Poyet compares us with Dagenham and Redbridge

[Sheaf Saint]

I just hope the bitter little man doesn't send out a team against Huddersfield so young that they'll be wearing nappies, with the aim to lose 10-0 and eradicate our superior goal difference.

 

No one would be that vindictive. Would they?

 

Somebody mentioned earlier on this thread that there has been some bad blood between Poyet and Clarke at Hudds already in the game at the Galpharm this season so I imagine he will be treating the game exactly the same as he did with ours yesterday - making up a little rivalry where none exists.

[View From The Top]

Somebody mentioned earlier on this thread that there has been some bad blood between Poyet and Clarke at Hudds already in the game at the Galpharm this season so I imagine he will be treating the game exactly the same as he did with ours yesterday - making up a little rivalry where none exists.

 

It's their last home game of the season, last game at the Withdean and they are getting their trophy. Can't see them just rolling over.

[Thedelldays]

It's their last home game of the season, last game at the Withdean and they are getting their trophy. Can't see them just rolling over.

 

someone said Lee Clark ran on the pitch at the end of the game, celebrating and waving imaginary cards around...like gus and his lot were all game..

 

come one brighton lol

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

Hang on a minute, maybe he's got a point.

 

If you watch Fonte's winning goal for example it's about as 'route one' as they come - a long free kick from the keeper/header by a big defender/jobs a goodun. It should go without saying that any team that contains footballing talent of the caliber of Adam Lallana & AOC is of course much more than some mere 'hoofball' outfit, but lets face we're not always a particularly entertaining team for the purist to watch are we ?

 

Ricky Lambert (on a good day anyway) can be a real aerial threat - but it must be said that whether a over reliance on that approach would get us very far at a higher level against bigger/quicker defenders is another question.

[Barry the Badger]

Hang on a minute, maybe he's got a point.

 

If you watch Fonte's winning goal for example it's about as 'route one' as they come - a long free kick from the keeper/header by a big defender/jobs a goodun. It should go without saying that any team that contains footballing talent of the caliber of Adam Lallana & AOC is of course much more than some mere 'hoofball' outfit, but lets face we're not always a particularly entertaining team for the purist to watch are we ?

 

Ricky Lambert (on a good day anyway) can be a real aerial threat - but it must be said that whether a over reliance on that approach would get us very far at a higher level against bigger/quicker defenders is another question.

 

We don't have an over reliance on that approach, but we do seem to know when to use it. Unlike under Pardew when we would resort to it by default when losing or under pressure.

[RobM]

IMO, the difference is tactics. Brighton have one way of playing and while that is certainly an attractive, passing game, it's just one way. If that fails, they resort to falling to the floor holding their faces.

 

Saints can play the same attractive, passing game. But if playing that way wouldn't work for the opposition at the time, we play another way. Yesterday, we did both and changed throughout the game. Tactics.

 

Football is a sport, not an art show nor a stage play. It's a sport, with winning being the ultimate aim. Anything else is a bonus.

[OldNick]

We are a big side, but we dont batter teams like the long ball sides do as RL is not that sort of forward.Poyet is amazingly petty and will not be able to cope with thew mind games of managers like Fergie etc if he evers manages a club in the higher leagues.

[Toadhall Saint]

I used to have a lot of time for Poyet - not now.

[Chez]

we play it long and short. Mixing it up makes total sense as it allows us to discover and exploit opponents weaknesses.

[(not THE) Kevin Moore]

I had a lot of time for Poyet until I read those comments. What a prize 1 classless noob!!

 

And the Brighton fans took issue with Adkins? Anyone who has seen us play would never accuse of being route one, yeah we can play it up when we need to (like Fonte's goal) but any team that contains, Lallana, Oxo, Guly, Chaplow and with 4 attacking fullbacks to choose from clearly has technical ability and when we get our passing game on we're irresistable.

 

Would love to stuff Brighton out of sight next season... WHEN we play them.

[Deppo]

I'm quite pleased with Poyet's comments. It just shows how important beating us was to him. The effort they'd all put in to wind us up (Poyet, fans, PR people) is a fantastic compliment to Saints, particularly as it came in the week after they'd won the title, when you'd think that effort would be put into celebrating.

[scotty]

The more I look at poyets comments the worse he sounds. Graceless, charmless, mannerless prat.

