NickG Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2342370,00.html
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 alberto seidi? Where did he come from? Is he a signing in the same sense as Jack Stephens?
farawaysaint Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 alberto seidi? Where did he come from? Is he a signing in the same sense as Jack Stephens? Considering the OS calls him "Portugal based" I imagine so.
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2342370,00.html Is it acedemy because of the quality of the output?
sambosa75 Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 It's great news for the lads. I thought this news would be coming out soon because my nephew was given a new two year contract with the academy last week so it must be renewal time. Congratulations to all who were kept on.
S-Clarke Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 I don't believe this, I only believe what the Crystal Palace fan said a few weeks ago (we were in dire financial trouble, and all our academy kids had been released). He knows more. (Good news btw)
sambosa75 Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 Considering the OS calls him "Portugal based" I imagine so. Fantastic news if the club has started expanded the scouting network at youth level globally again. Can only bode well for the future.
doughnutman Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 They were paraded before the crowd at the Rovers game, meant to put up a thread about it as hadn't heard of Seidi, Rowe or Johns before. Good to see lots of youngsters coming through
eelpie Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 We'll walk League One next year.... ......with our Academy team!
trousers Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 Is anyone else feeling much older this morning having seen those academy photos?
farawaysaint Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 Is anyone else feeling much older this morning having seen those academy photos? No, but when I see 17 year olds in the champions league or the world cup I feel like changing my name to Methuzela.
Huntingdon Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 I owe an apology to my mate He told me we had a striker who qualifies for both Portugal and an African nation, and will eventually become a top PL striker Needless to say I totally ridiculed him, its Alberto Seidi Whether he becomes PL class or not, who knows, but apparantely he chose us instead of Braga
Saint Charlie Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 (edited) Good news, nice to see some good, proactive scouting taking place. http://www.welshfootballtrust.org.uk/news-event/news/12707 - Match report about the goalie Edited 20 April, 2011 by Saint Charlie
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 What about Lloyd Foot ? The centre half (holder spooner or hogan wallace or something) and Jake sinclair ? Those three have been talked about as being the next big thing ? are they too young still ? Anyway, great great news IMO
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 Seidi looks like a mini Guly! I thought that lol
Saint Charlie Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 (edited) What about Lloyd Foot ? The centre half (holder spooner or hogan wallace or something) and Jake sinclair ? Those three have been talked about as being the next big thing ? are they too young still ? Anyway, great great news IMO Think some of them have pro contracts. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2228492,00.html Edited 20 April, 2011 by Saint Charlie
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 Think some of them have pro contracts. I expect MLG will let us all know soon
doughnutman Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 What about Lloyd Foot ? The centre half (holder spooner or hogan wallace or something) and Jake sinclair ? Those three have been talked about as being the next big thing ? are they too young still ? Anyway, great great news IMO Holder-Spooner has been told he can find a new club and is having trials with Bournemouth I believe
Saint Charlie Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 Holder-Spooner has been told he can find a new club and is having trials with Bournemouth I believe He played in a couple of friendlies. Ward Prowse and Sinclair are already on pro deals (see link a couple of posts above)
Saint-Armstrong Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 Foot has been told the same, he can go, as has the goalkeeper, Jack Dovey.
Saint Charlie Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 Foot has been told the same, he can go, as has the goalkeeper, Jack Dovey. Foot seemed highly rated - but I trust the club to make the right call.
Doctoroncall Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 A shame the U-18s lost to Fulham to fall 4 points behind them in League A but I suppose at that stage as long as they keep learning and improving the U-18 league results will be irrelevant for first team appearances and successes.
Doctoroncall Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 Foot seemed highly rated - but I trust the club to make the right call. I'm sure there will be mistakes made along the way but hopefully the impact will not be felt when it comes to first team achievements.
