NickG Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 OK, based on what you've seen so far would you sign him? I'm sure you'll probably come out with the "I trust Nigel" line but frankly IMO Stephens really hasn't done anything - if he was 5 years older most people would be slagging off his performances so far. I just don't see any natural attribute he has that will get better, apart from gaining experience which will make him an average L1 player. If he can't hack it in a very good league 1 team then don't expect him to be better in a less competitive championship one. Obviously I don't rate him but even if we were a newly promoted side just looking to stave off relegation I wouldn't fancy signing him. To be fair you thought we should accept we weren't going to get automatic promotion........ can't hack it? as 21 year old in CM was Oldhams top scorer and capt! Think he was fairly good on assist as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 yes, actually So what attributes would you say make him worth signing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 17 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Just seen on Oldham Chronicle, Stephens is back at Boundary park!!!!!! Lol, bet he doesnt know if he is coming or going!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 (edited) in his 4 games he has played..he has assisted in at least 1 vital goal...two if im correct. he made a great contribution at argyle away..when the pressure was on he did nothing in that game. He was absolutely woeful in the first half (our worst player IMO) and only marginally better in the second. I don't have a problem with you saying you need to give a youngster more time, but he was poor in the games he did play no matter what your stats might suggest. Edited 17 May, 2011 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Please read below... BASED ON WHAT I HAVE SEEN SO FAR!!! What do you want me to say? That we should sign him? Based on what evidence? That a newspaper reports that Everton wants him? The same accusations of jumping the gun can be leveled at the people saying we should sign him. I can only go on the evidence of my own eyes and form an opinion on what I have seen of him. Based on what I have seen so far, my comment is that he is not worth the transfer fee and wages and that there are better more proven options available. Of course it is entirely possible that this could change and that he progresses and becomes better but I am offering an opinion AT THIS STAGE. I hope that isn't to difficult for you to comprehend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 I'd be gutted if we signed Michael Owen after the slagging off i've given him throughout his entire career. I simply can't stand the little git. Yeh I bet you boo'd when he scored that goal against Argentina, the mans class... Plum!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 The signing of stephens or an announcement about the new home kit?......i hope it is the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Indeed and in any of those four games did he do anything? Depends what you mean by doing anything. Was he brilliant for 90 minutes slicing the opposition open with defences splitting passes and mazy dribbles then no. On his debut against Charlton he looked good on the ball and can pass, then he got injured and disapeared for a few weeks. He played well at Plymouth as well, in a massive game. So yes, he did do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 17 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 17 May, 2011 http://bit.ly/m2LaOP this may or may not be the link!! I totally give up lol!! Berk!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 how would you know that after 4 appearances.. serious question..? Hypo writes everyone and everything off, Christ knows why he claims to 'support' Saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 http://bit.ly/m2LaOP this may or may not be the link!! I totally give up lol!! Berk!!! So the stephens debate can be put on hold for a while. I will remain with the kit announcement or european scout appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 he did nothing in that game. He was absolutely woeful in the first half (our worst player IMO) and only marginally better in the second. I don't have a problem with you saying you need to give a youngster more time, but he was poor in the games he did play no matter what your stats might suggest. I've more time for Stephens as a long-term prospect but agree re. his performances. Its also clear that NA didn't quite trust him for the big away games after his performance at Rochdale. Yes he started against Plymouth though that was arguably out of necessity not choice (Guly's injury at Brentford forced Chaplow to play RM, freeing up a CM spot). By contrast, he was practically ignored for the massive Brighton and Brentford games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 interestingly...this season (going on league 1 alone) dale has made one more appearance than guly, has the same amount of assists and goals...yet is not very good despite being only 21 and playing alot deeper in the park..and playing for a pretty average club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 http://bit.ly/m2LaOP this may or may not be the link!! I totally give up lol!! Berk!!! Curiouser and curiouser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 17 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 17 May, 2011 I just want to say Berk!! My thread has descended into farce, petty arguments and mud slinging!!! Is that normal lol?????? YES, yes of course it is!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Hypo writes everyone and everything off, Christ knows why he claims to 'support' Saints! Why are loads of your posts talking about me? I don't think I have ever commented on you. Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 interestingly...this season (going on league 1 alone) dale has made one more appearance than guly, has the same amount of assists and goals...yet is not very good despite being only 21 and playing alot deeper in the park..and playing for a pretty average club yet you omit he took all their pens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 interestingly...this season (going on league 1 alone) dale has made one more appearance than guly, has the same amount of assists and goals...yet is not very good despite being only 21 and playing alot deeper in the park..and playing for a pretty average club Who has said that? Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Depends what you mean by doing anything. Was he brilliant for 90 minutes slicing the opposition open with defences splitting passes and mazy dribbles then no. On his debut against Charlton he looked good on the ball and can pass, then he got injured and disapeared for a few weeks. He played well at Plymouth as well, in a massive game. So yes, he did do something. Well it's all about opinions isn't it because I certainly didn't see anything worth getting excited about. Sometimes you can see a player and see that even if they're not the finished article that there's something there - I just didn't get that impression with him. Of course I could be wrong but all I've heard so far is he's clearly comfortable on the ball and has an eye for a pass. All I've seen is comfortable when playing a 5 yard pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 yet you omit he took all their pens. why and how would I know that on the league 1 site...? even more so.. calm and composed at such a young age if we dont snap him up and see what our coaches can do, then someone else at our level at least will do so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 I'd be gutted if we signed Michael Owen after the slagging off i've given him throughout his entire career. I simply can't stand the little git. I felt like that when we signed Mark Hughes......and he did **** all to win me over in the time we had him which seemed like an eternity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Who has said that? Seriously. To be fair I'm willing to say it and get shot down for it...