The9 Posted 22 May, 2011 Share Posted 22 May, 2011 If you already have a card that's maxed out should you be getting a season ticket or going to footie too often anyway? It's a discretionary spend FFS. As someone else has pointed out £500 is a lot of money to some people, so that's why they should be saving now, given the opportunity. Get a money box even, if that helps you budget; come back from the pub having had a pint less than usual pop £2/3 in the jar. Forego that takeaway and cook yourself something even if you're feeling a bit tired, pop in a fiver. Most of us have had lean times at one stage or another and have had to prioritise. If going to the football is a priority, prioritise it and _do_ something about it, but the constant moaning on here is child-like. This does imply that people aren't already saving, or spending everything they earn on essentials, or paying off debts they have already accrued to get themselves out of debt they were already in, of course. FWIW, I'm one of the ones who said last year that people don't have the right to complain if they haven't saved the money, because we expect there not to be an instalment plan this year, and I stand by that - but some of the "just get a credit card" planks just don't seem to have gathered the issues that others may be having, or that they might not want to add to them and it's frankly rather insensitive to suggest there's an "easy solution" that anyone can get. I don't have a credit card at the moment, btw, but I don't think I'll be getting one just to pay for a season ticket either ! I think the bigger picture is that a lot of people can afford, say, a payment of £60 a month for about 8 months to come straight out on pay day without it being a problem because their funds for the rest of the month are then fixed from that point, but setting aside £40 for 12 months without dipping into it come the end of the month to pay bills and unexpected costs is a lot less workable for a lot of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 23 May, 2011 Share Posted 23 May, 2011 Yeah, well done, and I'm pointing out that a lot MORE people will either have already tried this and not be able to do it again, or will have not been able to do it in the first place. The "can't afford to pay in one chunk nor just extend their overdraft and don't already have a credit card but still actually able to get one" subset of the fan base is probably minute compared to the "can't do any of those" group. Basically you'll either have a spare £500 AND be able to get credit, or you won't have the money and you probably can't. In your reply to Suewhistle you’ve described me, and possibly others who have made the same suggestion (I don’t know if others have as I haven’t read the whole thread) as a “plank”. All I’ve done is suggest this as an option, but thanks for the insult anyway. I’ve not said it’s the only, or even an “easy” option, I’m perfectly well aware that getting a credit card is not viable for some (may be “many”, I don’t have the exact figures). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 When it was announced there was to be no installment plan, which Mrs LS and I had used to get our season tickets on, that first time was a bit of a financial stretch to purchase our 2 tickets. However everyone is now fully aware that the installment plan is unlikely to return so people should have no argument with the club this year, if they have not prepared. It's is a bit like saying that you were unaware that Christmas was coming. Has anyone any idea when the ticket prices are likely to be announced please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 season tickets are one option, paying in installments and buying ticket each week is another. when I was younger I couldn't afford a season ticket, and I didn't have a credit card. what was worse though, there was no internet forum where I could moan so I just had to buy a ticket for each game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
September Saint Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 There are a few credit cards that are offering 0% interest on purchases. Alternatively buy on one card, get another card that offers 0% on balance transfers and transfer across asap Build your own installment plan - Sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StVince1966 Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 price of season tick depends on michael owens contract thats why there has been no announcement yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 price of season tick depends on michael owens contract thats why there has been no announcement yet? No - it's because "Margeret" said there won't be any - obviously. And Michael's not coming. And as a season ticket holder I am superior to you. Anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I cant understand why the club dont seem to be to be encouraging as many fans as they can through the doors? As others have pointed out,the more fans at the game,the more food,drink,merchandise the fans buy,thus the more money Saints make. And more importainly,if you have a full stadium shouting support for Saints to win,surely it will lift the players and sometimes can make the difference.The atmosphere is definately better with more fans anyway. I aways tend to gauge the way things effect Saints by how the same things effect my footy crowd.I believe my friends cover every group across the board and they all have different levels of wages,incomes and opinions concerning Saints.I mention this because two of our group have recently lost their jobs due to not fault of their own and are wondering wether or not to use their pay-offs to get STs this year. An installment plan would almost guarantee they would,but if they have to stump up a large amount up front,then they wont.With a ST,they wont be bothered to go to as many games,so the club will lose out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonian Posted 24 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 24 May, 2011 