Scudamore Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 I'm just struggling to work out where we'd fit 5 Rickie Lamberts into the side. Ok, one as target man, one out on the right when he's meant to be in the middle, and one hitting the long passes from the middle out to the winger. Oh yeah, then we could have one who is actually on the end of crosses. And I guess one who plays alongside Fonte to defend corners, but I think that one would get dropped. Can you imagine the arguments over free kicks? But if we sign five Rickie Lamberts we'll actually have six in total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Loving the ever bitter, ignorant comments re Wallcott going to Arsenal somehow being a bad move. England international, 12 goals last season despite injury probs, training daily with rvp, fabrigas, willshire, nasri etc. Scored in cup finals, progressed with England and is 1st choice with capello (although the ignorant amongst us prob think multiple trophy winning capello should e sacked fir allerdice or redknapp) and scored a hat trick in enclaves biggest performance since Germany in 01 against Croatia, has a certain pep guardiola amongst his biggest fans and scares the crap out if the worlds best defenders on a weekly basis. Yeah, terrible move that! Personally every time I see Theo burning champions league and premiership defenders on a weekly basis I'm Incedibly proud of my clubs role in his development! So many on here let bitterness hide facts it's pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 On the 24th January this year the Echo back page headline was HE'S GUNNER GO....... They told everyone that he was GONE in the January Transfer Window. Perhaps somebody could ask the Echo why we should believe today's back page over 24th of Januarys back page ?? Which one is correct ? The article went on to say thing like ....optimistic the 17-year-old will be a Gunner before the end of the January transfer window. Arsenal are understood to be keen to get Chamberlain before the end of January ....and All that would appear to remain is for Arsenal to strike a deal with Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Army Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 The direct quotes are as insightful as ever there. Looks pretty clear to me: On son Alex’s future, he said: “To develop at a place like Arsenal can’t be a bad thing. “In my eyes, I’d like him to go there as soon as possible, and continue his development.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born In The 80s Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 He's going to leave sooner or later. If the price is right, we should do it. We are no longer a one-man team, and we have the clout and the standing to acquire a decent enough replacement(s). He's a kid, who may turn out to be crap for all we know. That doesnt mollfiy my anger at Arsenal though, who I reckon have been talkign to his dad, and who seem to think they have a god-given right to our home-grown talent. Totally agree with Alpine. The last sentence is also true. Arsenal have been buttering up Chamberlain and his family since Christmas and it makes me sick. He was given a box for their home champions league game with Barcelona for himself, family and friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 The Mark Chamberlain 'quote' doesn't sound like current news, more likely something recycled, and probably taken out of context. Might not even be a quote as journalists often use cthe old trick of saying "would you say that bla, bla, bla, bla....... and if the person says well, maybe, the journalists words become a quote. If any other paper was interested enough to doorstep Mark Chamberlain, it would be interesting to know his reaction. He's just as likely to say that whilst Alex's future should be in the Prem, how and when and who with is a matter for Alex. I'll believe AOC is leaving when it happens, not before, and I think he'll still be here next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Thats that the gunners think to http://www.arsenalinsider.com/arsenal-news/2532-teen-starlet-chamberlain-set-to-join-arsenal-for-p10m Nice little insight as to how other clubs see us now as well there. We'll see a lot more stories like this over the next few months, but I don't think he's got a chance of moving with 2 years still on his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Let's swap him for Bendtner. Bendtner is a poor Prem/Arsenal player but would be decent in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 To be quite honest, after watching Valencia in the CL final, I think we're more likely to get an "offer we can't refuse" from Manure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Totally agree with Alpine. The last sentence is also true. Arsenal have been buttering up Chamberlain and his family since Christmas and it makes me sick. He was given a box for their home champions league game with Barcelona for himself, family and friends. Give it a rest. Where do you think we get all of our "home grown talent" from? We did exactly what Arsenal are doing when we nabbed Theo from Swindon. And Dale Stephens only this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Don't get me wrong, he has got great potential and will be a great player one day, but we clearly can play pretty well without him (end of last season) and we could get 10-12 million for him anyway. Would rather keep him but I won't shed any tears at all if he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 More from the same Arsenal Insider website, which like most 'insider' sources is anything but:- rubbishquotes 2011-06-01 09:23 Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain is now thought to be going cold on the idea of moving to Arsenal. Arsenal will “soon” cease to be a power in English football, says former England international footballer Mark Chamberlain. He believes his son’s best interest would be not to make the switch to the Gunners as he expects their decline to “continue”. A year in the championship with Southampton would be best for the youngster's “development”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellgirl Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 If any of his family read this site I should think they are very disappounted by the lack of support for him. He is our player and until we have confirmation from the club that he is on the move ,surely we should back him and not pick over his bones while he is evolving on the world stage in the holiday season. How much does the Echo ever get right these days anyway ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 If any of his family read this site I should think they are very disappounted by the lack of support for him. He is our player and until we have confirmation from the club that he is on the move ,surely we should back him and not pick over his bones while he is evolving on the world stage in the holiday season. How much does the Echo ever get right these days anyway ? you know deep-down that he aint going to be around much longer, just like the rest of us. