The9 Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 (edited) Is there anybody like me who think all the people on here who post to say that fans should sing only certain songs have little understanding of the game and the passion that is very much part of it. Without the mix of people and bad language etc it becomes a very sterile spectacle, and would lose a lot of its appeal to fans who travel large distances to follow their team. Wembley in the JPT final was a carnival, a great day out. But for real passion give me a derby game against the our Hampshire rivals and that is what really makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. Singing from a selected "Hymn sheet" is not it I'm afraid. Spontaneity brings humour, good chants and bad and damn good days out like yesterday at Plymouth. Without the hard core at the Northam the other 3 corners of the ground sitting on their hands until we score, will not get you promoted or get people coming back for more. I'd just like us to sing the kind of songs I'd like us to sing, that's not difficult to understand is it ? So, to ensure my future happiness, if the crowd would like to look at me after they've started a song, I'm happy to nod or shake my head. I probably am already anyway. For the record, as a general rule - anything with "red" without "white" is WRONG (for this season only, but replacing "red" with either "Saints" or "whites" is fine). The Jose Fonte song must be change to fit the original Human League beat, and all songs about Cortese and "doing what we want" are banned as they are mongish. Rickie Lambert is "NEARLY" 6ft 3, not "OVER". Also, I'd like it confirmed that it is possible to win football matches and even get promoted without any supporters at all, I'm pretty sure I've seen parks teams do this on a fairly regular basis. Finally, displaying "passion" and "acting like an utter pen15head" are not to be confused, it is also perfectly possible to have one without the other. Edited 3 May, 2011 by The9 missing "l" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Exactly, but there are a few precious people on here who think they are above everyone else because they conform to what *they* think is expected. Well done, you finally got it. I'm now going to retire from this thread to continue grinning inanely about our promotion warmly inside, without kicking anyone's head in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 3 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Is there anybody like me who think all the people on here who post to say that fans should sing only certain songs have little understanding of the game and the passion that is very much part of it.Sweeping statement or what? Some chants are cringeworthy, in bad taste, arrogant and some are uplifting and supportive. I reserve the right to express an opinion on the difference. The latter creates a great atmosphere - the former generates animosity and bad feeling. What is wrong with a debate on the subject. Fortunately we don't seem to sink to the depths of some fans who chant about the Munich disaster or Adam Stansfield etc, but giving fans stick because they are skint and being relegated is ****** poor. Just my opinion obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I didn't even think we were arrogant yesterday, except the "we do what we want" chant. The "going down" stuff just made us look like a bunch of idiots who didn't know the difference between celebrating our success and gloating at their failure... as others have said, "short memories". And the ONLY reason there was "very little bad behaviour" was all the thugs who usually try their best to drag our name through the mud suddenly realised that they didn't want to start a fight with the 3 lines of police and dogs standing in front of them when it was "on the pitch" time, and instead managed to only aggravate all the celebrating fans around them with their selfish cramming up of the aisles and front areas (I'm particularly thinking of blocking the views of the wheelchair fans at the front). Can't fault the policing there, and nor am I sure how they're supposed to identify a random rock-chucker in a park. If you think I'm going to condone Plymouth fans laying into people in the "wrong end" you're wrong, and I wouldn't be impressed with Saints fans doing the same if the roles were reversed, either. No-one was looking for a fight, but yes some over-the-top celebrating and its a pity if that adversely affected any other fans, particularly those disabled, but that was as a result of being over-enthusiastic, as opposed to any kind of malice. And I'm not saying they should be "able to identify a random rock-checker", but look vaguely interested in preventing it happening as opposed to just filming Saints fans celebrating or generally looking on gormlessly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Well done, you finally got it. I'm now going to retire from this thread to continue grinning inanely about our promotion warmly inside, without kicking anyone's head in. While feeling embarrassed with yourself that you compared singing to kicking someone's head in, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 While feeling embarrassed with yourself that you compared singing to kicking someone's head in, perhaps? Doh, got reeled back in. No, I was contrasting the two. Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I can't be bothered to read this thread but Plymouth took huge pleasure when we were relegated and in admin, so I took great pleasure in sending their poxy little club down and joined in with every "going down" related chant aimed at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mao Cap Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I can't be bothered to read this thread but Plymouth took huge pleasure when we were relegated and in admin, so I took great pleasure in sending their poxy little club down and joined in with every "going down" related chant aimed at them. This. Every time we've played them they've had a huge amount of gobby little sh*tbags who seem to have a beef with us for no reason whatsoever and took great joy in our reduced circumstances. And now we're supposed to play nice and not hurt their ickle feelings, now we're on the up and they're in trouble? Hell no. You reap what you sow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 ^^^^^^ this is what p1sses me off about some of the total c88ts that 'follow' our team!......pr1cks who have no sense of where to draw the line between banter and antagonism.If you can't handle ya beer,then don't f**king drink it.!! I am sick to death of reading how "arrogant and disrespectful saints fans are" and of how much everyone thinks we're "total scum"!!........well, I am NOT scum,and I am NOT arrogant,and the vast majority of Saints fans aren't either!...but the mindless (and i use that term in its full meaning!) minority