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If you already have a card that's maxed out should you be getting a season ticket or going to footie too often anyway? It's a discretionary spend FFS.

 

As someone else has pointed out £500 is a lot of money to some people, so that's why they should be saving now, given the opportunity. Get a money box even, if that helps you budget; come back from the pub having had a pint less than usual pop £2/3 in the jar. Forego that takeaway and cook yourself something even if you're feeling a bit tired, pop in a fiver. Most of us have had lean times at one stage or another and have had to prioritise. If going to the football is a priority, prioritise it and _do_ something about it, but the constant moaning on here is child-like.

 

This does imply that people aren't already saving, or spending everything they earn on essentials, or paying off debts they have already accrued to get themselves out of debt they were already in, of course.

 

FWIW, I'm one of the ones who said last year that people don't have the right to complain if they haven't saved the money, because we expect there not to be an instalment plan this year, and I stand by that - but some of the "just get a credit card" planks just don't seem to have gathered the issues that others may be having, or that they might not want to add to them and it's frankly rather insensitive to suggest there's an "easy solution" that anyone can get.

 

I don't have a credit card at the moment, btw, but I don't think I'll be getting one just to pay for a season ticket either !

 

I think the bigger picture is that a lot of people can afford, say, a payment of £60 a month for about 8 months to come straight out on pay day without it being a problem because their funds for the rest of the month are then fixed from that point, but setting aside £40 for 12 months without dipping into it come the end of the month to pay bills and unexpected costs is a lot less workable for a lot of people.

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Yeah, well done, and I'm pointing out that a lot MORE people will either have already tried this and not be able to do it again, or will have not been able to do it in the first place.

 

The "can't afford to pay in one chunk nor just extend their overdraft and don't already have a credit card but still actually able to get one" subset of the fan base is probably minute compared to the "can't do any of those" group.

 

Basically you'll either have a spare £500 AND be able to get credit, or you won't have the money and you probably can't.

 

In your reply to Suewhistle you’ve described me, and possibly others who have made the same suggestion (I don’t know if others have as I haven’t read the whole thread) as a “plank”. All I’ve done is suggest this as an option, but thanks for the insult anyway. I’ve not said it’s the only, or even an “easy” option, I’m perfectly well aware that getting a credit card is not viable for some (may be “many”, I don’t have the exact figures).

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When it was announced there was to be no installment plan, which Mrs LS and I had used to get our season tickets on, that first time was a bit of a financial stretch to purchase our 2 tickets. However everyone is now fully aware that the installment plan is unlikely to return so people should have no argument with the club this year, if they have not prepared. It's is a bit like saying that you were unaware that Christmas was coming.

 

Has anyone any idea when the ticket prices are likely to be announced please?

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season tickets are one option, paying in installments and buying ticket each week is another.

 

when I was younger I couldn't afford a season ticket, and I didn't have a credit card.

 

what was worse though, there was no internet forum where I could moan so I just had to buy a ticket for each game.

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price of season tick depends on michael owens contract thats why there has been no announcement yet?

 

No - it's because "Margeret" said there won't be any - obviously.

 

And Michael's not coming.

 

And as a season ticket holder I am superior to you.

 

Anything else?

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I cant understand why the club dont seem to be to be encouraging as many fans as they can through the doors?

As others have pointed out,the more fans at the game,the more food,drink,merchandise the fans buy,thus the more money Saints make.

And more importainly,if you have a full stadium shouting support for Saints to win,surely it will lift the players and sometimes can make the difference.The atmosphere is definately better with more fans anyway.

I aways tend to gauge the way things effect Saints by how the same things effect my footy crowd.I believe my friends cover every group across the board and they all have different levels of wages,incomes and opinions concerning Saints.I mention this because two of our group have recently lost their jobs due to not fault of their own and are wondering wether or not to use their pay-offs to get STs this year.

An installment plan would almost guarantee they would,but if they have to stump up a large amount up front,then they wont.With a ST,they wont be bothered to go to as many games,so the club will lose out.

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I cant understand why the club dont seem to be to be encouraging as many fans as they can through the doors?

As others have pointed out,the more fans at the game,the more food,drink,merchandise the fans buy,thus the more money Saints make.