VectisSaint Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 It's great news for the lads. I thought this news would be coming out soon because my nephew was given a new two year contract with the academy last week so it must be renewal time. Congratulations to all who were kept on. Interesting that the OS says the majority come from the Academy, but in fact 4 of the mentioned 7 were not academy based. Good to see that we are going back to the days of signing young talent from wherever we can instead of just relying on the academy itself. The academy is excellent, but when you narrow your catchment area down as the academy does (and to make matters worse half our catchment area is in the Solent/English Channel) it can be a bit limiting. Even one of the others is from the Bath Satellite (as was Gareth Bale amongst others) - by the way this particular lad looks about 10, needs to get a new picture taken and look a bit harder :-)
Chez Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 any of those lads locally born or based? Congratulations to all of them. Even making that grade is something very special indeed. Hope they all go on to great things with one or two perhaps sticking around if they do!
Window Cleaner Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 Even one of the others is from the Bath Satellite (as was Gareth Bale amongst others) - by the way this particular lad looks about 10, needs to get a new picture taken and look a bit harder :-) Looks like something out of Home Alone, a few tattoos should make him look a bit hard.
Saint Charlie Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 any of those lads locally born or based? Congratulations to all of them. Even making that grade is something very special indeed. Hope they all go on to great things with one or two perhaps sticking around if they do! Robinson is a Bournemouth lad and Hoskins Dorchester.
The9 Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 To be honest if this news tells me anything, it's that I haven't got a bloody clue how our academy works from a contract perspective, or in terms of the Year 1/2/3 etc structure - other than the player having to be 17 to sign a pro deal and probably having the chance to be there for years before (or not, as with some of this lot). So can someone recap ? Are there 4 years of Academy and then it's "become pro" or "get released" ? What's the difference between the apprentice and the others ? I assume people can be recruited and join at any point along the way..? What's the satellite stuff ? I get that we can only recruit within a particular area, so is it related to that and linked to their age and amount of travelling they are allowed to do ?
Saint Charlie Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 To be honest if this news tells me anything, it's that I haven't got a bloody clue how our academy works from a contract perspective, or in terms of the Year 1/2/3 etc structure - other than the player having to be 17 to sign a pro deal and probably having the chance to be there for years before (or not, as with some of this lot). So can someone recap ? Are there 4 years of Academy and then it's "become pro" or "get released" ? What's the difference between the apprentice and the others ? I assume people can be recruited and join at any point along the way..? What's the satellite stuff ? I get that we can only recruit within a particular area, so is it related to that and linked to their age and amount of travelling they are allowed to do ? We have the Bath centre so we have somewhere to hold sessions for players we have spotted in the South West where there is not a whole load of competition. Then can bring them in centrally when they reach 15/16.
SoccerMom Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 Hoskins Dorchester. Raised in Southampton - went to Highfield Primary and Cantell.
saintds Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 Speaking of the Academy.....Theo & G Bale going toe-to-toe at White Hart LOL tonight. What did we sell them for in the end? I know we accepted reduced lump sums in the end.
Deppo Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 I had a look at the list. I hadn't really heard of any of those players. I'd prefer it if we made a decent 'marquee' signing, would've have given us a boost for Saturday.
Dogs Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 Releasing Lloyd Foot could come back and haunt the saints!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Deppo Posted 20 April, 2011 Posted 20 April, 2011 Are we only going to have 6 players in our youth team? How are we going to make up the numbers? Do some of the reserves from the full squad drop down or do they just play 6-a-side?
Thedelldays Posted 21 April, 2011 Posted 21 April, 2011 Are we only going to have 6 players in our youth team? How are we going to make up the numbers? Do some of the reserves from the full squad drop down or do they just play 6-a-side? yeah, its 6-a-side and no one keeps score.
