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sadoldgit

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going to Arsenal and playing in their reserves for 2+ years will slow his progress. Playing against some quality teams in the championship and getting 1st team experience is vital imo

 

Really? Do you think that Barcelona play the way they do because their players spend several years getting kicked to bits in the lower leagues? Training with the best you can and being fed into the team gradually has to be better than scuffing around in the CCC surely? You can look at Walcotts career or that of a better player, Bale. Hasn't held his career back has it? I would say the reason Walcott has not developed as well is because he is not actually "that" good.

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Really? Do you think that Barcelona play the way they do because their players spend several years getting kicked to bits in the lower leagues? Training with the best you can and being fed into the team gradually has to be better than scuffing around in the CCC surely? You can look at Walcotts career or that of a better player, Bale. Hasn't held his career back has it? I would say the reason Walcott has not developed as well is because he is not actually "that" good.
I dont agree, Walcott is and will be a fine player. Wenger has not given him the confidence. You watch Arsenal and he takes off TW when it should be another. As TW is not a arguementative type Wenger goes for the soft option.

TW tore the Barcelona deefrence apart a year ago and they were scared of his pace and skill, it is Wenger who has stalled the development of TW

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Walcott certainly has pace but it is what you do with that pace. Having one great game once in a while does not make you a great player. Walcott does seem to lack a footballers insitct on occasion and perhaps that is why Wenger does not use him so much? He could still develop into a decent player but at the moment I think he is far from the finished article. When watching Barcelone the other night you realise how far behind these players many English players are techincally. Wenger is no fool.

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Really? Do you think that Barcelona play the way they do because their players spend several years getting kicked to bits in the lower leagues?

 

Well since Barcelona B are in the second division I'd suggest that's exactly what their young players do yes.

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Is it really suprising that a skate **** like Chamberlin snr would want his lad to stay at Saints anyway. I say we should 100% sell sell sell before the start of the season otherwise we are going to lose out on a big transfer deal as I dont think personally that AOC will be good enough for the NPC let alone the PL. I dont think that he really set the world alight in L1 as did Bale and Walcott in the championship previously and the likes of Rodney Wallace (similar player IMO) in the old first division. And to be honest we were better when he didnt play in the last few games of the season anyway.

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Is it really suprising that a skate **** like Chamberlin snr would want his lad to stay at Saints anyway. I say we should 100% sell sell sell before the start of the season otherwise we are going to lose out on a big transfer deal as I dont think personally that AOC will be good enough for the NPC let alone the PL. I dont think that he really set the world alight in L1 as did Bale and Walcott in the championship previously and the likes of Rodney Wallace (similar player IMO) in the old first division. And to be honest we were better when he didnt play in the last few games of the season anyway.

Your logic is a bit flawed here. Remember that the skate **** placed his son with Saints in the first place and that, even if AOC does go, saints will be financially a lot better off as a result. Hardly the actions of someone who has a problem with Saints. But really you should take whatever is published in a newspaper - any newspaper - with a huge dose of salt. All they want are stories - the accuracy of the story is secondary and accurate quotations are of no great importance either.

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Walcott was always a striker, not a winger. He gets goals and assists because he's a very good player, but playing wide when crossing and decision making aren't his strong points he's not going to look the most comfortable. Arsenal are supposedly a club that can break the convention of automatically putting quick, skillful and slightly lightweight players on the wing. I'm surprised they didn't notice him for what he was during his time in the reserves, especially having paid more for him than most of their youngsters.

 

Chamberlain is definately a winger, so no problems there. Although getting promoted from League 1 will be more memorable and more significant to him than anything that happens in Arsenal reserves. No-one watches reserve games and no-one really cares either. It's not representative of what football is.

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Walcott was always a striker correct, not a winger. He gets goals and assists because he's a very good player, but playing wide when crossing and decision making aren't his strong points he's not going to look the most comfortable. Arsenal are supposedly a club that can break the convention of automatically putting quick, skillful and slightly lightweight players on the wing. I'm surprised they didn't notice him for what he was during his time in the reserves, especially having paid more for him than most of their youngsters.

 

Chamberlain is definately a winger wrong, so no problems there. Although getting promoted from League 1 will be more memorable and more significant to him than anything that happens in Arsenal reserves. No-one watches reserve games and no-one really cares either. It's not representative of what football is.

 

Walcott was bought to play up front, if and when he progressed, Chamberlain prefers midfield, mind you, so did Beckham!

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People can say all they like about the mail and other papers making things up. I work for a national paper, let me make this clear: we NEVER "make up" a transfer rumour, EVERY story has come from the player, his club, his agent, the buying club or a very close source (a mate that has been proven right before or family member).

