Thedelldays Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 at last, the **** is under the spotlight he is such a ******.. also, how does someone from the mighty cocacaf region have so much influence in football (jack warner) what a disgusting group of people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 It is a house of cards and hopefully is about to come crashing down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 (edited) at last, the **** is under the spotlight he is such a ******.. also, how does someone from the mighty cocacaf region have so much influence in football (jack warner) what a disgusting group of people LOL at the article on the BBC. They may well have printed "Breaking news: Soviet Union has collapsed". A lot of what is printed in that article had been found out 20 years ago by undercover reporters, I remember watching a video of a TV program that detailed evidence of Warner bribing officials to keep his presidency on a mate's Betamax I fully expect the enquiry to let them both off the hook due to "insufficient evidence", and 'business' to carry on as normal Edited 27 May, 2011 by JackFrost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 It is a house of cards and hopefully is about to come crashing down And replaced with what?? I dislike FIFA as much as anyone, and felt that the 2018 & 2022 WC locations are the icing on the cake. But if Blatter/Bin Hammam/Warner et al go, who will replace them? The alternative is the absence of a global body in charge of football, which would be a nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 Nothing is going to happen, and the pigs will keep their snouts in the trough. A real tragedy that the institution that governs the game we gave to the world has arranged their systems in such a way as to discriminate against us. I have been told a few times that when the referees meet up to discuss how to approach World Cup Finals, they are told in no uncertain terms what teams FIFA would like to proceed. Thats why I always give a wry smile when I hear the likes of Blatter and Platini express their belief that the right team won; its almost as bad as Batters ridiculous mock surprise at opening the envelops and seeing "Russia" and "Qatar". Last WC Final, if Holland's strong-arm Van Bommel dirty tactics had given them the lead against Spain, it would have been really funny watching the ref throwing the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 And replaced with what?? I dislike FIFA as much as anyone, and felt that the 2018 & 2022 WC locations are the icing on the cake. But if Blatter/Bin Hammam/Warner et al go, who will replace them? The alternative is the absence of a global body in charge of football, which would be a nightmare. A new body is formed and FIFA is no longer. The FA have already hinted that they are prepared to ditch FIFA. It woudl take three other big footballing nations to follow suit and things could happen. The problem is with FIFA is that it is rotten to the core.... It is almost impossible to repair without a clean sweep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 If England, Spain and Italy left FIFA then that is all it would need. Won't happen though, although I am looking forward to them all turning on each other shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 A new body is formed and FIFA is no longer. The FA have already hinted that they are prepared to ditch FIFA. It woudl take three other big footballing nations to follow suit and things could happen. The problem is with FIFA is that it is rotten to the core.... It is almost impossible to repair without a clean sweep. Totally agree. Have to say, I'm really enjoying the unravelling at the moment. All the greedy men who were faux-friends now pointing fingers at eachother. The problem is, I worry that nothing will happen. My biggest hope is that we leave FIFA and 3-4 or other big nations follow suit leaving the organisation in an untenable position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 The thing that comes out of this so utterly clearly is that these people have only TWO interests. Power and Money. They utterly totally and completely disregard Football, and disregard the fans. How they can charge someone like SAF or Wenger for bringing the game into disrepute when making sensible statements and yet let these morons carry on like this in Public? They are a disgrace to Football, they show up Politicians for what they really are AND they pile shame on the Country that allows them to work in "Pomp & Luxury" and pay virtually sod all taxes. Switzerland should kick them out, remove their trading licences - SOMEONE needs to give these people a Reality Slap. Oh & Qatar - how the FECK can they give the World Cup to Qatar who (IN THEIR PRESENTATION) will have Hotel Accomodation for 90,000 FANS. Yes 90,000 fans. FFS England took 36,000 to SA, and yet only 90,000 fans can watch that world cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 27 May, 2011 well, blatter did comment on how "strange" it was that the FA would abstain from voting next week... strange, really..? god I they are a bunch of ****s...I have zero faith of their own "ethics committee" getting to to the bottom of this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 