Matthew Le God Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 (edited) We have no more stability today than we had yesterday. Have you read the article? He signed the contract in January 2011. A longer contract makes it less likely he will be sacked as it would cost more to do so. It also puts off other clubs approaching him, as the compensation package would be larger. More importantly, it allows Adkins and the club to plan for the long term as he has relative job security. Neither Adkins or Crosby have moved their family homes down to Hampshire yet, things like this may make them more inclined to do so. A happy and settled employee, generally is a more productive employee. Edited 14 May, 2011 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Have you read the article? He signed the contract in January 2011. A longer contract makes it less likely he will be sacked as it would cost more to do so. It also puts off other clubs approaching him, as the compensation package would be larger. Most importantly, it allows Adkins and the club to plan for the long term as he has relative job security. Neither Adkins or Crosby have moved their family homes down to Hampshire yet, things like this may make them more inclined to do so. A happy and settled employee, generally is a more productive employee. No it doesn't getting results on the pitch makes him less likely to get sacked HTBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 No it doesn't getting results on the pitch makes him less likely to get sacked HTBH Nope, both factors have an influence. They aren't exclusive from each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 At the end of the day Adkins is unproven in the league above. If we're anywhere lower than 16th come christmas he'll be sacked, regardless of the piece of paper he signed three months ago. Good luck to him but he's not the messiah to me yet. Great post (as always.) I hope he does well but is all about performance in the npc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Have you read the article? He signed the contract in January 2011. A longer contract makes it less likely he will be sacked as it would cost more to do so. It also puts off other clubs approaching him, as the compensation package would be larger. More importantly, it allows Adkins and the club to plan for the long term as he has relative job security. Neither Adkins or Crosby have moved their family homes down to Hampshire yet, things like this may make them more inclined to do so. A happy and settled employee, generally is a more productive employee. Liverpool still sacked Rafa and he was on a five year... Less likely sure but not impossible, I'm very happy with this news however don't get me wrong as I'm sure Adkins will romp the championship but whether he can compete in the prem is another thing entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Liverpool still sacked Rafa and he was on a five year... Less likely sure but not impossible There is a big difference between "less likely" and "impossible", I didn't say "impossible" did I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Have you read the article? He signed the contract in January 2011. A longer contract makes it less likely he will be sacked as it would cost more to do so. It also puts off other clubs approaching him, as the compensation package would be larger. More importantly, it allows Adkins and the club to plan for the long term as he has relative job security. Neither Adkins or Crosby have moved their family homes down to Hampshire yet, things like this may make them more inclined to do so. A happy and settled employee, generally is a more productive employee. The usual patronising shi te from you then. No other clubs are going to be interested in Nigel Frigging Adkins, he's not a big name and hasn't actually achieved anything of note yet. If we're doing poo next year he'll be sacked without a minute's notice. Utterly meaningless contract extension. But by all means carry on pretending we're going to be just like Chelsea playing in the champion's league in front of 50,000 regulars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 At the end of the day Adkins is unproven in the league above. Great post (as always.) I hope he does well but is all about performance in the npc. Adkins kept S****horpe United (with a tiny budget compared to every other club) up in the Championship. I'd say that is a proven record at that level and very impressive. Yes, it isn't proven in terms of a promotion campaign in the Championship, but that isn't what was stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Personally I agree with Saint Lard. I'm pleased we've been promoted but I can't see the guy warrants a five year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 This is simply good news. I think there is an excellent opportunity that Adkins will become our Alex Ferguson after a few years in the top flight. That is my hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Personally I agree with Saint Lard. I'm pleased we've been promoted but I can't see the guy warrants a five year contract. what would warrant a 5 year contract in division 3..