Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 (edited) Were you at a game when any of this happened? Did you either confront the individuals or report it? I'm guessing a "no" to at least the second question... To be fair I can't cross the Kingsland to the Northam and booing a player in itself is difficult to prove to be racist. Edited 24 May, 2011 by Dibden Purlieu Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 (edited) Oxo is black, as was Theo and everyone lurves them. BWP and Dyer robbed some poor girl in a nightclub they deserve whatever boos they got. Jones was black and popular and Wright despite putting his all into every performance was often booed. I'm not saying there aren't idiots who would willingly boo black players just that they're in the minority, (at Saints anyway.) Jones was criticised roundly until he had his breakout season, he would have been out of the door before he could prove himself if it was up to some fans. Edited 24 May, 2011 by Dibden Purlieu Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Why are people getting so angry about this. I am not accusing you of racism. All I am saying is this whole thing smacks of racism and I believe that some fans react harsher to black players than they do white. Confusing...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Confusing...???? Why? The whole Puncheon situation from the beginning of this season I think has racial undertones. However, I am not accusing everyone on this forum of being racist. Simple enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Why? The whole Puncheon situation from the beginning of this season I think has racial undertones. However, I am not accusing everyone on this forum of being racist. Simple enough? Based on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypie Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Why? The whole Puncheon situation from the beginning of this season I think has racial undertones. However, I am not accusing everyone on this forum of being racist. Simple enough? So there are racial undertones but nobody is being racist? Either man up or shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Based on what? The fact that people were very, very quick to jump on his back at the beginning of this Season, after having a very decent end to last Season. The fact that people have throughout the season said he is a cr@p footballer when that is blatantly not the case. The fact that people seem to be making up things he said in interviews to turn more people against him, when in fact he came out of it very well and quite complimentary. Does this not all seem a very extreme thing to do considering he played well on loan for a Premiership club, was destroying Championship teams when at Millwall and played well for us last Season? It seems to me that it is a case of any excuse to criticise him, not just as a footballer, but also as a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Think this whole thread is silly - old ground as to whether he was properly supported or not, radio interview think he dealt with pretty well - given chance/led to slag off saints and managed to say he understand different opinions and positive things about team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Nope Pulis was ****. As is Forecast. Puncheon is decent, but people decided to boo him cos he was black. As was Nathan Dyer, as was BWP, as is Guly. All had their boo boys. And David McGoldrick. I've booed Steve Baker (can never forgive him for that 88 debacle), I've booed Mick Mills (and joined in with the "Oh no, Mick Mills" chant - not overly proud of that one!!), I've booed John Bailey (opposition player, but he still got a good booing from me), I've jeered Branfoot, I've booed Mark Wright (when he was a ***** at the end of his time here). Personally, I think it's rather lazy, cheap and counter productive to try and introduce racist undertones to the debate of giving players stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 So there are racial undertones but nobody is being racist? Either man up or shut up. Shhh, men are talking. Learn to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Why? The whole Puncheon situation from the beginning of this season I think has racial undertones. However, I am not accusing everyone on this forum of being racist. Simple enough? It sounds to me like you're one of those fools who looks for a PC slant (ie some sort of anti-minority-ism) where there simply ain't one. I confidently believe that the absolute majority of Saints fans on this forum (and elsewhere) see footballers as footballers and arrogance as arrogance. Likewise staff at SFC. When they exist together, in someone wearing a Saints shirt, we don't like it and express that. Colour of his skin.......?..... pah - no relevance to the discussion. Imagination, dangerous and misguided imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I've booed Steve Baker (can never forgive him for that 88 debacle), I've booed Mick Mills (and joined in with the "Oh no, Mick Mills" chant - not overly proud of that one!!), I've booed John Bailey (opposition player, but he still got a good booing from me), I've jeered Branfoot, I've booed Mark Wright (when he was a ***** at the end of his time here). Personally, I think it's rather lazy, cheap and counter productive to try and introduce racist undertones to the debate of giving players stick. I love the fact that people are coming out with criticism about my point, yet at the same time are trying to distance themselves from any perceived racism by saying that they boo white players as well As said quite a few times, I am not accusing all