norwaysaint Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 Just remember, this isn't about prisons, these are for holding people who haven't actually been convicted of the crime. In other words many of them could be completely innocent. Mental. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13457576 What do they expect these people to be like when they leave? No wonder the USA has huge problems with crime. I don't know how other systems in other countries compare, but that is clearly counter-productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint sfc Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 Let the bass kick in Miami b*tch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 It paints as much a disturbing and as it does a humorous picture but the overiding emotion is - WTF, look forward to the programme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 The thing is, a lot of those people won't be coming out. They are either in for life, or they'll be convicted of further crimes while they're inside so that they'll die in prison, or they'll be killed, or get AIDS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 who gives a fook...they are scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 I think there is a miniscule chance of a few innocents being locked up in there, but the majority of them have done something very, very bad. We aren't talking about nicking a bike or perverting the cause of justice here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 21 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 21 May, 2011 The thing is, a lot of those people won't be coming out. They are either in for life, or they'll be convicted of further crimes while they're inside so that they'll die in prison, or they'll be killed, or get AIDS. They haven't been convicted of anything yet. who gives a fook...they are scum. They're awaiting trial, many of them will be found innocent. I think there is a miniscule chance of a few innocents being locked up in there, but the majority of them have done something very, very bad. We aren't talking about nicking a bike or perverting the cause of justice here. You do realise these people haven't been found guilty of anything, don't you? They are awaiting trial. Some of them will be found guilty, others were probably in the wrong place at the wrong time and will be released. As for having done "something very, very bad"... he'd been arrested for driving with a suspended licence. It's a wrong thing to do, of course, but not really "very, very bad." If you would be happy to be locked up in a place like that for something similar, without trial, fair enough. I think you three need to actually read the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 22 May, 2011 Share Posted 22 May, 2011 This prison is depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug187 Posted 23 May, 2011 Share Posted 23 May, 2011 They haven't been convicted of anything yet. They're awaiting trial, many of them will be found innocent. You do realise these people haven't been found guilty of anything, don't you? They are awaiting trial. Some of them will be found guilty, others were probably in the wrong place at the wrong time and will be released. As for having done "something very, very bad"... It's a wrong thing to do, of course, but not really "very, very bad." If you would be happy to be locked up in a place like that for something similar, without trial, fair enough. I think you three need to actually read the article. Agreed. I think some people would bring back the bloody gallows if given half the chance. Guilty until proven innocent?? It's totally ****ed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 23 May, 2011 Share Posted 23 May, 2011 I think you three need to actually read the article. I read the article and recognised the slant that the BBC has given it. You need to learn to read between the lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 23 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 23 May, 2011 I read the article and recognised the slant that the BBC has given it. You need to learn to read between the lines. Once again, the point is that it's a holding place for people awaiting trial. That's not a BBC slant. Your first comment showed that you didn't understand this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 23 May, 2011 Share Posted 23 May, 2011 Once again, the point is that it's a holding place for people awaiting trial. That's not a BBC slant. Your first comment showed that you didn't understand this. Fair enough, although I don't think this matters much. They will still be guilty, pretty much the lot of them. I am not pre judging, this is statistically just the way it is. I'm not a 'bring back the gallows' type, but there are plenty of people all over the world who are imprisoned in far worse conditions for far less serious crimes. I will save my outrage for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 23 May, 2011 Share Posted 23 May, 2011 Fair enough, although I don't think this matters much. They will still be guilty, pretty much the lot of them. I am not pre judging, this is statistically just the way it is. I'm not a 'bring back the gallows' type, but there are plenty of people all over the world who are imprisoned in far worse conditions for far less serious crimes. I will save my outrage for them. Please quote the source of your statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 23 May, 2011 Share Posted 23 May, 2011 Please quote the source of your statistics. CSI Miami. They're guilty every week. So there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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