farawaysaint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I've been reading the website for many years now and just lately it seems that everything they post has negative connotations towards the club or management. Fair enough, it's never been the most level headed reading material out there but what the hell is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Is Nick still banned from owning a season ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Lets hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Some people find success to be an anathema to a particular outlook on life or on their politics. No idea if that applies in this case, but think Dune nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brussels Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 It also seems that some of their regulars have made a breakaway to a new forum called IBO. I read the UI about once a month and although we sometimes complain about this place, spending a few moments on there, makes you realise how good this forum actually is. Why anyone would prefer the UI to SWF is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Lets hope so. I'd need to know the reason for his ban before agreeing with this. If he was banned for using the title "chairman of the Saints Trust" when this joke of a fans group no longer exists, then i'd agree with Cortese's decision. I have no problem with Nick having an opinion, but for him to elevate his personal opinion with a fake and misleading title is not on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I'd need to know the reason for his ban before agreeing with this. If he was banned for using the title "chairman of the Saints Trust" when this joke of a fans group no longer exists, then i'd agree with Cortese's decision. I have no problem with Nick having an opinion, but for him to elevate his personal opinion with a fake and misleading title is not on. I couldn't have said it better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I'd need to know the reason for his ban before agreeing with this. If he was banned for using the title "chairman of the Saints Trust" when this joke of a fans group no longer exists, then i'd agree with Cortese's decision. I have no problem with Nick having an opinion, but for him to elevate his personal opinion with a fake and misleading title is not on. In the last year or so our illustrious leader on here Steve Grant has been labelled Saints Trust vice chairman by the Echo, also a character called Jason McFeat has been called this. To be fair to Nick, i dont think he uses this title himself, it's more that the echo chose to label people with it. Regardless of if you agree with him or not, sometimes i do, sometimes i dont, at least he has an opinion and questions the club rather than blindly repeating the "in Nicola we trust" mantra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Probably because he's not allowed a seat on the board so is annoyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/fb_news.php?storyid=12632 moaning at the delay in releasing the retained list ffs! 1) football season not even over yet 2) think it was earlier than last year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Can he not just give money to a mate, who buys the ST and then just gives it to him? Or is Cortese stood at the turnstile with a shotgun waiting for him every match? I highly doubt it could be enforced for him not to attend, and there are so many ways around it it's untrue. I think he highlights the "I can't have a ST" just a little too much, when in reality he probably could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/fb_news.php?storyid=12632 moaning at the delay in releasing the retained list ffs! 1) football season not even over yet 2) think it was earlier than last year! LMFAO at some of the bitterness on there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 LMFAO at some of the bitterness on there! It's unreal. I don't know what to say regarding that article. I know one thing, you don't have to meet the guy to know he is a complete bellend, and if I ever do i'll happily tell it him to his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 It's unreal. I don't know what to say regarding that article. I know one thing, you don't have to meet the guy to know he is a complete bellend, and if I ever do i'll happily tell it him to his face. I'm only half way through and I'm amazed at how stupid it is. How can you get your knickers in a twist over something like this? I think they must be the type of people who come out of the woodwork en masse when the club is at a crisis point with various vitriolic articles. I am particularly amused by the "the club are witholding information on purpose to spite the supporters" accusation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 at least he has an opinion and questions the club rather than blindly repeating the "in Nicola we trust" mantra. I've got nothing at all against this. There is a disproportiate number of happy clappys on here that think Nicole can do no wrong and blindly suck his cock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I am Chairman of the Offical Trust of Saints Supporters. I speak for the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I am Chairman of the Offical Trust of Saints Supporters. I speak for the fans. Ring up the Echo and they'll give you your own column. However be aware that the magic circle - Nick Illingsworth, Steve Godwin etc won't be amused about you encroaching on their patch. On seconds thoughts organise a quiz night and really f/ck them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 (edited) http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/fb_news.php?storyid=12632 moaning at the delay in releasing the retained list ffs! 1) football season not even over yet 2) think it was earlier than last year! Hmmmm, the hinging statement (Or is it in fact a question? it's very poorly written.). " Professional sport only exists due to the interest of the general public ! Why would you want to deny them access to information that they want to know!"Answer: Sometimes revealling too much too soon can be detrimental, especially when it's not ready. The interests of the supporting public can therefore be enhanced by keeping the information close until it's ready. But no, fine, the club owes every fan everything. The closing statement is hillarious. in truth I want to see a united football club again, one where everyone is united in that common goal, be it the Chairman, the staff, the players, the supporters, ex players, corporate(or potential) corporate sponsors and lastly and not leastly the local and national media. Nick, the virtue of patience would allow that to happen, from the 'fans' perspective at least anyway. Out of 22,000 people (an estimate at our average attendance this year) you will NEVER be able to please all the people all of the time. So frankly, fretting over the selective way our PR seems to operate can only be futile. Edited 24 May, 2011 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Out of 22,000 people (an estimate at our average attendance this year) you will NEVER be able to please all the people all of the time. So frankly, fretting over the selective way our PR seems to operate can only be futile. If I was given a choice between the PR now, and the political PR of the past where snippets were leaked to the uber fan clique to drip feed to us minions, then i'd take the current situation without any hesitation. Just think back to how bad things used to be and we haven't got a lot to complain about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I have been defending Nick from some of the unwarranted abuse on here, but I have to say that it's clear recently that he is knocking the club for the most stupid things. He is clearly still annoyed about the season ticket thing (which he has a point with.) but there isn't a lot he can do. His comments about crowds are just bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 If I was given a choice between the PR now, and the political