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 If any of his family read this site I should think they are very disappounted by the lack of support for him. He is our player and until we have confirmation from the club that he is on the move ,surely we should back him and not pick over his bones while he is evolving on the world stage in the holiday season. How much does the Echo ever get right these days anyway ? What do you want us to do? Go round his house and beg him to stay. Despite what they say I doubt that most players could care less about fan adoration. At the end of the day players have maybe 15-18 years to rake in as much cash as possible before they're forced to retire at 35 and live on the proceeds. Players will follow the money and secondly the glory. Others can offer more of both so we just have to accept that players will move on and there's not a thing we can do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 I don' think the interviews his Dad gives are really going to please the club. He comes across very much as pushy parent, keep it behind closed doors. I think the conflict of interests is rearing it's ugly head and the father may not be acting fully in the interests of his son, a big payday being the controlling factor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 On the 24th January this year the Echo back page headline was HE'S GUNNER GO....... They told everyone that he was GONE in the January Transfer Window. Perhaps somebody could ask the Echo why we should believe today's back page over 24th of Januarys back page ?? Which one is correct ? The article went on to say thing like ....optimistic the 17-year-old will be a Gunner before the end of the January transfer window. and Arsenal are understood to be keen to get Chamberlain before the end of January .... and All that would appear to remain is for Arsenal to strike a deal with Saints. I don't see any irregularities here. Back in the window it looked as if he had agreed personal terms with Arsenal and it was just a case of Arsenal meeting the conditions in his contract and he would be off. The latest Echo is nothing new to the Sky interview Mark gave after the end of this season. It looks like Oxo's contract contains the same conditions that was agreed with Arsenal when Theo moved. The reason Oxo never left for Arsenal previously was either because Wenger would not agree to the full amount or that Cortese would not budge an inch over what he had to within the contract. If there was any condition left ajar, I would bet there would have been no allowances, with the maximum and quickest payment required. I don't think he will go to Arsenal until the January window at least. For what ever reason Wenger backed off of the deal and I don't expect Cortese to change his mind just yet. Clubs will want to see how he performs in the Championship before committing. Then look at all the talent Arsenal have in this position and it comes no where near a necessity. Maybe different if ManU came in prepared to pay the max, but will have to wait and see. Whatever happens it looks like Oxo will put in a shift for us if he is still here. I don't think the lad would be too upset if he stayed from some of the comments he has made. His dad is definitely seeing £ signs, but the mum looks to have another view which could only have come from the lad himself. You never know we could end up keeping him, but that does look remote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 I wish his dad would STFU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 IMO it is a re-hash of an old story, smacks of the Echo needing something to fill the back page with. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 We won't be bullied into selling him, that's for sure. We're not in need of any cash at the moment, Alex has blended well into the first-team and become a key player for us, and he has the potential to be a fantastic player. Unless the offer is far too good to turn down, I cannot see us selling him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 If any of his family read this site I should think they are very disappounted by the lack of support for him. He is our player and until we have confirmation from the club that he is on the move ,surely we should back him and not pick over his bones while he is evolving on the world stage in the holiday season. How much does the Echo ever get right these days anyway ? I think the majority of people do want him to stay though. Just everyone is pretty resigned to the fact that if he doesn't go now, he will soon anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 More from the same Arsenal Insider website, which like most 'insider' sources is anything but:- rubbishquotes 2011-06-01 09:23 Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain is now thought to be going cold on the idea of moving to Arsenal. Arsenal will “soon” cease to be a power in English football, says former England international footballer Mark Chamberlain. He believes his son’s best interest would be not to make the switch to the Gunners as he expects their decline to “continue”. A year in the championship with Southampton would be best for the youngster's “development”. Ignoring the dig at Arsenal, this is the advice I would give my kid, even though I am no ex-pro, and sounds much more realistic than the Echo's article. However, saying that a year would be best for his development is probably a bit too short, not to mention the fact that it is treating his current employer's shoddily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSaint Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 scott sinclair hated it in the reserves at chelsea then decided he needs 1st team footy, now look at him, a very good player getting regular football. Theo took ages to get a prem start and still isnt a regular in the 1st team, why oh why ppl want to go straight into the prem is beyond me, first team football is vital when your young and there is noway he will get it right away. Stay