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If he was going to go, I thought he would of shown a bit more ambition than the Arsewholes and go to either Utd or Chelsea or even Liverpool and be part of their resurgence under Kenny. Wenger can't get his teams to deliver on the big occasions any more, so he better just enjoy his wages as they will be the only thing he'll have to show for his time at the new library! Especially with them selling their best player to Barca! I also doubt very much we'll be getting anything like 12 million in cash for him, will almost certainly be appearance based just like Theo. I just hope we have inserted a very large sell on clause as for getting their players on loan, no thanks! We need to be developing our own team with players to be here for the long term if the project is going to stand any chance of coming to fruition. I wish only ill favour on Arsenal for tapping our players up, which will only grow if he does go there!

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did you see OxO in the same match....? he was equally poor

 

OxO was excellent against Man Utd. Not in a gut busting sprinting past the full back kind of way, but his intelligence with the ball, against one of the best teams in the world, was amazing for a 17 year old. He always made correct decisions and clearly, as Man Utd have been linked with him since we played them, they obviously think he had a decent game too.

 

And why does everyone think we are going to have £12m to spend? If you believe the Mirror story (and I don't, one "source" is not enough to believe a story like this, especially when as mentioned by others, it was a done deal in January too and never happened) then surely you believe everything that is written in the Mirror, such as this part...

"The deal for the Southampton academy graduate - seen as the new Theo Walcott, also a former Saint - is understood to be based on achievements and appearances."

 

So that will probably be £5 up front, with £7m based on future achievements.

 

I'm gonna wait till its on the OS to believe its a done deal. Does no one learn from the way business is ran now that press speculation is generally wildly inaccurate when it comes to Saints in the Cortese era.

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Darren Lewis works for the mirror so course he's backing that story.

 

Earlier in the week AOC was going to Man U with players coming in exchange, now he's off to Arsenal. Wonder where another paper will say he is going next, Liverpool?

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Darren Lewis works for the mirror so course he's backing that story.

 

Earlier in the week AOC was going to Man U with players coming in exchange, now he's off to Arsenal. Wonder where another paper will say he is going next, Liverpool?

 

Agree, think we can safely assume he is def off regardless though!!! arse would be logical choice, just hope we get to spend the proceeds! Hope when OXO goes, we have a top name same day to appease fans and replace him!!

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saintbenny

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If this is true then good luck to the lad, it's a shame to lose him but it's a cracking deal for saints. 12 mil for a 17 year old who has had one full season under his belt in what is essentailly the old 3rd division is complete madness and goes to show that football is losing it's mind. With this money we can buy 3/4 cracking players for our promotion push...let's hope we spend the money early and allow the new players coming in time to gel with the club. Up the saints!!

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Tbf in my book peacey is a relatively credible source considering his dads job. Not the first time he had inside info either.

 

don't think his dad does that anymore does he? Anyway surely would only apply to players coming in?

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If this is true then good luck to the lad, it's a shame to lose him but it's a cracking deal for saints. 12 mil for a 17 year old who has had one full season under his belt in what is essentailly the old 3rd division is complete madness and goes to show that football is losing it's mind. With this money we can buy 3/4 cracking players for our promotion push...let's hope we spend the money early and allow the new players coming in time to gel with the club. Up the saints!!

 

Totally agree with all that.

 

Southampton FC and its continued rise back to the Premiership is more important than one player, and if that money realises the vision sooner then I'm all for it.

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I will beleive it IF and WHEN the OS releases this news...

 

Arsenal do not have that much money to spend on a winger when they have a defence, a strong midfielder and a goalkeeper to also buy to mount a title challenge...

 

I suppose if they sell Fabregas then it will give them the money, but at the moment its just speculation, pure and simple!

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My above comment was a joke just incase anyone was offened.

 

If his dad is so keen for him to develop at Arsenal then why did he bother with him starting his career with us? Why not just develop him at Arsenal to begin with? Surely he showed enough promise to begin his career with a premier league club?

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"The deal won't be announced until after July 1 for some reason."

 

I think this snippet gives it more credance than any other. Saint's financial year starts on July 1st.