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 He played well at Plymouth as well, in a massive game. So yes, he did do something. Could not disagree more with this comment. He was poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Could not disagree more with this comment. He was poor. I also thought he was good..in a massive game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 To be fair I'm willing to say it and get shot down for it...... Fair enough. I'm quite happy to ay he has some potential, just not enough from what I have seen to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 I also thought he was good..in a massive game.. How many times have you watched him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Dale isn't a bad player. He wasn't spectacular in his time with us but he didn't have a massive amount of chances to impress and make his mark, as we had a pretty settled group of players. He's obviously got talent to work with in the glimpses I saw of him. I reckon he's one of these players that will become a decent NPC midfielder playing for a rival club if we miss out on him. We've slagged players off before that aren't crap as proven by their success at other clubs. I'd be happy with him signing. (if that's what it turns out to be) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 How many times have you watched him? 3 out of the 4 games he has played..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 3 out of the 4 games he has played..... Fair enough. Just asking. Well I'm happy that your opinion differs from mine but it seems you have a problem with someone having an opposing opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 A suggestion(on twitter) of what maybe being 'put together' as stated by Jordan Sibly,a teaser video of the new kit/kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 I've more time for Stephens as a long-term prospect but agree re. his performances. Its also clear that NA didn't quite trust him for the big away games after his performance at Rochdale. Yes he started against Plymouth though that was arguably out of necessity not choice (Guly's injury at Brentford forced Chaplow to play RM, freeing up a CM spot). By contrast, he was practically ignored for the massive Brighton and Brentford games. exactly how I saw it. I'm not suggesting we could sign some of these Premiership players banded about on the HCDAJFU thread, but I do wonder if there might be better available than Stephens. I know he will be a Saint, but we do sign poor players now and then. I was one of those slating the Pulis signing before we got him based on a few sighting for other clubs, but then again I thought N'Guessen would have been decent for us (admittedly he got less game time than Stephens) so what do I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Fair enough. Just asking. Well I'm happy that your opinion differs from mine but it seems you have a problem with someone having an opposing opinion. Nah,get outta here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 None of our midfield stood out in the plymouth game (not least until the second half when we were comfortable). Of course, that's largely because plymouth bypassed it with its long ball tactics and pressing us high up the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 3 out of the 4 games he has played..... he played 6 times for Saints, but then again he did go unnoticed in a couple, especially at Plymouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 A suggestion(on twitter) of what maybe being 'put together' as stated by Jordan Sibly,a teaser video of the new kit/kits. At this time of evening/night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 It will be Stephens signing nice little leak the the echo how premier league teams are sniffing around a young talent and bam we do it again he signs for lowly southampton ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 We are all assuming a little here aren't we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltashSaint Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Is it just me or is anyone else starting to get a little bit peeved off with this whole 'announcement'? It's 10pm and still no news. It had better be good when it finally arrives!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 We are all assuming a little here aren't we. You know what they say about assuming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Is it just me or is anyone else starting to get a little bit peeved off with this whole 'announcement'? It's 10pm and still no news. It had better be good when it finally arrives!! Obviously still trying to out-fox the Echo with the timings. Hopefully that means it is something worth with-holding like a player signing/kit launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Is it just me or is anyone else starting to get a little bit peeved off with this whole 'announcement'? It's 10pm and still no news. It had better be good when it finally arrives!! TBH I don't know why people go so over the top on it. If they announce something - good! If they don't - oh well, never mind. Plenty of time in the summer to hear lots of news and it's way too early to be getting worked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 A preview of the season's DVD maybe anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Is it just me or is anyone else starting to get a little bit peeved off with this whole 'announcement'? It's 10pm and still no news. It had better be good when it finally arrives!! Yep,television x starts its freeview at 10pm and i cant stay focused and concentrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltashSaint Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 TBH I don't know why people go so over the top on it. If they announce something - good! If they don't - oh well, never mind. Plenty of time in the summer to hear lots of news and it's way too early to be getting worked up. I normally wouldn't get that excited, but the build up by Mr Sibley points to something of some note (I hope!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Threads merged Have to admit I thought we'd know what it was about by now, have the echo managed to annoy the club again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 I just want to say Berk!! My thread has descended into farce, petty arguments and mud slinging!!! Is that normal lol?????? YES, yes of course it is!! what is your relation to thorpie the saint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 17 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 17 May, 2011 what is your relation to thorpie the saint? Brothers I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Brothers I think! ? So what makes you the sinner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Nearly 5 pages on no news?! Jordan Sibley does well at his job.... Post #199 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Nearly 5 pages on no news?! Jordan Sibley does well at his job.... Post #199 Well, it is close-season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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