Thedelldays Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 There are few walks of life where people are keen to pay for something as soon as possible. Welcome to the half-baked brain of the football fan... lol I wonder if he is as keen to pay his council tax bill for the next financial year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 It's weird. I'm not trying to snipe at anyone but: 1) ST will be on sale sometime between now and the start of August. If you have the money to buy it now, why the impatience? If you don't have the money to buy it now then surely the later the sale window opens the better. 2) You know roughly what it will cost. It will cost between 100% and 120% of whatever it cost this year. You don't need the price to be published in order to budget, more or less, for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 It's weird. I'm not trying to snipe at anyone but: 1) ST will be on sale sometime between now and the start of August. If you have the money to buy it now, why the impatience? If you don't have the money to buy it now then surely the later the sale window opens the better. 2) You know roughly what it will cost. It will cost between 100% and 120% of whatever it cost this year. You don't need the price to be published in order to budget, more or less, for it. no one can really argue with that I dont think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 no one can really argue with that I dont think I am sure they can on here!!! lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 I don't see how makes good business sense to not have them on sale now. Surely the earlier they go on sale the better when the feel good factor is up? Maybe they are still working out the best pricing policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 I don't see how makes good business sense to not have them on sale now. Surely the earlier they go on sale the better when the feel good factor is up? Maybe they are still working out the best pricing policy. im sure the powers at be are on the pulse with this one....dont you think..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 No i dont think - pathetic disregard for fams not to have anything on site even if announcement will be made end of May. Same last year and you mugs lap it up. Communication is dreadful at the club and that idiot Sibley with his teasing tweets. We are Saints we do as we're told and are grateful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 Basically agree with this' date=' only danger in a policy not to encourage season tickets is that it relies entirely on doing well on the pitch. Yes we should do well but football is a competitive sport and end results are arrived at by many things, some of which are a gamble[/quote'] Fair point and theory, but in the season just finished the crowds didn't really increase that much even in the run-in, I was a bit disappointed with the crowds in the last few months - Walsall excepted. Whilst we may not have cash flow issues, I can't see why we don't put STs on sale right away with the feel-good factor. It would also be good if there was some expectation of when the renewal period will be each year (other than May - Aug), rather than the current guesswork and speculation. If people don't get a ST, they quite often don't end up going to as many games as they think they will, and the club ultimately loses out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmusicdude Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 No i dont think - pathetic disregard for fams not to have anything on site even if announcement will be made end of May. Same last year and you mugs lap it up. Communication is dreadful at the club and that idiot Sibley with his teasing tweets. We are Saints we do as we're told and are grateful Why is it? 1) you have a pretty much good idea of approx cost 2) They'll prob want to know the clubs in division once we go up ( they will have a price structure related to this) 3) Those that have asked have had mails back saying it'll be late may ( after all the play off's) 4) I think the club has laid out it's stall pretty much it's more interested in single sales ( they make MUCH more money .. that's there job! so whats the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 No i dont think - pathetic disregard for fams not to have anything on site even if announcement will be made end of May. Same last year and you mugs lap it up. Communication is dreadful at the club and that idiot Sibley with his teasing tweets. We are Saints we do as we're told and are grateful umm It's weird. I'm not trying to snipe at anyone but: 1) ST will be on sale sometime between now and the start of August. If you have the money to buy it now, why the impatience? If you don't have the money to buy it now then surely the later the sale window opens the better. 2) You know roughly what it will cost. It will cost between 100% and 120% of whatever it cost this year. You don't need the price to be published in order to budget, more or less, for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 No i dont think - pathetic disregard for fams not to have anything on site even if announcement will be made end of May. Same last year and you mugs lap it up. Communication is dreadful at the club and that idiot Sibley with his teasing tweets. We are Saints we do as we're told and are grateful Why does it matter? It sits in your bank account longer this way. Engage that brain, actually on second thoughts, don't bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 It's weird. I'm not trying to snipe at anyone but: 1) ST will be on sale sometime between now and the start of August. If you have the money to buy it now, why the impatience? If you don't have the money to buy it now then surely the later the sale window opens the better. 2) You know roughly what it will cost. It will cost between 100% and 120% of whatever it cost this year. You don't need the price to be published in order to budget, more or less, for it. No i dont think - pathetic disregard for fams not to have anything on site even if announcement will be made end of May. Same last year and you mugs lap it up. Communication is dreadful at the club and that idiot Sibley with his teasing tweets. We are Saints we do as we're told and are grateful Think post above answers you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 I get the opposing view that you subscribe to but communications in business is about goodwill not absolute truth as yes I know they will be on sale at some point and tbh the cost is not an issue to me- I will buy one whatever. The point is we have a club communications officer and there is obviously little to report on at this time of year so they could easily put a line or so on the tickets like on OS saying the likelihood of when info will be announced so that those who are interested in such info are satisfied. Last year was worse