Wes Tender Posted 2 May, 2011 Share Posted 2 May, 2011 Commiserations, Huddersfield. You ran us neck and neck and but for the game in hand and our better goal difference, it might have been different without the margin for error. You are a very valiant and spirited team and deserve to go up from the play-offs. As Bournemouth and their mouthy Chairman, Mitchell, have acted no better than the mouthy Ferguson Jnr., I would certainly prefer you to go up ahead of either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 2 May, 2011 Share Posted 2 May, 2011 They have been superb, any other season they would have auto easilly. But we have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 2 May, 2011 Share Posted 2 May, 2011 **** bompey and that misfit Mitchell up the Udders they have earned me some good money lately ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 (edited) What's with the love-in? Its so so easy to be magnanimous in victory - alas its the russian roulette of the playoffs that awaits them and, for better or for worse, league position counts for nada. Given the chance, I'd rather see Bompey promoted - 6 easy points next season and a bit of local solidarity (not to mention they've punched well above their weight whereas Huddersfield have enjoyed the opportunities, resources and infrastructure to get it right and still come up short). I've followed Huddersfield progress and if it goes down to GD, I think there will be no better yardstick to assess our respective accomplishments - for all the talk of their amazing unbeaten run, Huddersfield's performances have been patchy and uninspiring (another interpretation is that they've replaced last season's flair with a new-found professionalism and resilience). Either way, scraping and nicking games by the odd goal is going to add up at some point - as our hugely contrasting GDs illustrate, we've overpowered teams in a way huddersfield have simply not. Well-played to them for taking 3 points from games that could and perhaps should have turned out very differently (though they'll probably gripe about home results); but we've easily been better value for our wins. If the playoff final is between peterboro and huddersfield, you have to fancy peterboro in a one-off game - they were very unlucky not to take all 3 points at the Galpharm (but for wasteful finishing in the 1st half and a joe lewis howler). However much Ferguson Jr is a ****, from a purist's perspective, peterboro are arguably the better team. Good luck to huddersfield; but it won't be surprise or sadden me if they fall short again. Edited 3 May, 2011 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 What's with the love-in? Its so so easy to be magnanimous in victory - alas its the russian roulette of the playoffs that awaits them and, for better or for worse, league position counts for nada. Given the chance, I'd rather see Bompey promoted - 6 easy points next season and a bit of local solidarity (not to mention they've punched well above their weight whereas Huddersfield have enjoyed the opportunities, resources and infrastructure to get it right and still come up short). I've followed Huddersfield progress and if it goes down to GD, I think there will be no better yardstick to assess our respective accomplishments - for all the talk of their amazing unbeaten run, Huddersfield's performances have been patchy and uninspiring (another interpretation is that they've replaced last season's flair with a new-found professionalism and resilience). Either way, scraping and nicking games by the odd goal is going to add up at some point - as our hugely contrasting GDs illustrate, we've overpowered teams in a way huddersfield have simply not. Well-played to them for taking 3 points from games that could and perhaps should have turned out very differently (though they'll probably gripe about home results); but we've easily been better value for our wins. If the playoff final is between peterboro and huddersfield, you have to fancy peterboro in a one-off game - they were very unlucky not to take all 3 points at the Galpharm (but for wasteful finishing in the 1st half and a joe lewis howler). However much Ferguson Jr is a ****, from a purist's perspective, peterboro are arguably the better team. Good luck to huddersfield; but it won't be surprise or sadden me if they fall short again. Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcowzer Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 To go on the run they have gone on and still finish 3rd has got to be heart breaking. Absolutely loads of respect for them, they deserve to go up but don't agree the playoffs should be scrapped - reworked maybe but definitely not scrapped. Good luck to them and Bompey in the play-offs (whatever anybody thinks of the Cherries, what they have achieved this year is as commendable in my book). Of course the play-off's should be scrapped. They are a totally unfair arrangement for the FL/FA to lever more cash from Joe Fan while the teams that came third in their respective leagues on merit, are forced to submit to a lottery with the added 'bonus' of playing at Wembley, or, this year, thanks to the organising skills of the powers that be, Old Trafford -- some bonus, I'm sure. Scrap them and restore promotion on merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