[grammy]

Compare Poyet's behaviour with Lee Clark at Huddersfield - an impressive, articulate and gracious young manager. Look at how his staff - McDermott - behave as well. It's a shame we are battling Hudds for second and if we do make second I hope Hudds win the play offs. There's been some banter between us and Hudds but I've got a million times more respect now for Hudds than Brighton. Shame, as I've always wished Brighton well after what Archer and Bellotti did to them but I think the excitement of winning League One has fried their brains. It's about getting promotion - we've underachieved a bit this year yet ironically we are showing our best character and determination with lots of key players injured which gives me hope for these last 4 games. Norwich won't remember winning League 1 that much in 5 years time and go up again this year and re-establish themselves as a top flight club (if Paul Lambert stays there that is more than possible).

 

This^^

Had the pleasure of meeting Lee Clarke when he was drinkinkin with the Newcastle fans at the old Victory pub by the station after a match at the Dell. Absolute top bloke, honest and great sense of humour. Good luck to Huddersfield (in the play offs I hope)

[Tac-tics]

would not surprise me if he fields a 'weaker' side at home to Huddersfield.

[Chez]

I'm quite pleased with Poyet's comments. It just shows how important beating us was to him. The effort they'd all put in to wind us up (Poyet, fans, PR people) is a fantastic compliment to Saints, particularly as it came in the week after they'd won the title, when you'd think that effort would be put into celebrating.

 

Sot on and very well put sir. They wanted to beat us and didn't. Time for us to move on to Hartlepool.

[SOTONS EAST SIDE]

They beat Portsmouth and Watford in this years FA cup.

 

He said top class, not no class!

[Deppo]

I also think Poyet will join a bigger club next year, then fail and get fired within a year.

 

When he leaves, Brighton will lose a lot of games and then go down.

[Tom28]

Got to be honest, I actually don't see too much wrong with his comments. He said we played an individual game and set the game up so it was individual battles all over the pitch, which worked for us because we have the better individuals. true. He also said that we play the same style as D&R...I can't help but think he's not too far off the mark. We have better individuals like Lambert so the style works for us. He did omit to credit the fact we have Lallana and Chamberlain and do try to play football too, but a lot of our effective football has come from a direct style.

 

Brighton play great football, can't argue with that. They will lose some games playing that way and never resorting to a direct style, but you can't argue with their results this season. They've been superb, but we got the better of them yesterday.

 

I think this is all a fuss over nothing. Its not about Brighton or Poyet. This season had ONE aim. Promotion. Winning the title would have been a bonus but its not to be. We need promotion; this club is on the up. So are Brighton. I'm pretty sure we'll be playing them in the Premier League in 3 years time. Lets keep up the rivalry til then. Its fun!

[david in sweden]

I can't believe what a sore loser he is. /QUOTE]

 

 

Is that because our inspirational manager found a system that beat his champions side

..and didn't play the game his way..with slow-footed ballboys and penalty area divers ?

 

Shame on us, spoiling his dream.

[Rich102]

Saints = Dagenham

Saints > Brighton

Dagenham > Brighton

QED

[niceandfriendly]

He also said that we play the same style as D&R...I can't help but think he's not too far off the mark.

 

I don't mean any disrespect by this but from this comment I can only assume you haven't seen us play that often this season.

 

The good thing about Adkins is he knows exactly when to play which system. Sometimes we'll play teams off the park with our free flowing, passing game and others he knows when to go direct, like the latter stages of yesterdays game.

 

We're without a doubt the best team in the league for "playing football" but we haven't been anywhere near consistent enough to win the league, hence Brighton's deserved success, and I've lost of how many times an opposition manager has said we're the best team they played this season.

 

To say we're Dagenham & Redbridge + Lambert and Barnard is wonderfully funny.

[mcjwills]

I just hope the bitter little man doesn't send out a team against Huddersfield so young that they'll be wearing nappies, with the aim to lose 10-0 and eradicate our superior goal difference.

 

No one would be that vindictive. Would they?

 

Wouldn't that be breaking FA / Football League rules?

 

 

Would be even funnier if they did that and the league then deducted then 15 points

[SuperMikey]

I'd be bitter as well if my home unbeaten record was ended at the hands of a team rife with injuries and half-fit players, especially if I had played my title-winning first XI against them.

[dune]

I'm quite pleased with Poyet's comments. It just shows how important beating us was to him. The effort they'd all put in to wind us up (Poyet, fans, PR people) is a fantastic compliment to Saints, particularly as it came in the week after they'd won the title, when you'd think that effort would be put into celebrating.

 

I agree. There are a lot of Southern clubs that love to try to be Pompey and be our rivals. Small clubs like Bournemouth and Brighton don't have derby games so I think we should forgive them their cup final moment when they play us.

[Deppo]

I agree. There are a lot of Southern clubs that love to try to be Pompey and be our rivals. Small clubs like Bournemouth and Brighton don't have derby games so I think we should forgive them their cup final moment when they play us.