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 The usual patronising shi te from you then. No other clubs are going to be interested in Nigel Frigging Adkins, he's not a big name and hasn't actually achieved anything of note yet. If we're doing poo next year he'll be sacked without a minute's notice. Utterly meaningless contract extension. But by all means carry on pretending we're going to be just like Chelsea playing in the champion's league in front of 50,000 regulars. "Usual patronising ****e for you" And then you go on and patronise me... Pot, kettle etc You were they one that stated nothing had changed since yesterday in terms of stability, having not read the article this thread is about to see the contract was signed months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Reserved in your admiration? I can't see the slightest hint of admiration for Adkins in any of your posts. If, as you suggest, anyone could and should have got us promoted this season, how about Dean Wilkins? He was doing the job before Adkins came in - are you seriously saying that he would have turned things around in the same way that Adkins did? If not, then your contention, as well as being facile, is also demonstrably wrong. If you present a reasoned argument, it's likely to be met with reasoned responses by most, if not all. But you haven't and don't; you simply twist things around to fit your unchanging, unchangeable view. You decided at the outset that Adkins wasn't the man for the job, and since then have steadfastly refused him any credit for anything achieved and berated him for any number of perceived failings. People do not have a go at you simply because your views differ from theirs; it's because of the way that you express them and your stubborn refusal to change one iota, even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Just look at your first post on this thread as an example - your assumption is plain, that everything will go tits up under Adkins at some point. The fact that he has out-performed all other managers in this division since his appointment cuts no ice with you; in your mind he's not good enough, and all the evidence to the contrary will never sway you. Very much this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 How can any fans not be happy with this news? Strange bunch of fans we have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 How can any fans not be happy with this news? Strange bunch of fans we have! Come Dr Who, you've been on here long enough to know by now that on here for every silver lining there is a cloud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Come Dr Who, you've been on here long enough to know by now that on here for every silver lining there is a cloud. I know but it is so frustrating!! Ok people can have their own opinion but sometimes there is no common sense. What has happened shows support for our manager, that is good for him as it shows faith, and sets the right tone to keep our top players here and it is good for the club. OK it is at this moment in time, but that is all you can do in football and then hope it all turns out well. I know I do not have to tell you this, but really some of are fans are really not all there!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 How can any fans not be happy with this news? Strange bunch of fans we have! +1 I'm amazed at some of the negativity on here, but I guess we shouldn't be surprised anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 what would warrant a 5 year contract in division 3..? Good question. If Adkins could walk on water I don't think he'd merit a five year deal. In five years time the plan is that we're an established Premiership team. To achieve that end we'll need a completely new squad. The players we've got at the moment were excellent in League 1, will do a job in the Championship and won't, a couple of exceptions aside, be able to hack it in the Premiership. I expect the same to apply to the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 "Usual patronising ****e for you" And then you go on and patronise me... Pot, kettle etc You were they one that stated nothing had changed since yesterday in terms of stability, having not read the article this thread is about to see the contract was signed months ago. Why fall for CB Frys aggressive style of posting, like Hypo, Saint Lard, and a few others, they post to inflame other posters, they can't honestly believe the sh1te they write, no true fan would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Good question. If Adkins could walk on water I don't think he'd merit a five year deal. In five years time the plan is that we're an established Premiership team. To achieve that end we'll need a completely new squad. The players we've got at the moment were excellent in League 1, will do a job in the Championship and won't, a couple of exceptions aside, be able to hack it in the Premiership. I expect the same to apply to the manager. did you have the same thought when lallana signed a contract for the same time frame..he has the exact same record in the leagues as his manager.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 (edited) Why fall for CB Frys aggressive style of posting, like Hypo, Saint Lard, and a few others, they post to inflame other posters, they can't honestly believe the sh1te they write, no true fan would. They are simply gutted that they've been shown up to be clueless. Remember, they thought O'Neil was coming and that Adkins was beneath us. Edited 14 May, 2011 by View From The Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 It's not a given, resources and a team full of quality guarantees success. They need to be "managed" by a manager and a good one will do it well which Adkins HAS done so far! So how can "mother Theresa" have done the same?! Flawed reasoning and typical of the same rubbish you can expect to read time and time again from the same posters! Well done Adkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperm_john Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 hes the new strachan ... could even exceed strachan if back to back and does the business in the prem, one step at a time however.