Lord Duckhunter Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Mrs Duck did the same for me when I was on 6 points, so I'm hardly in a position to condemn Huhne however much I cant stand the bloke. However, I am not an MP elected to the body that passes the law and I can't afford a driver to ferry me about if I lost my licence. IF he did it, Huhne is finished as an altenative to Clegg, which leaves Tim Farron in the box seat. He has called for an in/out referundum on the EU, so it could be a win win all round. That Clown Huhne out of Govt, and more pressure to allow the British people their say on Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Huhne is now being investigated for dodgy election expenses. He's finished as a politician. Eastleigh will become Tory in the very near future. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13606187 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Yep. Huhne is toast. Why is it that the super-rich like Huhne make such dirty, corrupt politicians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Huhne is now being investigated for dodgy election expenses. He's finished as a politician. Eastleigh will become Tory in the very near future. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13606187 Well lets hope the next one doesn't kill thenselves while indulging in self harming, erotic strangulation, while dressed in womens underwear and doing coke then.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Well lets hope the next one doesn't kill thenselves while indulging in self harming, erotic strangulation, while dressed in womens underwear and doing coke then.................... Get your facts right. There was no evidence of any drug-taking at the autopsy. As for the actual cause of death, there is even speculation by a conspiracy theory that he might have been murdered. http://www.newsmedianews.com/milligan.shtml But even if he killed himself because of a strange sexual ritual, had he not died, we would have been none the wiser about it. Are we all on here models of virtue, faithfully indulging in straight missionary position sex with the same partner, never indulging in anything extra marital, heaven forbid having to pay for it? Does it really matter what these politicos do, so long as they don’t do it in the streets and frighten the horses? Having read over the years about the sexual proclivities of various politicos like Jeremy Thorpe, Ron Davies and even closer to home, Mark Oaten, nothing much surprises me any more. With regard to Huhne, there are now three separate reasons why the Eastleigh Electorate might decide that they do not wish to vote for him, either if there were to be a by-election or at the next general election. He made a lot about how he was a family man, yet was having an affair at the time of the last election. There are these allegations that he was caught speeding and got somebody else to take the points hit. He is accused of irregularities regarding his election expenses. Now, some of these things might be true and some not. But all the electorate will see, is a lot of mud being thrown in his direction and some of it is bound to stick. He is damaged goods for the Lib Dems and even if he proves his innocence over the speeding or election expenses allegations, he will lose the seat at the next election From what I have seen of her and having met her a couple of times, I very much doubt that Maria Hutchings will be found to have any of these failings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 1 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Get your facts right. There was no evidence of any drug-taking at the autopsy. As for the actual cause of death, there is even speculation by a conspiracy theory that he might have been murdered. http://www.newsmedianews.com/milligan.shtml But even if he killed himself because of a strange sexual ritual, had he not died, we would have been none the wiser about it. Are we all on here models of virtue, faithfully indulging in straight missionary position sex with the same partner, never indulging in anything extra marital, heaven forbid having to pay for it? Does it really matter what these politicos do, so long as they don’t do it in the streets and frighten the horses? Having read over the years about the sexual proclivities of various politicos like Jeremy Thorpe, Ron Davies and even closer to home, Mark Oaten, nothing much surprises me any more. tbh, I dont see much in the conspiracy theory at all, tho it makes an interesting read. I suspect he just w*nked himself to death, its not as uncommon a scenario as you might think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Get your facts right. There was no evidence of any drug-taking at the autopsy. As for the actual cause of death, there is even speculation by a conspiracy theory that he might have been murdered. http://www.newsmedianews.com/milligan.shtml But even if he killed himself because of a strange sexual ritual, had he not died, we would have been none the wiser about it. Are we all on here models of virtue, faithfully indulging in straight missionary position sex with the same partner, never indulging in anything extra marital, heaven forbid having to pay for it? Does it really matter what these politicos do, so long as they don’t do it in the streets and frighten the horses? Having read over the years about the sexual proclivities of various politicos like Jeremy Thorpe, Ron