at Saints lad and you'll improve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Let's swap him for Bendtner. Bendtner is a poor Prem/Arsenal player but would be decent in the Championship. He dropped down to the Championship to join Brum on loan a couple of seasons ago. 11 goals in 42 appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Oxo to Man Utd and loaned back to usw for a season......Fluuuck Arsenal. As For the Echo..second rate newspaper.... Come on Oxo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 That doesnt mollfiy my anger at Arsenal though, who I reckon have been talkign to his dad, and who seem to think they have a god-given right to our home-grown talent. I just cant believe Arsenal's behaviour. What makes them think they can identify a player they want, then make us an offer, which we can accept or reject. Bloody Hell we dont act like that. Bristol Rovers begged us to take Lambert off them, as did palace with Fonte. It's just a disgrace, Clubs should not be allowed to scout and then try and buy our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 scott sinclair hated it in the reserves at chelsea then decided he needs 1st team footy, now look at him, a very good player getting regular football. Theo took ages to get a prem start and still isnt a regular in the 1st team, why oh why ppl want to go straight into the prem is beyond me, first team football is vital when your young and there is noway he will get it right away. Stay at Saints lad and you'll improve! If Theo is fit, he starts for Arsenal. He will also have a far superior career to SS. brilliant move by Theo and family, development led to becoming player most feared by Pep Guardiola, goals and assists against best sides in Europe in biggest matches inc cup finals and scoring that hat trick in Croatia - englands most important win since Germany 01. Thanks both to our brilliant development, oh and the small matter of being schooled by this country's biggest advocate of total football and training alongside Henry, Fabrigas, Willshire, Nasri and Van Persie. However you'd have preferred he stayed to spearhead our Promotion run against Derby, Preston and Millwall eh? Can't wait for him o return to SMS so I can hive him a round of applause! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Theo would have been better off going to Man U than learning how to win naff-all playing Wenger's tappy tappy sh!t. My Arsenal mate is thinks Theo has stagnated a bit, I tend to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Shoddy journalism: the article does not reveal when the interview was done, and what the context for it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Theo would have been better off going to Man U than learning how to win naff-all playing Wenger's tappy tappy sh!t. My Arsenal mate is thinks Theo has stagnated a bit, I tend to agree. My arsenal mates at work (3 of which are st holders and all live in either N1 or N5) think he's had his best season since arriving, he's scored more, made more than any previous season yet been injured for a 1/3 of the season? Does your mate actually go? To be fair oxo at utd would be a good move prob, arsenal are a guilty pleasure for me as first and foremost ima football fan and they try and play it better than any other team, spend less than their rivals and conduct themselves with a bit if class off the Pitch. If they won something I feel it would be a victory for football but hey ho. Fergy will develop cambo well enough as he obviously has potential and will always win medals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Must be an old news quote. AOC is in switzerland with England U19's and i would be gobsmacked if his old man wasnt there watching him. It is also unlikely that an excho journo was also in switzerland to interview him and also unlikely that they did it over the phone. Seems to me like its a rehash on a no news day for the echo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 £10m up front from a wealthy Arsenal (so that we can make quality additions for the season ahead) - plus a healthy sell-on clause. Either way - he's off. I will happily eat my own poo if he's still here on the opening day of the season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 If any of his family read this site I should think they are very disappounted by the lack of support for him. He is our player and until we have confirmation from the club that he is on the move ,surely we should back him and not pick over his bones while he is evolving on the world stage in the holiday season. How much does the Echo ever get right these days anyway ? Wasting your breath girl, we went through this in January, our fans wishing him gone for the money, instead of wishing him to stay. I agree, if he was to read this thread, he'd be on his toes soon as he could. Pathetic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 He dropped down to the Championship to join Brum on loan a couple of seasons ago. 11 goals in 42 appearances. But they got promoted that season so he must have been doing something right AND he's been a regular in the Arsenal team since then, so has more experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 But they got promoted that season so he must have been doing something right AND he's been a regular in the Arsenal team since then, so has more experience. It could be a good move. He's still only 23, has something to prove and could really make a name for himself. Would he be interested, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Originally Posted by SaintNeil90 View Post Yes Mark because that did wonders to Walcotts career didnt it. Also, can people stop twisting Alex's and his mums words, not once did any of them say 'He is staying!'