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It still haunts me 'til this day - I never want to hear Saints fans sing that song

 

Which is why I can never understand why we try to sing "Southampton Till I Die". I'm sure others sing it as well, but I always associate that shtty ditty with Portsmuff as they definitely knocked it out before us.

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Which is why I can never understand why we try to sing "Southampton Till I Die". I'm sure others sing it as well, but I always associate that shtty ditty with Portsmuff as they definitely knocked it out before us.

 

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Which is why I can never understand why we try to sing "Southampton Till I Die". I'm sure others sing it as well, but I always associate that shtty ditty with Portsmuff as they definitely knocked it out before us.

 

Everyone sings it.

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Erm, I cant tell if this is a joke or not. I'm going to guess not and that you're just the village idiot.

 

1. Sing it because it's like throwing it back in their face. It's called banter.

2. The words 'skates' doesn't fit as it's one syllable. The word requires 2 syllables. Hence 'pompey' and 'laughing' work!......'num nuts' LOLZZZZ!!!!111111111one

 

We could use 'skates back down' but I like the laughing one more now anyway

 

Golden **** are you one of those num nuts that sang "pay up pompey" ? Erm.. thoughts so..

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Golden **** are you one of those num nuts that sang "pay up pompey" ? Erm.. thoughts so..

 

Thats was embarassing, i watched the game at home the next day, well the first 70 mins anyway and at the start of the game when all the dins were singing "pay up Pompey", it was definitely Saints fans, i remember the moment, the commentator says "as usual, the fantastic Pompey fans are in fine voice" It just sounded to the world like it was them singing.

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"Pay up Pompey" was nowhere near as bad as people make out. Personally, I don't give a s**t how it came across on TV. What it did do though, was shut the skates up.....and they knew exactly what we were singing (The "money" hand gesture also helped)

 

Agree 100% - who gives a f**K what it sounds like on TV. Its as witty a chant as we've come up with: they got the message and, from where I was stood, it riled them.

 

By the same dopey logic, nobody should sing OWTS when we play spurs in case its attributed to the other side.

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Agree 100% - who gives a f**K what it sounds like on TV. Its as witty a chant as we've come up with: they got the message and, from where I was stood, it riled them.

 

By the same dopey logic, nobody should sing OWTS when we play spurs in case its attributed to the other side.

 

That's the way I saw it......I don't go to saints matches to look good on telly.....I went to that one to wind up pompey fans and from were I was sitting it looked like it worked a treat.

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Agree 100% - who gives a f**K what it sounds like on TV. Its as witty a chant as we've come up with: they got the message and, from where I was stood, it riled them.

 

By the same dopey logic, nobody should sing OWTS when we play spurs in case its attributed to the other side.

 

But analysing it by looking at how the Skate fans saw it in terms of a wind-up is only seeing one side of it. The Skate players are used to hearing it as encouragement to them at Krap Nottarf to lift their game, so they might well not have been able to distinguish the difference between pay and play and assumed that their fans were in fine voice geeing them on. Also, as has been pointed out, the Skate fans will probably have been mistakenly credited with superb support on the telly, because their chant was heard loud and clear, when it was us making that noise. Much more effective for that reason IMO was the "Pompey's going down with no money in the bank" chant.

 

And when we next get to play Spurs, I'll be happy with them singing OWTS, because it is our chant and all we have to do is have them sing it and shout Saints instead of Spurs at the appropriate juncture, to have our players and those watching on the box to think that it is we Saints fans in good voice.

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Anybody who was there would never want to hear that song again

 

Well I was, that's one of the reasons I want us to reclaim it, otherwise there's too much of a chance it'll spring up somewhere to annoy me, I want it to remind me of us thrashing them.

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But analysing it by looking at how the Skate fans saw it in terms of a wind-up is only seeing one side of it. The Skate players are used to hearing it as encouragement to them at Krap Nottarf to lift their game, so they might well not have been able to distinguish the difference between pay and play and assumed that their fans were in fine voice geeing them on. Also, as has been pointed out, the Skate fans will probably have been mistakenly credited with superb support on the telly, because their chant was heard loud and clear, when it was us making that noise. Much more effective for that reason IMO was the "Pompey's going down with no money in the bank" chant.

 

And when we next get to play Spurs, I'll be happy with them singing OWTS, because it is our chant and all we have to do is have them sing it and shout Saints instead of Spurs at the appropriate juncture, to have our players and those watching on the box to think that it is we Saints fans in good voice.

