hamster Posted 19 May, 2011 Share Posted 19 May, 2011 Why do you 'do good things [sic] though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 19 May, 2011 Share Posted 19 May, 2011 The patronising, self righteous and holier than thou manner of your posts lead me to form this opinion, you are not the only one that can base and opinion on what they read you know. I know for a fact that you have no first hand experience of prison, think they are holiday camps and have formed your opinion based on what you have read, you have said this yourself and let me tell you, you are wrong. And partly to appease you and partly because i dont give a f*ck what most people on this forum think and those that i do care about will know my story anyway, i will tell you what my experience is. Some time ago i spent two years in prison, (a sentance way over the top for my offence, which was also my first and only before or since, but thats another story) I spent this sentance at Two "B cat" prisons, Wandsworth & Pentoville, widely regarded as two of the worst and most violent in the country. A "C Cat" Camp Hill Isle of Wight and a "D Cat" Ford. SO it's safe to say i know the regimes at 3 out of the 4 types of prisons there are, the other being an "A Cat" where the likes of Ian Huntley would be. In my times in prison i witnessed, stabbings, sucides, glassings, several times i saw boiling water with sugar in it being thrown at another prisoner so it sticks and scars, i was about 2 foot away on one occasion and this could easily have got me as well, numerous fights, prisoners being beaten shi*less by other inmates or officers, peoples faces being cut with razor blades, numerous incidents of drug taking, hunger strikes, floors being flooded by prisoners smashing up their cells. Being banged up in a cell 23 out 24 hours a day, 2 men to a 8 foot by 3 foot cell, with nothing but a book i had taken in with me for entertainment, i was wondering where my playstation and Widescreen telly was the whole time. I met some of the biggest w*nkers you could only dream of meeting. I also met some of the soundest people you could ever dream of meeting, who were there because they had f*cked up and made a stupid mistake, much like myself. Now what qualifies you to comment on the subject? Or is it's fair to say my qualifcations on this subject outrank yours? But still, what do i know, they are all holiday camps aren't they. Why were you in prison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 (edited) Nope, definitely not really Dune. Either that or you're trolling, pretending to be reasonable. Cutting the re-offending rate saves money. Low taxation/freedom is at the heart on being Conservative. It makes perfect sense to say that prison does work in some instances, but in many instances it doesn't work. Instead of locking people such a petty criminals up only for them to re-offend on release to feed their drug addictions an approach that works is what is needed. I.E a relaxation of the draconian drugs laws. Alcohol is legal therefore most drugs should be legal. Far more crimes are comitted by people that are ****ed up than by people on drugs. If drugs were legalally available at a reasonable price then addicts wouldn't need to steal to fuel their addiction. Of course some would, and maybe the overall level of addicts would increase, but imo the levelof crime to fund the addiction would drop and therefore the cost to taxpayers of prisons would drop too. In fact the taxation gained from the legalisation of drugs would probably pay for any effects. Edited 20 May, 2011 by dune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 @Turkish. Very good post. I think you brought some much needed perspective into the thread. @dune - Agree on drug policy. They're readily available, and every penny that is spend on reinforcing prohibition is a complete waste of taxpayer money. We're not stopping the drugs problem, and never will. We're essentially paying a ****load of cash to say "we don't approve of this", when clearly, many people do. The country could make and save an absolute fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 Why were you in prison? That's another story, but i was one of those banged up for the incident at Maze Hill station between Saints and Charlton fans about 10 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 That's another story, but i was one of those banged up for the incident at Maze Hill station between Saints and Charlton fans about 10 years ago. I recalled reading about that at the time and having refreshed my memory by reading this... http://www.hooli-news.co.uk/researchitem.php?15 ...I have some sympathy with your contention that the sentence was out of proportion to the crime. It seems that those caught up in this incident were given those sentences as a deterrent to others and that does not seem fair against the background of the examples of other criminal acts highlighted, where much lesser sentences were meted out for arguably much more serious crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 malc, tom, joe, chris or sam which one is turkish..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 It doesn't really matter does it Jamie. And for the benefit of the others involved this is all probably best left in the past, where it belongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 It doesn't really matter does it Jamie. And for the benefit of the others involved this is all probably best left in the past, where it belongs. you know my name. just curious of what yours is...alls fair and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 you know my name. just curious of what yours is...alls fair and all that I think I can safely say its none of the above. Oh, and turks, somebodys stolen your old avatar, take a look at that site I mentioned, the Corner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 malc, tom, joe, chris or sam which one is turkish..? Which one might have been Stanley? More seriously, it doesn't matter because Turkish has made his point and, in doing so, left himself open to being judged even though he has paid his penalty. I admire your honesty Turkish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 And which is VFTT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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