28 May, 2011 Share Posted 28 May, 2011 Surely FIFA Ethics Committee is an oxymoron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 28 May, 2011 Share Posted 28 May, 2011 I have been told a few times that when the referees meet up to discuss how to approach World Cup Finals, they are told in no uncertain terms what teams FIFA would like to proceed. If you've been told it a few times it must be true then. Can't see why it can't be, given that sort of evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 28 May, 2011 Share Posted 28 May, 2011 well, blatter did comment on how "strange" it was that the FA would abstain from voting next week... strange, really..? god I they are a bunch of ****s...I have zero faith of their own "ethics committee" getting to to the bottom of this.. Don't think it will matter what the Ethics committee does TBH, FIFA lives on their sponsorship money from mega Multi-Nationals (MNC's) in their quest for "Globalisation". Thanks to changes in the law and public perception there is ONE thing that makes MNC's run a mile. That is ANY whiff of the possibility of any corruption. Budweiser, Coca Cola would run a mile. Anyone of the Korean companies trying to do business in the US would run a mile. FIFA may have actually caused their own downfall, By putting the Corporate Buck before the interest of the football fan they may just (to quote the Torygraph) have had their Salt Lake City moment. Qatar is about MNC's & emerging markets. There won't be ANY fans going - 90,000 Hotel rooms and NOTHING less than 4 star at $500 a night... Football won't bring them down. The FA and boycotts won't bring them down. It will be Coke & Bud & Samsung & Hyundai. Wanna start the wave then get onto the blogs of their forums and say you will never buy another one of their products while they support such an allegedly corrupt organisation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 28 May, 2011 Share Posted 28 May, 2011 **** em all. they play with our game as if they were feudal lords. they should swing from lamp posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 29 May, 2011 Share Posted 29 May, 2011 And Bin Hammam drops out the voting race today. Oh wow now there is a surprise. Watch the whole thing go away and Blatter endorse BH as his successor in 4 years or whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 29 May, 2011 Share Posted 29 May, 2011 So all the charges against Blatter are dropped and now he can stand unopposed next week. What a joke! I wish we would just break-away already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 29 May, 2011 Share Posted 29 May, 2011 What a farce that press conference was. Bin Hamamm and Jack Warner suspended and banned from any footballing activity,whereas Blatter new of the meeting and the exchange of cash and did not delcare it and gets off scot free. Crooked from top too bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 29 May, 2011 they would have kept it all hush hush if they could...like when they laughed off the FA initially when the claims were made.. I hate them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 29 May, 2011 Share Posted 29 May, 2011 Lol at blatter being investigated and cleared by the 'FIFA' committee. Joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 29 May, 2011 Share Posted 29 May, 2011 What a farce that press conference was. Bin Hamamm and Jack Warner suspended and banned from any footballing activity,whereas Blatter new of the meeting and the exchange of cash and did not delcare it and gets off scot free. Crooked from top too bottom. Laughable! Blatter is the worst of the lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 Jack Warner has suddenly gone up in my estimation... here is what is probably the first in a long line of statements from him which will form part of the "tsunami" he spoke of last week: I attended the FIFA enquiry today at 12 noon pursuant to a request made of me by FIFA to answer allegation made by Chuck Blazer, General Secretary of CONCACAF. I have learned this evening via the media that I have been provisionally suspended by the FIFA Ethics Committee. This has come both as a shock and surprise to me. At the conclusion of the enquiry I specifically requested that I be notified of any decision as I had learned via the media before attending the hearing that a decision would be handed down at 5:00PM. Despite leaving my contact details, up to this point, I still have not received any notification from the FIFA. At the hearing I indicated that I submitted two written statements outlining my position. I expressed my disappointment with the way in which the enquiry was conducted as I was given less than twenty four hours to submit a statement for consideration by the committee and, moreover, one of the five members of the Committee is from Uruguay and did not have the value of a translated version of my or Mr bin Hammam's submission. This lack of translation services brings into question the issue of due process. In addition, FIFA did not have the courtesy to provide me with copies of the allegations before the hearing and it was only during the hearing were the allegations read to me. At the hearing, among other things, I was asked about the special meeting with