 

Shifting the income into the next financial year (along you'll note with shirt sales and season ticket receipts) probably makes sense on a a tax avoidance basis (once a banker, always a banker) AND to build up future revenues if the Football League put in place some financial fairplay criteria.

 

So for that reason I think he's off.

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It was naive to think he wouldn't go. Even though I think he would probably develop better playing first team football for a couple more seasons as a pro you have to take these opportunities when they arise.

 

£12mill cash would be good business, especially considering Leibherr only paid around 15 for the whole club.

 

This thread, with several saying its done deal and lets spend the money is very much like the January thread.

 

I think you are naive if you believe the mirror and assume he is definitely going.

 

I think its more likely he will go than not however:

 

 

club are not desperate for money.

 

he is very happy here.

 

although there is clear acknowledge meant that he is aiming for top 4 club and England the only comments on timing I have heard were his mum saying that it would be great for him to be here next season and has a great group of players to mentor him.

 

£12m maybe good business but if it is felt that a year older Ox-C would make the difference and get us promoted then turning down £12m is good business.

 

He needs to progress, I am sure that him and his family have been impressed with the way Adkins has looked after him so far.

 

A season with top championship side will be progress and stepping stone for him.

 

The most reliable source - the mirror! Have a look at other saints stories on there!

 

He may go, he may stay - but he ain;t gone yet!

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"The new Theo Walcott" !! Anybody would think that Theo has turned out to be the English Lionel Messi. Walcott has not developed much at Arsenal IMO, yes he has pace but without that he would be another Adam Hammell - A winger who forgets the ball, no sense of where to pass it and no trick!

 

OXO is better than that !

 

But I still find it hard to accept that Arsenal who have much rebuilding to do on a relatively small budget ( relative to the Prem big 4), would spend £12 million on a 17 year old winger when they have more pressing priorities in other positions.

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"The deal won't be announced until after July 1 for some reason."

 

I think this snippet gives it more credance than any other. Saint's financial year starts on July 1st.

 

Shifting the income into the next financial year (along you'll note with shirt sales and season ticket receipts) probably makes sense on a a tax avoidance basis (once a banker, always a banker) AND to build up future revenues if the Football League put in place some financial fairplay criteria.

 

So for that reason I think he's off.

 

Very true.

 

Well his skate dad will get what he wants, whether it's him deciding or OXO nobody knows. I'd be more annoyed if we lost Lallana mind you, and £12 million is obscene.

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Agree, think we can safely assume he is def off regardless though!!! arse would be logical choice, just hope we get to spend the proceeds! Hope when OXO goes, we have a top name same day to appease fans and replace him!!

 

Why? Because of newspaper reports? They were really on the nail last time. :rolleyes:

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"The deal won't be announced until after July 1 for some reason."

 

I think this snippet gives it more credance than any other. Saint's financial year starts on July 1st.

 

Shifting the income into the next financial year (along you'll note with shirt sales and season ticket receipts) probably makes sense on a a tax avoidance basis (once a banker, always a banker) AND to build up future revenues if the Football League put in place some financial fairplay criteria.

 

So for that reason I think he's off.

 

Although the transfer window formally opens on 1 July, domestic transfers between clubs in the same association (eg England or Scotland) can take place as soon as a club completes its last competitive 2010/11 fixtures.

 

However, many transfers or signings, although agreed and announced at this time, will not formally go through until 1 July because the majority of players' contracts expire on 30 June.

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St_Tel49

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That and gut instinct! 12 mill for a 17yr old is great business

 

If he is worth 12m to someone else then he is definitely worth more than that to us. Didn't people complain about Lowe when he sold a very good player and replaced him with several inferior players yet that is what we (members of this board) are proposing here. The premiership is worth more to us than £12m - so no - I don't think that it is great business

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£12m seems like a decent price as long as we get a sell on. I am convinced the big 4 are simply trying to stop each other from buying certain young players.

As for AOC - if it were me I would have waited another year. I simply dont understand how a year in Arsenal's reserves & the odd cameo in the fizzy pop & CL is going to further his career.

Neither Walcott or Bale did anything for well over 12 months when they moved. Indeed some of the Spurs fans thought Bale was poo. If he played 40 games in the champ next season it would improve him as a player & as a man.