have had us all tarred with their brush and i am f**king sick of it!... show some f**king respect to others when you're in their city,grow the f**k up or simply f**k off !!!!!you are not wanted here anymore, not by me and not by the MAJORITY of Saints fans.... i love Southampton the club AND the city, and you are tarnishing that name... I think it's brilliant that we wind up other teams fans so much. I'd rather be hated than be like Wigan or Fulham, who nobody could really give a damn about either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mao Cap Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 That "do what we want" Man U thing is indeed terrible, however. Especially when a load of massive coppers turn up in front of the pitch and we, erm, quietly do what we're told instead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 That "do what we want" Man U thing is indeed terrible, however. Especially when a load of massive coppers turn up in front of the pitch and we, erm, quietly do what we're told instead... Yeah, I prefer the "we do what we're told" alternative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I do not like the Connolly one and he was outstanding yesterday. I do not like the arrogant 'we do what we want' either The funniest one was the usual 'southerners' erm Plymouth are more southerly than Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I don't know. I've really enjoyed being the arrogant big club down with the minnows. I guess it's how Utd feel every week and it's certainly made a change from "plucky little Southampton". Always enjoyed the under dog status in the top flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 The only reason we are "hated" is because we have, over the last two years (and will continue to do next year on occasions), been playing against largely tinpot opposition with deluded, miserable, downtrodden fans used to seeing other tinpot clubs turn up to play dire, uninspiring football in front of dire, meagre and uninspiring away followings for the sole purpose of perpetuating the humdrum and ambitionless existence of their dire, meagre, uninspiring, humdrum, downtrodden tinpot club. As we climb back up we will move into the "largely indifferent" category and possibly progress into the "well liked club with good fans" category as we move into the Prem. If we start achieving real success in the Prem we will probably move towards being unliked again. HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 ...and who was it that gobbed all over this blokes car? http://www.pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=54194 That does sound hideous, and it's disappointing if true. I'm not saying that it isn't, but guess where I read it first? http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?200424-Congratulations-to-Saints-match-thread-v-Plymouth/page7 Post 129. Now, if that was me I'd be posting something on SWF...why would you go to the Brighton board? What's it got to do with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNick89 Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 The funniest one was the usual 'southerners' erm Plymouth are more southerly than Southampton That was only sung because the plymouth fans were calling us dirty northerners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 A couple seasons ago some nobber in the row behind me tried to start a chant likening Nathan Dyer to a baboon, with the sound effects thrown in for good measure. Thankfully he didn't get a following and the steward gave him a ticking off which I thought was carp. The t0sspot should have been ejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 What a God awful waste of bandwidth this thread this. Call me selfish, but I'll do what I like what at football (within the realms of the law of course) thank you very much. By the way, those Plymouth fans have to be joking haven't they? Do the fans of other teams just stay sat when they score? Morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knellster Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Call me selfish, but I'll do what I like what at football (within the realms of the law of course) thank you very much. By the way, those Plymouth fans have to be joking haven't they? Do the fans of other teams just stay sat when they score? Morons. OK - you're selfish. That's precisely the problem with so many of our fans who do what the hell they want and if it ruins the enjoyment of other Saints fans then tough sh1t. The people in front of us yesterday were standing on the back of the seats which blocked the view of at least two rows behind them, but what the hell they were doing what they liked (as it happens that's also not within the realms of the law but I'm sure you get my point) and the rest just had to put up with it. Also, what relevance is it what other teams' fans do? If they make monkey noises at our black players does that mean we can do it to theirs? Nobody expects or wants our fans to sit quietly when we score, but it would be nice if people didn't behave like tossers for the rest of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eharty9 Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 kpturner you need to learn how to have banter my son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 The people in front of us yesterday were standing on the back of the seats which blocked the view of at least two rows behind them This just seems to me to be another good argument for safe standing in grounds, if you got rid of the seats for a proportion those that wanted to stand with their mates could and those that didn't could sit with their flasks Also, what relevance is it what other teams' fans do? If they make monkey noises at our black players does that mean we can do it to theirs? That's just puerile ******** to be fair (and you probably know it too), banter has been around as long as i've been going and i've heard some pretty ****ing nasty stuff sung that makes what we hear these days pale into insignificance. How many here can remember "who's that burning on the runway?" or taking the **** out of northerners for losing their jobs in the 80's? Mind you the cortese one and pompey fan on a string make me cringe every time, but there you go you've gotta take the rough with the smooth. Besides as far as i'm concerned football is sanitised enough these days without having a go at people for fairly innocuous songs (if it was racist chanting it'd be a different story) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomobz Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 this thread is why there needs to be seperate safe standing areas at football. people go for different reasons, some purely to watch their team play and others purely for the banter, smash up and atmosphere. who's to tell the other crowd what is right or wrong?! just give people the option and avoid