the CFU to hear Mr Bin Hammam and whether such a meeting was normal I indicated that President Blatter earlier this year had held a similar meeting in South Africa with thirty seven countries and no objections had been made of that to date. In fact this has been the practice of FIFA in holding meetings with member countries before elections. I denied the allegations that I made statements at the CFU meeting about gifts being given by Mr Bin Hammam. I also indicated that at the Miami CONCACAF Congress on May 3rd Mr. Blatter made a gift of one million USD to CONCACAF to spend as it deems fit. This annoyed President Michel Platini who was present and he approached Secretary General Jerome Valcke complaining that Mr Blatter had no permission from the Finance Committee to make this gift to which Jerome replied that he will find the money for Mr Blatter. I also indicated at the CFU meeting held in Trinidad on May 10 which was requested by Mr. Bin Hammam, FIFA through Mr. Blatter organised gifts of laptops and projectors to all members of the Caribbean and no objections have been made today of this to date. In my statement I attached letters from thirteen Federations whose members attended the CFU Meeting where the allegations of gifts were made. These statements from the 13 members denied the allegations that have been made against me and any participation of these individuals in the act complained of. While with regard to the allegation of payment only one statement was submitted by Collins & Collins. On May 18 when I realised that the political battle between Blatter and Bin Hammam was getting out of hand I wrote Secretary General Valcke telling him, among other things, that the outcome of the elections may cause some fracture in the Arab world which we can ill afford now and that I will like to ask Bin Hammam to withdraw from the race. To which Jerome replied to me and I quote : "For MBH, I never understood why he was running. If really he thought he had a chance or just being an extreme way to express how much he does not like anymore JSB. Or he thought you can buy FIFA as they bought the WC. I have a bet since day one, he will withdraw but on June 1st after his 10 min speech. By doing so he can say he push Blatter to make new commitments bla bla bla and get out under applause. Before means he is a looser. So...He will get some votes. Less than 60 today after CAF support. It will be the "coup de grace" if you would officially send a message as the CONCACAF President by saying CONCACAF supports unanimously. So I am not giving you an advice but just my feeling about what I think is the situation." Despite the plea from SG Valcke, I refused to give any advice about how CONCACAF will be voting. At no time during this matter was I ever contacted by Mr. Blazer nor did he contact the Executive or the Emergency Committee of the CONCACAF and it is informative for one to look at Mr Blazer's credibility by referring to the report of the NY District Court Judge in the matter between Master Card and Visa in the FIFA matter of 7th December 2006 . (para 213) Mr. Blazer's testimony was generally without credibility based on his attitude and demeanor on his evasive answers on cross-examination. (para 214) Thus, for that reason and based on his evasive answers and his attitude and demeanor, Mr. Blazer's testimony as the March 14, 2006 Marketing & TV AG Board meeting is rejected as fabricated. The complaints made in this matter are politically motivated against Mr Bin Hammam and me and are designed, among other things, to cause serious prejudice and damage to both Mr Bin Hammam and myself at one of the most critical times for the FIFA. It is also shocking that at the close of an inquiry at around 5:47pm when the decision was already delivered new evidence in the form of a fax from the Puerto Rico FF appears making allegations which were treated as part of the evidence in this matter. This further demonstrates in the way the enquiry was conducted and the prejudice against me. The decision to suspend me is an abuse of the process and achieves no real purpose as stated in the decision and again demonstrates the bias of this enquiry. I intend to say a lot more on this matter shortly. In the meantime, I will vigorously defend my reputation as well as the reputation of the rest of the Caribbean members. Respectfully submitted Sgd Jack Warner And so the house of cards begins to fall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 Jack Warner has suddenly gone up in my estimation... here is what is probably the first in a long line of statements from him which will form part of the "tsunami" he spoke of last week: And so the house of cards begins to fall... Yep. no-one believes Blatter is innocent, and yesterdays clearing is hillarious. FIFA is just about to disappear up its own arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 The old dinosaur is to hold a press conference 16.00 GMT Monday. Probably going to be full of self praise. I dislike him nearly as much as a couple of past Saints "leaders" http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/news/article/-/9545350/blatter-to-host-news-conference-in-zurich/ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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