Davies and even closer to home, Mark Oaten, nothing much surprises me any more. With regard to Huhne, there are now three separate reasons why the Eastleigh Electorate might decide that they do not wish to vote for him, either if there were to be a by-election or at the next general election. He made a lot about how he was a family man, yet was having an affair at the time of the last election. There are these allegations that he was caught speeding and got somebody else to take the points hit. He is accused of irregularities regarding his election expenses. Now, some of these things might be true and some not. But all the electorate will see, is a lot of mud being thrown in his direction and some of it is bound to stick. He is damaged goods for the Lib Dems and even if he proves his innocence over the speeding or election expenses allegations, he will lose the seat at the next election From what I have seen of her and having met her a couple of times, I very much doubt that Maria Hutchings will be found to have any of these failings. Well lets put it this way Eastleigh was con for 37 years before the untimely death of the last con MP from that point on it's been Lib Dem so I'm guessing it did matter what he got up to as far as Eastleigh was concerned. I agree though Maria Hutchings comes across as a decent person wouldn't mind her as my MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Well lets put it this way Eastleigh was con for 37 years before the untimely death of the last con MP from that point on it's been Lib Dem so I'm guessing it did matter what he got up to as far as Eastleigh was concerned. I agree though Maria Hutchings comes across as a decent person wouldn't mind her as my MP. Yes, as soon as the circumstances of his death became known, Conservative chances of holding the seat were considerably diminished, in much the same way that in Winchester, the Lib Dems lost control in the aftermath of Mark Oaten's sex scandal. But as you say, the fallout of Milligan's by-election meant that the Lib-Dems, already powerful on the EBC, gained and held the seat for a number of years, but have a thin majority that will easily be overturned because of the perceived misdemeanours of Huhne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 With regard to Huhne, there are now three separate reasons why the Eastleigh Electorate might decide that they do not wish to vote for him, either if there were to be a by-election or at the next general election. He made a lot about how he was a family man, yet was having an affair at the time of the last election. There are these allegations that he was caught speeding and got somebody else to take the points hit. He is accused of irregularities regarding his election expenses. He is a Liberal Democrat. You just have to look at the local elections to see that as a party they are in decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 He is a Liberal Democrat. You just have to look at the local elections to see that as a party they are in decline. http://today.yougov.co.uk/politics/govt-trackers-update-31st-may Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 1 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Huhne does come across as a prize prat tbh. Not only his wife-deserting antics and his expenses fiddles, he just doesnt come across well. I heard him on R4 early one morning, he made charlie kennedy sound sober and reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 He is a Liberal Democrat. You just have to look at the local elections to see that as a party they are in decline. So much in decline here in the Eastleigh borough that they won EVERY seat in the recent local elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 http://today.yougov.co.uk/politics/govt-trackers-update-31st-may I'm surprised at how well the Conservative vote is holding up. Once the electoral commision have reduced the number of MPs and changed the boundaries I have a suspician that it won't favour Labour so much. I'm confident that we'll see a return of a Conservative majority at the next election. Fingers crossed Millibean is still leader of Labour because he is great help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 Getting back on topic and ignoring the whingey posts from the defeated YES campaign, events regarding Huhnes future are looking grim. The media have revealed that his wife was in London at a meeting just before the time of the speeding incident and may have gone for a meal after and Huhne was in Strasbourg the day before. They report that many MEPs flew back into Stanstead on the evening of the offence which would mean that if Huhnes wife had an alibi someone else would have driven via the M11. Looking ahead if Essex police do investigate and it's found that his wife wasn't driving and Huhne was then Huhne will in all liklihood face a custodial sentence and that would lead to a by-election. If there was a by election then i'd expect a fairly low turnout (good for the Tories) and the Lib Dems have taken a hammering lately (good for the Tories). I predict we will soon see Eastleigh back as a Conservative seat and another yellow smudge will be wiped off the political map of the south with Winchester and Romsey already back how they should be. Mr Huhne, a Liberal Democrat, faces political oblivion if he is formally accused of perverting the course of justice http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017701/Chris-Huhne-Vicky-Pryce-interviewed-police-speeding-points-again.