Going Republican

[revolution saint]

like I said..in my eyes they dont have power..they do what the government say...

 

Answer the question. They have constitutional power whether they use it or not by the lottery of birth - is that right?

Edited 29 April, 2011 by revolution saint

[Thedelldays]

Answer the question. They have constitional power whether they use it or not by the lottery of birth - is that right?

 

i dont have to answer anything you demand....I have never seen them abuse/use any powers that they may or may not have without the lead from the government of the day...

 

I would argue that MAYBE someone like the queen would be a safer pair of hands of any powers than the likes of gordon elected by the people brown....that is another arguement

[Verbal]

I would argue that MAYBE someone like the queen would be a safer pair of hands of any powers than the likes of gordon elected by the people brown....that is another arguement

 

And there we have it. The final retreat into a thoughtless, obsequious kneeling to monarchical dictatorship.

[Thedelldays]

And there we have it. The final retreat into a thoughtless, obsequious kneeling to monarchical dictatorship.

 

yes, that is exactly what it is....you boring ****k ****

 

it must burn you inside living in the UK...(if you even do)

 

a tory government

likely NO vote in AV

simply no appetite for a republic

 

like a living hell for you I should imagine...lol

Edited 29 April, 2011 by Thedelldays

[Kingsbridge Saint]

So the French, Germans, Austrians, Italians, Greeks, Americans, Chinese, and Russians are all mongs ? Not sure if the Swiss have ever had their own monarchy - true mongs surely ?

 

What are you on? Have you ever walked around Westminster Abbey or the Tower? These countries you mention have NOTHING that compares to the history and grandeur of our Monarchy. Not even close. And they are jealous as ****. If I had my way I'd have revolutionary republicans banged up in the Tower for a bit to have a think about things. And to be fair, the Monarchy couldn't have made any worse a job of running the country than Gordon Brown.

[badgerx16]

but we are not those countries..they have their own defining characteristics....one major one of ours is our royal family...that were watched today by around 2 billion people

But these other countries have plenty of 'history', the characteristic that was proposed as the reason for retaining inherited obsequiance.

[Verbal]

What are you on? Have you ever walked around Westminster Abbey or the Tower? These countries you mention have NOTHING that compares to the history and grandeur of our Monarchy. Not even close. And they are jealous as ****. If I had my way I'd have revolutionary republicans banged up in the Tower for a bit to have a think about things. And to be fair, the Monarchy couldn't have made any worse a job of running the country than Gordon Brown.

 

You need to swot up on the republican history of this country.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

Answer the question. They have constitutional power whether they use it or not by the lottery of birth - is that right?

 

and we are such a great nation that we did not need to have a revolution.

[Thedelldays]

But these other countries have plenty of 'history', the characteristic that was proposed as the reason for retaining inherited obsequiance.

 

yes, they are their own..and what we have is ours.....

[revolution saint]

i dont have to answer anything you demand....I have never seen them abuse/use any powers that they may or may not have without the lead from the government of the day...

 

I would argue that MAYBE someone like the queen would be a safer pair of hands of any powers than the likes of gordon elected by the people brown....that is another arguement

 

OK I win. Cheers, and don't forget to tug your forelock before bedtime.

[Thedelldays]

OK I win. Cheers, and don't forget to tug your forelock before bedtime.

 

well done.. you "win"

 

when's the revolution..?

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

And there we have it. The final retreat into a thoughtless, obsequious kneeling to monarchical dictatorship.

 

Like a cow moaning about not having any meat to eat. Makes no difference too his life but he is stupid and chippy. The only person I kneel to is my wife not the Royals. Just like a good occasion.

[revolution saint]

and we are such a great nation that we did not need to have a revolution.

 

WTF? come up with an argument at least!

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

OK I win. Cheers, and don't forget to tug your forelock before bedtime.

 

You just miss out on a good time.

[badgerx16]

What are you on? Have you ever walked around Westminster Abbey

YES

or the Tower ?

YES

These countries you mention have NOTHING that compares to the history and grandeur of our Monarchy.

Notre Dame, the Acropolis, The Vatican, the Winter Palace, ( have YOU ever been to Vienna ? )

Not even close. And they are jealous as ****. If I had my way I'd have revolutionary republicans banged up in the Tower for a bit to have a think about things. And to be fair, the Monarchy couldn't have made any worse a job of running the country than Gordon Brown.

Go back far enough and you find King John.

[revolution saint]

well done.. you "win"

 

when's the revolution..?

 

Erm, when everyone agrees with me....it's taken long enough with you so not for a while yet....

