Thedelldays Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 Where's this? Is it on Sky? Die FIFA, die!!! just been on the radio..there are pics (apparenly) that have just come in the public domain of bin haman fella handing over packets of cash to other officials....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 just been on the radio..there are pics (apparenly) that have just come in the public domain of bin haman fella handing over packets of cash to other officials....... http://twitpic.com/54n1h0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 The company who can bring down FIFA is electronic arts by renaming their football game to ea football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 Looks as if Blatter might get away with this - I think the only decent thing that he could do now is step down from the election. He won't do that though, and he'll get his grubby little mitts on the Presidency for another term. F*cker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 Looks as if Blatter might get away with this - I think the only decent thing that he could do now is step down from the election. He won't do that though, and he'll get his grubby little mitts on the Presidency for another term. F*cker. Yep but tbh it is the likes of the FA who are to blame. They don't have the balls to start up a breakaway so they will get screwed over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 Yep but tbh it is the likes of the FA who are to blame. They don't have the balls to start up a breakaway so they will get screwed over. How can you blame the FA. They have done more against FIFA than anyone. Having a break away of 1 nation will do nothing. The power houses are the big European FAs, aorta from England, the rest are very influential in FIFA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 How can you blame the FA. They have done more against FIFA than anyone. Having a break away of 1 nation will do nothing. The power houses are the big European FAs, aorta from England, the rest are very influential in FIFA... "We write to you expressing solidarity at this time". The FA are just as bad, there are far too many people involved in the game in this country who are in it to benefit themselves rather than benefiting the game they claim to govern. They can release as many statements as they like, saying they're abstaining and calling for the election to be postponed, but it smacks of a) sour grapes from 2018 (regardless of the bribe allegations, Russia's bid was perfectly credible anyway), and b) a case of "those in glass houses". They need to get their own house in order before anyone can really take them seriously. Don't forget, the other thing to come out from the two FIFA press conferences over the weekend was that the FA's report on Triesman's claims basically exonerated all four ExCo members Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 One other thing - it really comes to something when Jack Warner is proclaimed as the saviour of world football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durleyfos Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 http://twitpic.com/54n1h0 lol at the comment "Are you sure that wasn't taken in Harry Rednapps office?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 One other thing - it really comes to something when Jack Warner is proclaimed as the saviour of world football Sometimes, needs must. If Wesley Snipe can go from bad to good in Blade, so can the legend Jack Warner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 Jack Warner has now gone back on himself to say Blatter should be voted back in still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 Its a disgrace that the election is going ahead, Blatter is exhibiting the behaviour of all the true dictators. Remove the person running against you and have a 1 man election. Its got to the point that Id happily celebrate his death. There needs to be someone else at the top and there needs to be a separate corruption unit that arent accountable to anyone in FIFA. Time for a UK led breakaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 If Blatter gets back in tomorrow then something has to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 All jokes aside, why does FIFA actually exist? At what point did the FA, considering the game was invented in England and we were the first nation to have leagues and cup competitions etc.. decide they wanted another organisation to run football on a global scale... anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 All jokes aside, why does FIFA actually exist? At what point did the FA, considering the game was invented in England and we were the first nation to have leagues and cup competitions etc.. decide they wanted another organisation to run football on a global scale... anyone know? It exists now to keep men in their 60s and 70s flush with cash and letting them have a lavish lifestyle jetting all over the world. I can only hope Switzerland finds Blatter guilty of corruption and bans him from the country, then he cant lead FIFA. Like you, Id love to know how the FA gave up the governance to a bunch of crooks, I dont see the US giving up the baseball rights to a bunch and Asians any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 Rather surprisingly, FIFA was actually formed in 1904, and we weren't a founder member. We, along with the other Home Nations, joined a year or two later. Founder member nations: Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Holland, Spain (via Madrid Football Club - the national association didn't exist at that point), Sweden and Switzerland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 How do you have an election with just one candidate? Isn't that what happens in dictatorships?? I hate the FA but i think it is time we left Fifa. The more info that comes out about the whole Qatar thing the more it makes me angry. They have a population of about 1.5m people. Have never qualified for a world cup. Have never got past the quarter final stage of the asia cup. Have an average attendance to their main league of just 4000. They hosted the most recent Asia cup (2011) and had an average of 10,000 people. They have few stadiums above 20,000 seater let alone a 90,000 one for a final. They will make 5 stadiums for the world cup which will