Matthew Le God Posted 22 May, 2011 Share Posted 22 May, 2011 So why did the US Military say they had recovered a 'flying disc' in 1947 only to retract it and claim that it was a weather balloon? What of the Chicago O'Hare UFO sightings? What of the Jerusalem sightings? I'm not sure either whether 5 people at the same time could all fall mentally ill, either: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton I didn't say "mentally ill" was the only explanation. It was one of many I listed and they may be in combination with each other or alone. Is describing something as a "weather balloon" really much of a change to describing it as a "flying disc"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityRanger Posted 22 May, 2011 Share Posted 22 May, 2011 (edited) There is a clue. It is not unheard of for 12 year old boys to daydream. Plus you admit it was many years later you saw the photos, memories distort over time, especially if it was just the wandering mind of a 12 year old boy. I'm not accusing you of lying, I'm sure you genuinely believe this is what you saw, but that doesn't make it true. It was vivid. It was the only time in my life I "saw" something like that. I was not prone to daydreams. Strange I know, but it stuck in my head for years ahead of many other things because of how strange it felt at the time. I'm not an attention seeker and don't have a mental illness either as far as I know! Edited 22 May, 2011 by CityRanger quoted twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 22 May, 2011 Share Posted 22 May, 2011 Can you show me any independent reputable scientific study proving a paranormal activity? I will have a look, but I doubt there is any; science only deals in things that it can count, weigh and measure. Besides, where are the independent reputable scientific studies to prove that what people have experienced is rubbish? You might be able to justify some of the billions of accounts but for many, science has no answer or at least, no explanation. Can you describe the shared event? Personally, I'd rather not talk about it. Maybe tomorrow when I've a bit more time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 22 May, 2011 Share Posted 22 May, 2011 I didn't say "mentally ill" was the only explanation. It was one of many I listed and they may be in combination with each other or alone. Is describing something as a "weather balloon" really much of a change to describing it as a "flying disc"? I'd say it is, considering size, dynamics, shape, materials.. and I'd also ask why did the US AAF claim it was not of this worldly origin, then retracting it? What happened at Rendelsham in the 1980's, too? Were several american military officials all lying or jointly hallucinating? What of Dr Roger Leir who removes implants of an indistinguishable origin from 'abductees'? When examined, why have the implants closest match been to that of a meteorite? And what is this? Flares? CGI? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u59aZjSVubc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 May, 2011 Share Posted 22 May, 2011 (edited) It was vivid. It was the only time in my life I "saw" something like that. I was not prone to daydreams. Strange I know, but it stuck in my head for years ahead of many other things because of how strange it felt at the time. I'm not an attention seeker and don't have a mental illness either as far as I know! This is an event that occurred in 1985 to you as a child. That is quite some time ago! Human memory is far from perfect and tends to garnish real events with things that didn't happen. I'm not saying you are lying. Edited 22 May, 2011 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 May, 2011 Share Posted 22 May, 2011 (edited) I'd say it is, considering size, dynamics, shape, materials.. and I'd also ask why did the US AAF claim it was not of this worldly origin, then retracting it? This is 60 years ago remember. Do you have a source with the original US AAF claim? And what is this? Flares? CGI? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u59aZjSVubc It could be any number of things. No not flares, but why have you decided UFO's is more likely than someone trying to trick the world with a simple video trick either with mirror/lenses or as you say CGI, remote control helicopter with lights on etc etc? Why are you so confident to rule them out? Are these not more likely to happen than a UFO? FWIW I think there are aliens somewhere in the universe due to the sheer size of the universe meaning the chances are that life was able to develop elsewhere. However these are so far away I do not think they have ever reached earth. They certainly wouldn't bother abducting countless hillbillies in the American mid west. Edited 22 May, 2011 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 22 May, 2011 Share Posted 22 May, 2011 Good video. All supernatural beliefs are unfounded and wrong and I'm not going to say IMO because it's not just me, it's everyone. Think you've seen a ghost? You're either wrong or mistaken because there's no such thing. If you ever see one you'll change your mind sharpish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 22 May, 2011 Share Posted 22 May, 2011 This is 60 years ago remember. Yes, but that's not an explanation, is it? It could be any number of things. No not flares, but why have you decided UFO's is more likely than someone trying to trick the world with a simple video trick either with mirror/lenses or as you say CGI? Remote control helicopter with lights on etc etc. Why are you so confident to rule them out? Are these not more likely to happen than a UFO? I'm quick to rule out because it clearly doesn't share any of the characteristics of anything you've just said, let alone the standard explanations given for this phenomena. It's not a remote control helicopter. For a start, it's too high. It's not a flare, as it moves intelligently. What else could it be? FWIW I think there are aliens somewhere in the universe due to the sheer size of the universe meaning the chances are that life was able to develop elsewhere. However these are so far away I do not think they have ever reached earth. They certainly wouldn't bother abducting countless hillbillies in the American mid west. Excellent, we can agree on something! However, what if they're not from another planet? Howabout another dimension on this planet, hence their infrequent appearances here? Anyway, assuming they are abducting us, does it not draw parallels with our own studies in other creatures/animals? I mean, they can't deduce that it's a hillbilly (not the best example of our 'intelligent' life) - but they can identify that it is a human... Isn't that what we do, in a way? If we don't understand it, don't we simply 'abduct' it from it's natural environment and run tests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 May, 2011 Share Posted 23 May, 2011 (edited) Yes, but that's not an explanation, is it? Do you have a source with the original US AAF claim and the amendment? I'm quick to rule out because it clearly doesn't share any of the characteristics of anything you've just said, let alone the standard explanations given for this phenomena. It's not a remote control helicopter. For a start, it's too high. It's not a flare, as it moves intelligently. What else could it be? It doesn't look that high, my remote control helicopter can get to quite a height. Plus the movement looks similar to that with which you can do with a RC helicopter. Some hoaxers have been proven to go to quite some lengths. Stick a light on a few of these (electric ones to avoid the smoke) and fly in formation... [video=youtube;PTifPpSHQ-8] And hey presto, you have fooled some people on youtube. Edited 23 May, 2011 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 May, 2011 Share Posted 23 May, 2011 You have to ask which is more likely... a) a bunch of mates decide to fool people on youtube with some toy helicopters and lights or video editing software or camera trickery with mirrors and lenses or b) aliens fly across the universe to Hawaii, fly around in the sky for a bit and then disappear ??? It takes quite a leap to think b) is more likely than a) !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Maybe it is worth looking at this web site - they seem to be on the look out for such Ghostly going on's with public events even holding an event at Southampton's Tudor House on halloween http://www.hauntedsouthampton.com Paranormal Investigations on a local level !!!! Boo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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