 

Because you agree with me I have now changed my opinion.

[Albert Tatlock]

I also think Poyet will join a bigger club next year, then fail and get fired within a year.

 

When he leaves, Brighton will lose a lot of games and then go down.

 

Why would Poyet want to leave Brighton in the Championship next year?

[Thedelldays]

Why would Poyet want to leave Brighton in the Championship next year?

to join west ham, wolves, forest, cardiff....hell even maybe everton, villa.

[Deppo]

Why would Poyet want to leave Brighton in the Championship next year?

 

You're right. What a stupid thing to say.

[saintscottofthenortham]

Got to be honest, I actually don't see too much wrong with his comments. He said we played an individual game and set the game up so it was individual battles all over the pitch, which worked for us because we have the better individuals. true. He also said that we play the same style as D&R...I can't help but think he's not too far off the mark. We have better individuals like Lambert so the style works for us. He did omit to credit the fact we have Lallana and Chamberlain and do try to play football too, but a lot of our effective football has come from a direct style.

 

Brighton play great football, can't argue with that. They will lose some games playing that way and never resorting to a direct style, but you can't argue with their results this season. They've been superb, but we got the better of them yesterday.

 

I think this is all a fuss over nothing. Its not about Brighton or Poyet. This season had ONE aim. Promotion. Winning the title would have been a bonus but its not to be. We need promotion; this club is on the up. So are Brighton. I'm pretty sure we'll be playing them in the Premier League in 3 years time. Lets keep up the rivalry til then. Its fun!

 

You certainly don't venture down to SMS much and you clearly have no idea how Dagenham & Redbridge play.

[aintforever]

Does this mean we are going to have to make abusive banners, change our matchday programme and play amusing music next time Poyet visits SMS?

[david in sweden]

Why would Poyet want to leave Brighton in the Championship next year?

 

To be fair, Poyet has "by hook or by crook" moulded a title-winning side from a relegation-haunted side from two yearsago.

However, whilst crowing about their new (and by all accounts very nice new £20 million stadium)...they will likely have to find another 20 mill..(for new players) ...if they are to mount a seríous challenge to the CCC title next season.

 

My guess is - even if they start well , they will struggle to maintain a mid table place in 2011/12.

and if he doesn't get funds to buy, the Gus will be on the move up to somewhere bigger, brighter and more lucrative.

[paulwantsapint]

So what we can play route 1 to score if need be but we can also out pass anyone

2 teams in prem 1 tries to pass the ball into the net not won anything for 6 years other plays fast attacking football can pass but dont mind scoring direct from long balls

let brighton be arsenal we will be man utd of npc

[dune]

You're right. What a stupid thing to say.

 

 

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[Fan The Flames]

To be fair, Poyet has "by hook or by crook" moulded a title-winning side from a relegation-haunted side from two yearsago.

However, whilst crowing about their new (and by all accounts very nice new £20 million stadium)...they will likely have to find another 20 mill..(for new players) ...if they are to mount a seríous challenge to the CCC title next season.

 

My guess is - even if they start well , they will struggle to maintain a mid table place in 2011/12.

and if he doesn't get funds to buy, the Gus will be on the move up to somewhere bigger, brighter and more lucrative.

 

The ground cost £93 million and is under written by multiple millionaire Tony Bloom, so they just might have a bit of cash to splash this summer, by all accounts they pay good wages. They could do a S****horpe, a Leicester or a Norwich who knows.

[Tom28]

You certainly don't venture down to SMS much and you clearly have no idea how Dagenham & Redbridge play.

 

Wrong on both counts...I have a season ticket and I went to both the home game against D&R and the away game.

 

I fully stand by what I said...the football we play this season is nowhere near as free flowing as we played towards the end of last season. We're a lot more direct this season. We are NOT the best footballing team in the division, to think we are is simply delusional.

[benjii]

Wrong on both counts...I have a season ticket and I went to both the home game against D&R and the away game.

 

I fully stand by what I said...the football we play this season is nowhere near as free flowing as we played towards the end of last season. We're a lot more direct this season. We are NOT the best footballing team in the division, to think we are is simply delusional.

 

You are completely wrong to say we are more direct this season. That's clearly untrue.

[Deppo]

Why would Poyet want to leave Brighton in the Championship next year?

 

Apparently Kaka has signed a pre-contract agreement with Brighton now they have secured promotion to the Championship.

[ericofarabia]

Apparently Kaka has signed a pre-contract agreement with Brighton now they have secured promotion to the Championship.

 

Does this mean he's not going to Skatesmuff after all?

 

Corp Ho will be livid!!

