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The Kraken

The Kraken

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Doesn't look good does it?

 

No, that's about as close you'll get (with direct quotes) to someone saying they want to leave a football club without actually handing in a transfer request.

 

But I'm sure there will be plenty on here to suggest otherwise, and that he's fully focussed on another year with us in the NPC.

The Kraken

The Kraken

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There’s no barrier on the age you have to be to play in the Premier League. If you’re good enough, you’re old enough. Hopefully I’ll get the opportunity to prove that.

 

At this point I feel I am ready. I am still young and I still have time to go into a Premier League set-up and learn.

 

I don’t expect to walk into the first team of any club by any means. I know I would have to basically start again, bide my time and, if a chance came, take it.

 

Even though there has been speculation about me since January it hasn’t been hard to stay focused on helping them to get into the Championship.

 

I want to play in the Premier League, for England and to get to the highest level. To be linked with some of the clubs I see on Match of the Day every week is hugely ­flattering. All of these clubs are looking to work with young English players and I want to work with them. It would be a step up in every way. Even training with that kind of player would make me a better player.

 

Sounds like he's desperate to stay.

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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Seems you were utterly wrong then. Those quotes weren't made up as you suggested.

 

What I actually said was, it is hard to believe Darren Lewis because he has been wrong before about Chamberlain.

Pugwash

Pugwash

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Keep telling yourself that, it's bound to make it true.

 

Actually, I've read the article through again carefully. Darren Lewis has spun his quotes like a top - he's such an attention-seeking arse.

 

So let me amend that - three out of three.

The Kraken

The Kraken

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Actually, I've read the article through again carefully. Darren Lewis has spun his quotes like a top - he's such an attention-seeking arse.

 

So let me amend that - three out of three.

 

There we go, knew you could do it.

haddock22

haddock22

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That is quite a worrying read.

I've always thought he wouldn't go but now after that me thinks otherwise.

Why else would he do a interview with that pleb (and refer to us as "them") unless he did really want to go.

SaintBobby

SaintBobby

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Seems a fairly clear indication that he'd like to move on. But not totally incompatible with staying at Saints for another season.

 

The Mirror have clearly packaged the quotes in such a way as to heighten his departure. If he'd said "However, to be clear, I may well stay at Saints for another year or two.", such a sentence would have been expunged from the printed text.

 

Nevertheless, I'd say he's a bit greater than 50-50 to depart.

haddock22

haddock22

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Seems a fairly clear indication that he'd like to move on. But not totally incompatible with staying at Saints for another season.

 

The Mirror have clearly packaged the quotes in such a way as to heighten his departure. If he'd said "However, to be clear, I may well stay at Saints for another year or two.", such a sentence would have been expunged from the printed text.

 

Nevertheless, I'd say he's a bit greater than 50-50 to depart.

 

That's what I was expecting/hoping to read at the end of it but wasn't.

I'll be interested to see if there's for Saturday now. Think he's bit cheeky doing the interview really and some the things he's said.

St_Tel49

St_Tel49

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It is very rare that a player stays with a smaller club when a top 4 club comes in for him. Not negativity FACT.

Think Bridge, Rooney, Henderson, all players playing for clubs they started out with and supported.

 

If you were a player, from say, London, was playing for a club like Saints but had no emotional ties too, lets say, Leicester, and Arsenal came in for you, offering twice as much money and the chance to play in the top 4 of the premier league, champions league, with a great manager and some great players. What would you do?

 

Or to put it another way, if you were working for a medium sized local business and a huge corporate offered you at least twice as much money, the chance to work with and learn from the best in their profesion, much better career prospects etc, what would you do?

 

I know some of you think we are the new Barcelona and on an unstoppable charge up the leagues to the champions league but people need to get a grip. If we can keep him for another season then that will be brilliant and i would love him to and think he'd be better in terms of his development, but all it will do is delay the inevitable. If you want to all bury your head in the sand and think he is going to stay with us out of love for the club and because of Nickys vision then you are extremely naive. Players like Chamberlain move onto bigger clubs. Just like Bridge. Just like Rooney. Just like Henderson. Just like Barry. Just like Ashley Young. Just like Chris Smalling. Just like Phil Jones. The list is endless. FFS ever a club like Spurs are struggling to keep hold of Modric.