as they had something along the lines of keep checking the website. Instead we get some idiot teasing about 'big news' like some 12 yo school kid saying they have a secret but cant tell you yet - pathetic. And after that it was non news - manager in post for 8 months has contract - wow there's a shock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Are people still angry about the installment plan! Whats wrong with actually saving for something and paying for it in full! To be honest its why so many people are in debt, they just expect everything to be affordable and if they cant afford it then they want help paying for it! I agree with the posters on here that £500 over 11 months isnt hard to save. If you want a season ticket instead of hoping for an installment plan why not save the £45 ish a month over 11 months and then pay for it in full? Old fashioned i know but isnt this how it should be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwiz Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Are people still angry about the installment plan! Whats wrong with actually saving for something and paying for it in full! To be honest its why so many people are in debt, they just expect everything to be affordable and if they cant afford it then they want help paying for it! I agree with the posters on here that £500 over 11 months isnt hard to save. If you want a season ticket instead of hoping for an installment plan why not save the £45 ish a month over 11 months and then pay for it in full? Old fashioned i know but isnt this how it should be? £500 is a lot of money to some people my duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StVince1966 Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 season ticket price `£570/£595 plus vat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 season ticket price `£570/£595 plus vat plus vat ..... are we all businesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 season ticket price `£570/£595 plus vat No it won't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonian Posted 19 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 19 May, 2011 i think what many on here don't grasp is that although our league one crowds were good, there was still room for 10,000 more at virtually every game, yes i am fortunate to be able to buy my season tickets as soon as they are on sale, but i know of many people who did not have a season ticket purely down to the stopping of the instalment plan, they then pick and choose games, end up going to say 10 games at full price rather than all the games at a lower price, so in theory these people actually gave Southampton football club far less money over the last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 average attendance in our CCC playoff season was 23500. There will be lots of spare capacity, even if we are doing well. ST and matchday prices all depend on what business model the club is using. I would hope that they reintroduce membership , so that loyal supporters who don't have a ST have a chance of getting the tickets for popular games, and that the club explain to the fans how and why they are pricing tickets.( including the tax, installments etc). THink most of us accept we will have to pay for success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 maybe they have a bid fo £100 million in for messi. if he accepts the season tickets will be £1000 ach and if he doesnt then no change. I just wish he would hurry up and decide whether he is going to get on the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 I spoke to the TO yesterday about opening hours, whilst I was on the phone I asked when ST details would be released & was told it would be the end of the month. I suspect it will be a similar arrangement to last year, so I've made arrangements for a 0% credit card. It may be something worth considering for those that don't have the cash hidden away under the matress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StVince1966 Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 margeret in the back office of sales at st marys stadium has stated the club are considering not offering season tickets this term.it would be trialed over a 1 season period.each supporter on the offical database would start on a points system similar to the england supporters organisation.no initial payment from fans would be necessary in the short term to run this points system. announcement will go to national and local press from june Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 margeret in the back office of sales at st marys stadium has stated the club are considering not offering season tickets this term.it would be trialed over a 1 season period.each supporter on the offical database would start on a points system similar to the england supporters organisation.no initial payment from fans would be necessary in the short term to run this points system. announcement will go to national and local press from june Do what?? I hope thats a wind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 Do what?? I hope thats a wind up. I would think so, sounds like an administrative nightmare to run, not to mention thousands upon thousands of extra calls for each individual match. Commercial suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 Do what?? I hope thats a wind up. What the F*** no season tickets. Well if that's the case they can do one!!! Comercial suicide. As a season ticket holder of many years, if they expect a match by match buy. i will not be going again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 margeret in the back office of sales at st marys stadium has stated the club are considering not offering season tickets this term.it would be trialed over a 1 season period.each supporter on the offical database would start on a points system similar to the england supporters organisation.no initial payment from fans would be necessary in the short term to run this points system. announcement will go to national and local press from june Margeret will be delighted with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 (edited) margeret in the back office of sales at st marys stadium has stated the club are considering not offering season tickets this term.it would be trialed over a 1 season period.each supporter on the offical database would start on a points system similar to the england supporters organisation.no initial payment from fans would be necessary in the short term to run this points system. announcement will go to national and local press from june I have no idea how legit this little snippet is, but let me be the first to point out that I did say about 11 months ago that not having STs at all might be part of Cortese's plan based on what had happened so far. If anyone wants to run a search on it, feel free... and while you're at it, can you find my pre-season prediction for where we'd finish this season ? The one thing I think would stop the removal of STs altogether is the impracticality (and cost) of trying to sell 25000+ tickets for every match, but doing things a different way has never been a problem for Cortese so far - it's just that everything he's done that's been unconventional so far (other than sack Pardew after a 4-0 win, and even the prevaricating over Adkins cost us the title in the end) has been a bloody disaster or huge pain in the ar5e. Edited 20 May, 2011 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 20 May, 2011 Share Posted 20 May, 2011 I spoke to the TO yesterday about opening hours, whilst I was on the phone I asked when ST details would be released & was told it would be the end of the month. I suspect it will be a similar arrangement to last year, so I've made arrangements for a 0% credit card. It may be something worth considering for those that don't have the cash hidden away under the matress. And who are still credit worthy 2 years into a credit crunch and recession, who don't already have a card that's maxed out, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 And who are still credit worthy 2 years into a credit crunch and recession, who don't already have a card that's maxed out, etc. its tough times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 I have no idea how legit this little snippet is, but let me be the first to point out that I did say about 11 months ago that not having STs at all might be part of Cortese's plan based on what had happened so far. If anyone wants to run a search on it, feel free... and while you're at it, can you find my pre-season prediction for where we'd finish this season ? The one thing I think would stop the removal of STs altogether is the impracticality (and cost) of trying to sell 25000+ tickets for every match, but doing things a different way has never been a problem for Cortese so far - it's just that everything he's done that's been unconventional so far (other than sack Pardew after a 4-0 win, and even the prevaricating over Adkins cost us the title in the end) has been a bloody disaster or huge pain in the ar5e. I didn't now NickG had a second account............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooh it's a corner Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 I'm not sure I agree with the club bashing over the lack of season ticket info. Remembering back a few seasons it always struck me as bonkers that season ticket prices were announced before we knew which division we were going to be in - presumably for the same lack of cash flow that Norwich suffer from, with the introduction of an earlier early bird each year. So, the same was true in March this year, the club did not know which division we would be in next. So, there are only two choices, announce season ticket pricing with League One and Championship pricing, or wait. I'd also like to think that the season ticket pricing is also related to the costs of running the club (albeit I accept that these days it is a smaller percentage of revenue than yesteryear). So, perhaps the club wants to understand who the manager wants to keep/release/sign, before doing the maths on the season ticket pricing. The other factor, for me, in season ticket sales, is the feel good factor. If the club doesnt expect any major signings, then the best time to sell season tickets was probably the second we were assured of promotion. (which means this boat has now sailed). However, if the club is expecting a major signing, this could be better than the feel good factor at promotion... Finally, with regards to the "no season tickets" idea, I'm not sure it's as leftfield as it sounds (although as a ST holder it would be a right royal pain in the backside). I think it would result in bigger gate receipts if the club is successful, and smaller gate receipts if the club is not - I can't work out whether a club that wants to do something differently to the world's most successful teams is maverick or barmy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 ? Don't think season tickets are on their way out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooh it's a corner Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 ? Don't think season tickets are on their way out me neither, but St Vince's post #134 seems to fuel that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 I think there maybe a scheme that runs for non-season ticket holders that runs on a points system, but season ticket holders WILL still happen next season. The scheme for non season ticket holders could be a good one, and I look forward to hearing more about that, but season ticket details will be out soon. I should think early June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 ? Don't think season tickets are on their way out I think the club would be utterly stupid not to have STs what would make sense would be is to keep certain blocks ST free and only open them when the demand is there - which is what they do on a limited basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 margeret in the back office of sales at st marys stadium has stated the club are considering not offering season tickets this term.it would be trialed over a 1 season period.each supporter on the offical database would start on a points system similar to the england supporters organisation.no initial payment from fans would be necessary in the short term to run this points system. announcement will go to national and local press from june I am part of the England membership the only reason that system is in place is for loyalty when giving out away tickets. 2 points for an away game, 1 for a home game then they allocate tickets down to how many points you have. This works well for England but will be useless for saints, hope this is a wind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 hope this is a wind up. Just take a look at his posting history.....I suspect "margaret" is Michael Owen's auntie :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 I am the only one who thinks all this early bird and buying a season ticket in March is bizarre and to me is a recent craze? If this carries on Norwich will be buying next years season ticket in december. I seem to remember that there used to be distinct seasons and this season would end you have a break then in July pre season and season tickets all start up again? Don't see what is wrong with the club going back to that model? We all know Season tickets are coming whether I buy it today or in July doesn't matter as long as I have it before game 1 surely? This thread IMO is just like our society..I want it and I want it now..I am not prepared to wait one second longer...even if I can't use it for another 4 months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 And who are still credit worthy 2 years into a credit crunch and recession, who don't already have a card that's maxed out, etc. If