[Chin Strain]

Wrong on both counts...I have a season ticket and I went to both the home game against D&R and the away game.

 

I fully stand by what I said...the football we play this season is nowhere near as free flowing as we played towards the end of last season. We're a lot more direct this season. We are NOT the best footballing team in the division, to think we are is simply delusional.

 

I think we can mix it up how we see fit, and how the game / opposition dictates, rather than sticking to one style. I suspect, but don't know as I wasn't there, that we mixed it up against BHA, and the more direct threat came towards the end. We were vey one dimensional last season - sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. What I would say about us this season is that we have more than a plan a. I may be wrong, but I reckon we've turned around more games this season than last. We're a decent outfit and, had we seen a repeat of the RL that we had last season, we'd have been unstoppable.

 

Anyone who witnessed BHAs performance at SMS in November would certainly not say that they play the best football. They played a cynical game aimed at wasting time. Sure, they tried to keep the ball, but that was by passing it around their back 5 deep in their half. They offered little going forward for 70 minutes. Fair play to them though as it nearly worked when the ref gave them a dubious penalty. Their game seemed to be based around tiring the opposition out by making them chase the ball and then have a go in the last 20 - I remember coming out of that game thinking that I wouldn't want to watch them week in week out.

 

Interestingly it seems as though Huddersfield have an issue with Poyet from their game in December - apparently he was waving around imaginary cards, trying to get players sent off. Lee Clark was not a happy bunny.

 

http://www.examiner.co.uk/huddersfield-town-fc/2010/12/13/huddersfield-town-boss-on-touchline-bust-up-at-antics-of-brighton-s-poyet-86081-27813484/

 

Fundamentally though, for Poyet to suggest that Dagenham would definitely be top 6 if they had RL and LB shows the type of loon that he really is. It also shows a complete lack of respect to players such as David, Fonte, Jaidi, Lallana, Oxo, Guly and Schneiderlin (to name but a few). I would imagine the D&R manager was ****ing himself laughing when he read that.

[DrZuess1979 the 2nd]

if i am not mistaken didn't the Brighton goal come from a long clearance by their goalkeeper, just that he can not kick it as far as Kelvin

[david in sweden]

The ground cost £93 million and is under written by multiple millionaire Tony Bloom, so they just might have a bit of cash to splash this summer, by all accounts they pay good wages. They could do a S****horpe, a Leicester or a Norwich who knows.

 

good grief.the price of seats has gone up.

I recall that SMS was supposed to have cost 32mill, which was about £1 million /per seat,

OK it was 10 years ago, but 93 million ? ..just how big is their new stadium?

[Matthew Le God]

good grief.the price of seats has gone up.

I recall that SMS was supposed to have cost 32mill, which was about £1 million /per seat,

OK it was 10 years ago, but 93 million ?

 

The price of steel and other building materials have massively increased since St Mary's was built over 10 years ago.

 

Edited 27 April, 2011 by Matthew Le God

[Gemmel]

? ..just how big is their new stadium?

\

 

22,000

[BLINK]

In my opinion, Poyet will be another Martinez, Di Matteo, Paoulo Souza, doing well with smaller clubs outside the prem then struggle in the big time, I just feel that his style of play wont last in the prem.

[Seagull]

IMO, the difference is tactics. Brighton have one way of playing and while that is certainly an attractive, passing game, it's just one way. If that fails, they resort to falling to the floor holding their faces.

 

Saints can play the same attractive, passing game. But if playing that way wouldn't work for the opposition at the time, we play another way. Yesterday, we did both and changed throughout the game. Tactics.

 

Football is a sport, not an art show nor a stage play. It's a sport, with winning being the ultimate aim. Anything else is a bonus.

 

I agree with you that winning is the ultimate aim. I think it's great that we (Brighton) have achieved promotion playing great football but I'd have been just as happy sneaking into the play-offs and fluking a play-off final win really. It's the end result that matters, not how you get there. Despite that, its been a joy to watch and I doubt I will ever see such a dominant Brighton side in my life time. Against average League One sides we've totally dominated possession and not given them a sniff.

 

I disagree that we only have one way of playing. If that was the case we'd have dropped more points. We have on occasions changed our style and been more direct. Throughout the season we've also consistantly adapted the formation to keep the opposition on their toes.

 

Got to be honest, I actually don't see too much wrong with his comments. He said we played an individual game and set the game up so it was individual battles all over the pitch, which worked for us because we have the better individuals. true. He also said that we play the same style as D&R...I can't help but think he's not too far off the mark. We have better individuals like Lambert so the style works for us. He did omit to credit the fact we have Lallana and Chamberlain and do try to play football too, but a lot of our effective football has come from a direct style.