The fact that most players at some point leave the clubs that they began with is scarcely a blinding piece of insight. The discussion centres around whether he is leaving now. Your analogy is not, in my opinion, appropriate but, just to run with it, you could say "Whahay" and take the money and get fired a year later because you turned out to be not up to the job. Or you could take the money and get hidden away because at this point the company think that you had a future but not just yet and you kick your heels while counting your dosh or you could think - I may not be ready for this yet. I need to keep working on my experience and if I'm good enough they'll be back. It depends entirely on your personality and priorities what you go for. Of course I have no more idea than you have about what AOC will do but I will not be basing my opinion on quotes from newspapers. They have scarcely been reliable in the past.

St_Tel49

St_Tel49

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I cannot believe that people are still blindly accepting quotes in newspapers. There is no doubt that, at some point, one will be right but that will be on the same basis as giving a rubbish darts player as many darts as they want to throw at the board. They will eventually hit the bull.

Elmway

Elmway

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"I could spend a year in the Championship and, though this might sound negative, I could get injured and that opportunity might be lost."

"The next year another young star could come through and the opening might not come around again."

 

Sounds like someone not sure of his skills and wanting to cash-in before the bubble burst.

saint lard

saint lard

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If he is going let's just get a deal done that is right for the club, but also gets it done asap.

Our squad will need to be looked at, with respect to more incoming personal,imo,lets not fanny around.

saint_bert

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He wants to go it seems. However, NC has to do what right by SFC not AOC. If Arsenal, Man United or anyone else won't pay the money NC wants, he stays. Simple as that.

 

I guess it's now simingly a case of a deal being struck with Nicola.

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Forgot a comma
Langleysaint

Langleysaint

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If he is going let's just get a deal done that is right for the club, but also gets it done asap.

Our squad will need to be looked at, with respect to more incoming personal,imo,lets not fanny around.

 

Totally agree , sounds as his head has been turned let him go now if the price is right.

alehouseboys

alehouseboys

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"When the Prem bus comes along you have got to jump on it!"

 

You can just see the influence Nigel Adkins has had on his career.

 

Once they sell Fabregas they'll be back with an improved offer and that will be that. Sooner rather than later now will be best.

wild-saint

wild-saint

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To be fair I very much doubt any paper would put a quote in from anyone if they didnt actually say it. They would be exposing themselves to a massive law suit if they did.

 

I am not sure if you are intending to be ironic or not here. Reporters make up or embellish most of the 'quotes' you see in newspapers. Nor is there any danger whatsoever of a law suit when they do. First it would have to be proved that something was made up (not at all easy to do) and also that the quote somehow damaged the individual's material interest (also a tricky matter). Making up a quote suggesting that a footballer thinks he is ready to play in the Premier League wouldn't even cause a ripple.

 

Ironic or not is doesnt look like they mad those quotes up does it?

Jez

Jez

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I like the The Sun's story is "Exclusive" when he gave pretty much the same interview the previous day to a different reported and paper.

 

But yeah, looks like he definitely wants to leave now and play in the Prem, no doubt about that. Disappointing. So it's now just a matter of seeing which bids come in, and whether Cortese will let him leave, and how much we end up getting for him (if a deal gets done).

100%Red&White

100%Red&White

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He's a deluded moron if he thinks he'll be playing in the prem next season. He'll be lucky to make the bench. If he wants out then we should hurry up and fook him off.

 

The only bugger is...he wont be part of Arsenal's immediate first team plans so they can afford to push out a deal until the last minute, whereas if we have accepted he's off we need to get on and find a replacement. Maybe the gooners will feel our knees will buckle first and accept a lesser offer.

trousers

trousers

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JWTelegraph: Interesting interviews with Alex Chamberlain but he's not ready to play for Arsenal in Prem League. Should play a season in the Championship

JackanorySFC

JackanorySFC

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I cannot believe that people are still blindly accepting quotes in newspapers. There is no doubt that, at some point, one will be right but that will be on the same basis as giving a rubbish darts player as many darts as they want to throw at the board. They will eventually hit the bull.