los_saint Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Do you really think huddersh*t would care about us.... get back down your dirty northern mine, who cares who goes up through the playoffs. The saints are going up. Weirdos. **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 well they gained my respect and I may have been bitter had we not gone up, but I for 1 hope they get their fair reward and gain promotion. I have never experienced such a battle where a team does not lose for 25 games and still fails to reap a reward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Saint Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Commiserations, Huddersfield. You ran us neck and neck and but for the game in hand and our better goal difference, it might have been different without the margin for error. You are a very valiant and spirited team and deserve to go up from the play-offs. As Bournemouth and their mouthy Chairman, Mitchell, have acted no better than the mouthy Ferguson Jnr., I would certainly prefer you to go up ahead of either of them. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damers Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Well played, good luck in the play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I think Hudders run really inspired us and brought the best of our team. The udders deserve a lot of credit and any other year it would of been enough. Its gonna be tough to get up for the play offs but they will get to the final against Posh, its set to be a cracker...just so glad its not us in the play offs, my nerves couldn't take it. Good Luck Huddersfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 All this mutual love-in is nauseating. Fak them. Northern b-strds. We got autos and they didn't. Ha. Ha. Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Now the dust has settled. I don't think I want Huddersfield to go up.. We have an appalling record at their place... If Bournemouth can somehow do it, they would be easier pickings for us/another close away game and it would be funny to see them get trashes in the NPC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Of course the play-off's should be scrapped. They are a totally unfair arrangement for the FL/FA to lever more cash from Joe Fan while the teams that came third in their respective leagues on merit, are forced to submit to a lottery with the added 'bonus' of playing at Wembley, or, this year, thanks to the organising skills of the powers that be, Old Trafford -- some bonus, I'm sure. Scrap them and restore promotion on merit. I think you are wrong. Purely on fairness, look at this way: there are 2 promotion slots - for those finishing first and second. The team finishing third has not been good enough over the season (however well they may have finished the season) and misses out. BUT, with the play-offs, the season is extended for 4 teams finishing outside the top 2 and they are given a second chance. How can this be UNfair? For the fans the season is extended with a mini competition and a virtual cup final. It's great! And of course Bournemouth deserve to be in there with Huddersfield. They may not have finished the season with an extended unbeaten run but overall they have done brilliantly. But they failed to finish first or second - just like Huddersfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 All this mutual love-in is nauseating. Fak them. Northern b-strds. We got autos and they didn't. Ha. Ha. Ha! Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I think Huddersfield will go up through the play offs. I would be teed off if we got to that number of points and then were not promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 What's with the love-in? Its so so easy to be magnanimous in victory - alas its the russian roulette of the playoffs that awaits them and, for better or for worse, league position counts for nada. Given the chance, I'd rather see Bompey promoted - 6 easy points next season and a bit of local solidarity (not to mention they've punched well above their weight whereas Huddersfield have enjoyed the opportunities, resources and infrastructure to get it right and still come up short). I've followed Huddersfield progress and if it goes down to GD, I think there will be no better yardstick to assess our respective accomplishments - for all the talk of their amazing unbeaten run, Huddersfield's performances have been patchy and uninspiring (another interpretation is that they've replaced last season's flair with a new-found professionalism and resilience). Either way, scraping and nicking games by the odd goal is going to add up at some point - as our hugely contrasting GDs illustrate, we've overpowered teams in a way huddersfield have simply not. Well-played to them for taking 3 points from games that could and perhaps should have turned out very differently (though they'll probably gripe about home results); but we've easily been better value for our wins. If the playoff final is between peterboro and huddersfield, you have to fancy peterboro in a one-off game - they were very unlucky not to take all 3 points at the Galpharm (but for wasteful finishing in the 1st half and a joe lewis howler). However much Ferguson Jr is a ****, from a purist's perspective, peterboro are arguably the better team. Good luck to huddersfield; but it won't be surprise or sadden me if they fall short again. This. They are unlucky not to go up with 86 points and will be very unlucky if they get 89 and don't go up so in that sense I have some sympathy for them. Never mind though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I like this bit from their Forum : http://downatthemac.