steadyeddie Posted 23 May, 2011 Share Posted 23 May, 2011 Bad Apple. Dont need him. Get rid when a good enough offer comes in. Until then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 23 May, 2011 Share Posted 23 May, 2011 Should go like this Fine 2weeks wages. Call back early for training, If he fails to turn up fine another 2weeks wages Make him train with the kids Drag out his transfer till the last minute so it takes him a while to bed in at new club. Oh don't worry, Cortese is no mug and will see to screwing him over a little i'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 23 May, 2011 Share Posted 23 May, 2011 Playing Devil's advocate, does anyone else recall Puncheon's attitude to us changing at about the same time he was booed, coincidence and a lesson for us as supporters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 23 May, 2011 Share Posted 23 May, 2011 (edited) Seemed devoid of ideas and confidence yesterday. Barely ran at the defence and his pass completion rate must have been appalling. The chap that replaced him caused United more problems in fifteen minutes than Puncheon had in the previous 75. I was actually disappointed that he hadn't done much when in the shop window. Obviously has talent, unfortunately an even bigger ego and pretty flakey to go with it. Am I right in saying that he was getting stick for bad performances at SMS before his fall out with Adkins? I seem to remember some fans saying this was the case. If so, it's hardly surprising he's giving us some stick. Spot on - apart from his involvement in the goal, thought he had a poor game yesterday. Shame because while I think the guy has a sh*t attitude, I wanted him to do well so we can make some decent money. Yesterday, didnt seem to have same amount of time on the ball that others had -a mark of quality- and looked scared to use it when he was in possession. Did track back, though. Edited 23 May, 2011 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whizzpop Posted 23 May, 2011 Share Posted 23 May, 2011 its probably no coinsidence that Blackpool's season took a downturn when he arrived and Saints turned around for the better. He clearly is a twerp. x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypie Posted 23 May, 2011 Share Posted 23 May, 2011 Playing Devil's advocate, does anyone else recall Puncheon's attitude to us changing at about the same time he was booed, coincidence and a lesson for us as supporters? With respect, if i see a dog sh1t on my lawn i dont sit back and think "i wont shout at it because it might sh1t on my lawn". I have never boo'd any saints player but i have shouted at a lot of dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergie Posted 23 May, 2011 Share Posted 23 May, 2011 didn't get in the team ahead of Lallana and Oxo...was surplus to requirements at a L1 club...not quite sure why he has a big ego because this is fact! Lallana and oxo are better, fact, so 0 1 2 1 do one and get us a mil or so to spend on someone who would value being in a squad with fantastic fans, facilities, prospects and vision. Thanks for a few goals but the money we spent on your wages really does make me sad!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 23 May, 2011 Share Posted 23 May, 2011 (edited) http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/listen-again/episode/32746 1800-1830 about 38mins in was about to join the moaning but listened to link... 'football is based on opinion so you have got to take it on the chin, love players / dressing room at southampton' few leading questions but can't see what he said wrong. Edited 24 May, 2011 by NickG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockland Dave Posted 23 May, 2011 Share Posted 23 May, 2011 I can't believe we all listened to the same interview. The bloke said nothing wrong about us. I have never understood the hatred some of our fans have over JP. He played well for us under AP, struggled under NA, crowd got on his back, manager didn't fancy him, has since been loaned to a Millwall and Blackpool and did well at both. most of the posters on this thread seem unable to think for themselves, please relisten to the interview, an honestly tell me where he said anything derogatory Saints related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 May, 2011 Share Posted 23 May, 2011 Are we paying his wages again now? Assume his loan ended at the weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Get rid of him. But for max fee. No point in losing a few hundred grand by making him play reserve football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northant Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 All abord the hating Puncheon bandwagon! Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Just listened to the interview, he didn't say a lot wrong tbh. He's not going to come out and say that he thinks Crosby is a c*nt though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I can't believe we all listened to the same interview. The bloke said nothing wrong about us. I have never understood the hatred some of our fans have over JP. He played well for us under AP, struggled under NA, crowd got on his back, manager didn't fancy him, has since been loaned to a Millwall and Blackpool and did well at both. most of the posters on this thread seem unable to think for themselves, please relisten to the interview, an honestly tell me where he said anything derogatory Saints related I don't think people did listen to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Should go like this Fine 2weeks wages. Call back early for training, If he fails to turn up fine another 2weeks wages Make him train with the kids Drag out his transfer till the last minute so it takes him a while to bed in at new club. This. Need to make sure with the last 2 points that he doesnt have a bad influence on those around him though. Reckon he should be made to train alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Puncheon was just on talksport. Sounded like an absolute ****! Basically saying he was too good for saints and has proved Adkins wrong. Wants to play in the prem but obviously isn't going to happen with saints. The way he said it was like a dig. I hope a big prem club buys him then we'll see how good he really is! He wouldn't last 5 mins at a club like Newcastle or Everton, just get lost in the reserves. At the end of the day he wasn't even a regular starter for a poor Blackpool! ****! http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/listen-again/episode/32746 1800-1830 about 38mins in suggest anyone new to thread has a listen, he doesn't say the things in first post! The interviewing says you have proved people wrong for example, and he says football is all about opinions and you have to take it on the chin! Clearly doesn't fit in, and we are going to get rid but nothing wrong with his interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I listened to the interview and if you read between the lines he basically confessed to the Lockerbie bombing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I listened to the interview and if you read between the lines he basically confessed to the Lockerbie bombing. I must admit I hate people who can't read between the lines lol!