PR of the past where snippets were leaked to the uber fan clique to drip feed to us minions, then i'd take the current situation without any hesitation. Just think back to how bad things used to be and we haven't got a lot to complain about now. Spot on - political PR and a story-a-day are the antithesis of transparency; they are patronising and view fans not as equals but as numpties that can legitimately be manipulated and fed sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 I have been defending Nick from some of the unwarranted abuse on here, but I have to say that it's clear recently that he is knocking the club for the most stupid things. He is clearly still annoyed about the season ticket thing (which he has a point with.) but there isn't a lot he can do. His comments about crowds are just bizarre. He could at "leastly" try shutting his mouth for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 He could at "leastly" try shutting his mouth for a bit. Yeah that annoyed me too lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 If I was given a choice between the PR now, and the political PR of the past where snippets were leaked to the uber fan clique to drip feed to us minions, then i'd take the current situation without any hesitation. Just think back to how bad things used to be and we haven't got a lot to complain about now. those who feel less important than they once were, are those quicker to moan - there as well as here. (using keyboar* where the letter between c & e not working so using strange phrases to avoi* it!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/fb_news.php?storyid=12646 He's not all doom gloom and agenda driven. That's a fair article praising our stability. Heck, almost Happy Clappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 There's a 534 page thread on Nick Illingsworth, season tickets and stuff like that. I'll dig it out to save people the trouble of having to create another tome about exactly the same thing. HTH IMHO if course Make of that what you will. Monkey chicken zoo. Remy Martin Etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert7 Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 It also seems that some of their regulars have made a breakaway to a new forum called IBO. I read the UI about once a month and although we sometimes complain about this place, spending a few moments on there, makes you realise how good this forum actually is. Why anyone would prefer the UI to SWF is beyond me. What is this IBO you speak of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 I've got nothing at all against this. There is a disproportiate number of happy clappys on here that think Nicole can do no wrong and blindly suck his cock. Wow. First time I have appeared on the happy-clappy side of the fence. NC has delivered our first promotion in nearly 40 years, and I think he can do no wrong at the moment. I'd draw the line at sucking his c*ck though. I might give it a quick rub through his trousers if he asks, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 Wow. First time I have appeared on the happy-clappy side of the fence. NC has delivered our first promotion in nearly 40 years, and I think he can do no wrong at the moment. I'd draw the line at sucking his c*ck though. I might give it a quick rub through his trousers if he asks, mind. That's an incredibly stupid statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 That's an incredibly stupid statement. Whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 What is this IBO you speak of? Irritable bowel order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 Irritable bowel order? Irreversible body odour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 IBO I Be Out BLOIE Back Later On I Expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 does the UI have an agenda....no but illingsworth clearly does..he is not even trying to be subtle anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 It also seems that some of their regulars have made a breakaway to a new forum called IBO. I read the UI about once a month and although we sometimes complain about this place, spending a few moments on there, makes you realise how good this forum actually is. Why anyone would prefer the UI to SWF is beyond me. No infraction points!!! As for the IBO, that was formed by a group of people who take the internet far too seriously, a bit like a lot on here so i'm sure many from here would fit in no problem. In short they were okay to dish out abuse but when they got it back they went crying to Nick with a list of conditions they wanted him to apply (including banning some people, i believe, who they had ironically been abusing themselves) or they were going to disapear off into the sun set and set up their own forum. It seems too ridiculous to believe but when you see quotes on the IBO forum with people saying things like "i had had enough of the UI forum and this place gave me hope" It gives you an idea of the mentality of the people that use it. It sounds more like a rehab clinic than an internet football forum to me. But to some people, the internet and specifically football forums = serious business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 WOW So, a thread about TUI tells us that Alps would consider rubbing NC's willy. I love this forum's complete randomness at times Don't worry Alps - won't need to happen mate. He's Italian, you'd never be able to find it So an ex GF once implied about Men who wear Designer Clothes and have fast cars or boats or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 The Fanzine was one of the best in the business and got voted in the top 5 fanzines on many occassions. I do not have a problem with Nick, and I do not feel he speaks for me, but he is a Southampton FC fan at the end of the day. I sometimes post on the UI and find it a lot more light hearted, and know many of the people on there. I do not think there is an agenda, but if I was refused a season ticket I would be a little unhappy to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 The Fanzine was one of the best in the business and got voted in the top 5 fanzines on many occassions. I do not have a problem with Nick, and I do not feel he speaks for me, but he is a Southampton FC fan at the end of the day. I sometimes post on the UI and find it a lot more light hearted, and know many of the people on there. I do not think there is an agenda, but if I was refused a season ticket I would be a little unhappy to. That's the thing people fail to get, he doesn't claim to. I've never seen a quote from him claiming that he does either. Steve Grant, Steve Goodwin, Jason McFeat and that short ginger one whose name escapes me (mike something?) all give comments to the echo it's just their view on any given subject they've been asked about, they dont get any of the grief Nick does. None of them "speak for the fans" it's just their view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypie Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 i just read the article right thro, and the comments. Theres 10 minutes i will never get back. Barely any of the comments support the article, which is good to see and NI seems to miss-quote those comments to further push his argument. If he really thinks there are fans that are going to change there mind about going to games because some bickering on a forum about when the kit details are being released surely he is not seeing straight? Also i cant see NC reading it and thinking "wow thanks for that, i see where i am going wrong now." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 That's the thing people fail to get, he doesn't claim to. Yet he does make grandious sweeping statements like 'The fanbase is divided' over the club being a little quieter then he himself would like. That's more then a little over-reaching for the viewpoint of 'one fan.' As for agenda, has there been any personal attacks on this website over there recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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