Dog Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Anyone else with me on this one? 9/11 needed repaying, the US went to war to get that mother f***er, we got the son of a bit(h, now we can all come home!! Helecoptors on rooftops, 40 minute gun battle! Body dumped in sea? What a load of bullsh1t.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint sfc Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I reckon pictures will eventually be released. There is a helluva lot that doesn't make any sense though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made in Southampton Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 There is one problem with this conpiracy theory. If he's not dead why has he not got on the phone and told someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Anyone else with me on this one? 9/11 needed repaying, the US went to war to get that mother f***er, we got the son of a bit(h, now we can all come home!! Helecoptors on rooftops, 40 minute gun battle! Body dumped in sea? What a load of bullsh1t.. Thats the great thing about our country and democracy. You can believe what you want! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 If it's a conspiracy did the US get the hideout built 10 years ago ready for this eventuality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefunkygibbons Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 No way that the US announces his death without proof I believe he is dead However, they should release the pictures We had to face people jumping off buildings, I think we can stand the sight of his bullet ridden body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I've seen a picture, no idea if it's real or not. Pretty grim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint sfc Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 They've not been released so it'll be a fake. Was it the one going round on facebook? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Does it matter? Al Qaida is still active, it's ethos is still calling to others, the war on terror will go on and deaths will still occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 If we want him dead then I'm pretty sure he is dead. The "burial at sea" thing is a smart move IMO (even if you don't believe it) - prevents any sort of shrine or lasting link with a country of burial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Lol Of course they will release pictures Of course they will release the DNA evidence And of course theyw ill release the Video footage. Just have to understand that there is an election coming up and Obama is not doing too well, so only a complete moron would release everything in one go a day after the news comes out. You'll get "we have to ensure that nothing could put future operations in jeopardy" or some such like while they over how much political capital they have made out this and how they have the next election in the bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrise Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 No he isn't dead, in fact he took full advantage of our lax immigration laws and has been driving buses in London for the last 2 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 The fact Benazir Bhutto said she knew who killed him, before retracting her statement in the weeks leading up to her death, doesn't sit well with me. I've been watching Sky News a fair bit over the past 48 hours and it seems everything is extremely well scripted, but did anyone see the old, bumbling congresswoman in the pink suit they interviewed yesterday evening? She said something along the lines of "this is a new war" before stumbling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 They've not been released so it'll be a fake. Was it the one going round on facebook? lol. There was one on the Daily Mail website yesterday morning but it was removed by 9am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 There was one on the Daily Mail website yesterday morning but it was removed by 9am. Yeah, it's the fake that has been doing the rounds for years. It's a mock up of Sadaam Hussein's son and bin Laden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Trubble Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 There is one problem with this conpiracy theory. If he's not dead why has he not got on the phone and told someone? Maybe because he was already dead before yesrterday, the Yanks know this but if he was killed by natural causes then there is no real feeling of "WE GOT THE M'****A, WE LOVE USA" " OUR BOYS ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD, BE PROUD TO BE AMERICAN" and so on. It's sort of an anti-climax if he wasn't killed by the Americans, if that makes sense. Also, you have Obama, floundering badly with the elections not too far away and having to resort to playground style taunting of Mr Trump (although he deserves it and it was funny). I'm just playing devils advocate here, I keep an open mind when it comes to the antics of our American cousins and I am sure that they will provide the evidence very soon that confirms his death by their forces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 3 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 May, 2011 There is one problem with this conpiracy theory. If he's not dead why has he not got on the phone and told someone? He's ran out of credit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I've seen a picture, no idea if it's real or not. Pretty grim. Maybe the real one is even grimmer,only half a head left or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 He's ran out of credit? He can't get a signal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made in Southampton Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 What wouldn't surprise me on this is that he isn't actually dead and they have him holed up somewhere with electrodes on his testicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I suppose if people believe that the Twin Towers was a CIA conspiracy then they may believe Bin laden is alive. Personally i think the Yanks would not say he is dead when patently he only would have to show his face to discredit them. I suspect if the film is shown of his killing we can see if he was cowardly hiding behind his wife or if she threw herself in front of him to save him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 His death is just a symbolic victory, but still... What made me laugh was somebody on here saying that it will end when we kill all of them and that's one less. If you think it through, it probably