And more importainly,if you have a full stadium shouting support for Saints to win,surely it will lift the players and sometimes can make the difference.The atmosphere is definately better with more fans anyway.

I aways tend to gauge the way things effect Saints by how the same things effect my footy crowd.I believe my friends cover every group across the board and they all have different levels of wages,incomes and opinions concerning Saints.I mention this because two of our group have recently lost their jobs due to not fault of their own and are wondering wether or not to use their pay-offs to get STs this year.

An installment plan would almost guarantee they would,but if they have to stump up a large amount up front,then they wont.With a ST,they wont be bothered to go to as many games,so the club will lose out.

 

so true, with an instalment plan we will have over 20,000 season ticket holders, with an average gate of 28,000 +

 

without an instalment plan the average gate will be under 25,000

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In your reply to Suewhistle you’ve described me, and possibly others who have made the same suggestion (I don’t know if others have as I haven’t read the whole thread) as a “plank”. All I’ve done is suggest this as an option, but thanks for the insult anyway. I’ve not said it’s the only, or even an “easy” option, I’m perfectly well aware that getting a credit card is not viable for some (may be “many”, I don’t have the exact figures).

 

Yeah, fair enough, I've re-read it and it does seem more like a suggestion, sorry about that !

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so true, with an instalment plan we will have over 20,000 season ticket holders, with an average gate of 28,000 +

 

without an instalment plan the average gate will be under 25,000

 

hen was the last time we averaged over 28000 in the championship, with or without instalmant plans?

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Definition of Poverty

1901 - no shoes or socks

1950 - no internal bathroon or toilet

1970 - no TV

2000 - no mobile phone

2011 - no Saints season ticket on free credit

 

I'm sure we will have instalment schemes again once we have the plastic bar codes for entry. The lack of an instalment scheme presently is down to those who abused the old system - cancelling their Direct Debit once they got the ticket. They moved around the empty seats once inside the stadium so there was no way of identifying them. There were hundreds of people involved in the scam and effectively they stole from club - screwing it up for legitimate supporters

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Definition of Poverty

1901 - no shoes or socks

1950 - no internal bathroon or toilet

1970 - no TV

2000 - no mobile phone

2011 - no Saints season ticket on free credit

 

I'm sure we will have instalment schemes again once we have the plastic bar codes for entry. The lack of an instalment scheme presently is down to those who abused the old system - cancelling their Direct Debit once they got the ticket. They moved around the empty seats once inside the stadium so there was no way of identifying them. There were hundreds of people involved in the scam and effectively they stole from club - screwing it up for legitimate supporters

There were 28 people involved.

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Blah blah.. Why don't you save like the majority of people do, plan ahead then there isn't any need for a instalment plan.

Altenitivly do a 'pay as you go' approach.

Simples.

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Also (for the sake of clarity) there was no direct debit involved in the 09/10 scheme, rather payment card (debit or credit) details were saved at the point of initial payment and reused for the remaining installments.

 

As such it wouldn't have been a straight forward 'cancel the direct debit' and would more likely be people cancelling a card entirely or the card expiring and the customer failing to notify the club of an alternative payment method (which could have been avoided by a check at point of sale).

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Been much coverage of QPR hiking prices by 40% from last year now they are in the Prem. Adults starts at £549 and go up to £999 (and of course less games).

http://t.co/rBdfu73, so if Saints planning was the same way would see big hike this year to facilatate possible promotion price increases without looking astronomical ?

 

Very tough on those who stuck with rangers through their bad times ( quite a while now). Still plastics can get in at Fulham for under £400.

 

tHere is a point where football, however much you love it, just isn't worth the money.most games just aren't worth £30. £30 is a lot of beer/wine/cd's/food.

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Ken Bates realises that a certain percentage of fans will take almost any punishment throw at them so just charges pretty much what he can get away with. I guess the fans could just walk away, but that's not easy to do. I feel for their lot. Wonder if that will happen down here?

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This is from Reading FC's mail to me: (I took membership for £1 when I was working at Green Park, by the Madjeski.)

 

Season tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250.

 

If Saints offer those prices, I'll sign up immediately.

Season tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. I

Season tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. ISeason tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. I

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This is from Reading FC's mail to me: (I took membership for £1 when I was working at Green Park, by the Madjeski.)

