dune Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 On ITV1 now. I think he's brilliant. My favourite royal by a country mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Why is he Brilliant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 24 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Why is he Brilliant? Because he has a sound outlook and a great sense of humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Because he has a sound outlook and a great sense of humour. That's debatable, but it hardly makes someone 'brilliant'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 24 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 24 May, 2011 That's debatable, but it hardly makes someone 'brilliant'. What makes someone brilliant in the opinion of an eliteist Liberal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 An impoverished, exiled, mongrel mix of Danish, Greek, and German who marrried well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I heard on the radio today hes 500 and something to the throne! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 An impoverished, exiled, mongrel mix of Danish, Greek, and German who marrried well. Godwin's Law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 What makes someone brilliant in the opinion of an eliteist Liberal? Would please stop using that term for me as you are using it totally out of context and it makes you look silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Who was responsible for the seating plan at the banquet tonight? He's only rocked up next to First Lady Obama! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13534368 Unless he's just keeping the seat warm for the President? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Army Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 On ITV1 now. I think he's brilliant. My favourite royal by a country mile. You like immigrants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Because he has a sound outlook and a great sense of humour. So utterly xenophobic (irony right there) equals sound outlook does it. As for his sense of humour; if you get off on belittling and denigrating people then he's absolutely hilarious. Myself, I think he's a dinosaur who shouldn't be allowed out in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 What makes someone brilliant in the opinion of an eliteist Liberal? Brilliant? An interesting person who combines several of the following traits: clever, intelligent, creative, funny, articulate, thoughtful, hard-working ... I think he fails on most counts, don't you? BTW, weird to call someone elitist (note the spelling) right after praising a person like PP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 25 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2011 So utterly xenophobic (irony right there) equals sound outlook does it. As for his sense of humour; if you get off on belittling and denigrating people then he's absolutely hilarious. Myself, I think he's a dinosaur who shouldn't be allowed out in public. The fact you dislike him enforces the point that he is sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 25 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2011 An impoverished, exiled, mongrel mix of Danish, Greek, and German who marrried well. I find your terminologyy of mixed race people to be highly offensive. Or is this terminology acceptable when coming from a superior Socialist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 I find your terminologyy of mixed race people to be highly offensive. Or is this terminology acceptable when coming from a superior Socialist? I am glad that you have acknowledged my superiority ! As for mongrel - "A cross between different breeds, groups, or varieties,", so an accurate adjective in this case. Not derogatory, merely appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 I once met Prince Philip. Here's my anecdote for those that have that close season boredom... I was given the task of demonstrating the Internet to him in his private quarters at Windsor castle. This was back in the mid-nineties I guess. He'd been told about the WWF web site (The wildlife one not the wresting!) as he was a patron and wanted to see it. He is (was?) quite a keen computer user and the company I was working for had the royal warrant to supply him with hardware and software. I spent about an hour and a half with him. And in that time I found him to be very cold and distant and he made no effort to put me at my ease. He seemed to lack the common touch and he showed no personal warmth whatsoever. He's also much shorter than you'd think. I assumed he was taller because he's always shown next to the Queen who is really short. I'm 6'1" and I towered over him. Anyway I took a computer with me and hooked it up to his telephone line and used a Demon Internet dial-up to get online. I was briefed by his Equerry, who incidentally stank of scotch at 10am in the morning, on how to behave and what to say and what not say. I was told not to make any physical contact such as a hand-shake or a pat on the back. I was told to refer to him as Sir and to respect the fact that he was a member of the Royal family. The implication being that I was not worthy. It was quite daunting to be honest. Anyway, he'd