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 23 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 23 July, 2011 Mr Huhne, a Liberal Democrat, faces political oblivion if he is formally accused of perverting the course of justice http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017701/Chris-Huhne-Vicky-Pryce-interviewed-police-speeding-points-again.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Without wanting to seem shallow, judging by the two horrors in that article he doesnt appear to have much taste in women. And if he gets done for perverting the course of justice, surely thats it for him as far as politics goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 Without wanting to seem shallow, judging by the two horrors in that article he doesnt appear to have much taste in women. And if he gets done for perverting the course of justice, surely thats it for him as far as politics goes. It won't do her career a whole lot of good either, and she's quite a high-flyer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicky_Pryce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 It won't do her career a whole lot of good either, and she's quite a high-flyer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicky_Pryce Which makes me think she might back track. To be honest I cannot see the logic of her bringing this action in the first place as she is basically saying she went along with a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 Which makes me think she might back track. To be honest I cannot see the logic of her bringing this action in the first place as she is basically saying she went along with a crime. A Woman Scorned, and all that......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 July, 2011 Share Posted 27 July, 2011 Breaking News: Essex police have passed the Chris huhne file to the CPS. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14314745 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21320992 - Well, that's that then. Career over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 4 February, 2013 Author Share Posted 4 February, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21320992 - Well, that's that then. Career over. His career was already over, what he'll be worried about now is the jail term. Perverting the course of justice usually carries a custodial sentence. His ex-wife will be right in it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 So after all the wind and p*ss from him, wasting taxpayers money dragging the investigation out, hes finally pleaded guilty knowing full well he's bang-to-rights and facing a bigger sentence if he keeps his squealing up. What a prize bellend. He really is a piece of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 So after all the wind and p*ss from him, wasting taxpayers money dragging the investigation out, hes finally pleaded guilty knowing full well he's bang-to-rights and facing a bigger sentence if he keeps his squealing up. What a prize bellend. He really is a piece of work. I love the smell of righteous indignation in the morning. And yep, it is righteous. Maybe it is something to do with the pressures of being MP for Eastleigh. Could have been worse though, as other MPs for the constituency have proved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Will be interesting to see how the by-election goes given the Lib Dems continued strong performance in the area in local elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysstuff Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Will be interesting to see how the by-election goes given the Lib Dems continued strong performance in the area in local elections. They are favourites with the bookies despite everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Will be interesting to see how the by-election goes given the Lib Dems continued strong performance in the area in local elections. Well, whoever the candidate is, you should offer your PR services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Damn, I bet we end up with a f*cking Tory now. Ironically it could be the current electoral system which the Lib Dems are opposed to which means they will get re-elected. If you don't want the Tories in you have to vote Lib Dem. Barmy system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrise Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 With Hunhne gone, fingers cross the self serving Lib-dem councillor tossers will follow suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 With Hunhne gone, fingers cross the self serving Lib-dem councillor tossers will follow suit. What, all of them? That's a hell of a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 What, all of them? That's a hell of a lot. Too many. Lib-Dem mafia in Eastleigh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 I liked him, he replied to my letter re Safe Standing pretty much straight away and said he would support it in Parliament based on the feelings of his constituents. Only done what loads of people do all the time (passing points between a couple), never wish bird on any non violent offender, absolute waste of money imo. Round here though it's never Tories vs Lib Dem, it's Tories vs everyone else. My old man (staunch Labour) told me as such when I turned 18, either go with my heart and vote Labour, or go with my head