. In my opinion, he is going to leave, him and his family have their eyes set on him leaving at some point so I say get rid asap, we want players that want to be here. England international, Champions League football. I'm sure Walcott would trade it all in... No trophies though, while Saints and AOC have two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 In terms of his development i don't think moving to a big club would help him right now. Let's not forget the kid has only had one season. If he goes to any of the big clubs he will at best sit on the bench. He won't start games for a few seasons yet. He has a chance to go into his 2nd season in football playing every game in the NPC. A huge step up from league one. Playing so often will help him develop more then having pots of cash to swim around in. It makes you wonder if his parents really do have his best interests at heart or if they just want to exploit him for as much money as they can get. If it is the latter then they should be ashamed. It seems loyalty in football has all but gone. The kid has a great future ahead of him. But it should not be forgotton who has looked after him for almost 10 years of his life. Who gave him his chance. The family owe the club more respect then they have shown it in my view. I feel sorry for the lad as i am sure he just wants to play football like any kid that age does. He needs protecting or it can go so wrong for him as we have seen so many times with talented people who get things too soon. I hope he does not become another one of them. His dad needs to set a better example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Good job it's not his Dad who decides when and where he goes then. The man who is in control of that is Cortese and as we saw in January, he won't be bullied in the transfer market. so you don't subscribe to the `contracts aren't worth the paper they are written on' line of thinking then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 But they got promoted that season so he must have been doing something right AND he's been a regular in the Arsenal team since then, so has more experience. No chance of him dropping down a division. Amazed anyone would suggest him. Lazy bastard by the way. I saw him quite a few times for the Zulus that season and he stood around most if the time, looked pretty good when the ball came to him, but you won't find too many Brums fans that were all that fussed when they couldn't get him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Let's swap him for Bendtner. Bendtner is a poor Prem/Arsenal player but would be decent in the Championship. http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Arsenal-transfer-news-Nicklas-Bendtner-set-for-12m-move-with-Bayern-Munich-expected-to-bid-Denilson-8m-Sevilla-target-article743321.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 2 June, 2011 Share Posted 2 June, 2011 You have the choice to stay at a championship side or move to a world known club who regularly finish in the top 4 places in arguably the worlds best league. Hmmmm I wonder??? Plus a signing on fee of 1m and a wage of 25k+ I expect they will stay on condition the club up his wages from 2k to 20 odd just in case their son has a very serious injury and this will cover it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dronskisaint Posted 2 June, 2011 Share Posted 2 June, 2011 £10m up front from a wealthy Arsenal (so that we can make quality additions for the season ahead) - plus a healthy sell-on clause. Either way - he's off. I will happily eat my own poo if he's still here on the opening day of the season! I note you're from Waterlooville:D I also would like to reiterate that I think it's a slow news day and the quotes are so old they've died! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simondo Posted 2 June, 2011 Share Posted 2 June, 2011 Swap AC for TW? great idea!! love that!!! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 2 June, 2011 Share Posted 2 June, 2011 £10m cash on the nail + sell on clause and bye bye. I can see Arsenal, MU and Liverpool blinking first at paying up front. He could well be here next year which if there is an unfulfilled chase this summer could be a bad thing. Unless he buys into staying before pre season starts he should be sold on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 2 June, 2011 Share Posted 2 June, 2011 Makes me laugh - AOC should be aiming a bit higher than the " Not won anything for years" Arsenal , agreed he is a saleable asset and his going is bound to come , but what really bugs me is Arsenal are NOT that good - better off going to the Manchester's or Barcelona - at least he would be joining a winning club ffs - what is this utter B*****ks with Arsenal - if I was in AOC's shoes I'd be getting my agent to make one of the above teams happen - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itchen_block4 Posted 2 June, 2011 Share Posted 2 June, 2011 From a team perspective, I'm not too worried. We could replace him adequately with a couple of new signings. I guess his presence distracts the vultures from other talented players. From the perspective of wanting the best for him, I think he'd be better off playing competitive, Championship football in front of 25,000 than playing reserve football in front of a mish-mash of staff, wags and scouts. He's already come through that process with flying colours! I want to see him test himself against better and more experienced players. If he proves himself to the sizeable number of Championship followers, he'll be prepared to take on the big time this time next season. He's not the most influential (not yet anyway) but that doesn't detract from him being a very gifted player and far more naturally suited to his position than Walcott. He's got a great positional sense as well as his obvious skill and athleticism. I'd really like him to stay, at least until January. It's more of a sentimental thing really, I want to see him develop as a footballer and have a successful and dignified career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermcpete Posted 2 June, 2011 Share Posted 2 June, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1393431/Alex-Oxlade-Chamberlain-urged-join-Arsenal.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 2 June, 2011 Share Posted 2 June, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1393431/Alex-Oxlade-Chamberlain-urged-join-Arsenal.html A number of strange things in that article. - Why does Saints selling Walcott to Arsenal 5 years ago mean they have a "strong relationship"? Especially with Saints under new ownership and management. - Where have they got "Southampton are hopeful of achieving £10m for Oxlade-Chamberlain" from? I doubt the club have told them this. - Where have they got "failed with a £5million bid to lure him to the Emirates earlier this year" from? Yes, Cortese said there were bids, but he didn't put a figure on it. - Why doesn't a Mail "journalist" (in its loosest terms) want to put their name to this article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 2 June, 2011 Share Posted 2 June, 2011 does this look familiar? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1346960/Alex-Oxlade-Chamberlain-close-5m-Southampton-Arsenal.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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