been using a character-based operating system (BOS for those that know their COBOL) and hadn't had any experience with a mouse. I showed him Windows and demonstrated how the mouse worked and asked him if he wanted a go. He took the mouse in his hand but he had it round the wrong way. The cable of the mouse was pointing up his sleeve. He kept saying "It's really confusing isn't it. It appears to go in the opposite bloody direction". I wanted to reach out and turn the mouse round for him but with the Equerry's words ringing in my ears about formality and respecting his status I watched him struggle for a while because I was distracted be a caterpillar (see below). Eventually he mastered it - moving the mouse the opposite way to where he wanted to go and he said "Why do they make you go left instead of right and up instead of down?" and I sheepishly answered that "I think Sir would find it works better if Sir were to turn the mouse round the other way". To which he promptly put the mouse on its back with the trackball pointing at the ceiling. We got there in the end. Those of you old enough to remember the speed of the internet on 14.4K baud, and the lack of creativity in the early web sites can probably imagine how excruciating it was to sit next to the Queen's husband for 10 minutes trying painfully to make small talk as a ****ing great Panda was re-produced on the WWF web site home page, pixel by bloody pixel. Then we took another 10 minutes to get their contact details up. I think I must have single-handedly put him off the Internet for life. Finally, I had nightmares for days afterwards. You see as I was arriving at the castle in my car, I'd seen Prince Philip steering a horse-drawn cart up the avenue to the castle from the Great Park. When I met him inside he was still sweating and dressed in the same clothes that he'd worn whilst riding in amongst the trees. Well I noticed that along the top of his ear was a green caterpillar - a sort of tiny inch worm affair. I'd seen it climbing up his ear while he was struggling with the mouse and thought to myself what do you do? Knock it off with your hand? Say "Excuse me Queen's husband but you've got a bright green caterpillar on your ear". So I ignored it. When I later looked for it, it had disappeared. Well for a couple of nights afterwards I woke up thinking that the caterpillar had got into his ear. And every time I hear him make another gaff in the paper, I'm convinced it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 25 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2011 I am glad that you have acknowledged my superiority ! As for mongrel - "A cross between different breeds, groups, or varieties,", so an accurate adjective in this case. Not derogatory, merely appropriate. Is this how you describe Barrack Obama? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 25 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2011 I once met Prince Philip. Here's my anecdote for those that have that close season boredom... I was given the task of demonstrating the Internet to him in his private quarters at Windsor castle. This was back in the mid-nineties I guess. He'd been told about the WWF web site (The wildlife one not the wresting!) as he was a patron and wanted to see it. He is (was?) quite a keen computer user and the company I was working for had the royal warrant to supply him with hardware and software. I spent about an hour and a half with him. And in that time I found him to be very cold and distant and he made no effort to put me at my ease. He seemed to lack the common touch and he showed no personal warmth whatsoever. He's also much shorter than you'd think. I assumed he was taller because he's always shown next to the Queen who is really short. I'm 6'1" and I towered over him. Anyway I took a computer with me and hooked it up to his telephone line and used a Demon Internet dial-up to get online. I was briefed by his Equerry, who incidentally stank of scotch at 10am in the morning, on how to behave and what to say and what not say. I was told not to make any physical contact such as a hand-shake or a pat on the back. I was told to refer to him as Sir and to respect the fact that he was a member of the Royal family. The implication being that I was not worthy. It was quite daunting to be honest. Anyway, he'd been using a character-based operating system (BOS for those that know their COBOL) and hadn't had any experience with a mouse. I showed him Windows and demonstrated how the mouse worked and asked him if he wanted a go. He took the mouse in his hand but he had it round the wrong way. The cable of the mouse was pointing up his sleeve. He kept saying "It's really confusing isn't it. It appears to go in the opposite bloody direction". I wanted to reach out and turn the mouse round for him but with the Equerry's words ringing in my ears about formality and respecting his status I watched him struggle for a while because I was distracted be a caterpillar (see below). Eventually he mastered it - moving the mouse the opposite way to where he wanted to go and he said "Why do they make you go left instead of right and up instead of down?" and I sheepishly answered that "I think Sir would find it works better if Sir were to turn the mouse round the other