be all 45,000 seater. Now i am no maths genius here but if you only have an average of 4,000 people watching what is the point of having a 45,000 stadium? If football was that popular wouldn't they have already made stadiums to seat these people? It is pathetic that a country like Qatar who has almost no footballing history at all on the international stage should be allowed to host a world cup in this way. They should wait until football get's more popular naturally, not try and force it down the necks of their population. That is what ****es me off the most is that it is given to them simply because nobody in the middle east has had it before. And because of the money thrown at Fifa by them. Football has changed a lot over the years and it needs to go the same way as the IOC. You can't give out the Olympics to places that don't really have any history for the sports. Of course these events should belong to all of the world but to give the biggest one of them all to a country with a population less then Manchester and the infrastucture of the non league is a total joke. If they want to take it to new places take it to places like India,Philippines,Australia,Canada,Holland,Portugal,Sweden,Cameroon,Nigeria,Denmark,Greece,Egypt,Jamaica etc etc... There are so many countries out there who could argue that they are more deserving by either having bigger populations, having a bigger football economy and so on. That is why Japan and South Korea deserved it because while football on a domestic scale might not be to the standard of the PL they have a history of good players over in Europe which helps their national team. And the population love football. Ji Sung Park is bigger then Beckham in asia. With the Qatar national team only 1 player plays outside Qatar (Egypt). The rest are nobodies. And with the network that clubs have today in terms of scouting players i am sure they are not unseen talent waited to be discovered. They are most likely just ****. On top of all that there is a chance that our domestic season will have to have it's times moved so we play either a winter world cup or an early spring one. Why should we have to move our league times? As i said the more info that comes out the more it makes you think it is time we walked away from Fifa. They need us not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 Surely FIFA and our own FA are two sides of the same coin - incompetent and utterly out of touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 It would appear that there isn't the appetite to stop tomorrows coronation beyond the English and Scottish FA's. Personally, I would withdraw our representation from FIFA as the only protest open to us. It seems too many delegates have their snouts in Blatter's trough. To be honest, I don't really want us to be part of any further Blatter World Cups. David Davies likened Blatter to a dictator of a corrupt African or Arab country who simply refuses to give up his position. Brilliant analogy in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermcpete Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13608081.stm What a ****ing joke: Concacaf general secretary Chuck Blazer has been sacked by the body's acting president after making allegations of corruption against leading Fifa officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/international/8549155/Concacaf-acting-president-Lisle-Austin-fires-whistleblowing-general-secretary-Chuck-Blazer.html And here. He appointed Executives without authority to do so & retained legal counsel without authority. OK so he is the Whistle blower but there ARE Corporate Regulations to stop people doing things without permissions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 How do you have an election with just one candidate? Isn't that what happens in dictatorships?? I hate the FA but i think it is time we left Fifa. The more info that comes out about the whole Qatar thing the more it makes me angry. They have a population of about 1.5m people. Have never qualified for a world cup. Have never got past the quarter final stage of the asia cup. Have an average attendance to their main league of just 4000. They hosted the most recent Asia cup (2011) and had an average of 10,000 people. They have few stadiums above 20,000 seater let alone a 90,000 one for a final. They will make 5 stadiums for the world cup which will be all 45,000 seater. Now i am no maths genius here but if you only have an average of 4,000 people watching what is the point of having a 45,000 stadium? If football was that popular wouldn't they have already made stadiums to seat these people? It is pathetic that a country like Qatar who has almost no footballing history at all on the international stage should be allowed to host a world cup in this way. They should wait until football get's more popular naturally, not try and force it down the necks of their population. That is what ****es me off the most is that it is given to them simply because nobody in the middle east has had it before. And because of the money thrown at Fifa by them. Football has changed a lot over the years and it needs to go the same way as the IOC. You can't give out the Olympics to places that don't really have any history for the sports. Of course these events should belong to all of the world but to give the biggest one of them all to a country with a population less then Manchester and the infrastucture of the non league is a total joke. If they want to take it to new places take it to places like India,Philippines,Australia,Canada,Holland,Portugal,Sweden,Cameroon,Nigeria,Denmark,Greece,Egypt,Jamaica etc etc... There are so many countries out there who could argue that they are more deserving by either having bigger populations, having a bigger football economy and so on. That is why Japan and South Korea deserved it because while football on a domestic scale might not be to the standard of the PL they have a history of good players over in Europe which helps their national team. And the population love football. Ji Sung Park is bigger then Beckham in asia. With the Qatar national team only 1 player plays outside Qatar (Egypt). The rest are nobodies. And with the network that clubs have today in terms of scouting players i am sure they are not unseen talent waited to be discovered. They are most likely just ****. On