 

Sorry but that's absolute rubbish. I work for a national and yeah, I know it's great fun to bash the hacks, say they make up quotes etc etc but it simply doesn't happen. Even the small 1 col 20 word "snippits" of transfer info ALWAYS come directly from the player, a family member (checked and double checked), agent, buying club or selling club- fact. ANY quote in an article has to be checked and double checked (or we get sued and hack loses job).

 

I know you love the comfort blanket that is "it's lies, their making it up" etc but believe me, EVERY story us checked out and looking at today's quotes, he either won't be around next season or NC will force him to stay and he simply won't want to be around.

 

For what it's worth I don't rate him massively, seen far better at his age at this club before so if he thinks he's big time get the money and let him sink or swim.

Turkish

Turkish

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The fact that most players at some point leave the clubs that they began with is scarcely a blinding piece of insight. The discussion centres around whether he is leaving now. Your analogy is not, in my opinion, appropriate but, just to run with it, you could say "Whahay" and take the money and get fired a year later because you turned out to be not up to the job. Or you could take the money and get hidden away because at this point the company think that you had a future but not just yet and you kick your heels while counting your dosh or you could think - I may not be ready for this yet. I need to keep working on my experience and if I'm good enough they'll be back. It depends entirely on your personality and priorities what you go for. Of course I have no more idea than you have about what AOC will do but I will not be basing my opinion on quotes from newspapers. They have scarcely been reliable in the past.

 

and it matters not if we think he should stay or not, he'll do what he wants. I just wish if he does go they'd get on with it and we spend them money on players that do want to be here.

Jimmy_D

Jimmy_D

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Sorry but that's absolute rubbish. I work for a national and yeah, I know it's great fun to bash the hacks, say they make up quotes etc etc but it simply doesn't happen. Even the small 1 col 20 word "snippits" of transfer info ALWAYS come directly from the player, a family member (checked and double checked), agent, buying club or selling club- fact. ANY quote in an article has to be checked and double checked (or we get sued and hack loses job).

 

I know you love the comfort blanket that is "it's lies, their making it up" etc but believe me, EVERY story us checked out and looking at today's quotes, he either won't be around next season or NC will force him to stay and he simply won't want to be around.

 

For what it's worth I don't rate him massively, seen far better at his age at this club before so if he thinks he's big time get the money and let him sink or swim.

 

That's fine, but the press (especially The Sun) has a pretty rubbish reputation right now... it's no good trying to play the 'integrity of the press' card atm.

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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If he is going then lets just get the best deal possible, do it well before the Leeds game and sign a quality replacement. Holmes and Forte will not do. Chamberlain leaving would take all the pace out of our starting lineup.

Frank's cousin

Frank's cousin

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All comes down to whwther someone offers a deal that Cortese accepts... simple as... up front cash, Possibly with sell on... Dont expect loyalty of common sense from players, their parents or agents - its ALWAYS about the money - all that talk about 'development with some of the best players' is ****** in sport, so as I say its always about short cuts to bling and heaps of cash.

 

Its the saddest thing about football and why its so easy to get disillusioned with the whole thing. Team sport used to be about the TEAM, with a real desire to be successful as possible with your team mates, not jump ship at teh first opportunity - typical of what is wrong with our 'want it now' culture.... feckin sad, but feck all anyone can do about it.

saint_bert

saint_bert

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If he does go maybe a change in formation might happen? 3 central midfielders with Lallana playing in the hole behind the two centre forwards?

 

Could that work or would we become too narrow?

 

Would need attacking fullbacks I suppose.

 

Thoughts?

saintjay77

saintjay77

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NC wont like these interviews at all IMO. If a club doesnt come in with a deal that is suitable to SFC then I can see Oxo back training with his youth team mates while people who want to play for Saints first team will get there chance. Its all well and good saying he wants to go or thinks he is ready to go but he has a contract and we are one of a few clubs who can afford to make him stick to his contract.

 

With the atitude that these reports seem to give him I cant wait for him to be gone. I think our 1st team will be playing regular prem football long before Oxo is if he goes now. We finished last season strong without him and we have strengthened the team since. If Adkins does add a couple more then its even better for us.