and vote Lib Dem to keep the toffs out. Since then I've learned to think for myself and look after my own and my families interests more, and unlike most mental Tory hating lefties that would refuse to vote for the Tories even if Cameron allowed them a seat in the cabinet, I've grown up to be pragmatic and move my vote around. The By-election will certainly be interesting anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 I do think if the Lib Dems lose this one, it could spark a very big panic. The Lib Dems have been banking on a strategy of retention and looking at the local election results, this is really a seat they should retain if they don't want to wiped out. I know that it is a slightly different environment because it is a by-election, but I think there is a lot riding on the result of this... including perhaps the future of the coalition and Nick Clegg's leadership. Of course, the last thing the tories want at the moment is the collapse of the coalition as they would never win an election, so will be extremely interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 4 February, 2013 Author Share Posted 4 February, 2013 I do think if the Lib Dems lose this one, it could spark a very big panic. The Lib Dems have been banking on a strategy of retention and looking at the local election results, this is really a seat they should retain if they don't want to wiped out. I know that it is a slightly different environment because it is a by-election, but I think there is a lot riding on the result of this... including perhaps the future of the coalition and Nick Clegg's leadership. Of course, the last thing the tories want at the moment is the collapse of the coalition as they would never win an election, so will be extremely interesting. Really? So who would the tories be up against if the coalition collapsed?? Labour under Miliband jr are simply unelectable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 I was working for Sky on the night Huhne retained his seat in Eastleigh. Huhne was an incredibly arrogant man and I also had an altercation with his PA, who is a sour-faced *****. I then later found out they were having an affair. I wouldn't trust any politician, but especially not one who leaves his wife for a woman with all the charm and aesthetics of an unwashed scrotum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Really? So who would the tories be up against if the coalition collapsed?? Labour under Miliband jr are simply unelectable. I quite agree with you. I don't know whether Miliband could get elected as a majority right now, I tend to agree with you that he is no Blair or so on. But the scary thing is, he is probably more likeable than Cameron and co who have still to properly convince the public. Don't forget that Cameron failed to win an election against the most unpopular PM since probably Anthony Eden. I think the likely outcome of any election held in the near future would be a Labour led coalition with a severely reduced Lib Dem cohort(maybe about 25?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 So after all the wind and p*ss from him, wasting taxpayers money dragging the investigation out, hes finally pleaded guilty knowing full well he's bang-to-rights and facing a bigger sentence if he keeps his squealing up. What a prize bellend. He really is a piece of work. This is spot on, tells you all you need to know about the bloke. Stood in front of the BBC cameras when it was first brought up and lied. Said he was going to fight this injustice and clear his name, what he really meant was, I did it but want to try and get off on a technicality and save my career. Lib/dems make me laugh banging on about PR all the time, this seat is an exact example of why pure PR would be no good for them. If everybody voted with their political views in mind, they would not stand a cats chance in hell of winning this seat. They win it because Labour supporters vote to keep the Tory out. Under pure PR there would be no need to and their vote would shrink, and the same goes for countless seats right across the country. My hope is that Farage stands, and the people make this a mini referendum on Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 This is spot on, tells you all you need to know about the bloke. Stood in front of the BBC cameras when it was first brought up and lied. Said he was going to fight this injustice and clear his name, what he really meant was, I did it but want to try and get off on a technicality and save my career. Lib/dems make me laugh banging on about PR all the time, this seat is an exact example of why pure PR would be no good for them. If everybody voted with their political views in mind, they would not stand a cats chance in hell of winning this seat. They win it because Labour supporters vote to keep the Tory out. Under pure PR there would be no need to and their vote would shrink, and the same goes for countless seats right across the country. My hope is that Farage stands, and the people make this a mini referendum on Europe. Liberal Democrats don't just support PR because it would get them more seats. Not everything in politics is cynical. The Liberal Democrats are a radical party, and are mainly driven by constitutional issues such as PR and Lords Reform and what not. They aren't a traditional left-right party. Although now it might lead to a drop in seats(or maybe roughly the same number 10% or so), a few years back