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

WTF? come up with an argument at least!

 

Their powers remain on paper alone but that is because they just became redundant without a shot being fired.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

YES YES Notre Dame, the Acropolis, The Vatican, the Winter Palace, ( have YOU ever been to Vienna ? )

Go back far enough and you find King John.

 

Well actually it was only Queen Vic that got us back into being a popualr monarchy.

[revolution saint]

Their powers remain on paper alone but that is because they just became redundant without a shot being fired.

 

I'd ask the question then - if they're not used should they be removed?, or do you believe in keeping them in the hands of someone purely by the lottery of birth?

[badgerx16]

Well actually it was only Queen Vic that got us back into being a popualr monarchy.

And Edward VIII nearly blew it.

[Deppo]

Am I right in thinking that the original race relations act was later changed to remove the Queen from being part of it? Why was that?

[anothersaintinsouthsea]

What are you on? Have you ever walked around Westminster Abbey or the Tower? These countries you mention have NOTHING that compares to the history and grandeur of our Monarchy. Not even close. And they are jealous as ****.

 

Wow, despite drivel that gets posted on this site every day (myself not excluded) your post reaches new levels of ignorance and arrogance. Congrats on being so ill-informed.

[hamster]

Good Lord, why oh why is the argument to keep them in place

About money?

 

We are as rich in monetary terms as the powers that bs want us to be. It's all relative.

 

Take away the money and argue whether it is right in a forward thinking nation for sonfew to have such privilege. That's what I find distasteful, privilege as a birth right.

 

Mikey, you're ways welcome on my republican bus mate

[Verbal]

"We happily put up with invaders, lunatics, serial philanderers and Germans who spoke no English so long as we could have a monarch while everybody else quietly ditched theirs. We call this perverseness tradition - even when they are socialising with colourful characters, as was Princess Margaret in the 1970s when she mixed with [notorious gangster] John Bindon, or enjoying dubious parties with oil-rich sheikhs or wealthy US paedophiles, as the Duke of York is alleged to have done." Professor Clive Bloom.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

I'd ask the question then - if they're not used should they be removed?, or do you believe in keeping them in the hands of someone purely by the lottery of birth?

 

Its a bit like being allowed to kill a welshman in Shrewsbury; I am sure it would change if it came down to it. If they tried to use it even I would be sharpening the guillotine. You would like to waste a lot of parliamentary time on this would you?

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

And Edward VIII nearly blew it.

 

Edward VIII; there have been plenty of other moments. For a long time nobody wrote an autobiography on the queen Mother because she could be tricky. You will get your time but just not now.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

"We happily put up with invaders, lunatics, serial philanderers and Germans who spoke no English so long as we could have a monarch while everybody else quietly ditched theirs. We call this perverseness tradition - even when they are socialising with colourful characters, as was Princess Margaret in the 1970s when she mixed with [notorious gangster] John Bindon, or enjoying dubious parties with oil-rich sheikhs or wealthy US paedophiles, as the Duke of York is alleged to have done." Professor Clive Bloom.

 

Another expensive vote to the change our democracy Verbal is it.

[revolution saint]

So you agree hereditary power is wrong? And don't give the argument that it's never used....in that case there would be no point in having it.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

So you agree hereditary power is wrong? And don't give the argument that it's never used....in that case there would be no point in having it.

 

Yes lets waste lots of valuable parliamentary time changing something that makes no difference.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

Good Lord, why oh why is the argument to keep them in place

About money?

 

We are as rich in monetary terms as the powers that bs want us to be. It's all relative.

 

Take away the money and argue whether it is right in a forward thinking nation for sonfew to have such privilege. That's what I find distasteful, privilege as a birth right.

 

Mikey, you're ways welcome on my republican bus mate

 

Do you think William would rather have been am ordinary person or somebody who was burdened with this duty?

[revolution saint]

Yes lets waste lots of valuable parliamentary time changing something that makes no difference.

 

Didn't answer the question, try again

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

Didn't answer the question, try again

 

You seem to have misunderstood the first word in my answer.

[Verbal]

Do you think William would rather have been am ordinary person or somebody who was burdened with this duty?

 

What? This pantomime today was a 'duty'? and don't forget, Wills is not doing ANYTHING yet. We've all got his dad to put with before that.

[revolution saint]

You seem to have misunderstood the first word in my answer.

 

Cool, so you agree that hereditary power is wrong, nice one. Welcome to the revolution brother.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

Am I right in thinking that the original race relations act was later changed to remove the Queen from being part of it? Why was that?