 

Sorry, I know this goes against peoples perceptions but there is categorically no chance of stories being made up a and there's plentyof stories that don't go to print as they don't 100% check out that are proved right.

 

Don't shoot the messenger people, someone us clearly touting him out.

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People can say all they like about the mail and other papers making things up. I work for a national paper, let me make this clear: we NEVER "make up" a transfer rumour, EVERY story has come from the player, his club, his agent, the buying club or a very close source (a mate that has been proven right before or family member).

 

Sorry, I know this goes against peoples perceptions but there is categorically no chance of stories being made up a and there's plentyof stories that don't go to print as they don't 100% check out that are proved right.

 

Don't shoot the messenger people, someone us clearly touting him out.

 

they are made up stories.

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People can say all they like about the mail and other papers making things up. I work for a national paper, let me make this clear: we NEVER "make up" a transfer rumour, EVERY story has come from the player, his club, his agent, the buying club or a very close source (a mate that has been proven right before or family member).

 

Sorry, I know this goes against peoples perceptions but there is categorically no chance of stories being made up a and there's plentyof stories that don't go to print as they don't 100% check out that are proved right.

 

Don't shoot the messenger people, someone us clearly touting him out.

 

I'm sure the paper you work for has good subs to tidy up your punctuation and spelling.

 

As we're talking journalists, a friend of mine saw Mark Chamberlain after a game at St Mary's before Christmas, and knowing him quite well, asked him what he doing for a living.

 

With a wide grin and a theatrical wink, he said: "Looking after the boy."

 

It's not difficult to work out that Alex Chamberlain is a pension fund on legs for his dad.

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I'm sure the paper you work for has good subs to tidy up your punctuation and spelling.

 

As we're talking journalists, a friend of mine saw Mark Chamberlain after a game at St Mary's before Christmas, and knowing him quite well, asked him what he doing for a living.

 

With a wide grin and a theatrical wink, he said: "Looking after the boy."

 

It's not difficult to work out that Alex Chamberlain is a pension fund on legs for his dad.

 

And, of course, having criticised our friend for his spelling and punctuation, I read through my post and find errors.

 

I thought I'd get my retaliation in first.

 

Anybody got any large stones? I want to put some ventilation holes in my glass house.

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People can say all they like about the mail and other papers making things up. I work for a national paper, let me make this clear: we NEVER "make up" a transfer rumour, EVERY story has come from the player, his club, his agent, the buying club or a very close source (a mate that has been proven right before or family member).

 

Sorry, I know this goes against peoples perceptions but there is categorically no chance of stories being made up a and there's plentyof stories that don't go to print as they don't 100% check out that are proved right.

 

Don't shoot the messenger people, someone us clearly touting him out.

 

You don't see it as ironic that you make a claim like this and call yourself Jackanory? :)

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Walcott going to Arsenal was in my opinion a mistake. He had blistering pace but wasn't a natural ball player/passer so Arsenal have spent the last four years trying to make him into a passing cog footballer, part of the great overall plan. Man Utd would have concentrated on the pace and given him the room to use it, whilst slowly improving the rest. Chamberlain would be mad going to Arsenal, although he sees himself as a central midfielder I can't see it. Arsenal and wide players aren't compatible.

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Walcott going to Arsenal was in my opinion a mistake. He had blistering pace but wasn't a natural ball player/passer so Arsenal have spent the last four years trying to make him into a passing cog footballer, part of the great overall plan. Man Utd would have concentrated on the pace and given him the room to use it, whilst slowly improving the rest. Chamberlain would be mad going to Arsenal, although he sees himself as a central midfielder I can't see it. Arsenal and wide players aren't compatible.

 

If you look back at the FA cup game against ManU, that was his preferred position (sort of) and he did not look that out of place, especially considering the opposition. His dad seems to see him best playing behind a front two and the bursts he put in against ManU from the middle, were very effective. I was surprised at one stage how effective and would have thought the wings would have been more productive. He does not have Theo pace so that makes sense considering the flying machines top teams have at full back and there are not a whole heap that can cut through the middle like that. What was interesting being that the club went out of their way to accomodate Oxo in a more central role, very good management from Saints for that game.

 

 

 

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I'm sure the paper you work for has good subs to tidy up your punctuation and spelling.

As we're talking journalists, a friend of mine saw Mark Chamberlain after a game at St Mary's before Christmas, and knowing him quite well, asked him what he doing for a living.

With a wide grin and a theatrical wink, he said: "Looking after the boy."

It's not difficult to work out that Alex Chamberlain is a pension fund on legs for his dad.

 

I get the feeling that there seems to be a very slight difference of opinion coming from the lad and his mother. I have heard people talk to the lad a couple of times and they generally believe he would be happy to stay? If you split any signing on / management fee between family members you can eek out a few £100k's without it affecting the lads pocket. A big incentive for some?