I cant understand why the club dont seem to be to be encouraging as many fans as they can through the doors? As others have pointed out,the more fans at the game,the more food,drink,merchandise the fans buy,thus the more money Saints make. And more importainly,if you have a full stadium shouting support for Saints to win,surely it will lift the players and sometimes can make the difference.The atmosphere is definately better with more fans anyway. I aways tend to gauge the way things effect Saints by how the same things effect my footy crowd.I believe my friends cover every group across the board and they all have different levels of wages,incomes and opinions concerning Saints.I mention this because two of our group have recently lost their jobs due to not fault of their own and are wondering wether or not to use their pay-offs to get STs this year. An installment plan would almost guarantee they would,but if they have to stump up a large amount up front,then they wont.With a ST,they wont be bothered to go to as many games,so the club will lose out. so true, with an instalment plan we will have over 20,000 season ticket holders, with an average gate of 28,000 + without an instalment plan the average gate will be under 25,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 Absolutely right. At the end of the day it's League 2 football Division 2 or League 2? Christ things would be really bad if we were in League 2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 May, 2011 Share Posted 24 May, 2011 In your reply to Suewhistle you’ve described me, and possibly others who have made the same suggestion (I don’t know if others have as I haven’t read the whole thread) as a “plank”. All I’ve done is suggest this as an option, but thanks for the insult anyway. I’ve not said it’s the only, or even an “easy” option, I’m perfectly well aware that getting a credit card is not viable for some (may be “many”, I don’t have the exact figures). Yeah, fair enough, I've re-read it and it does seem more like a suggestion, sorry about that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Yeah, fair enough, I've re-read it and it does seem more like a suggestion, sorry about that ! Apology accepted. No probs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 so true, with an instalment plan we will have over 20,000 season ticket holders, with an average gate of 28,000 + without an instalment plan the average gate will be under 25,000 hen was the last time we averaged over 28000 in the championship, with or without instalmant plans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Definition of Poverty 1901 - no shoes or socks 1950 - no internal bathroon or toilet 1970 - no TV 2000 - no mobile phone 2011 - no Saints season ticket on free credit I'm sure we will have instalment schemes again once we have the plastic bar codes for entry. The lack of an instalment scheme presently is down to those who abused the old system - cancelling their Direct Debit once they got the ticket. They moved around the empty seats once inside the stadium so there was no way of identifying them. There were hundreds of people involved in the scam and effectively they stole from club - screwing it up for legitimate supporters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Wilts Saint Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Been much coverage of QPR hiking prices by 40% from last year now they are in the Prem. Adults starts at £549 and go up to £999 (and of course less games). http://t.co/rBdfu73, so if Saints planning was the same way would see big hike this year to facilatate possible promotion price increases without looking astronomical ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Apology accepted. No probs. The 9 did call your Mum a slag though. I reckon you should both meet and sort it out man to man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 There were hundreds of people involved in the scam and effectively they stole from club - screwing it up for legitimate supporters No there wasn't. Think there was something like less than 30 people who actually did this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Definition of Poverty 1901 - no shoes or socks 1950 - no internal bathroon or toilet 1970 - no TV 2000 - no mobile phone 2011 - no Saints season ticket on free credit I'm sure we will have instalment schemes again once we have the plastic bar codes for entry. The lack of an instalment scheme presently is down to those who abused the old system - cancelling their Direct Debit once they got the ticket. They moved around the empty seats once inside the stadium so there was no way of identifying them. There were hundreds of people involved in the scam and effectively they stole from club - screwing it up for legitimate supporters There were 28 people involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 The 9 did call your Mum a slag though. I reckon you should both meet and sort it out man to man. Have you met my mum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Blah blah.. Why don't you save like the majority of people do, plan ahead then there isn't any need for a instalment plan. Altenitivly do a 'pay as you go' approach. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozz Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Also (for the sake of clarity) there was no direct debit involved in the 09/10 scheme, rather payment card (debit or credit) details were saved at the point of initial payment and reused for the remaining installments. As such it wouldn't have been a straight forward 'cancel the direct debit' and would more likely be people cancelling a card entirely or the card expiring and the customer failing to notify the club of an alternative payment method (which could have been avoided by a check at point of sale). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Been much coverage of QPR hiking prices by 40% from last year now they are in the Prem. Adults starts at £549 and go up to £999 (and of course less games). http://t.co/rBdfu73, so if Saints planning was the same way would see big hike this year to facilatate possible promotion price increases without looking astronomical ? Very tough on those who stuck with rangers through their bad times ( quite a while now). Still plastics can get in at Fulham for under £400. tHere is a point where football, however much you love it, just isn't worth the money.most games just aren't worth £30. £30 is a lot of beer/wine/cd's/food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 There were 28 people involved. I thought the feedback from the Club (via one of those dinners???) was "hundreds"????? Where did you get your 28 figure from??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Blackburn and Wigan have extremely cheap season tickets next season but I assume that's due to their small fanbase and the economic climate oop north? Blackburn - £225 - http://www.rovers.co.uk/page/SeasonTickets/0,,10303,00.html Wigan - £270 for adult and child - http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/page/SeasonTickets/0,,10429~2038803,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Leeds prices are high. Renewals = http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110101/season-ticket-renewals-201112_2247585_2254932 New = http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110511/new-season-ticket-prices-released_2247585_2357296 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Leeds prices are high. Renewals = http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110101/season-ticket-renewals-201112_2247585_2254932 New = http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110511/new-season-ticket-prices-released_2247585_2357296 Wow. That is mega high. Hope ours are at least 150 off those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Blah blah.. Why don't you save like the majority of people do, plan ahead then there isn't any need for a instalment plan. Altenitivly do a 'pay as you go' approach. Simples. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 25 May, 2011 Share Posted 25 May, 2011 Blackburn and Wigan have extremely cheap season tickets next season but I assume that's due to their small fanbase and the economic climate oop north? Blackburn - £225 - http://www.rovers.co.uk/page/SeasonTickets/0,,10303,00.html Wigan - £270 for adult and child - http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/page/SeasonTickets/0,,10429~2038803,00.html that is so cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 Leeds prices are high. Renewals = http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110101/season-ticket-renewals-201112_2247585_2254932 New = http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110511/new-season-ticket-prices-released_2247585_2357296 Ken Bates realises that a certain percentage of fans will take almost any punishment throw at them so just charges pretty much what he can get away with. I guess the fans could just walk away, but that's not easy to do. I feel for their lot. Wonder if that will happen down here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 Leeds prices are high. Renewals = http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110101/season-ticket-renewals-201112_2247585_2254932 New = http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110511/new-season-ticket-prices-released_2247585_2357296 That is steep. I'm getting very impatient about our wait for renewals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 Leeds prices are high. Renewals = http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110101/season-ticket-renewals-201112_2247585_2254932 New = http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110511/new-season-ticket-prices-released_2247585_2357296 Obscene. £750 for an east or west stand ticket for championship football FFS. It's a total rip off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 Obscene. £750 for an east or west stand ticket for championship football FFS. It's a total rip off. This, Arsenal only charge an extra £250 for their basic ST don't they? Still, by the way, a disgusting amount of money to watch football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 Obscene. £750 for an east or west stand ticket for championship football FFS. It's a total rip off. Agreed. Which is why I wouldn't buy one at that price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 26 May, 2011 Share Posted 26 May, 2011 This is from Reading FC's mail to me: (I took membership for £1 when I was working at Green Park, by the Madjeski.) Season tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. If Saints offer those prices, I'll sign up immediately. Season tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. I Season tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. ISeason tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwiz Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 This is from Reading FC's mail to me: (I took membership for £1 when I was working at Green Park, by the Madjeski.) Season tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. If Saints offer those prices, I'll sign up immediately. Season tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. I Season tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. ISeason tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. I Not a chance mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 This is from Reading FC's mail to me: (I took membership for £1 when I was working at Green Park, by the Madjeski.) Season tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. If Saints offer those prices, I'll sign up immediately. Season tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. I Season tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. ISeason tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. I Reading are excellent value for money, they also offered those prices regardless of promotion and now find themselves in the play off final! I work with a lad who is based in Bracknell who having moved over