way". To which he promptly put the mouse on its back with the trackball pointing at the ceiling. We got there in the end. Those of you old enough to remember the speed of the internet on 14.4K baud, and the lack of creativity in the early web sites can probably imagine how excruciating it was to sit next to the Queen's husband for 10 minutes trying painfully to make small talk as a ****ing great Panda was re-produced on the WWF web site home page, pixel by bloody pixel. Then we took another 10 minutes to get their contact details up. I think I must have single-handedly put him off the Internet for life. Finally, I had nightmares for days afterwards. You see as I was arriving at the castle in my car, I'd seen Prince Philip steering a horse-drawn cart up the avenue to the castle from the Great Park. When I met him inside he was still sweating and dressed in the same clothes that he'd worn whilst riding in amongst the trees. Well I noticed that along the top of his ear was a green caterpillar - a sort of tiny inch worm affair. I'd seen it climbing up his ear while he was struggling with the mouse and thought to myself what do you do? Knock it off with your hand? Say "Excuse me Queen's husband but you've got a bright green caterpillar on your ear". So I ignored it. When I later looked for it, it had disappeared. Well for a couple of nights afterwards I woke up thinking that the caterpillar had got into his ear. And every time I hear him make another gaff in the paper, I'm convinced it did. Ha Ha, good story. To be fair you shouldn't have been nervous. Prince Phillip is sound as a pound. I know i'd get on really well with him because I say it like it is. I can just picture him with the mouse. That's exactly how most old people would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 An impoverished, exiled, mongrel mix of Danish, Greek, and German who marrried well. Calling a human a mongrel is very offensive Would you accept and EDL member calling a mixed race person a mongrel? Or nick griffin? Would you call mr Obama a mongrel? Imagine if dune had called someone a mongrel, would you have seen his point? That is a disgrace and phill not only seems a good person but also a WW2 veteran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 As someone who is English but has a splash of mixed race about me, I am utterly disgusted by the mongrel comments and would expect the MODS to act accordingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 (edited) As someone who is English but has a splash of mixed race about me, I am utterly disgusted by the mongrel comments and would expect the MODS to act accordingly I am also English ( predominantly ), with some Scots and Welsh, and am quite happy to refer to myself as a mongrel - so yah boo sucks to you and dunce ! And as for the President of the USofA, to call him a mongrel is more accurate than his claim to be Irish ! Edited 25 May, 2011 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Because he has a sound outlook and a great sense of humour. Like millions of others then but with the added bonus of leeching millions of pounds from the taxpayers pocket. I'd also question how you'd arrive at either of your conclusions but I suspect your sycophancy would blind you to any rational argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Because you are happy to call yourself what ever does not make it right. Calling a human a mongrel with regards to their race/nationality is very wrong and you know it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 25 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Calling a human a mongrel is very offensive Would you accept and EDL member calling a mixed race person a mongrel? Or nick griffin? Would you call mr Obama a mongrel? Imagine if dune had called someone a mongrel, would you have seen his point? That is a disgrace and phill not only seems a good person but also a WW2 veteran. Badgerx16's use of the term is a classic example of the Superior Socialists double standards. As you rightly say if an EDL supporter or me or you had used the term to describe Barrack Obama the holier than thou on here would now be going divvy, but because one of their comrades uses the term to describe a member of the Royal family they are as silent as the grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 "To his credit, the not-really-Greek-after-all Phil (it turns out he’s a blue-blood mongrel mix of Danish, Russian and German with probably a little Croat on the side) made it abundantly clear he had no time for the toadying Titchmarsh’s smarm offensive." Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/tv/reviews/864218-prince-philip-at-90-had-the-posh-and-posher-falling-over-themselves#ixzz1NMWQpt3Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 25 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Badgerx16 would you walk up a person who looked mixed race and ask them if they were a mongrel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Badgerx16 would you walk up a person who looked mixed race and ask them if they were a mongrel? Unlike you, I wouldn't cross the road to avoid them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 25 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Unlike you, I wouldn't cross the road to avoid them. Why won't you answer the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 It's not an original concept : http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/welcome-to-the-mongrel-nation-667933.html ...................................... http://thinkofengland.blogspot.com/2006/11/100-mongrel.html "One gentleman, in for a larger surprise than most, was convinced that he was 100 per cent English. His definition of what he meant by that? All of his relatives had been born here, for at least 12 generations. When pressed, he admitted he did not know this for sure, but was certain that it must be the case. I presented Dr Thomas with this criterion as a measure of Englishness and asked him, using it as a guide, how many 'English' people currently lived in England. The scientist thought about it. 'At a rough guess? Er, zero.' Such a thing would only have been possible if a particular social group, isolated from the rest of society, had inbred for centuries. When all this was explained to our participant, he took the point and was ultimately rather relieved to learn that he was anything but English, according to his own, original standards. 'I guess we're all mongrels,' was his phlegmatic response to the results of his gene test - which showed, in fact, that much of his genetic make-up pointed to origins in Russia and Eurasia." ...................................... http://www.outlineproductions.co.uk/catalogue_detail.aspx?program=191 Eddie Izzard's Mongrel Nation There is no such thing as pure Englishness. The Cross of St. George is merely a flag of convenience for an array of other nationalities and races who have combined in a two millennia-old melting pot to create the country in which we live. Whether it’s genetic and genealogical heritage, language, place names, buildings, culture, food, money, commerce, Christian and surnames, key institutions, humour, religion, art, events – practically all the components of our national heritage and identity come from abroad. In three hours of television, Eddie Izzard demonstrates how all of these cornerstones of the English way of life are foreign in their origin. In three hour long programmes, he examines how England became the Mongrel Nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Why won't you answer the question? Because I don't have to. You are trying to prove a point that is not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Shanks Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 What is wrong with most people in today's society? We now live in a country (thanks to years of a Labour government) where people seem to get upset about the slightest thing or take the greatest offence to the most innocent of off the cuff comments. There appears to be a need for people to apologise about everything and anything despite something being said quite innocently. If this country wants to rebuild, people (including people on this forum) need to get off their high horse (mongrel horse or otherwise) and grow a spine and stop bloody whinging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 As someone who is English but has a splash of mixed race about me, I am utterly disgusted by the mongrel comments and would expect the MODS to act accordingly That's you on Stanley's ignore list then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 (edited) 'Mongrel' isn't a term I'd use to describe someone, I think in a general context it's a fair enough term to use but it does have a negative connotation. Having said that it is a bit rich that the "PC gone mad" brigade like Dune are moaning about it. Edit - to be fair to badgerx16 he was taking a direct quotation from the linked article. Edited 25 May, 2011 by anothersaintinsouthsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 'Mongrel' isn't a term I'd use to describe someone, I think in a general context it's a fair enough term to use but it does have a negative connotation. Having said that it is a bit rich that the "PC gone mad" brigade like Dune are moaning about it. Edit - to be fair to badgerx16 he was taking a direct quotation from the linked article. Indeed, but they like to be consistent in their inconsistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 25 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2011 'Mongrel' isn't a term I'd use to describe someone, I think in a general context it's a fair enough term to use but it does have a negative connotation. Having said that it is a bit rich that the "PC gone mad" brigade like Dune are moaning about it. Edit - to be fair to badgerx16 he was taking a direct quotation from the linked article. I'm highlighting another example of the Liberal Elite/Superior Socialists ''don't do as I do, do as I say' attitude. If I had used the term mongrel they would have had a collective fit of the vapours, but because a comrade of theirs uses the term 'mongrel' to describe a royal it's alright. This perfectly illustrates the intolerance and control freakery of the holier than thou left wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 I'm highlighting another example of the Liberal Elite/Superior Socialists ''don't do as I do, do as I say' attitude. If I had used the term mongrel they would have had a collective fit of the vapours, but because a comrade of theirs uses