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Lol. Give Nige a chance for f*cks sake. He's outperformed all the other managers in the league, and as has been proven many times before, money doesn't guarantee success. I think he's done a great job, and deserves the extension, no matter how superficial it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Let's not forget that, based on performances, Adkins is currently the 2nd best manager in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 The usual patronising shi te from you then. No other clubs are going to be interested in Nigel Frigging Adkins, he's not a big name and hasn't actually achieved anything of note yet. If we're doing poo next year he'll be sacked without a minute's notice. Utterly meaningless contract extension. But by all means carry on pretending we're going to be just like Chelsea playing in the champion's league in front of 50,000 regulars. All hail, the great CB Fry has spoken his infinite wisdom! I think the contract signed in January shows enourmous faith from NC. Promotion wasn't in the bag in the slightest yet he must have seen enough to know he wants NA here for the long term, so I'm not to sure about your opinion touted as fact, that NA will get the sack should we be struggling christmas next year. Que aggressive, patronising reply which will get hypo's panties all moist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Does anyone else imagine CB Fry gnarling his teeth and salivating like an angry bulldog when he posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Let's not forget that, based on performances, Adkins is currently the 2nd best manager in England. second only to Mother Theresa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 did you have the same thought when lallana signed a contract for the same time frame..he has the exact same record in the leagues as his manager.. No Lallana seems like he might have what it takes. Look, let me put it this way. It's 2010. You're a Fulham fan and Liverpool have just poached Roy Hodgson. Who would your rather your Chairman appointed a guy whose done a good job in the lower leagues, like Adkins, or a manager whose got experience of playing and managing in the Premier League with some success and has all the connections? I'd go for Mark Hughes any day and when we get to that stage I reckon we'll need a manager with that sort of background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 No Lallana seems like he might have what it takes. Look, let me put it this way. It's 2010. You're a Fulham fan and Liverpool have just poached Roy Hodgson. Who would your rather your Chairman appointed a guy whose done a good job in the lower leagues, like Adkins, or a manager whose got experience of playing and managing in the Premier League with some success and has all the connections? I'd go for Mark Hughes any day and when we get to that stage I reckon we'll need a manager with that sort of background. If he gets us there then he'll deserve a good crack at it whether he "fits in" or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 No Lallana seems like he might have what it takes. Look, let me put it this way. It's 2010. You're a Fulham fan and Liverpool have just poached Roy Hodgson. Who would your rather your Chairman appointed a guy whose done a good job in the lower leagues, like Adkins, or a manager whose got experience of playing and managing in the Premier League with some success and has all the connections? I'd go for Mark Hughes any day and when we get to that stage I reckon we'll need a manager with that sort of background. so, adkins has the same record in the leagues but you have already decided he does not have what it takes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 This seems like the stability some of us have been craving, long term ambitious chairman with a long term manager, can only be good for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 This will end up costing us a packet when it goes t1ts up. Look on the bright side, you might be dead before that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 No Lallana seems like he might have what it takes. Look, let me put it this way. It's 2010. You're a Fulham fan and Liverpool have just poached Roy Hodgson. Who would your rather your Chairman appointed a guy whose done a good job in the lower leagues, like Adkins, or a manager whose got experience of playing and managing in the Premier League with some success and has all the connections? I'd go for Mark Hughes any day and when we get to that stage I reckon we'll need a manager with that sort of background. Very poor analogy. Fulham were an established Premier League club, who needed to replace a successful manager, whereas we will be a newly-promoted side with a very successful manager in situ. Are you suggesting that Adkins should be immediately replaced if he gets us into the Premier League, on the basis that he hasn't managed at that level before? That would be a fine reward for winning us two promotions. And how exactly does any manager gain top-level experience? Not every ex-player can get a first managerial job at that level, and several who have done so have failed pretty miserably. It's entirely possible that an established manager, with a record of success at his current club (which Adkins will unquestionably have if he gets us up to the Premier League) will continue to succeed at a higher level. If Adkins does flounder at that level, then he'll doubtless be removed swiftly and without ceremony; but that's a different matter altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Why fall for CB Frys aggressive style of posting, like Hypo, Saint Lard, and a few others, they post to inflame other posters, they can't honestly believe the sh1te they write, no true fan would. I don't think it is an act. I think he genuinely dislikes me, even though we have never met, this is an internet message-board and really not something to get angry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Good news... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 (edited) ... Edited 14 May, 2011 by RonManager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 I don't think AP would have got us promoted, and did notice the difference Adkins has made. I really do hope he stays for the long term and I think he will due to his working relationship with NC. Good news then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Adkins will take us up again, given enough time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 They are simply gutted that they've been shown up to be clueless. Remember, they thought O'Neil was coming and that Adkins was beneath us. Wrong,if you look back i started the thread reference a new manager and it indicated that Zola had been contacted,this was from the same source that put me onto Guly signing,which i announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Four and a half years !. That rather ****es on my bonfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 When was the last time we had a manager for three seasons or more? History tells us that Adkins will probably not make it through to next summer. I hope that Cortese has the patience to give Saints the continuity they have lacked for decades. The new contract is a really good confidence boost for Adkins, and a bold statement by Cortese, but he is still very ambitious and therefore ruthless. A bad start I fear would see Adkins gone, contract or not. And God knows that if we aren't top by October 99% of the posters on here will be spotting O'Neill in St. Mary's car park. Though, as I said before, given enough time Adkins would get us into the Premiership. IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 /\ Spot on, i think he is the man to get us into the PL. Now what i'd like to see is him back in the transfer market to bring in the 4 or 5 quality championship players to improve on what we already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmusicdude Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 I heard and saw the proclomations of how we were going to endevour to play,yet we rarely scaled those heights,on occasions we managed to play to a higher standard but invariably for less than the duration of half a game. This was more than evident,when many remarked we had to up our game in the second half due to being attrociously **** poor in the first. Did you read the original post or just commented on it blindly? But here you kinda help those who disagree with you .. If he was just a "normal" or OK manager .. how would he manage to push us on in the second half to perform better? AND how many times did he change tactics & we got a result? However all that said your right up to a point, we still dont know just what level of "good" he is .. it might be that as we now try & push on to better things that he struggles .. I don't know & nor do you but I am prepared to wait & see. either way he took us up & for that I am please & happy with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Why fall for CB Frys aggressive style of posting, like Hypo, Saint Lard, and a few others, they post to inflame other posters, they can't honestly believe the sh1te they write, no true fan would. CBFRY has no credibility whatsoever. Most of his comments have little substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Wrong,if you look back i started the thread reference a new manager and it indicated that Zola had been contacted,this was from the same source that put me onto Guly signing,which i announced. So thinking Zola would come to a L1 club is better in some way than thinking O'Neil would? How very odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 So thinking Zola would come to a L1 club is better in some way than thinking O'Neil would? How very odd. bet he is still upset about Adkins being first choice http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Roman-Abramovich-wants-club-legend-Gianfranco-Zola-to-return-to-Chelsea-as-a-member-of-the-coaching-staff-next-season-and-wants-Guus-Hiddink-as-manager-article733979.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 Two things tie together quite strongly about these posters that have no praise for Adkins: 1. They clearly come from a background or upbringing where praise was/is absent. In some cases, it may even have been seen as something of a weakness to give praise. This has carried through to adulthood. 2. Their aggressive posting styles match neatly with this, as they are clearly trying to get attention. Like kids in schools who play up because of a lack of attention at home, any attention is good for these people as bad attention is at least some sort of attention. Perhaps they lacked attention in their upbringing too. I know this is the case with me, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 The usual patronising shi te from you then. No other clubs are going to be interested in Nigel Frigging Adkins, he's not a big name and hasn't actually achieved anything of note yet. If we're doing poo next year he'll be sacked without a minute's notice. Utterly meaningless contract extension. But by all means carry on pretending we're going to be just like Chelsea playing in the champion's league in front of 50,000 regulars. You've obviously got a load of stick for all that, but nothing posted there is wrong. I like Adkins, I'm pleased he's with us and I'm looking forward to next season, but the hard work really starts now, finishing 2nd given the resources available to us isn't a massive achievement. Lets look forward to see what he can do with decent resources in the Championship.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 14 May, 2011 Share Posted 14 May, 2011 not massive, but big achievement considering head start other clubs had and Huddersfield's form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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