from Germany a couple of years ago wanted to get into going to football again and has snapped up a couple of season tickets for him and his son, I am told Reading have also been giving away a lot of free tickets at Andover soccer school this year Saints have to realise other clubs in our catchment area are offering better value deals which we should be competiting with to fill the ground, surely we all want to see crowds close to sold out next year. If we go down the Leeds approach there is no way I would be getting a season ticket, £750 for the 2nd division is an absolute scandal, especially when they have so many seats to fill. Fair play to Wigan and Blackburn who realise it is better to have a decent crowd in with cheap tickets than small crowds at “premiership” prices. Both of them cheaper than us in the 3rd division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 £750 for a season ticket works out at £32 a game, as this is likely dicounted price, non season ticket holders at Leeds can expect to pay around £38 a match next season for Championship football, an absolute disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 £750 for a season ticket works out at £32 a game, as this is likely dicounted price, non season ticket holders at Leeds can expect to pay around £38 a match next season for Championship football, an absolute disgrace. £38 is outrageous. What division do they think they're in?! 09/10 it was £29 for a ticket in the cheese wedge, with the worst view and appalling leg-room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfclegend Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 anyone else think that we may have a car which you scan? would save money in the long run, and would be able to offer installment plan, if it isn't paid for it will reject you on the door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 The 9 did call your Mum a slag though. I reckon you should both meet and sort it out man to man. LOLz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 Also (for the sake of clarity) there was no direct debit involved in the 09/10 scheme, rather payment card (debit or credit) details were saved at the point of initial payment and reused for the remaining installments. As such it wouldn't have been a straight forward 'cancel the direct debit' and would more likely be people cancelling a card entirely or the card expiring and the customer failing to notify the club of an alternative payment method (which could have been avoided by a check at point of sale). You're right, as my card expired literally days after the STs went on sale. I got a letter saying something about card being declined and phoned them up to point out that I gave them the expiry date when I bought the ST and why didn't anyone mention it then. Gave them the new card details and no further problems. A DD would have come straight out of the account without the card changeover being an issue. The key to it being that I had the ST in my possession by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 Fair play to Wigan and Blackburn who realise it is better to have a decent crowd in with cheap tickets than small crowds at “premiership” prices. Both of them cheaper than us in the 3rd division. They do receive a share of the television rights alone for the period 2010-2013 which are worth £1.782 billion though, so they can afford to be generous. Even in 2006 the average Premier League team receives £45 million a season compared to a million for Championship clubs and that was prior to the enormous overseas deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 jordansibley: Just had confirmation of details for two pre-season fixtures. Will be up on the official site within the next 30 mins #saintsfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 anyone else think that we may have a car which you scan? would have to widen the turnstiles though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 They do receive a share of the television rights alone for the period 2010-2013 which are worth £1.782 billion though, so they can afford to be generous. Even in 2006 the average Premier League team receives £45 million a season compared to a million for Championship clubs and that was prior to the enormous overseas deal. that's not quite how it works. if teams "can afford to be generous" than the man city etc would reduce prices as it would be meaningless to them, those clubs deserve a lot of credit for bucking the trend and offering affordable top flight football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 This, Arsenal only charge an extra £250 for their basic ST don't they? Still, by the way, a disgusting amount of money to watch football. Apparently that includes all cup and Euro games too so it may well be cheaper to watch arsenal per game than Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 May, 2011 Share Posted 27 May, 2011 £750 for a season ticket works out at £32 a game, as this is likely dicounted price, non season ticket holders at Leeds can expect to pay around £38 a match next season for Championship football, an absolute disgrace. A friend who I go to Leeds with has had enough. he's a member but they emailed to him to say he wasn't eligible for the play-off final (if they had got there) because he hasn't got enough away games on his account, but he can't get tickets for away games because they are always taken before he become eligible. He can't win. He's not goning to bother with a membership next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 surprised no news or even OS headline "ST prices to be announced on ...... " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 Is there anyone NOT expecting the ST news today ? It was this date a year ago IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 It was 14th June last year. According to this anyway; http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2062493,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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