the term 'mongrel' to describe a royal it's alright. This perfectly illustrates the intolerance and control freakery of the holier than thou left wingers. He used it in a direct quotation. Anyway as I said it's not a term I'd use to describe someone. As an aside you do realise that you sound like a right idiot when you parrot your "Liberal Elite" and "Superior Socialist" lines don't you? For one thing, as someone who considers themselves to be a Liberal minded person thanks for confirming that I'm elite, secondly liberal and socialist are very different concepts. You're not on Fox News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefunkygibbons Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 At 90, still to be walking 2 steps behind the Queen shows a strong sense of duty and devotion For me, his involvement in many charities and the creation of the Duke of Edinburgh Award Scheme will be a lasting legacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 I'm highlighting another example of the Liberal Elite/Superior Socialists ''don't do as I do, do as I say' attitude. If I had used the term mongrel they would have had a collective fit of the vapours, but because a comrade of theirs uses the term 'mongrel' to describe a royal it's alright. This perfectly illustrates the intolerance and control freakery of the holier than thou left wingers. If a person of Asian descent describes himself as a 'Paki' is it racist ? If you do, it most certainly is. The harm is in the intent, not the word itself. If I had wanted to vent my spleen I would have described Prince Philip as an 'overprivileged, xenophobic, bigoted, leech', but I didn't, I used an entirely appropriate descriptive term for somebody of mixed heritage, who dropped lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 I'm surprised a right winger Daily Express/Mail reader like Dune is impressed with Prince Phillip. I thought they were against people getting paid for doing nothing and his parenting skills come stright out of the worst sink estates. Oldest son, conducted long term affair whilst married, youngest son behaves like a Premiership footballer and has a friendship with a known paedophile.If Prince Phiilip lived in a high rise block of flats,Dune would be calling for him to get a proper job or be removed back to Greece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 I'm surprised a right winger Daily Express/Mail reader like Dune is impressed with Prince Phillip. I thought they were against people getting paid for doing nothing and his parenting skills come stright out of the worst sink estates. Oldest son, conducted long term affair whilst married, youngest son behaves like a Premiership footballer and has a friendship with a known paedophile.If Prince Phiilip lived in a high rise block of flats,Dune would be calling for him to get a proper job or be removed back to Greece. Only the most obsequious sycophant would overlook the fellow's obvious lack of social skills and discretion. Not forgetting his racist tendencies. The fact you dislike him enforces the point that he is sound. The fact that you like him enforces the point that your tendencies are still there, just bubbling under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 I think it's about time we had a good old Winston Churchill quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 I think it's about time we had a good old Winston Churchill quote. Or a YouTube link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Or a YouTube link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRI4lCdcP0o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 His best gaff was when he visited a steel band comprised of deaf children. After smiling at them while they played he turned to the teacher and quipped: "I'm not surprised they're deaf after that racket!" Feking quality! A national treasure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 25 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2011 I used an entirely appropriate descriptive term for somebody of mixed heritage, who dropped lucky. So fellow comrades. Is "Mongrel" an entirely approriate term for a mixed race person? I need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 So fellow comrades. Is "Mongrel" an entirely approriate term for a mixed race person? I need to know. I couldn't give a two tonne sh-it if someone calls a mixed race person a 'mongrel'. But if you call my half-whippet, half-collie a mongrel I'll beat the living cr-ap outta you. She's the most beautiful hound in all Christendom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 25 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2011 I couldn't give a two tonne sh-it if someone calls a mixed race person a 'mongrel'. But if you call my half-whippet, half-collie a mongrel I'll beat the living cr-ap outta you. She's the most beautiful hound in all Christendom. No dog is better looking, or has a better personality than my Jake. Oh and he's a KC registered pedigree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 No dog is better looking, or has a better personality than my Jake. Oh and he's a KC registered pedigree. He is a very pretty dog, Dune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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