aggrevating other fans. simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Cortese woooo, Cortese woooo He comes from Italy He f/cking hates Pompey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 our away support is better now than ever. I remember us regularly only every taking 1,500 or so to Tottenham and less than 1,000 to MIdlands grounds, we get much more than that in league one. I can't argue about the numbers. our away support numberswise is amazing compared to what it was in the 90's, BUT ...... with a few exceptions (the two examples you gave fit the criteria as fantastic support) I don't think the support is as passionate as it was at away games. I've been to loads of away games where you look around and see people sat down not singing songs or showing any passion or support. At least in the past those that went got behind the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 3 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 May, 2011 (edited) kpturner you need to learn how to have banter my sonI am not you son - and I know how to have banter thanks....only I like to use my brain first. How about you - son? Edited 3 May, 2011 by kpturner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I'm in the minority on this one, but I hate it when we sing anti-Pompey songs when we are not playing Pompey. It's particularly crap when we're in some far-flung corner of the North where no-one gives a flying feck. I do not like particularly like Portsmouth FC, but equally, I'm not going to let my dislike of them partially define my participation as a Saints fan at games . I've never been particularly fond of hornets, but I don't spend my entire life worrying about them. I deal with them on a situational basis. The same should be true of Pompey. Deal with them when we play them. Let them rot in the ignominy of our indifference when we're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cool Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 The unoriginal and homophobic "Does your boyfriend know you're here?" vs. Brighton. Which reminds me of the shameful "Le Saux takes it up the ...." a few years back not long before he became one of our players (!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squiggly_dan Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 It's a "laugh" that makes certain sections of our fanbase look like the spiteful, childish, bitter neanderthal idiots that they are. I was happy enough with getting promoted* that I didn't feel the need to gloat at Plymouth about getting relegated, or being skint, I didn't want to sing utterly cringeworthy songs about our chairman, who I think has made a few dubious decisions, and I was amused at Connolly conducting the fans to sing what he wanted. And as for that pathetic rendition of "we do what we want", yeah, well done, now you look like 3rd rate Man Utd wannabes - ultra lower league and basically the empty song of an ignored kid that's desperate for any kind of attention - which pretty much sums up most of the mongs singing it. I also didn't want to run on the pitch for no apparent reason other than "you're not supposed to", and I was absolutely delighted that the policing allowed those of us who just wanted to enjoy it and see the players' celebrations the time to do that, without a bunch of mongtards swarming the pitch and forcing the players down the tunnel. We were hanging around in the car park celebrating for ages afterwards too, the policing wouldn't have allowed for that if it had all kicked off. Still, despite all that, and spending the last 25 minutes getting shoved up and down the seats thanks to some particularly thick-looking people desperate to stand in the aisles having all piled to the front (again for no particular reason other than not knowing how to behave), I had a bloody great time singing my guts out and generally celebrating the arse out of the day. Couldn't have said it any better myself - nail on head! I want my club to be known for it's passionate, intimidating, intelligent and respectful football fans - I want travelling players and supporters to come to St Mary's a nervous wreck knowing they cannot possibly compete with the wall of noise, not laughing at the bunch of mongaloids they see at the moment. To those who disagree - carry on with whatever it is you enjoy doing at matches - I intend to gather a group of like-minded fans to drown you out and give you an education on what being a football fan is really about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Cortese woooo, Cortese woooo He comes from Italy He f/cking hates Pompey Am I the only person on the forum who doesn't hate that chant? Don't see the problem to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilko Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 One tune, we only know one tune, we only know one tune, we only know one tune. Well, maybe three, but you see my point. P.S. We don't ever 'do what we want'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Am I the only person on the forum who doesn't hate that chant? Don't see the problem to be honest. you can't say that as its very naff to sing a song in appreciation of the man who saw our potential & persuaded his rich friend to buy us because he is also our chairman. maybe it would be ok if he changed his job title or resigned ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 One tune, we only know one tune, we only know one tune, we only know one tune. Well, maybe three, but you see my point. P.S. We don't ever 'do what we want'. Hahaha. I like it when "we do what we want" is followed by "on the pitch" which is in turn followed by not going on the pitch. What's the deal with that tune though? We now seem to have about 37 different songs related to it. Connolly has one, Lallana too. The "don't care about you" was funny at Bournemouth, but "do what we want" is laughable. "[insert name of opponents] a ****hole I wanna go home" has been quite popular this season as well. I think we should now ditch all our other songs and exclusively use this tune from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 Hahaha. I like it when "we do what we want" is followed by "on the pitch" which is in turn followed by not going on the pitch. What's the deal with that tune though? We now seem to have about 37 different songs related to it. Connolly has one, Lallana too. The "don't care about you" was funny at Bournemouth, but "do what we want" is laughable. "[insert name of opponents] a ****hole I wanna go home" has been quite popular this season as well. I think we should now ditch all our other songs and exclusively use this tune from now on. There was a bloke making up chants on the train home. Was amusing for 10 minutes or so, but EVERY SINGLE ONE was to that tune. Did my head in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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