = 1) VY Canis Majoris 1800-2100 WOH G64 2000 VV Cephei A 1600-1900 V354 Cephei 1520 RW Cephei 1260-1610 KW Sagitarii 1460 KY Cygni 1420/1440 Mu Cephei (Herschel's "Garnet Star") 1420 Betelgeuse (Alpha Orionis) 950-1000 V509 Cassiopeiae 910 V838 Monocerotis 800 V382 Carinae 747 Antares (Alpha Scorpii) 700 S Pegasi 580 S Doradus 550 T Cepheii 540 S Orionis 530 W Hydrae 520 119 Tauri 510 R Cassiopeiae 500 Delta Canis Majoris (Wezen) 482 Chi Cygni 470 Alpha Herculis (Ras Algethi) 460 Rho Cassiopeiae 450 Mira A (Omicron Ceti) 400 Eta Carinae 400 R Doradus 370 HR Carinae 350 R Leonis 350 The Pistol Star 340 La Superba (Y Canum Venaticorum) 300 Deneb (Alpha Cygni) 220 LBV 1806-20 200 Epsilon Aurigae A 175 Zeta Aurigae 160 Epsilon Pegasi (Enif) 150 Gamma Crucis (Gacrux) 113 Beta Cygni A1 109 Gamma Andromedae 83 Alpha Leporis (Arneb) 77 Rigel (Beta Orionis) 70 Epsilon Carinae 70 R Coronae Borealis 65 Canopus (Alpha Carinae) 65 Delta Orionis (Mintaka) 60 Zeta Orionis (Alnitak) 60 Alpha Persei (Mirfak) 60 Zeta Geminorum (Mekbuda) 60 Eta Aquilae 60 Gamma Draconis (Eltanin) 50 Aldebaran (Alpha Tauri) 43 Beta Ursae Minoris (Kochab) 41 Excellent post Master Bates and all others who have contributed (not forgetting the thread starter Seatbelt) I've always been interested in space and I've learnt a lot from this thread alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 (edited) Excellent post Master Bates and all others who have contributed (not forgetting the thread starter Seatbelt) I've always been interested in space and I've learnt a lot from this thread alone. Me too. It's really difficult to appreciate the sheer scale of it all. If Earth was a grain of sand and the largest star was like a space hopper how far apart would they be? 1000 metres, 100km, more? I have no idea. Edited 22 October, 2008 by TopGun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Me too. It's really difficult to appreciate the sheer scale of it all. If Earth was a grain of sand and the largest star was like a space hopper how far apart would they be? 1000 metres, 100km, more? I have no idea. Distance is measured in light years and the distance between earth and VY Canis Majoris (the largest star) is about 5,000 light years. A light year is about 6 trillion miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrise Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I too have a telescope and I too have seen the craters on the moon and the rings of Saturn. When Venus is visible next, have a look through the 'scope at it and you should notice that it has phases, just like the Moon. If the scope is any good, you should be able to see 1 of Mars' polar caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 On a completely different but related in as much as its-to-do-with-physics-and-that's-what-makes-stars-work point...... Consider a scale model of an atom constructed on a football pitch: If the nucleus is a football in the middle of the centre circle, the electrons would be peas orbiting outside the edge of the pitch. It really is remarkable we don't fall through the floor considering that most of matter is nothing. Physics, astronomy and various other sciences are truly mind boggling, awe-inspiring and wonderful. It's a crying shame that our children aren't taught them properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Distance is measured in light years and the distance between earth and VY Canis Majoris (the largest star) is about 5,000 light years. A light year is about 6 trillion miles. Is that further than Newcastle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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