of you of racism, mainly because without hard evidence (which to be fair I can't supply) that would be irresponsible and wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 It seems to me that it is a case of any excuse to criticise him, not just as a footballer, but also as a person. Two issues relating to Puncheon. The first is that some people didn't think he was actually that good or putting a decent shift in and had a go at him when he was playing for us (as people have had a pop at players of any race, colour or creed over they years e.g. Steve Baker, Lee Todd, Potter, Hughes). I personally thought Puncheon wasn't that bad, so wasn't in that group, but people pay their money and it's up to them. The second issue is his reaction and hissy fit (refusing to play, train etc) after having to make way for Chamberlain which got people's backs up (as did Mark Wright's behaviour towards the end of his stay here). More than happy to say that this is the reason behind my dislike of Puncheon. He's paid good money and should have been a pro, nit a disruptive and arrogant prima donna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 The fact that people were very, very quick to jump on his back at the beginning of this Season, after having a very decent end to last Season. The fact that people have throughout the season said he is a cr@p footballer when that is blatantly not the case. The fact that people seem to be making up things he said in interviews to turn more people against him, when in fact he came out of it very well and quite complimentary. Does this not all seem a very extreme thing to do considering he played well on loan for a Premiership club, was destroying Championship teams when at Millwall and played well for us last Season? It seems to me that it is a case of any excuse to criticise him, not just as a footballer, but also as a person. What about the fact that people considered Waigo and Antionio some sort of footballing god when they clearly aren't, they were desperate to sign them, when it was clear we never were going to. Even into the season people banged on about how much we missed them and as it turned out we didn't. Strange that for fans base which has racist elements in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I love the fact that people are coming out with criticism about my point, yet at the same time are trying to distance themselves from any perceived racism by saying that they boo white players as well As said quite a few times, I am not accusing all of you of racism, mainly because without hard evidence (which to be fair I can't supply) that would be irresponsible and wrong. You're not a copper or ex-copper are you? You're talking in the way they do - looking for conspiracy or imagined "crimes". But thats all they are - imagined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 It sounds to me like you're one of those fools who looks for a PC slant (ie some sort of anti-minority-ism) where there simply ain't one. I confidently believe that the absolute majority of Saints fans on this forum (and elsewhere) see footballers as footballers and arrogance as arrogance. Likewise staff at SFC. When they exist together, in someone wearing a Saints shirt, we don't like it and express that. Colour of his skin.......?..... pah - no relevance to the discussion. Imagination, dangerous and misguided imagination. And this may be the case. I may be misreading the situation. However, I sadly don't think I am. After the last time I brought this up (Puncheon, at the time, was having the temerity to play well for other teams), I had quite a few people PM me to say they believed there was something to what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Two issues relating to Puncheon. The first is that some people didn't think he was actually that good or putting a decent shift in and had a go at him when he was playing for us (as people have had a pop at players of any race, colour or creed over they years e.g. Steve Baker, Lee Todd, Potter, Hughes). I personally thought Puncheon wasn't that bad, so wasn't in that group, but people pay their money and it's up to them. The second issue is his reaction and hissy fit (refusing to play, train etc) after having to make way for Chamberlain which got people's backs up (as did Mark Wright's behaviour towards the end of his stay here). More than happy to say that this is the reason behind my dislike of Puncheon. He's paid good money and should have been a pro, nit a disruptive and arrogant prima donna. To be fair I didn't realise he went on strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I love the fact that people are coming out with criticism about my point, yet at the same time are trying to distance themselves from any perceived racism by saying that they boo white players as well I'm certainly not trotting out the line of "I'm not racist, one of my friends is Black" line, instead I'm merely pointing out that players over the years have been booed, jeered and given a hard time for their perceived lack of effort or skill on the pitch and their behaviour off of it, not due to the colour of their skin. I have witnessed much racist behaviour from crowds over the years, ranging from verbal abuse and chanting to throwing bananas, so am fully aware of the history of racism in the game, but IMHO I think it is disengenuous to attempt to link the criticising and booing of a player due to his perceived lack of effort/ability, and his hissy fit reaction to being dropped, with racist undertones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Nope Pulis was ****. As is Forecast. Puncheon is decent, but people decided to boo him cos he was black. As was Nathan Dyer, as was BWP, as is Guly. All had their boo boys. And David McGoldrick. People are booing Puncheon because he's a c()ck, It's got nothing to do with his skin colour. Oh, and Puncheon isn't Black, he's mixed-race. He has a White parent and a Black parent; he's as much "black" as he is "white". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 You're not a copper or ex-copper are you? You're talking in the way they do - looking for conspiracy or imagined "crimes". But thats all they are - imagined. Like he says, he has no evidence of what he is alledging, it's a very odd thing to come out with. To me it was quite obvious that fans percieved him to be lazy and didn't put a shift in and appeared to not want to be here, nothing to do with the colour of his skin. In the same way that fans loved Waigo and Antonio, because they worked hard, tried hard and appeared to enjoy being here. I dont think he really believes this, just trying to wind people up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 To be fair I didn't realise he went on strike. I don't think he went on strike, instead he may have started to develop a tweaked hamstring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I think a lot of Saints fans lost their patience with him when he turned up at ML's funeral in completely inappropriate clothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I don't think he went on strike, instead he may have started to develop a tweaked hamstring. Didn't he throw a hissy fit when told he was on the bench and refuse to travel with the team for an away game? Shortly after he went to either Blackpool or Millwall cant remember which one it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Didn't he throw a hissy fit when told he was on the bench and refuse to travel with the team for an away game? Shortly after he went to either Blackpool or Millwall cant remember which one it was. Tranmere away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 What about the fact that people considered Waigo and Antionio some sort of footballing god when they clearly aren't, they were desperate to sign them, when it was clear we never were going to. Even into the season people banged on about how much we missed them and as it turned out we didn't. Strange that for fans base which has racist elements in it. Agreed. And where have I said that the fanbase does not like black players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 People are booing Puncheon because he's a c()ck, It's got nothing to do with his skin colour. Oh, and Puncheon isn't Black, he's mixed-race. He has a White parent and a Black parent; he's as much "black" as he is "white". You know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Like he says, he has no evidence of what he is alledging, it's a very odd thing to come out with. To me it was quite obvious that fans percieved him to be lazy and didn't put a shift in and appeared to not want to be here, nothing to do with the colour of his skin. In the same way that fans loved Waigo and Antonio, because they worked hard, tried hard and appeared to enjoy being here. I dont think he really believes this, just trying to wind people up. And exactly the same way that I idolised Mark Wright in his years at Saints, but the minute he had his head turned by big money and was looking to move and his performances deteriorated, I looked upon him as a turncoat and was really upset and felt betrayed. Like others (inc someone from on here who ran on the pitch up the Dell and told him to get his shirt off) he then was subjected to a bit of booing and abuse. (then again I suppose someone might accuse me of being gingerist) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 You're not a copper or ex-copper are you? You're talking in the way they do - looking for conspiracy or imagined "crimes". But thats all they are - imagined. So are saying the police are a racist/corrupt organisation then, or are you saying that some policeman are racist/corrupt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Why? The whole Puncheon situation from the beginning of this season I think has racial undertones. However, I am not accusing everyone on this forum of being racist. Simple enough? Much simpler thanks. Had you said that in the first place, perhaps I would have understood your point. But to sum up, you believe that much of the stick that Jason recieves / recieved is racially motivated, and has been from the beginning of the season. But you don't believe that anybody has made any such racial remarks whilst commenting on this thread. Surely you have taken this thread off topic, perhaps you need to start a new topic about how Jason has been racially abused since the beginning of the season and yet nobody has seen fit to do anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Nope Pulis was ****. As is Forecast. Puncheon is decent, but people decided to boo him cos he was black. As was Nathan Dyer, as was BWP, as is Guly. All had their boo boys. And David McGoldrick. Agreed. And where have I said that the fanbase does not like black players. err, Here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 you only boo'ed Wright cos he is ginger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Like he says, he has no evidence of what he is alledging, it's a very odd thing to come out with. To me it was quite obvious that fans percieved him to be lazy and didn't put a shift in and appeared to not want to be here, nothing to do with the colour of his skin. In the same way that fans loved Waigo and Antonio, because they worked hard, tried hard and appeared to enjoy being here. I dont