 

Does that mean she could make jokes about 30,000 dying in a Japanses Tsunami. Your contributions were great fun when we were all watching open mouthed in horror.

[Deppo]

Does that mean she could make jokes about 30,000 dying in a Japanses Tsunami. Your contributions were great fun when we were all watching open mouthed in horror.

 

What an interesting line of argument on a thread about the monarchy.

 

You and others have said that the royals have powers that are meaningless - the fact that she got herself removed from having to adhere to the race relations act shows that those powers are real and do affect peoples lives.

[rocknrollman no2]

What are you on? Have you ever walked around Westminster Abbey or the Tower? These countries you mention have NOTHING that compares to the history and grandeur of our Monarchy. Not even close. And they are jealous as ****. If I had my way I'd have revolutionary republicans banged up in the Tower for a bit to have a think about things. And to be fair, the Monarchy couldn't have made any worse a job of running the country than Gordon Brown.

 

I have.

I have also been on the inside of the houses of Parliament,been downstairs to see the church they have down there,been shown all around,had a tour of the inside of Big Ben and met with a lot of MPs.The whole place is reeked in history and attracts tourists from all over the world.

If we got rid of the royals tomorrow,the tourists would still come over here in their millions to visit all of the palaces and buildings etc.

[revolution saint]

What an interesting line of argument on a thread about the monarchy.

 

You and others have said that the royals have powers that are meaningless - the fact that she got herself removed from having to adhere to the race relations act shows that those powers are real and do affect peoples lives.

 

F*ck! If we've all agreed that divine right is wrong but that they've never used those powers and then found out that they have......wow.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

What an interesting line of argument on a thread about the monarchy.

 

You and others have said that the royals have powers that are meaningless - the fact that she got herself removed from having to adhere to the race relations act shows that those powers are real and do affect peoples lives.

 

You seem to have lost your wit. We seem to have gone all serious on a redundant constitutional issue and very hard line on race issues - just not Japanese ones.

[Deppo]

You seem to have lost your wit. We seem to have gone all serious on a redundant constitutional issue and very hard line on race issues - just not Japanese ones.

 

You're tired and emotional - you should go to bed. Maybe your big, royal, fun, family day has worn you out?

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

I have.

I have also been on the inside of the houses of Parliament,been downstairs to see the church they have down there,been shown all around,had a tour of the inside of Big Ben and met with a lot of MPs.The whole place is reeked in history and attracts tourists from all over the world.

If we got rid of the royals tomorrow,the tourists would still come over here in their millions to visit all of the palaces and buildings etc.

 

just would not have any weddings or funerals for that matter - that will be an emotional day believe me. Particularly as you lot will probably get your way.

[revolution saint]

You seem to have lost your wit. We seem to have gone all serious on a redundant constitutional issue and very hard line on race issues - just not Japanese ones.

 

And you've lost your argument game, set and match

[SuperMikey]

Did you listen to the whole of Dazed and Confused, I can't stick with it for 25 minutes, it's hard work.

 

I think Moby D!ck is harder work tbh - great drumming but for 20 minutes!? Brilliant album though, the version of 'Since I've Been Loving You' on there is the best live performance i've ever heard of any song.

[hamster]

Do you think William would rather have been am ordinary person or somebody who was burdened with this duty?

 

Why should he decide, turkeys voting for Christmas and all that.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

You're tired and emotional - you should go to bed. Maybe your big, royal, fun, family day has worn you out?

 

If anyone finds Deppo's sense of humour could they please return it to him. He may need it for a possible thread on Tornadoes in America should the death toll reach more than 1000.

[John Boy Saint]

I would say at 00:36 on Saturday morning yesterday was a bloody good day for UK Plc.

 

God Save the Queen

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

And you've lost your argument game, set and match

 

You must be confident of a referendum on the issue finding your in your favour. If you think no then I win.

[rocknrollman no2]

So do you agree with the class system Sergei?

Because the royal family stand for keeping the class system in place and us working class paying for them!

[revolution saint]

You must be confident of a referendum on the issue finding your in your favour. If you think no then I win.

 

I never said public opinion was the decider in what was right and wrong - reason is. Since you agree with me, or unable to form an argument against me I have to assume I win again.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

So do you agree with the class system Sergei?

Because the royal family stand for keeping the class system in place and us working class paying for them!

 

That is very old hat. The class system is repulsive something that is upheld by people normally in bright trousers. Nobody pays for the Royal family they justify themselves in terms of revenue that is why we still have them. Lets face it they are like a football team with three now possibly four star players the rest are lower league players.