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I must admit I hate people who can't read between the lines lol!!! Me too. Can't belief no one's spotted the bit about him being a eunuch yet. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 He's better than Chamberlain. That said, Chamberlain will be ALOT Better than him. Last time I said this, it was as if I had blasphemed!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 What a complete overreaction on this thread after having listened to it. Seriously, LISTEN to the interview! He said himself that people in football have different opinions, but he also went on to say that he "loved the dressing room and the players". For whatever reason, his face doesn't fit at the club with management. It's a shame but at the end of the day I have 100% faith in NA and NC that they will do what is best for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketphilly Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I wouldn't have thought he's worth getting rattled about. He will not train with the team again and be gone for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I, unlike most mongs, actually listened to the Interview. Not one bad word said about saints. Agreed. Think he actually comes across quite well. Seems pretty sure he's not coming back here, but then i'm sure he's also been made aware by Adkins that he's not needed. I hope he goes on to do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I concur with all the other posts - actually listen to what he said! He doesn't say anything wrong, soundbiteville... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 his attitude seemed to stink while he was here but i thought he was a good player and proved hes a top championship player by playing well in the premiership in a few games but i feel chambo is going to be better and lallana is also better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Bald_Si Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Also just listened to the interview - agree that he said nothing wrong - merely just said he would like to stay in the Premiership. Not a bad word about Saints, if anything, he was complimentary. Clearly, something's not worked out for him here - and that's fine, hope we get maximum money for him and hope he goes on to do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/7709/5/exclusive-puncheon-blackpool-must-keep-hold-holloway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Just listened to it... didn't think he said anything too controversial other than hinting at he got a bit of stick when he played here - which was true? Does that mean that a lot of people are commenting on here without having listened to the interview. I simply cannot believe it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 As I've said before on this forum, people are always ready to slag off the non-white guy without giving him a chance. It's a sad depiction of our society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Pulis was black!? never knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 JUst out of interest, how many of you still think Antonio is better than Puncheon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 As I've said before on this forum, people are always ready to slag off the non-white guy without giving him a chance. It's a sad depiction of our society. Absolute complete and utter ******. The sad depiction of our society is people creating racial tension or agendas where they really don't exist..... trying their hardest to squeeze the race card in at all costs. Pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 As I've said before on this forum, people are always ready to slag off the non-white guy without giving him a chance. It's a sad depiction of our society. Hammond, Chaplow, Davis, Harding and Lambert have come in for some stick this season, what's the reason for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Absolute complete and utter ******. The sad depiction of our society is people creating racial tension or agendas where they really don't exist..... trying their hardest to squeeze the race card in at all costs. Pathetic This. DPS has some sort of bizarre agenda to drive as he has mention this several times this season, very odd i must say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 He has a big arse and he runs in a funny way. Cheap shot but I feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 As I've said before on this forum, people are always ready to slag off the non-white guy without giving him a chance. It's a sad depiction of our society. Ohhhh no, no, no, no , no, no, nooooooooo..... Absolute complete and utter ******. The sad depiction of our society is people creating racial tension or agendas where they really don't exist..... trying their hardest to squeeze the race card in at all costs. Pathetic ...yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 As I've said before on this forum, people are always ready to slag off the non-white guy without giving him a chance. It's a sad depiction of our society. Yeah, I've never been entirely comfortable with the frequency with which labels such as 'lazy', 'unreliable', 'arrogant', 'bad attitude' get hung around the necks of non-white players. There's too long a history of this kind of insidious (albeit in places perhaps unthinking) stereotyping for it to be allowed to pass entirely unacknowledged. Not saying it's necessarily the case here, but I believe it is unavoidably the case that you have to think doubly hard before throwing those kind of terms around if