means at least a hundred more. Nobody's leaving the group because of this, but it's certain some will join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 What wouldn't surprise me on this is that he isn't actually dead and they have him holed up somewhere with electrodes on his testicles. What wouldn't surprise me is that he didn't look the same and that Pakistanis might not have recognised him,if that were to be the case then the Americans wouldn't have such a big downer on them as they do now.No doubt there'll be some select treatment in store for his son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 There is one problem with this conpiracy theory. If he's not dead why has he not got on the phone and told someone? He's ran out of credit? He can't get a signal? Damn you Three Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 The fact Benazir Bhutto said she knew who killed him, before retracting her statement in the weeks leading up to her death, doesn't sit well with me. I've been watching Sky News a fair bit over the past 48 hours and it seems everything is extremely well scripted, but did anyone see the old, bumbling congresswoman in the pink suit they interviewed yesterday evening? She said something along the lines of "this is a new war" before stumbling. How convenient that she was killed a few weeks after saying that. Methinks this Bin Laden thing is electioneering that the Whitehouse prepared when Bush declared war on terrorism should sh!t hit the fan, to instill a bit of pride and trust in the Prez. He's been dead for years ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doughnutman Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 (edited) Having recently reread Dan Browns Deception Point, I am convinced its a conspiracy. Edited 3 May, 2011 by doughnutman Dan not Darren! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 According to the reports they have known about this place for quite a while so I suspect that the only real conspiracy is that the timing of the attack was to optimise the positive political effect for Obama than for any operational reason. Remember there were other people in the compound who were not killed and will in time probably confirm or deny if osama was alive up until the raid unless you think his near relatives are all CIA plants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I try to keep an open mind when it comes to conspiracy theories. Too many people just accept everything that they're ever fed hook, line and sinker. There's probably a bit too much faith in the "free" press, especially since its in the hands of so few people. Also, people just don't think big enough, and are perhaps guilty of projecting their relatively mundane existences onto the super-powerful. I don't know what the elite get up to day-to-day, but I'm guessing they have a different outlook on life than you or me. There are a few things that the powers-that-be could do to shut proponents of conspiracy theories up, mostly providing concrete evidence. For example, we're told that a 747 crashed into the White House on 9/11, but save a few frames of blurry video ( which doesn't look like a 747 at all ), there's no conclusive proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I try to keep an open mind when it comes to conspiracy theories. Too many people just accept everything that they're ever fed hook, line and sinker. There's probably a bit too much faith in the "free" press, especially since its in the hands of so few people. Also, people just don't think big enough, and are perhaps guilty of projecting their relatively mundane existences onto the super-powerful. I don't know what the elite get up to day-to-day, but I'm guessing they have a different outlook on life than you or me. There are a few things that the powers-that-be could do to shut proponents of conspiracy theories up, mostly providing concrete evidence. For example, we're told that a 747 crashed into the White House on 9/11, but save a few frames of blurry video ( which doesn't look like a 747 at all ), there's no conclusive proof. I think you mean the pentagon.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories#The_Pentagon Airplane debris including Flight 77's black boxes,[109] the nose cone, landing gear,[110] an airplane tire,[111] and an intact cockpit seat[112] were observed at the crash site. The remains of passengers from Flight 77 were found at the Pentagon crash site and their identities confirmed by DNA analysis.[113] Many eyewitnesses saw the plane strike the Pentagon. Further, Flight 77 passengers made phone calls reporting that their airplane had been hijacked. For example, passenger Renee May called her mother to tell her that the plane had been hijacked and that the passengers had been herded to the back of the plane. Another passenger named Barbara Olson called her husband (U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson) and said that the flight had been hijacked, and that the hijackers had knives and box cutters.[4][104][114] The public interest group Judicial Watch filed a Freedom of Information Act request on December 15, 2004 to force the government to release video recordings from the Sheraton National Hotel, the Nexcomm/Citgo gas station, Pentagon security cameras and the Virginia Department of Transportation. On May 16, 2006 the government released the Pentagon security camera videos to Judicial Watch. The videos show an aircraft striking the building at high speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint sfc Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Well I don't think anyone ever landed on the moon even, so I'm a consipriariaiest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Well I don't think anyone ever landed on the moon even, so I'm a consipriariaiest. Is that the long name for someone who can't spell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Yes he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulSaint Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I've heard that Scacel never did in fact sign for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I think you mean the pentagon.