dune Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 So long as they don't come over here? I have no problem with people coming here and paying their way. It's the spongers (including British spongers) that I despise with a passion. Wouldn't you agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 That's right, he's a real cultural ambassador. there was nothing racist in that and I didn't intend there to be either. Jeez, i'm really pleased with the signing and welcome him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 my left foot has experienced more culture around the world than you have you don't know sh i t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 you don't know sh i t go on..do tell us...laughing boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Interestingly it appears that since the conviction the Police have received more information about the case. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16413433 So is this a member of the public that has grown a pair of balls, or has one of the killers decided that he doesn't want to share a cell with 'people of colour' for the next 15 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Sorry mate, you're in the wrong place if you think did they right thing back then. The forum superstars on the lounge hate the Mail and all that it stands for. It's racist, evil, even been called the daily racist by some on here. Surely no one on this forum who hates the paper so passionately, believing it to be full of lies, racism and bigotary would support the mail running this story? That would be hypocritical wouldn't it? The Mail is the best paper around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Gabriel's Halo Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Should be interesting to see how long those two scumbags last inside. Is there not a very high percentage of black people in prison ? Some of them may be out to make a name for themselves by wanting to wreak vengance upon them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 (edited) Interestingly it appears that since the conviction the Police have received more information about the case. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16413433 So is this a member of the public that has grown a pair of balls, or has one of the killers decided that he doesn't want to share a cell with 'people of colour' for the next 15 years? They've already said they were given the opportunity to tell the Police what happened in return for a possible shorter sentance after conviction. If they come clean it won't effect their current sentence. I'd say it's probably the public radio 5 said one of the others had recently left his long term girlfriend for someone else. Hell have no fury on a woman scorned. Edited 4 January, 2012 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Turkish defending a racist. I'm so shocked....... In any case I said that this thread AND countless others show Dune to be a racist. You follow? I am not defending Dune, he is more than capable of taking care of himself. Simply stating a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Interestingly it appears that since the conviction the Police have received more information about the case. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16413433 So is this a member of the public that has grown a pair of balls, or has one of the killers decided that he doesn't want to share a cell with 'people of colour' for the next 15 years? Wasn't the father of one of them a notorious gangland drug dealer? I wonder if some people who knew stuff were frightened of the consequences of giving information whilst the two of them were outside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Wasn't the father of one of them a notorious gangland drug dealer? I wonder if some people who knew stuff were frightened of the consequences of giving information whilst the two of them were outside? He was a drug importer, he wouldn't be doing the dealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 The Mail is the best paper around.oh dear someone on the forum who likes the hate rag for muppets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Wasn't the father of one of them a notorious gangland drug dealer? I wonder if some people who knew stuff were frightened of the consequences of giving information whilst the two of them were outside?yes norris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Wasn't the father of one of them a notorious gangland drug dealer? I wonder if some people who knew stuff were frightened of the consequences of giving information whilst the two of them were outside? Yes he was bridge too far, Martin Bashir on Newsnight said that his father was a 'gangland' figure. Bashir, who interviewed one of the suspected 5 (can't remember which one), also suggested that it was possible that his father had contacts in the force and that he used those contacts in the first two weeks to help his son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 it was possible that his father had contacts in the force and that he used those contacts in the first two weeks to help his son. Good god, what utter nonsense. Yes mistakes were made, but this conspiracy theory is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 oh dear someone on the forum who likes the hate rag for muppets whoosh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Wow, does that old dude just shown on BBC news post on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Wow, does that old dude just shown on BBC news post on here? Yes I thiink our resident racist well known to all us on this forum Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Wow, does that old dude just shown on BBC news post on here? What what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 What what? Some report on race relations in SE London and views on the convictions....some old guy felt the need to tell us that they had been "stiched up" because "some ni**** got done over". Charming. Luckily I wasn't being serious with my post above, I'm not sure anyone normal particularly thinks like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Some report on race relations in SE London and views on the convictions....some old guy felt the need to tell us that they had been "stiched up" because "some ni**** got done over". Charming. Luckily I wasn't