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=56527#ixzz1LIoNoxBR "Can't believe that after we lost 4-1 to Saints we were 3rd, 24 games and no defeats later and we're still bloody 3rd" Just goes to prove that 3 draws are really no better than one win and 2 defeats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grammy Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Good luck to Huddersfield. ****** to Bompey. Poxy tinpot Southern league outfit are already playing above their level. S*** ground, pompey wannabe fans, crap away ticket allocation. Who the f*** would really want them coming up? We put them in there place this season, game set and match, end of...for another 20 years or so hopefully. More away tickets at Hudds, proper fans and a good overnight awayday with some crackin' pubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monosaint Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I have always been impressed with Lee Clark's professionalism. Hope the Terriers can maintain their momentum in to the playoffs and join us next season. Good luck to Huddersfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Not being funny ,but what is the fuss all about them and their run? since their run started, our records look like this in the league.... Saints: won18 drawn4 lost3 scored53 conceded18 points58 Hudd: won15 drawn9 lost0 scored41 conceded18 points54 WE ARE ON A BETTER RUN THAN THEM FFS!!! Get over it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Us, Huddersfield and Brighton are head and shoulders above anyone else this season. However much they deserve it, I hope they dont go up. They have some investment behind them and are a proper football town. It'll be tough getting 6 points off them next season, whereas Boscombe, MK and Peterb will all be down the bottom and easier pickings for us. I also dont want West Ham relegated, as they'll be challanging next season. Wigan and Blackpool will be like Hull and Burnley, with only Wolves posing a threat. One of the reasons the promoted clubs did so well this year is that Burnly, Skates and Hull were all poor and nowhere near the shake up. The weaker the Championship is, the better for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthamSteve Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Us, Huddersfield and Brighton are head and shoulders above anyone else this season. However much they deserve it, I hope they dont go up. They have some investment behind them and are a proper football town. It'll be tough getting 6 points off them next season, whereas Boscombe, MK and Peterb will all be down the bottom and easier pickings for us. I also dont want West Ham relegated, as they'll be challanging next season. Wigan and Blackpool will be like Hull and Burnley, with only Wolves posing a threat. One of the reasons the promoted clubs did so well this year is that Burnly, Skates and Hull were all poor and nowhere near the shake up. The weaker the Championship is, the better for us. I agree with this, but it's high praise for Huddersfield. As much as they deserve it, I'd prefer our first year to be made as simple as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxer Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Udders deserve to go up, they missed out in the play offs last season. 3rd this season and they can mimic what Millwall did last term, and a nice short journey for Udders fans for the PO final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Us, Huddersfield and Brighton are head and shoulders above anyone else this season. However much they deserve it, I hope they dont go up. They have some investment behind them and are a proper football town. It'll be tough getting 6 points off them next season, whereas Boscombe, MK and Peterb will all be down the bottom and easier pickings for us. I also dont want West Ham relegated, as they'll be challanging next season. Wigan and Blackpool will be like Hull and Burnley, with only Wolves posing a threat. One of the reasons the promoted clubs did so well this year is that Burnly, Skates and Hull were all poor and nowhere near the shake up. The weaker the Championship is, the better for us. I think West Ham will have a 'mare next season. They have owners who seem barely interested, have proven themselves to have poor judgment in not sacking Grant ages ago and, unlike the likes of Newcastle and West Brom, most of their players are far too good to be willing to spend a year in the Championship. They will do well to make the play-offs IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeleye Saint Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 All this mutual love-in is nauseating. Fak them. Northern b-strds. We got autos and they didn't. Ha. Ha. Ha! How mature of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Yes,they did well,but we were better. Would rather see B'mouth up than Huddersfield as ,I think b'mouth would be easier for us than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 I would like to see MK Dons go up. Big club with proper fans which would make for a great away day again next season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 All this tosh about Bournemouth being easier for us next season - do you not realise that all the other teams will have to play Bournemouth (or Huddersfield) too, so where's the difference? Some of you are so thick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de-fence Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 All this tosh about Bournemouth being easier for us next season - do you not realise that all the other teams will have to play Bournemouth (or Huddersfield) too, so where's the difference? Some of you are so thick! I think you are wrong. Purely on fairness, look at this way: there are 2 promotion slots - for those finishing first and second. The team finishing third has not been good enough over the season (however well they may have finished the season) and misses out. BUT, with the play-offs, the season is extended for 4 teams