 

Fair points - as you say what the blue few hear and react to is only side of it. If pay up pompey was our one and only chant, then it would be ridiculous for the reasons you say; but it wasn't - and in moderation seems the perfect wind-up. Re. spurs, agree its our chant, so not easy to confuse, though don't underestimate their sense of ownership over it and the extent to which others associate them with it. Indeed I know of parts of our own fanbase that deliberately wreck attempts to do a slow OWTS because its seen as a 'f**king yiddo song' I joke you not.

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Which is why I can never understand why we try to sing "Southampton Till I Die". I'm sure others sing it as well, but I always associate that shtty ditty with Portsmuff as they definitely knocked it out before us.

 

I don't sing it because I used to sing (Newport) "County til I die" at Somerton Park when I was a kid. I unexpectedly outlived the club but after the bankruptcy I came to Southampton and it would be somewhat hypocritical to sing it about 2 teams. But it's true, pretty much everyone's been singing it for at least 20 years.

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I don't sing it because I used to sing (Newport) "County til I die" at Somerton Park when I was a kid. I unexpectedly outlived the club but after the bankruptcy I came to Southampton and it would be somewhat hypocritical to sing it about 2 teams. But it's true, pretty much everyone's been singing it for at least 20 years.

 

it's just a song, it's not making a vow never to cheat on a club, easter weekend a couple of years ago i went to wolves away on good friday and joined in with saints fans singing "southampton til i die" , the next day i went to Chester v Macclesfield in the Chester end with other Fulham lads i was up for the weekend with, we all joined in with "chester til I die" , the following day we went to Man City v Fulham and sang "fulham til I die"

 

i don't think anyone is going to interrogate you for singing before about another club.

 

that said, i don't like the song.

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it's just a song, it's not making a vow never to cheat on a club, easter weekend a couple of years ago i went to wolves away on good friday and joined in with saints fans singing "southampton til i die" , the next day i went to Chester v Macclesfield in the Chester end with other Fulham lads i was up for the weekend with, we all joined in with "chester til I die" , the following day we went to Man City v Fulham and sang "fulham til I die"

 

i don't think anyone is going to interrogate you for singing before about another club.

 

that said, i don't like the song.

 

I'm still not going to do it.

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Indeed I know of parts of our own fanbase that deliberately wreck attempts to do a slow OWTS because its seen as a 'f**king yiddo song' I joke you not.

 

Unbelievable! Apart from other clubs, generally in minor leagues, or in Rugby, who also have the Saints nickname, the song is probably more associated in British sport with us. How can some of our fanbase possibly associate it more with Spurs than with us? Cretins!

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But analysing it by looking at how the Skate fans saw it in terms of a wind-up is only seeing one side of it. The Skate players are used to hearing it as encouragement to them at Krap Nottarf to lift their game, so they might well not have been able to distinguish the difference between pay and play and assumed that their fans were in fine voice geeing them on. Also, as has been pointed out, the Skate fans will probably have been mistakenly credited with superb support on the telly, because their chant was heard loud and clear, when it was us making that noise. Much more effective for that reason IMO was the "Pompey's going down with no money in the bank" chant.

 

And when we next get to play Spurs, I'll be happy with them singing OWTS, because it is our chant and all we have to do is have them sing it and shout Saints instead of Spurs at the appropriate juncture, to have our players and those watching on the box to think that it is we Saints fans in good voice.

 

Are you seriously telling me that the players on the pitch couldn't tell the difference between the 3000ish Pompey fans singing it and the 27000ish saints fans?

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I don't sing it because I used to sing (Newport) "County til I die" at Somerton Park when I was a kid. I unexpectedly outlived the club but after the bankruptcy I came to Southampton and it would be somewhat hypocritical to sing it about 2 teams. But it's true, pretty much everyone's been singing it for at least 20 years.

 

As I said in my first post, many other teams do sing it, but Portsmuff sung it for a few seasons beofre we latched on to it.

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As I said in my first post, many other teams do sing it, but Portsmuff sung it for a few seasons beofre we latched on to it.

 

Yeah but there's got to be a point where that just doesn't matter any more ?

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Are you seriously telling me that the players on the pitch couldn't tell the difference between the 3000ish Pompey fans singing it and the 27000ish saints fans?

 

Are you seriously telling me that the entire 27000 Saints fans were singing "pay up Pompey"? No, of course they weren't. Most of the Saints fans singing it were on either side of the Skate fans in part of the Northam and the adjacent Kingsland and Itchen corners. The players on the pitch are concentrating on their game and just hear it as background noise and I bet that they couldn't distinguish whether it was "pay" or "play" that was being sung, any more than it would have been distinguishable in the commentary box. Additionally, whenever we chanted it, the Skates also chanted it too, to make it sound as if it is all them.

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