 

Brighton play great football, can't argue with that. They will lose some games playing that way and never resorting to a direct style, but you can't argue with their results this season. They've been superb, but we got the better of them yesterday.

 

I think this is all a fuss over nothing. Its not about Brighton or Poyet. This season had ONE aim. Promotion. Winning the title would have been a bonus but its not to be. We need promotion; this club is on the up. So are Brighton. I'm pretty sure we'll be playing them in the Premier League in 3 years time. Lets keep up the rivalry til then. Its fun!

 

I think Poyet's comments are wrong, in the sense that there is no way Dagenham could impose themselves on us like you did. Your two centre backs and Hammond knocked the ball about very well at the back, which helped you get up the pitch and pin us back. There is no way Dagenham could do that. There is some truth after that though, as once you've got into our half, you would often look for a direct ball into the danger area. I say some truth though, as it isnt your only approach and you clearly can mix it up and play it a bit too. You played to your strengths and it won you the game, fair play no arguments. I think Gus is just trying to lift our spirits after a defeat by saying appriciate the football we play.

 

Next season in the Championship we have to get some better athletes in if we're to compete. We need to be bigger, stronger and quicker. I think you've already got that and won't need to tinker with your side as much as we will.

 

I agree with the fun and the rivalry comment too. No one actually hates Saints. It's a bit of banter, it makes the season a bit more fun. If we're close competitors it may well carry on for a bit but if we're not closely competing in the league structure it will fade away. We concentrate on Palace every week. If we werent competing with you no one would pay any attention to your results.

 

I agree. There are a lot of Southern clubs that love to try to be Pompey and be our rivals. Small clubs like Bournemouth and Brighton don't have derby games so I think we should forgive them their cup final moment when they play us.

 

See above. You're not our rivals. Palace are our rivals. Then you'd probably say there's a strong dislike of Pompey. I recall watching one of your games with Pompey in the past and us all cheering when you scored!

[View From The Top]

I'll be happy to blow smoke up your @rse and wax lyrical all day long about the "wonderful" football you play if you beat Huddersfield on Saturday.

[NickG]

I agree with you that winning is the ultimate aim. I think it's great that we (Brighton) have achieved promotion playing great football but I'd have been just as happy sneaking into the play-offs and fluking a play-off final win really. It's the end result that matters, not how you get there. Despite that, its been a joy to watch and I doubt I will ever see such a dominant Brighton side in my life time. Against average League One sides we've totally dominated possession and not given them a sniff.

 

I disagree that we only have one way of playing. If that was the case we'd have dropped more points. We have on occasions changed our style and been more direct. Throughout the season we've also consistantly adapted the formation to keep the opposition on their toes.

 

 

 

I think Poyet's comments are wrong, in the sense that there is no way Dagenham could impose themselves on us like you did. Your two centre backs and Hammond knocked the ball about very well at the back, which helped you get up the pitch and pin us back. There is no way Dagenham could do that. There is some truth after that though, as once you've got into our half, you would often look for a direct ball into the danger area. I say some truth though, as it isnt your only approach and you clearly can mix it up and play it a bit too. You played to your strengths and it won you the game, fair play no arguments. I think Gus is just trying to lift our spirits after a defeat by saying appriciate the football we play.

 

Next season in the Championship we have to get some better athletes in if we're to compete. We need to be bigger, stronger and quicker. I think you've already got that and won't need to tinker with your side as much as we will.

 

I agree with the fun and the rivalry comment too. No one actually hates Saints. It's a bit of banter, it makes the season a bit more fun. If we're close competitors it may well carry on for a bit but if we're not closely competing in the league structure it will fade away. We concentrate on Palace every week. If we werent competing with you no one would pay any attention to your results.

 

 

 

See above. You're not our rivals. Palace are our rivals. Then you'd probably say there's a strong dislike of Pompey. I recall watching one of your games with Pompey in the past and us all cheering when you scored!

 

In short, watching every game at St Marys this season:

Saints - played some lovely football

Brighton - least attractive an interested in playing good football of any team, did well to get 1 point off us this season.

 

Adkins matched Poyet and out thought him in head to head games.

[Red&White]

But our manager does not wave imaginery cards to influence the ref, or encouage fake dramatics to see opponents sent off. What would you like to say to that Gus, you ugly cheating bastard ?

 

This............... ha ha up your poop chute Poyet !

[jawillwill]

We're like Dagenham without Rickie.

[the colonel]

We're like Dagenham without Rickie.

 

 

and we play hoof ball!!!

 

Would Love to ask him if we played hoof ball yesterday