 

He wont be as much of a loss to us as losing Theo or Bale.

saintjay77

saintjay77

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plenty of direct quoteds on here saying he wants off. I know some of you will try to spin it that he is really saying he wants to play for us in the champions league though. :rolleyes:

 

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3703856/Southamptons-Alex-Oxlade-Chamberlain-has-stated-his-desire-to-join-a-top-four-club-like-Arsenal.html

 

You have to admit that the 1st quotes seemed like half a story. Its more than possible that the rest of the story could of been that he is happy here n all that so nothing wrong with staying positive.

 

The rest of the story seems to be out now and IMO even a line at the end saying he is happy here wouldnt of made a difference. He is pretty clear in wanting to cash in ASAP.

 

I think he may have shot himself in the foot though as I doubt any clubs will agree to what NC wants for SFC.

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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Will be a massive loss, not replaceable in the championship and we'd be alot weaker - but I'm not sure why he thinks he'll walk straight into a top 4 team. He will be a bench/reserve player for at least a year, I can't see how that benefits anyone.

 

The best solution to all of this would be a loan back, because he'd still get the games here and he'd still get the move he wants.

Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

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Will be a massive loss, not replaceable in the championship and we'd be alot weaker - but I'm not sure why he thinks he'll walk straight into a top 4 team. He will be a bench/reserve player for at least a year, I can't see how that benefits anyone.

 

The best solution to all of this would be a loan back, because he'd still get the games here and he'd still get the move he wants.

 

Surely whether he gets into a Prem side would depend on how he performs in the Carling Cup or whenever he gets a run out from the bench. You know I'm not so sure that very many players might be content with a 30 minute run out in the EPL every week rather than 70 or 80 in the NPC.

Windmill Arm 2

Windmill Arm 2

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Sorry but that's absolute rubbish. I work for a national and yeah, I know it's great fun to bash the hacks, say they make up quotes etc etc but it simply doesn't happen. Even the small 1 col 20 word "snippits" of transfer info ALWAYS come directly from the player, a family member (checked and double checked), agent, buying club or selling club- fact. ANY quote in an article has to be checked and double checked (or we get sued and hack loses job).

 

I know you love the comfort blanket that is "it's lies, their making it up" etc but believe me, EVERY story us checked out and looking at today's quotes, he either won't be around next season or NC will force him to stay and he simply won't want to be around.

 

For what it's worth I don't rate him massively, seen far better at his age at this club before so if he thinks he's big time get the money and let him sink or swim.

Thats bullshyte, Elvis doesn't live on the moon, nor does he drive a London bus, all stories told by the daily sport, get out of that one journo !
Greenridge

Greenridge

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It's starting to have that feel of a player engineering a move with these attributed comments. He's not short on self-belief that's for sure. Take the money (and I have every confidence NC will get the best possible deal) and invest in someone who wants to be here.

John B

John B

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It's starting to have that feel of a player engineering a move with these attributed comments. He's not short on self-belief that's for sure. Take the money (and I have every confidence NC will get the best possible deal) and invest in someone who wants to be here.

 

Yes totally agree the team did well when he was out injured anyway

dubai_phil

dubai_phil

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"I could spend a year in the Championship and, though this might sound negative, I could get injured and that opportunity might be lost."

"The next year another young star could come through and the opening might not come around again."

 

Sounds like someone not sure of his skills and wanting to cash-in before the bubble burst.

 

Disagree.

 

That first line sounds like perfect sense. His main potential is his pace linked with a growing footballing brain. Any knock or soft tissue injury could take away his pace and he has missed out.

 

Sorry, anybody who has a chance to earn big money in a sport with a potential to loose a career through a mistimed tackle is going to think this way.

 

Will he play many PL games this year? very very unlikely. Will he sign a 3 or 4 year contract worth around 3million quid in total? - yes.

 

Get the best deal we can, gives the moaners something to moan about losing a future star & the happy clappers can look forwards to the next kid coming through.

 

Is there a fault in all this? Yes, should have kept him on ice last season and then he could have had the chance to be in the PL next year - with us. Just blame the timing

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