you don't want to just end up contributing to the reinforcement of an entirely pernicious history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Too good to play regularly for a promotion chasing team in League 1 on the way to the CCC on form, but perfectly good enough to warm the bench and occasionally start for a poor 'Premiership team' (laughing as I say that) on bad form, fighting relegation on the way to the CCC. End result, failure and playing in the CCC, as opposed to success and playing in the CCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 (edited) Pulis was black!? never knew that. Nope Pulis was ****. As is Forecast. Puncheon is decent, but people decided to boo him cos he was black. As was Nathan Dyer, as was BWP, as is Guly. All had their boo boys. And David McGoldrick. Edited 24 May, 2011 by Dibden Purlieu Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 (edited) Hammond, Chaplow, Davis, Harding and Lambert have come in for some stick this season, what's the reason for this? Have they been booed? I'd say not. At the end of last season Puncheon, although people thought he was ****, was racking up the goals and assists. People then decided to turn on him. When Rickie Lambert was off form, people tried to encourage him, not boo him. Why was that any different? Edited 24 May, 2011 by Dibden Purlieu Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 JUst out of interest, how many of you still think Antonio is better than Puncheon? I'd like Antonio back on the basis that he had (to me at least) the potential to be much better than Puncheon. I reckon Puncheon has got about as good as he is going to get, Antonio is still young and only two seasons out of non-league and looked like he had bags of potential even if he is not as polished as Puncheon yet. If nothing else Antonio's kick and sprinit style was very exciting to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Nope Pulis was ****. As is Forecast. Puncheon is decent, but people decided to boo him cos he was black. As was Nathan Dyer, as was BWP, as is Guly. All had their boo boys. Either you are on a wind up or are f*cking mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Nope Pulis was ****. As is Forecast. Puncheon is decent, but people decided to boo him cos he was black. As was Nathan Dyer, as was BWP, as is Guly. All had their boo boys. Oxo is black, as was Theo and everyone lurves them. BWP and Dyer robbed some poor girl in a nightclub they deserve whatever boos they got. Jones was black and popular and Wright despite putting his all into every performance was often booed. I'm not saying there aren't idiots who would willingly boo black players just that they're in the minority, (at Saints anyway.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Have they been booed? I'd say not. I dont recall Puncheon or Guly being booed either, given stick but not booed. The only player who has been this season was N'Gessen and that was because he was awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 (edited) Yeah, I've never been entirely comfortable with the frequency with which labels such as 'lazy', 'unreliable', 'arrogant', 'bad attitude' get hung around the necks of non-white players. There's too long a history of this kind of insidious (albeit in places perhaps unthinking) stereotyping for it to be allowed to pass entirely unacknowledged. Not saying it's necessarily the case here, but I believe it is unavoidably the case that you have to think doubly hard before throwing those kind of terms around if you don't want to just end up contributing to the reinforcement of an entirely pernicious history. Errr sorry - but once again, no. The only colour I see when I watch Saints is Red and White - I don't see the colour of the players skins, I see the shirt - it's that simple. And yes, I do sometimes label them 'lazy', 'unreliable', 'arrogant' - sometimes even worse, but I do so because the game they play is an emotive one - and they, when they wear the 'Red and White' represent me, the fan. So yes there are some real lazy, unreliable, arrogant players who are black, and they will be told as much by the crowd, as will the white, yellow, brown, blue and orange players. You seem to imply that there are racial overtones here, sorry, but as I said before, I (and I suspect most other fans) see shirt colours when I watch football - not skin tones. Edited 24 May, 2011 by Micky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Why are people getting so angry about this. I am not accusing you of racism. All I am saying is this whole thing smacks of racism and I believe that some fans react harsher to black players than they do white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Nope Pulis was ****. As is Forecast. Puncheon is decent, but people decided to boo him cos he was black. As was Nathan Dyer, as was BWP, as is Guly. All had their boo boys. And David McGoldrick. Were you at a game when any of this happened? Did you either confront the individuals or report it? I'm guessing a "no" to at least the second question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I didn't hear a lot wrong in that interview, I thought Puncheon was brilliant for us Jan-May 2010 and totally wretched for us Aug-Oct 2010 but clearly he doesn't fit in with the management's direction of travel and ethos for whatever reason so its best that he is allowed to move on and we'll use that money towards a new centre half or forward. I don't wish the guy ill and as long as he doesn't score against us I wish him all the best wherever he goes, probably to a fellow NPC club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I dont recall Puncheon or Guly being booed either, given stick but not booed. The only player who has been this season was N'Gessen and that was because he was awful. Not saying Guly was booed, but that Taxi thread said a lot of things to me. Puncheon was booed earlier this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I think JP answered the leading questions very well - All players don't connect with all managers , Maybe NA was trying to motivate him through a lack of form using OXO and he couldn't cope with the fact . Nothing derogatory in that interview what so ever, I think some people really do need to get a life - just because someone indicates their desire to move job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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