 

Season tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250.

 

If Saints offer those prices, I'll sign up immediately.

Season tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. I

Season tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. ISeason tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. I

 

Not a chance mate

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This is from Reading FC's mail to me: (I took membership for £1 when I was working at Green Park, by the Madjeski.)

 

Season tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250.

 

If Saints offer those prices, I'll sign up immediately.

Season tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. I

Season tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. ISeason tickets represent excellent value - adult season tickets start at £395, while young fans aged 16 & under pay just £99 and other concessions are from £250. I

 

Reading are excellent value for money, they also offered those prices regardless of promotion and now find themselves in the play off final! I work with a lad who is based in Bracknell who having moved over from Germany a couple of years ago wanted to get into going to football again and has snapped up a couple of season tickets for him and his son, I am told Reading have also been giving away a lot of free tickets at Andover soccer school this year

 

Saints have to realise other clubs in our catchment area are offering better value deals which we should be competiting with to fill the ground, surely we all want to see crowds close to sold out next year.

 

If we go down the Leeds approach there is no way I would be getting a season ticket, £750 for the 2nd division is an absolute scandal, especially when they have so many seats to fill.

 

Fair play to Wigan and Blackburn who realise it is better to have a decent crowd in with cheap tickets than small crowds at “premiership” prices. Both of them cheaper than us in the 3rd division.

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£750 for a season ticket works out at £32 a game, as this is likely dicounted price, non season ticket holders at Leeds can expect to pay around £38 a match next season for Championship football, an absolute disgrace.

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£750 for a season ticket works out at £32 a game, as this is likely dicounted price, non season ticket holders at Leeds can expect to pay around £38 a match next season for Championship football, an absolute disgrace.

 

£38 is outrageous. What division do they think they're in?! 09/10 it was £29 for a ticket in the cheese wedge, with the worst view and appalling leg-room.

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Also (for the sake of clarity) there was no direct debit involved in the 09/10 scheme, rather payment card (debit or credit) details were saved at the point of initial payment and reused for the remaining installments.

 

As such it wouldn't have been a straight forward 'cancel the direct debit' and would more likely be people cancelling a card entirely or the card expiring and the customer failing to notify the club of an alternative payment method (which could have been avoided by a check at point of sale).

 

You're right, as my card expired literally days after the STs went on sale. I got a letter saying something about card being declined and phoned them up to point out that I gave them the expiry date when I bought the ST and why didn't anyone mention it then. Gave them the new card details and no further problems. A DD would have come straight out of the account without the card changeover being an issue.

 

The key to it being that I had the ST in my possession by then.

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Fair play to Wigan and Blackburn who realise it is better to have a decent crowd in with cheap tickets than small crowds at “premiership” prices. Both of them cheaper than us in the 3rd division.

 

They do receive a share of the television rights alone for the period 2010-2013 which are worth £1.782 billion though, so they can afford to be generous. Even in 2006 the average Premier League team receives £45 million a season compared to a million for Championship clubs and that was prior to the enormous overseas deal.

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They do receive a share of the television rights alone for the period 2010-2013 which are worth £1.782 billion though, so they can afford to be generous. Even in 2006 the average Premier League team receives £45 million a season compared to a million for Championship clubs and that was prior to the enormous overseas deal.

 

that's not quite how it works. if teams "can afford to be generous" than the man city etc would reduce prices as it would be meaningless to them, those clubs deserve a lot of credit for bucking the trend and offering affordable top flight football.

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This, Arsenal only charge an extra £250 for their basic ST don't they? Still, by the way, a disgusting amount of money to watch football.

 

Apparently that includes all cup and Euro games too so it may well be cheaper to watch arsenal per game than Leeds.

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£750 for a season ticket works out at £32 a game, as this is likely dicounted price, non season ticket holders at Leeds can expect to pay around £38 a match next season for Championship football, an absolute disgrace.

 

A friend who I go to Leeds with has had enough. he's a member but they emailed to him to say he wasn't eligible for the play-off final (if they had got there) because he hasn't got enough away games on his account, but he can't get tickets for away games because they are always taken before he become eligible. He can't win. He's not goning to bother with a membership next season.

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