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories#The_Pentagon Yep, you're right. Long day. Point still stands though. They could shut people up once and for all with conclusive proof. You can't tell me that they haven't got better surveillance of what went down there. As you pointed out in your correction, it's the Pentagon, the nerve centre of the US Defense department. Just give us some good footage and put it to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Yep, you're right. Long day. Point still stands though. They could shut people up once and for all with conclusive proof. You can't tell me that they haven't got better surveillance of what went down there. As you pointed out in your correction, it's the Pentagon, the nerve centre of the US Defense department. Just give us some good footage and put it to bed. Did you read the article I quoted from. There are many sources of evidence that point to the plane crashing into the pentagon and the only thing the consipracy theorists can come up with is that one of the pieces of evidence, the video footage, is a bit blurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I did pedg, but any student of history knows the difference between primary evidence, secondary evidence and Wikipedia Besides, it's not really my point. The conspiracy theorists get to chip away at the official account. They could be completely blown out of the water, but haven't been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 (edited) I did pedg, but any student of history knows the difference between primary evidence, secondary evidence and Wikipedia Besides, it's not really my point. The conspiracy theorists get to chip away at the official account. They could be completely blown out of the water, but haven't been. Problem with conspiracy theorists is that that any evidence against their position is used as more fuel for the fire. For example, say the US had release a picture of bin laden dead. You can bet your bottom dollar that within minutes there would be people online saying how it was obviously photoshopped etc. As to wikipedia if you don't believe it then follow the links to the references. Edited 3 May, 2011 by pedg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I think its pretty lame that they didnt arrest him, bring him back to the US and put him on death row. It just says Might is Right to the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 There is one problem with this conpiracy theory. If he's not dead why has he not got on the phone and told someone? Perhaps its his phone thats dead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Perhaps its his phone thats dead? Apparently his battery is shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 if its on the news i tend to think 1. Who wants me to believe this? 2. Is it true? EG. the stuff about 1/4 of kids being born living to 100 years. The DWP want us to believe this...and its unlikely (VERY) to be true. Bin laden. Been dead for years.... Just been killed.... never existed....who knows? What I know is the American government( and our lot) want us to think he has just been killed. Which is reason enough to be sceptical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Trubble Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 http://ggordonapathykills.blogspot.com/ Anybody else believe in any of the stuff on the site above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 I think its pretty lame that they didnt arrest him, bring him back to the US and put him on death row. It just says Might is Right to the world.Can you imagine the hostage situations that would arise from that?Let alone giving him the chance to spread his word to the nutters following him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Anyone else with me on this one? 9/11 needed repaying, the US went to war to get that mother f***er, we got the son of a bit(h, now we can all come home!! Helecoptors on rooftops, 40 minute gun battle! Body dumped in sea? What a load of bullsh1t.. Do you really think America would do this, knowing that Bin could release a video at anytime making a fool out of US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 There will now be numerous Bin Laden sightings reported, running a curry house on Mars, or possibly in Brick Lane next door to Elvis' Fish & Chip shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Maybe he just wanted to defect to the U.S. and the only way he could is for his death to be faked. He couldn't just walk away as people would know he is a traitor and would be out for revenge so he would be jumping out of the frying pan into the fire. However this way he can keep his reputation and people will stop looking for him. A bit of surgery and a shave will do wonders and in return for a safer life he will give the U.S. lots of info in the months to come. The U.S. by saying that have captured 10 computers and stick things means his followers won't think they are being directly betrayed by him. By dumping his "body" at sea, killing his wife and leaving her body makes his death more believable to his followers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Do you really think America would do this, knowing that Bin could release a video at anytime making a fool out of US I agree, far too risky for the government, not just making a fool out of Obama, he'd be facing impeachment, let alone no second term. Also, if they were waiting to release news of his death at a time to really impact ratings, surely next year would be the optimum time to do it. Releasing a photo of his death would be an easy short term fix to satisfy the doubters. There is clearly a good reason they don't want images of a dead Bin Laden out there for the long term. He needed to be wiped out as quickly, efficiently and as humbly as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Maybe he just wanted to defect to the U.S. and the only way he could is for his death to be faked. He couldn't just walk away as people would know he is a traitor and would be out for revenge so he would be jumping out of the frying pan into the fire. However this way he can keep his reputation and people will stop looking for him. A bit of surgery and a shave will do wonders and in return for a safer life he will give the U.S. lots of info in the months to come. The U.S. by saying that have captured 10 computers and stick things means his followers won't think they are being directly betrayed by him. By dumping his "body" at sea, killing his wife and leaving her body makes his death more believable to his followers. Except it turns out his wife was shot in the leg and survived, it was another woman who was killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thesaint sfc Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 I reckon they've got him somewhere and are torturing him to find out whatever they want to know - then they'll kill him and no one will be any the wiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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