think he really believes this, just trying to wind people up. No, I do genuinly believe that some fans are racist, and as such will go out of their way to criticise black players. Is this was a wind up I wouldn't be anywhere near as diplomatic as I am being. Let's try this one then. What was the reason for the original post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I think a lot of Saints fans lost their patience with him when he turned up at ML's funeral in completely inappropriate clothing. But why? We were 4 games into the Season. He could have been carrying an injury for the first 4 games which limited him. Why didn't people give him the benefit of the doubt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Much simpler thanks. Had you said that in the first place, perhaps I would have understood your point. But to sum up, you believe that much of the stick that Jason recieves / recieved is racially motivated, and has been from the beginning of the season. But you don't believe that anybody has made any such racial remarks whilst commenting on this thread. Surely you have taken this thread off topic, perhaps you need to start a new topic about how Jason has been racially abused since the beginning of the season and yet nobody has seen fit to do anything about it. Why off topic, it's still about JP isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 No, I do genuinly believe that some fans are racist, and as such will go out of their way to criticise black players. Is this was a wind up I wouldn't be anywhere near as diplomatic as I am being. Let's try this one then. What was the reason for the original post? Somebody giving thier opinion / interpretation of Jasons comments on TalkSport. FWIW, I totally disagree with the OP's opinion and interpretation, but I can't say that I find it racist or see any reason to think that it was posted because of a racist attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 No, I do genuinly believe that some fans are racist, and as such will go out of their way to criticise black players. Is this was a wind up I wouldn't be anywhere near as diplomatic as I am being. And I'm sure a very small minority of fans are racist and ignorant and that is the basis of their booing of Puncheon. It would not be realistic to suggest we are immune to the bigotry and ignorance of racism, but IMHO the overwhelming majority are doing it in the same way that they have booed and berated players over the years, regardless of race, colour or creed. Let's try this one then. What was the reason for the original post? I would imagine that in the same way that Mark Wright became a figure of hate for some due to his attitude and disrespectful behaviour that Puncheon is now suffering the wrath of the spurned football supporter and so any opportunity to have a pop is worth having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 So are saying the police are a racist/corrupt organisation then, or are you saying that some policeman are racist/corrupt? I am saying exactly what I wrote..... that there are people (and many Policemen examples of this) with a vivid imagination about conspiracies and undertones. We are supposed to have Freedom of Speech in this country - yet the "vivid imagination bunch" are turning this right around and putting people on guard about what they DON'T say as much as what they DO say. Your "racist undertones" question is a classic example. Like I said before - its all imagination, but dangerous and misguided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 err, Here. I've not said the whole fanbase doesn't like black players though have I? Either way, as said it is hard to prove that some of the fanbase are racist. However, would you be surprised if some of the people who go to St Mary's have decided they don't like him because he is black, whether they have shouted racist remarks, or just booed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Somebody giving thier opinion / interpretation of Jasons comments on TalkSport. FWIW, I totally disagree with the OP's opinion and interpretation, but I can't say that I find it racist or see any reason to think that it was posted because of a racist attitude. It's an incredibly strange interpretation to make if you listen to it though, is it not? Almost completely non-sensical considering that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 (edited) And I'm sure a very small minority of fans are racist and ignorant and that is the basis of their booing of Puncheon. It would not be realistic to suggest we are immune to the bigotry and ignorance of racism, but IMHO the overwhelming majority are doing it in the same way that they have booed and berated players over the years, regardless of race, colour or creed. Perhaps the other people are just sheep who have copied the racists, but don't realise that this is the reason for the booing? I don't know. Edited 24 May, 2011 by Dibden Purlieu Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Like others (inc someone from on here who ran on the pitch up the Dell and told him to get his shirt off) he then was subjected to a bit of booing and abuse. Ha ha forgot about that. Actually I think he offered him his coat as Wright had decided he didn't want to play and wasn't running at all....our thoughtful Sainst fan just didn't want him to get cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Saints fans preferring Chamberlain to play instead of Puncheon on the wing are racist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I am saying exactly what I wrote..... that there are people (and many Policemen examples of this) with a vivid imagination about