being serious with my post above, I'm not sure anyone normal particularly thinks like that. That was uncalled for. I'm of the view that we have let too many foreigners into this country - that's a perfectly reasonable opinion. His wasn't - murder is murder. That said I do think the case against the two convicted is weak and could well be overturned on appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 you should come to terms with the convictions of say......guilty terrorists that the scots let free to go running to libya...he is still guilty you know..... WTF are you on about? Besides, this is a thread about the murderers of Stephen Lawrence - not Megrahi, nor, luckily for you, those, like you, who advocate violence against women. It's worth pointing out to those outside the capital that these convictions have a significance for Londoners especially, that goes beyond the events at the Old Bailey yesterday and today. The criminal gangs that terrorised communities were actually fostered to some degree by an incompetent, corrupt and occasionally violent Metropolitan police (The hacking scandal is just the latest to hit a profoundly dysfunctional and criminally infused police force). In other words, the very authorities that were supposed to protect Londoners made them more vulnerable - taking bribes from violent thugs like Clifford Norris and obstructing inquiries, victims and witnesses that came into contact with them. The Lawrence case highlighted the corruption to such a staggering degree that it forced the Met into reform. Not enough of course - not yet, anyway. While in 1999, blacks were five times more likely than whites to be subject to stop-and-search, now the figure is seven times more likely. Things have, in this instance, actually got worse. But it is at least less likely now that someone - god forbid - in Neville Lawrence's position will be treated the way the Met did originally, when they accused him of being part of the problem, and generally regarded him and his wife as nuisances. Today, I doubt we'd have to wait for someone of the stature of Nelson Mandela to demand that plainly identified suspects be actually, like, arrested, and that evidence be sought. The death of Stephen Lawrence, the Macpherson inquiry, and the hacking scandal are slowly rolling back the lid on the corruption and wilful incompetence that has been allowed fester in a uniquely unaccountable force. Doreen Lawrence was undoubtedly right to say she felt no desire to celebrate after the convictions - after all, there are still at least three more murder suspects out there who need to be brought to justice, and what follows in the next few months will be a test of how far the Met has come But the verdict IS a reason for Londoners to celebrate. Now that there's a reasonable expectation that Met officers might arrest drug gangs rather than profit from them, the city just feels a little safer. Here's hoping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Will any police officers go to jail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Will any police officers go to jail? Dont be silly, A tough new report today advised they don't flirt with reporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 I love honest bobbies. Someone, somewhere has tarnished our decent coppers good name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Will any police officers go to jail? Almost 400 Met officers have criminal records. Anything's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Almost 400 Met officers have criminal records. I didn't realise Chesney Hawkes had that many fans TBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 I see the Attorney-General is to review whether the sentences handed to the two men convicted of killing teenager Stephen Lawrence were "unduly lenient". The review follows a request by a member of the public and comes after the trial judge, Mr Justice Treacy, suggested he would have doubled the minimum terms of Gary Dobson and David Norris if the law had allowed. I was suprised that they were lenient. but then realised that they carried out the killing when they were teenagers and therefore got a teenagers sentence. I was still suprised at this, As Michael Ross up here who was eventaully convicted of shooting an Indian Waiter up here when he was 15 back in 1994 The case was heard in 2008 and ross received a 25 year sentence. He is waiting for an appeal. Through no fault of his own his appeal been delayed on a number of occassions and is due to be heard sometime this year. There must be one rule for the english and another for scotland when it comes to jail sentences for committing a crime when your underage. Any thoughts Oh the Ross case has divided the community up here. The police involved were retired after the conclusion of the case and it is felt there has been a miscarriage of justice here and a lot of lies told. I know the police involved and Ross's family. Also know the former Marine armour who stole the ammunition that was allegedly used> I have know time for this person by the way. but that has something to do with my deployment to Irag a few years ago. My relatives would not be allowed in the legion had I have lost my life over there. He was a committe member thats all I will say. he should have gone to Jail for stealing a couple of boxes of 9mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 There must be one rule for the english and another for scotland when it comes to jail sentences for committing a crime when your underage. I think there is, literally. England & Wales are different to Scotland and NI. For all the turbulence and hype around the case over many years people have forgotten they were 16 when the murder took place. 14 years for a 16 year old seems about right, but is lenient for them as grown men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 I think there is, literally. England & Wales are different to Scotland and NI. For all the turbulence and hype around the case over many years people have forgotten they were 16 when the murder took place. 14 years for a 16 year old seems about right, but is lenient for them as grown men.i agree but i think their avoidance and lies up to now has adults should have been taken nto account has mitigating circumstance . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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