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If he is worth 12m to someone else then he is definitely worth more than that to us. Didn't people complain about Lowe when he sold a very good player and replaced him with several inferior players yet that is what we (members of this board) are proposing here. The premiership is worth more to us than £12m - so no - I don't think that it is great business

But surely there is no guarantee that OXO will fulfil the potential that he has. I am not saying that he won`t, but if Arsenal (or anyone else) are prepared to spend £12M to take the chance and that money was WISELY invested in the team then it has to be worth thinking about. Whatever happens OXO staying or going will not decide whether we are promoted or not. If he went because we needed the money and he wasn`t replaced, then maybe but there are many, many other factors that will influence this

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Full of "qoutes" from months ago and pretty much exactly what we read in January.

 

It amuses me that his old man says about Theo, and that he is still developing. So Mark... Where's your nipper gonna play? I S'pose there is always room in the reserves.

 

It would be a shame to see him go and then not hear a bean from him for a couple of years, like Theo. Theo has no way progressed as well as he would have done if he was getting first team football. He is a good player yes, but if you think he was better off with Arse ressie's than he would have been playing week in week out in the championship then you are seriously deluded.

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But surely there is no guarantee that OXO will fulfil the potential that he has. I am not saying that he won`t, but if Arsenal (or anyone else) are prepared to spend £12M to take the chance and that money was WISELY invested in the team then it has to be worth thinking about. Whatever happens OXO staying or going will not decide whether we are promoted or not. If he went because we needed the money and he wasn`t replaced, then maybe but there are many, many other factors that will influence this

There are no certainties in this life (except death and taxes) but I think that AOC going on to fulfil his potential is close to being one of them. That is why the big clubs are so interested.

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Can I remind everyone that the Echo ran a headline on the 24th January saying

"HE'S GUNNER GO......."

 

Where they told everyone that he was
GONE
in the January Transfer Window.

 

Towards the end of the article it said

All that would appear to remain is for Arsenal to strike a deal with Saints.

 

I think we all know Nicola is away in Cyprus at the moment at the Football League's AGM.

 

 

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Full of "qoutes" from months ago and pretty much exactly what we read in January.

 

It amuses me that his old man says about Theo, and that he is still developing. So Mark... Where's your nipper gonna play? I S'pose there is always room in the reserves.

 

It would be a shame to see him go and then not hear a bean from him for a couple of years, like Theo. Theo has no way progressed as well as he would have done if he was getting first team football. He is a good player yes, but if you think he was better off with Arse ressie's than he would have been playing week in week out in the championship then you are seriously deluded.

 

This!

 

but I still think he will go just based on his Dads seeming determination to move him along.

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If true then £12M is a great piece of business.

 

OXO for CMS + 3 others of similar calibre would put us in with a great shot of prem football IMO.

 

what about keeping Ox-C and adding CMS + 3 others of similar calibre

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but you have no idea of the views and character involved.

 

I have no idea what the above means but given his Dad has publically expressed his desire for Alex to go to Arsenal then it really was just a matter of time (and money).

 

What would you suggest Cortese should do then? Play hardball and keep a player against his will? He won't be any good for us in that situation and will simply run down his contract and leave for next to nothing. Who would benefit from that?

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I agree he wants to, and probably will end up at big four club.

 

I have heard his dad say that.

 

I have also heard his mum talk positively about him staying here for next season.

 

He is on 3 year contract.

 

I have heard nothing to say him staying here for another season will be against his will, cause him to sulk or lower his value - it may go up.

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I'm with you on this Nick.

 

I find it odd that everyone is resigned to it today, even though we know no more than we did 2 weeks ago.

 

If i remember correctly, we had a similar article and thread in January and everyone was convinced, but it didn't happen.

 

Until it's on the OS then it's a load of rubbish IMO.

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Ah well, it's strange but for some reason my only resentment for the move is that it's to Arsenal.

 

If he went to Man U I could understand the urgency...but Arsene the Arse?

 

Fergie would at least treat him like a king, you can bet your bottom dollar that Chambo won't even see the bench hardly next season. Great career move when he needs to play the games.....

?? He's just 17... and of course Wenger knows nothing about bringing on young players. You on the other hand know it's best to keep a young player playing most weeks in the Championship. I thought people appreciated sports science on here, but clearly not.
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