conspiracies and undertones. We are supposed to have Freedom of Speech in this country - yet the "vivid imagination bunch" are turning this right around and putting people on guard about what they DON'T say as much as what they DO say. Your "racist undertones" question is a classic example. Like I said before - its all imagination, but dangerous and misguided. Perhaps I am wrong on this one, I agree, but personally it has been something I have noticed over the years. People like McGoldrick, Dyer, BWP, K Jones, Best, Puncheon. All of them were seen as having bad attitudes. I just wonder whether they actually did, or whether it was an over-reaction due to aforementioned racism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Saints fans preferring Chamberlain to play instead of Puncheon on the wing are racist? Yep, that's exactly the point I am making. Thanks for your valuable input into this debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Adkins should have known Blackpool would send him back. He should have had the locks changed on the doors to the building so that Puncheon couldn't get another ticket for the bus. There could have been a squad place available for him at SFC but he wouldn't have been in the first choice 11 on ability. But as people have said, his attitude was always wrong. Confirmed for many people by the way he dressed and conducted himself at the Memorial Service to Marcus. Getting rid of him asap may be more important than the fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I would imagine that in the same way that Mark Wright became a figure of hate for some due to his attitude and disrespectful behaviour that Puncheon is now suffering the wrath of the spurned football supporter and so any opportunity to have a pop is worth having. That doesn't really fit in with your racist theory. Look you are all over the place with this stupid theory. From your user name, you quite obviously went to noadswood and not Applemore. For what it is worth people like you do more harm than good in terms of racial harmony and continued suggestions and connotations of rasicm are completely self defeating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 (edited) Saints fans preferring Chamberlain to play instead of Puncheon on the wing are racist? Yep, that's exactly the point I am making. Thanks for your valuable input into this debate. It isn't racism then, is it? They wanted the better player to be playing. In any case, there is no such thing a "race". The Human Genome Project has determined unequivocally that there is the same amount of genetic variation among individuals within a so called racial group as there is between individuals in different racial groups. What that means is that there is no real genetic difference between blacks and whites or between whites and Asians or between any of the so called races. We are just human... Edited 24 May, 2011 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 It's an incredibly strange interpretation to make if you listen to it though, is it not? Almost completely non-sensical considering that. On this DPS, I agree. I don't mind admitting that I made my first post on this thread without the benefit of listening to the the interview. Having listened to it, I really do not see what JP said to cause any offence. He is a sportsman trying to do the best that he can to secure a contract somewhere - he was complimentary of Saints. The 'prove somebody wrong' comment was actually started by the interviewer - Jason agreed, but never laboured the point or hinted at anybody in particular. When I watched him against United on Sunday I thought he had an ok game, not great, not bad. Like many others, I was hoping he would have a blinder, which might allow us to 'hike the price' if he does go. Others have suggested that there is an 'attitude' problem, and if that is the case then I would rather cash in now and let him go. However, all of that said - I still cannot see how the OP's (misguided) opinion, or any others here have got you going on about the racism angle. As I said before, if that is your opinion perhaps you should have aired your concerns halfway through the season, so people could guage whether you had a point whilst at subsequent games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 That doesn't really fit in with your racist theory. Look you are all over the place with this stupid theory. From your user name, you quite obviously went to noadswood and not Applemore. For what it is worth people like you do more harm than good in terms of racial harmony and continued suggestions and connotations of rasicm are completely self defeating. That wasn't me who wrote that, it was left on when editing one of UM's replies. I have removed it now. What difference does it matter whether I went to Noadswood or Applemore or King Edwards or Hardley?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I think he is a good player the 1st season he was with us he did well fair enough he had a few dodgy games this season however he always showed for the ball even when he wasnt playing well he is defo good enough for the Championship not sur about the prem. It seems it is his attitude that is wrong so for that reason alone lets cash in he dosent want to be a Saint so lets get as much dosh as poss but on Football ability he would have been worth having. It is not worth having players at our club that are not on Nigels Bus shame his attitude is p1ss poor but hey ho onwards & upwards lets get someone in with better ability & better attitude then we will all be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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