you already have a card that's maxed out should you be getting a season ticket or going to footie too often anyway? It's a discretionary spend FFS. As someone else has pointed out £500 is a lot of money to some people, so that's why they should be saving now, given the opportunity. Get a money box even, if that helps you budget; come back from the pub having had a pint less than usual pop £2/3 in the jar. Forego that takeaway and cook yourself something even if you're feeling a bit tired, pop in a fiver. Most of us have had lean times at one stage or another and have had to prioritise. If going to the football is a priority, prioritise it and _do_ something about it, but the constant moaning on here is child-like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 This thread IMO is just like our society..I want it and I want it now..I am not prepared to wait one second longer...even if I can't use it for another 4 months! ..and can't pay for it either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 (edited) margeret in the back office of sales at st marys stadium has stated the club are considering not offering season tickets this term.it would be trialed over a 1 season period.each supporter on the offical database would start on a points system similar to the england supporters organisation.no initial payment from fans would be necessary in the short term to run this points system. announcement will go to national and local press from june Has "Margeret" got a new job then??http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY0itJfWStQ&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY0itJfWStQ&feature=related Edited 21 May, 2011 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 If you already have a card that's maxed out should you be getting a season ticket or going to footie too often anyway? It's a discretionary spend FFS. As someone else has pointed out £500 is a lot of money to some people, so that's why they should be saving now, given the opportunity. Get a money box even, if that helps you budget; come back from the pub having had a pint less than usual pop £2/3 in the jar. Forego that takeaway and cook yourself something even if you're feeling a bit tired, pop in a fiver. Most of us have had lean times at one stage or another and have had to prioritise. If going to the football is a priority, prioritise it and _do_ something about it, but the constant moaning on here is child-like. A truely marvellous, accurate and spot on post Sue, well done for spelling out for some people. Is that how you save for your dungarees?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 What is our all time ST sales record? Surely in the Prem we were getting around 24,000 season ticket holders? A very low chance of getting over 20,000 in my opinion. Absolutely right. At the end of the day it's League 2 football and there's a recession on and biting deeper ever week. A lot of people are going to struggle this year and onwards and quite a few will lose jobs and committing to a ST for many right now would be considered by many non-footballing wives a luxury too far with such uncertainty ahead. You know the old cry - "cut out the fags and booze and look at all the money we can save" to go on holiday to some worthless despotic slumpit of a dog-****e beach or perhaps more meaningfully on a new pair of trousers for Wayne or dress for Tina.... 17500 tops in my view at start with maybe another thousand picking up the half-season bargains at Christmas if we're doing well enough to be in woth a shout od something worthwhile at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 21 May, 2011 Share Posted 21 May, 2011 And who are still credit worthy 2 years into a credit crunch and recession, who don't already have a card that's maxed out, etc. Um.. I don't have maxed out card & I'm still credit worthy. I'm sorry if my pragmatism (and presumably my credit rating) has upset you. I was just highlighting one way around the possible lack of an installment plan. Maybe I should have kept it to myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypie Posted 22 May, 2011 Share Posted 22 May, 2011 Wasnt there some rumour about a ticketless entry system coming in this year? Barcode or swipe card type thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonian Posted 22 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 22 May, 2011 Wasnt there some rumour about a ticketless entry system coming in this year? Barcode or swipe card type thing? yes and it will happen, but possibly not for next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 22 May, 2011 Share Posted 22 May, 2011 A truely marvellous, accurate and spot on post Sue, well done for spelling out for some people. Is that how you save for your dungarees?? Nah, I suggest them to family as a Christmas prezzie. Actually as I'm a bit femme I don't actually wear dungarees, so sorry if I'm not your fantasy woman...;-) I wouldn't dispute that footie is expensive these days, as I pointed out on another thread, but what gets me are the pitiful moans about it here. There are plenty of political arguments to be made about inequality, but maxing out credit cards isn't a response. If you want to do something extra you can't really afford, whether a skiing holiday (my own vice), or a footie season ticket or horse riding in the forest or a nice motorbike or whatever, get yourself an occasional bar /shelf stacking/cleaning job/whatever. Judging by my visits to soton when I end up in various pubs, Lidl, IKEA etc., where speaking Polish would be a useful asset there are obviously jobs out there. Poor pay certainly, but enough to pay for those luxuries: complain about your effing fuel bills, not the price of a footie season ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 May, 2011 Share Posted 22 May, 2011 Um.. I don't have maxed out card & I'm still credit worthy. I'm sorry if my pragmatism (and presumably my credit rating) has upset you. I was just highlighting one way around the possible lack of an installment plan. Maybe I should have kept it to myself. Yeah, well done, and I'm pointing out that a lot MORE people will either have already tried this and not be able to do it again, or will have not been able to do it in the first place. The "can't afford to pay in one chunk nor just extend their overdraft and don't already have a credit card but still actually able to get one" subset of the fan base is probably minute compared to the "can't do any of those" group. Basically you'll either have a spare £500 AND be able to get credit, or you won't have the money and you probably can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 May, 2011 Share Posted 22 May, 2011 yes and it will happen, but possibly not for next season Or last season, or the season before, all of which featured the same rumour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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