finishing outside the top 2 and they are given a second chance. How can this be UNfair? For the fans the season is extended with a mini competition and a virtual cup final. It's great! And of course Bournemouth deserve to be in there with Huddersfield. They may not have finished the season with an extended unbeaten run but overall they have done brilliantly. But they failed to finish first or second - just like Huddersfield. Pot, kettle? A team that is worse than us (like Bournemouth but not necessarily Huddersfield) will most likely finish below us in the league. Understand? As for your take on the playoffs. You've basically just explained how the playoffs work and then said 'how is that not fair'. Its not fair Einstein because Huddersfield are the third best team in the league but now they have to scrap it out with teams who finished up to 15 points behind them. How can you say they finished 3rd and therefore were not good enough? They finished 3rd because they were better than the 3 teams below them, so why should they scrap it out with them. By your logic, at the end of the season the top 2 should go up, the bottom 3 should go down then the rest of the teams should have some little cup competition to see who else goes up. Ya know? Why restrict it to 4 teams? Lets let everyone have a go. So to go back to you're original point. Don't categorise people on this forum as thick. Its a subjective view. And from some of your views expressed on here, I think its fair to say some people may think you're a tad thick too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrasaint Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Of course the play-off's should be scrapped. They are a totally unfair arrangement for the FL/FA to lever more cash from Joe Fan while the teams that came third in their respective leagues on merit, are forced to submit to a lottery with the added 'bonus' of playing at Wembley, or, this year, thanks to the organising skills of the powers that be, Old Trafford -- some bonus, I'm sure. Scrap them and restore promotion on merit. I agree with you but unfortunately it is not going to happen. There are various ideas for 'tinkering' with the playoffs but I like the one suggested by a Huddersfield supporter who suggested that the format remains the same but if the scores are level after 90 mins, the team who finished the season in the highest position is the winner ie no extra time or penalties. I believe this could apply to the final as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Hope they make it, great team easily good enough for the NPC. Could be better than us actually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 I agree with you but unfortunately it is not going to happen. There are various ideas for 'tinkering' with the playoffs but I like the one suggested by a Huddersfield supporter who suggested that the format remains the same but if the scores are level after 90 mins, the team who finished the season in the highest position is the winner ie no extra time or penalties. I believe this could apply to the final as well. It's more than the money 'though as it keeps at least 10 clubs fighting all the way rather than just the top 4 or 5. Similarly at the bottom so up to 20 clubs have something to play for all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 I was doing some research on this season and saw some very interesting information if you are a Huddersfield fan Look at Hudders first half performance http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D2/fsthalf.html then compare it to their second half performance http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D2/sndhalf.html Well it makes amazing reading....especially for us Saints fans.. we have got 93 points in the second half compared 67 points in the first half....udders alternatively have 85 points in the first half and only 61 points in the second half. Conclusion - Saints are obviouisly a very fit team and keep going until the end...Udders off the back of that data can't be as fit and let themsleves down in the second half of games. Im sure the other play off teams will be looking at this data and thinking, if we can stop in the first half we have a chance Thoughts???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 I was doing some research on this season and saw some very interesting information if you are a Huddersfield fan Look at Hudders first half performance http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D2/fsthalf.html then compare it to their second half performance http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D2/sndhalf.html Well it makes amazing reading....especially for us Saints fans.. we have got 93 points in the second half compared 67 points in the first half....udders alternatively have 85 points in the first half and only 61 points in the second half. Conclusion - Saints are obviouisly a very fit team and keep going until the end...Udders off the back of that data can't be as fit and let themsleves down in the second half of games. Im sure the other play off teams will be looking at this data and thinking, if we can stop in the first half we have a chance Thoughts???? Gobbledy Gook. We have 86 points, how come we have 93 in the second half. Must be some form of projection for 45 matches based on theoretical performance. The fact is we have obtained 86 points so far from our games,each lasting 90 minutes + stopppage time, all the rest is a waste of space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonC Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Good luck to Huddersfield. ****** to Bompey. Poxy tinpot Southern league outfit are already