top of all that there is a chance that our domestic season will have to have it's times moved so we play either a winter world cup or an early spring one. Why should we have to move our league times? As i said the more info that comes out the more it makes you think it is time we walked away from Fifa. They need us not the other way around. More importantly, Marco, why were the rules suddenly changed to award the 2022 competition to Qatar 4 years early while the current ageing incumbents are still at the trough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 (edited) If Blatter gets back in tomorrow then something has to be done. As I posted the other day, and the sentiment repeated in Martin Samuel's two page article in the Mail today, WE (the great get-up-and-go public) have the collective power to oust Blatter at the drop of a hat. Stop buying FIFA badged games/ products and, more importantly, stop buying coca cola and any other products from FIFA's sponsors. Simple. As. That Edited 1 June, 2011 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 (edited) "If you really want rid of this tawdry Stalinist dictatorship, then it is all down to you" Those who might successfully influence this process — not immediately, but over time — are actually the last people Blatter would expect. It’s you. The punters. Fans who have been schooled over many years to regard themselves as disenfranchised and feeble. They have the one thing this tawdry enterprise is all about: the money. For while Blatter may be able to see off a room of grumpy journalists, Members of Parliament, his lone opponent in the election and the odd disgruntled national FA, there is one group he cannot do without, and they are already anxious at being tainted by association. In recent days, FIFA sponsors adidas, Coca-Cola and Emirates Airlines have all issued statements expressing their concern that the image of football — and, by osmosis, that of their product — is taking a battering. Now imagine if they believed that by being linked to FIFA they were actually losing customers and that the only way those customers would return was by ending the discredited regime of president Blatter? Oh, it’s an ambitious project, all right, but it still stands more chance of succeeding than another well-intentioned speech from our man on the Kent coast. Political organisations are brutal. When the previous Government hiked the top band tax rate to 50 per cent, a pundit appeared on Sky News and facetiously advised Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, to retire to a locked room with a bottle of whisky and a revolver for what he had done to the British people. Panicked apologies from the station followed after the first commercial break. Yet, once Brown had proved unelectable, that was pretty much the metaphorical advice he received from the party he had served in Parliament for 27 years. Lord Lucan would have liked to disappear from public life with as much efficiency as Brown since the 2010 General Election. And Blatter will be gone, too, the moment he becomes a financial liability, because the accumulation of wealth is FIFA’s principal motivation. So how does the message get through to, say, Coca-Cola? It starts at your club, with the supporters group and a boycott of the product. From there, apply pressure for it not to be sold within the stadium which, if it is not being bought anyway, actually makes business sense. Now make Coca-Cola aware of this policy. Make it a national issue. Get other supporters groups from other major leagues involved. Spread the word regarding other sponsors. There are so many more of you than there are of them. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1392887/If-really-want-rid-Sepp-Blatters-tawdry-Stalinist-dictatorship--Martin-Samuel.html#ixzz1O0hQl1ZY Edited 1 June, 2011 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Looks like the FA attempts to halt the election have been shouted down by the might of the FAs of Congo, Benin, Haiti, Cyprus and Fiji. We should know our place!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Once you accept a brown envelope from Blatter, he has you in his pocket. FIFA are corrupt scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 "If you really want rid of this tawdry Stalinist dictatorship, then it is all down to you" Those who might successfully influence this process — not immediately, but over time — are actually the last people Blatter would expect. It’s you. The punters. Fans who have been schooled over many years to regard themselves as disenfranchised and feeble. They have the one thing this tawdry enterprise is all about: the money. For while Blatter may be able to see off a room of grumpy journalists, Members of Parliament, his lone opponent in the election and the odd disgruntled national FA, there is one group he cannot do without, and they are already anxious at being tainted by association. In recent days, FIFA sponsors adidas, Coca-Cola and Emirates Airlines have all issued statements expressing their concern that the image of football — and, by osmosis, that of their product — is taking a battering. Now imagine if they believed that by being linked to FIFA they were actually losing customers and that the only way those customers would return was by ending the discredited regime of president Blatter? Oh, it’s an ambitious project, all right, but it still stands more chance of succeeding than another well-intentioned speech from our man on the Kent coast. Political organisations are brutal. When the previous Government hiked the top band tax rate to 50 per cent, a pundit appeared on Sky News and facetiously advised Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, to retire to a locked room with a bottle of whisky and a revolver for what he had done to the British people. Panicked apologies from the station followed after the first commercial break. Yet, once Brown had proved unelectable, that was pretty much the metaphorical advice he received from the party he had served in Parliament for 27 years. Lord Lucan would have liked to disappear from public life with as much efficiency as Brown since the 2010 General Election. And Blatter will be gone, too, the moment he becomes a financial liability, because the accumulation of wealth is FIFA’s principal motivation. So how does the message get through to, say, Coca-Cola? It starts at your club, with the supporters group and a boycott of the product. From there, apply pressure for it not to be sold within the stadium which, if it is not being bought anyway, actually makes business sense. Now make Coca-Cola aware of this policy. Make it a national issue. Get other supporters groups from other major leagues involved. Spread the word regarding other sponsors. There are so many more of you than there are of them. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1392887/If-really-want-rid-Sepp-Blatters-tawdry-Stalinist-dictatorship--Martin-Samuel.html#ixzz1O0hQl1ZY Very unusual for Emirates to make any comment such as this. For them the World Cup is a massive value for their money. To have taken ANy risk at causing ANY offence to FIFA so that would allow someone like Qatar or Etihad into the trough is actually quite impressive. The guys at Emirates Events who run this sort of stuff are bright, and the head - Gary Chapman - is an Aussie so perhaps felt annoyed enough to allow the statement to come out. The ones to push very hard in the next weeks are the Asians - Sony, Kia, Hyundai. It doesn't just need to be a boycott, telling all your mates on FB or Twitter to join in condemning them for not "being concerned" it will soon spread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 oh , and thanks to the Welsh FA and Northern Ireland FA for not backing us up. The Premier League and the FA should throw all the welsh clubs out of the league. Tossers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 What would be the true ramifications of England withdrawing their membership of FIFA? I know that means no World Cup, but would the effects be more serious than that? It almost feels worth it, just to see Blatter's reaction to us leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 oh , and thanks to the Welsh FA and Northern Ireland FA for not backing us up. The Premier League and the FA should throw all the welsh clubs out of the league. Tossers. Because of how tit-for-tat (petty) FIFA are, they were probably reluctant as FIFA will then say something like "Oh, and we don't recognise your independence any more - get used to having a GB team". I have properly had enough of this scum... something should be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 2 June, 2011 Share Posted 2 June, 2011 http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6962879,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 2 June, 2011 Share Posted 2 June, 2011 http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#!/pages/Boycott-FIFA-Sponsors/123316127750358 Vive la Revolution! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 June, 2011 Share Posted 2 June, 2011 Nothing is going to happen and FIFA will do what they want. It disgusts me that we are marginalised in the governing body of our game. If I was in charge I would pull out and make some disparaging remarks about the inactivity of people like Coca Cola and Sony, possibly asking people to consider whether they are worth supporting in future. I wonder how much FIFA would lose out if that happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 2 June, 2011 Share Posted 2 June, 2011 What would be the true ramifications of England withdrawing their membership of FIFA? I know that means no World Cup, but would the effects be more serious than that? It almost feels worth it, just to see Blatter's reaction to us leaving Probably something along these lines: 1. No world cup 2. No international matches, as FIFA members are almost certainly banned from playing matches against non-members 3. Automatic withdrawal from UEFA, as a FIFA confederation 4. No English clubs in European competitions 5. No English club friendlies with European/worldwide clubs, same reason as #2 6. Top players leave England as there's no European competition for them to play in 7. Leading sponsors withdraw (or massively scale back) their support of the Premier League as the top players won't be there anymore 8. Billionaires dump clubs on their arse as there's no exposure or cash to be made anymore 9. The standard of the Premier League drops to resemble the SPL. The leagues below deteriorate in line. The only saving grace at this stage is that the UK market is by far and away FIFA and UEFA's biggest in terms of broadcasting revenue, ticket sales and advertising. Given the headline sponsors have voiced disapproval of the current situation (albeit with rather woolly statements), that might work in our favour, but the risks are too great for such a major step to be taken by the FA. It simply won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 June, 2011 Share Posted 2 June, 2011 i think it is clear that we now have to shut up..even our european friends are having a pop...time to shut up and build up support/build bridges with others and play FIFA at their own game....be their friend and also their enemy...wait till blatter goes and if we have anything then...unleash hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 7 June, 2011 Share Posted 7 June, 2011 i think it is clear that we now have to shut up..even our european friends are having a pop...time to shut up and build up support/build bridges with others and play FIFA at their own game....be their friend and also their enemy...wait till blatter goes and if we have anything then...unleash hell We'll always be marginalised. I wouldn't build bridges with individuals on the take. We need to put our own house in order. Get rid of the stuffed shirts at the FA and let Trevor Brooking run the whole lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 FIFA ban Mohamed bin Hammam from all international & national football activity for life after being found guilty of bribery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 FIFA ban Mohamed bin Hammam from all international & national football activity for life after being found guilty of bribery. Only 300 odd FIFA-related delegates to go then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 FIFA ban Mohamed bin Hammam from all international & national football activity for life after being found guilty of bribery. Where is this bloke from? Oh - Qatar! You really couldn't make this stuff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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