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Is it really suprising that a skate **** like Chamberlin snr would want his lad to stay at Saints anyway. I say we should 100% sell sell sell before the start of the season otherwise we are going to lose out on a big transfer deal as I dont think personally that AOC will be good enough for the NPC let alone the PL. I dont think that he really set the world alight in L1 as did Bale and Walcott in the championship previously and the likes of Rodney Wallace (similar player IMO) in the old first division. And to be honest we were better when he didnt play in the last few games of the season anyway.

I know this board and football is all about opinions and you are entitled to yours, but my opinion is that I've never read so much tosh in all my life.

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Surely it's a huge risk for these top sides to splash out £10m on a League 1 player. I would be waiting to see if he can prove himself in the Championship which will be a lot tougher. Expect him to stay in this window and to go in January.

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Surely it's a huge risk for these top sides to splash out £10m on a League 1 player. I would be waiting to see if he can prove himself in the Championship which will be a lot tougher. Expect him to stay in this window and to go in January.

 

It didn't stop Villa spending £8m on Fabian Delph when he had only played about 20 games for Leeds in L1 FFS. The hype around Chamerlain is much greater.

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I say we should 100% sell sell sell before the start of the season otherwise we are going to lose out on a big transfer deal as I dont think personally that AOC will be good enough for the NPC let alone the PL.

 

:lol:

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suewhistle

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Chamberlain is definately a winger, so no problems there.

 

Good point about 1st team football but he's not "definately" a winger. He can play there, but from the admittedly limited live and Saintsplayer footage I've seen he's got greater football awareness, far more comfortable playing inside and a compact strength to go with the pace. If the reports I've heard about the stop watch timings are true he's no slower than TW.

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:lol:

 

I fear that may be wishful thinking.

 

You've probably noticed yourself that the boy has that amazing and rare skill of somehow making it seem at times that the ball is magnetically attached to his boots. Many times have we seen him apparently stumble into one or two-man tackles only to emerge on the other side with the ball at his feet and under control even when at the time it appeared he had already lost it?

 

Such control is faster than the eye can follow and is what stamps him out as class. He'll go all the way and he will be pursued by BIG clubs all the way and we must learn to live with it and enjoy it whilst it lasts. Hold on for a white knuckle ride and trust in Cortese.

 

At the end of the day if the boy wants to leave then any contract will mean diddly-squat and it all comes down to what others are wiling to pay - or let his contarct run down and get bugger-all for him.

 

We can only hope and pray for a Paine, Channon or Le Tissier - local prodigies, doubly blessed with talent and loyalty - and crucially no effing agents of today's ilk to stir the ****! Sod the agents say I for all the bad they have brought to our game!

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I know that this is a little naive but..... I support Saints. Always have, always will. If I was a player and given the choice, I would find it very hard to play for any other club, let alone courting the attentions of half a dozen. Maybe he is a Gooner.

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It could just be that the father sees the son as a nice little earner and the sooner the better. It always seems to be the father making the Arsenal comments.

 

Probably pretty narked that Ox isn't in the England U21 group for the Euro 2011. Probably blames it on playing for Saints and not Arse or Liverpool.

Dad does seem a bit pushy at times.

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What a load of bollax that article is. Goal exclusive, Oxo did not leave because Rudolph the red nosed manc advised him to stay another 6 months? Who did he advise, Cortese? Because the lad would have been off if Cortese had agreed a deal with Wenger! What a load of bollax!

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I know that this is a little naive but..... I support Saints. Always have, always will. If I was a player and given the choice, I would find it very hard to play for any other club, let alone courting the attentions of half a dozen. Maybe he is a Gooner.

 

It's not only naive but probably untrue, though very easy to say. NO ONE can really say how they'd react if someone offered them 30k a week and a massive signing on fee (especially after the wake up call of a fairly troublesome injury alerts them to the precariousness of a pro football career).

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It's not only naive but probably untrue, though very easy to say. NO ONE can really say how they'd react if someone offered them 30k a week and a massive signing on fee (especially after the wake up call of a fairly troublesome injury alerts them to the precariousness of a pro football career).

 

He's earning about 10 times what I was at 17, even if he's only making £1k a week. I suspect he's on more than that however, so i'm sure he can manage.

There seems to be this belief that when you earn a lot of money you have to spend it right away - this isn't true. Footballers could save their money the same as any of us.

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Oh boo hoo poor old Wenger is also frustrated that Luke Shaw wont sign for them for Eff All either and wants to stay at St Marys, all together now Awwww poor old Wenger - Eff off and pinch someone else's talent.

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