playing above their level. S*** ground, pompey wannabe fans, crap away ticket allocation. Who the f*** would really want them coming up? We put them in there place this season, game set and match, end of...for another 20 years or so hopefully. More away tickets at Hudds, proper fans and a good overnight awayday with some crackin' pubs. Good to see that there are some of you that still care about us ..By the way Lge 1 IS our level thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Maths obviously not your strong point Window cleaner....dear oh dear....it's not rocket science. Basically the data shows how many points each team would have based on their first half performance in comparison to 2nd half. Clearly shows us and Brighton got the majority of our points in the second half, whereas udders faded badly. Absolutely not gobbledy gook...you just need half a brain...go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 .it's not rocket science. that's handy then, I'm a rocket scientist of sorts :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 How mature of you Mature enough - and old enough - to know that all this love in with Huddersfield crud is just a way of 'wow aren't we so magnanimous and honourable and mighty wonderful'. It is all utter BS. This is football and we beat them to it. Tough sh!t to them. I couldn't give a stuff about how 'plucky' they have been etc. Frankly it is patronising tosh to even mention them. I stand by what I said. Fak them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrasaint Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 I would like to see MK Dons go up. Big club with proper fans which would make for a great away day again next season! Why? They stole Wimbledon's place in the football league. Why should a town who did not previously have a notable football club suddenly appear on the scene at Championship level? I look forward to AFC Wimbledon playing them off the park at a later date!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croydonsaint Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Good luck Huddersfield, all credit to you. Kept giving me sleepless nights, just wanted you to lose at least one game. Genuinely hope you go up in play offs. Will be supporting you all the way in the play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Warrior Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 Huddersfield good luck, Bournemouth you can stay down in leaque 1. brighton can meet you there next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 7 May, 2011 Share Posted 7 May, 2011 Pot, kettle? A team that is worse than us (like Bournemouth but not necessarily Huddersfield) will most likely finish below us in the league. Understand? As for your take on the playoffs. You've basically just explained how the playoffs work and then said 'how is that not fair'. Its not fair Einstein because Huddersfield are the third best team in the league but now they have to scrap it out with teams who finished up to 15 points behind them. How can you say they finished 3rd and therefore were not good enough? They finished 3rd because they were better than the 3 teams below them, so why should they scrap it out with them. By your logic, at the end of the season the top 2 should go up, the bottom 3 should go down then the rest of the teams should have some little cup competition to see who else goes up. Ya know? Why restrict it to 4 teams? Lets let everyone have a go. So to go back to you're original point. Don't categorise people on this forum as thick. Its a subjective view. And from some of your views expressed on here, I think its fair to say some people may think you're a tad thick too. I gave you one chance to understand but you didn't take it, so here's another. This is not a subjective view, these are facts. 1. Expressed view: Bournemouth rather than Huddersfield gives us a better chance of promotion next season. No it doesn't. It might mean we finish one place higher, but we have still got to perform to the same standard of performance relative to the other teams as we would without them. 2. Expressed view: The play-offs are unfair on Huddersfield. It is possible to argue that they are an unfair way of deciding the 3rd promotion spot. But my point is that there used only to be 2 teams promoted (I accept you may be too young to remember this). The idea of the play-offs was that it extended the interest of teams and their fans whose interest in the season might otherwise be over well before the end. This can include many teams and my opinion is that this is good, very good and Saints have benefited from this - although not with actual promotion, but then we didn't finish 3rd so I suppose you would argue we were quite rightly beaten. BUT it gives the team finishing 3rd a second chance to show they are good enough - fairer than saying 'tough, have another go next year' surely? Or am I just being thick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 7 May, 2011 Share Posted 7 May, 2011 I like this bit from their Forum : http://downatthemac.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=56527#ixzz1LIoNoxBR "Can't believe that after we lost 4-1 to Saints we were 3rd, 24 games and no defeats later and we're still bloody 3rd" Just goes to prove that 3 draws are really no better than one win and 2 defeats. I can't believe how much tripe has been written on their forum by Saints fans. For example, winchestersaint:poundit: wrote: "I think I speak for the vast majority of Saints fans when I say I hope you join us next season in the Championship." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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