when they were more popular more may have voted. Although to be honest, we have no idea how it would pan out without the pressure of tactical voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 They look after their own small chance on the lying sack of s**t exchanging nicotine for Vaseline, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony13579 Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 He did plead guilty at the first opportunity.... If you ignore the Notice of intended prosecution, 10 years cover up, newspaper denials, 2 court hearings trying to prevent it coming to court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony13579 Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 They look after their own small chance on the lying sack of s**t exchanging nicotine for Vaseline, This was not a real crime. It was the M11 speed camera http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1227998/Speed-camera-rakes-500-000-year-blamed-doubling-motorway-casualties.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Maria Hutchings is a very good candidate for the Conservatives and as it was the by-election caused by the death of Stephen Milligan that handed the seat to the Lib-Dems, it will be justice if she wins the seat back, considering the circumstances of this by-election, which should rightly affect the Lib-Dem vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Maria Hutchings is a very good candidate for the Conservatives and as it was the by-election caused by the death of Stephen Milligan that handed the seat to the Lib-Dems, it will be justice if she wins the seat back, considering the circumstances of this by-election, which should rightly affect the Lib-Dem vote. Why should this rightly affect the Lib Dem vote? Surely the acts of an individual do not represent the collective? Did all Conservatives become criminals because of Lord Archer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Why should this rightly affect the Lib Dem vote? Surely the acts of an individual do not represent the collective? Did all Conservatives become criminals because of Lord Archer? Now now young sir. The Conservatives didn't become criminals because of Lord Archer. They all had different reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Maria Hutchings is a very good candidate for the Conservatives and as it was the by-election caused by the death of Stephen Milligan that handed the seat to the Lib-Dems, it will be justice if she wins the seat back, considering the circumstances of this by-election, which should rightly affect the Lib-Dem vote. Personally I can't see the Tory vote going up, considering the poor job they are doing running the country. Cuts galore and still not paying any debt down. Farage and UKIP will be all over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Personally I can't see the Tory vote going up, considering the poor job they are doing running the country. Cuts galore and still not paying any debt down. Farage and UKIP will be all over this. But again, I don't really see how UKIP are gonna have a big base here. If you look at polls, Lib Dem voters are on average much more pro-EU than voters of any of the other 2 parties and so are much more likely to never vote UKIP. I don't think they have it, they could kill the tory vote though. It could be very interesting with 4 parties getting a decent turnout. Either that or the Lib Dem vote will hold up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 whilst you will have the odd nutter who will vote anyone but...... in reality, there will be more who probably wont give a shyte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 5 February, 2013 Share Posted 5 February, 2013 Personally I can't see the Tory vote going up, considering the poor job they are doing running the country. Cuts galore and still not paying any debt down. Farage and UKIP will be all over this. What a quaint concept. The Government doesn't run the country, Rupert Murdoch does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 5 February, 2013 Share Posted 5 February, 2013 Why should this rightly affect the Lib Dem vote? Surely the acts of an individual do not represent the collective? Did all Conservatives become criminals because of Lord Archer? Because not every voter who voted for the Lib Dems in the last election was a Lib Dem. You have heard of floating voters, haven't you? Eastleigh had been Conservative since the seat had been formed until Milligan's fiasco. There will be a backlash because Huhne is a liar and not just about the speeding, but also claiming to be a family man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 February, 2013 Share Posted 5 February, 2013 Personally I can't see the Tory vote going up, considering the poor job they are doing running the country. Cuts galore and still not paying any debt down. How would Labour be "paying the debt down" if they were running the country? The Tories may be struggling to get the debt down but it's not for want of trying. What's the alternative? Allow the debt to grow at a much higher rate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrise Posted 5 February, 2013 Share Posted 5 February, 2013 So he's guilty, he's going to get banged up, so what would be a suitable sentence for him? Any more than a year would be over the top IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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