Over land and sea Posted 24 April, 2011 Posted 24 April, 2011 If Jack Dovey, Lloyd Foot and Jordace Holder-Spooner are all being released I would assme that, since they have not been offered deals, Lee Nicholas and Ben Martin are too. They signed for the academy at the same time and are the same age. That would leave a youth squad of 19 for next season (plus anyone signed on over the summer), made up of some on pro contracts and some not Goalkeepers Chris Johns Steven Mowthorpe Defenders Jack Stephens Luke Shaw Jordan Turnball Daniel Bowman Conor O'Sullivan Matt Young Midfielders Andy Robinson James Ward-Prowse Calum Chambers Harrison Reed Joe Curtis Corby Moore Omar Rowe Wingers Lloyd Isgrove Forwards Sam Hoskins Alberto Seidi Jake Sinclair
david in sweden Posted 24 April, 2011 Posted 24 April, 2011 (edited) Are we only going to have 6 players in our youth team? How are we going to make up the numbers? Do some of the reserves from the full squad drop down or do they just play 6-a-side? it's abit complicated now. 1- we don't have a "reserve side " but the upside being that we can arrange as many friendlies as we want with an U21 side and exception for over age players, and everyone can get an "airing ". 2- Some Academy have started very early - even as U12s - and the U16 side has talent, too. U18 side (third year Academy) can have 16, 17 or 18 year olds in it. Allowing for injuries, loss of form etc, you can't have enough youngsters..but the real crunch comes when they reach 18 ..and haven't (made the grade) impressed enough to be challenging for a first team spot. Those who did and gone before are well-known names. Bridge, Walcott, Blackstock, Bale, Surman, Lallana, Alex Chamberlain...and now even with Gobern and Doble on the horizon. Of course we have " caught a cold " over the years and had a few slip through the net...Dennis Wise and Kevin Phillips (as teenagers) in the 1980's are prime examples....as some players tend to mature " late-on " in their mid 20's rather than as teenagers. It must be very hard to look at a youth player and say .."he's not going to make it " ..but it has to be done. You can only hope we get it right. For most of them, a career in L1 / L2, or Conference is the most likely outcome..and if someone has to go ..it's good to get £10 million for them beforehand, then it doesn't feel quite so bad if they end up playing in the Premiership with someone else. Edited 24 April, 2011 by david in sweden
supersonic Posted 24 April, 2011 Posted 24 April, 2011 If Jack Dovey, Lloyd Foot and Jordace Holder-Spooner are all being released I would assme that, since they have not been offered deals, Lee Nicholas and Ben Martin are too. They signed for the academy at the same time and are the same age. That would leave a youth squad of 19 for next season (plus anyone signed on over the summer), made up of some on pro contracts and some not Goalkeepers Chris Johns Steven Mowthorpe Defenders Jack Stephens Luke Shaw Jordan Turnball Daniel Bowman Conor O'Sullivan Matt Young Midfielders Andy Robinson James Ward-Prowse Calum Chambers Harrison Reed Joe Curtis Corby Moore Omar Rowe Wingers Lloyd Isgrove Forwards Sam Hoskins Alberto Seidi Jake Sinclair I swear Curtis, Rowe and Chambers are Wingers too? Curtis played left wing in the under 18 cup game v Thurrock at SMS. And we have a very very strong academy side, most of which are still a year or two too young for the under 18's, like this season, but can still compete. I'd be interested to see what Alberto Seidi is like, I wonder if he is the same class as Ward-Prowse or Sinclair. Isgrove is one also I've tipped to play for the first team in the next few seasons, very quick, agile, tricky winger.
Matthew Le God Posted 24 April, 2011 Posted 24 April, 2011 If Jack Dovey, Lloyd Foot and Jordace Holder-Spooner are all being released I would assme that, since they have not been offered deals, Lee Nicholas and Ben Martin are too. They signed for the academy at the same time and are the same age. That would leave a youth squad of 19 for next season (plus anyone signed on over the summer), made up of some on pro contracts and some not Goalkeepers Chris Johns Steven Mowthorpe Defenders Jack Stephens Luke Shaw Jordan Turnball Daniel Bowman Conor O'Sullivan Matt Young Midfielders Andy Robinson James Ward-Prowse Calum Chambers Harrison Reed Joe Curtis Corby Moore Omar Rowe Wingers Lloyd Isgrove Forwards Sam Hoskins Alberto Seidi Jake Sinclair Dovey, Foot, Holder-Spooner, Nicholas, Martin, Isgrove, Hoskins, Robinson are already over 18 years old. They are all too old to play in the academy teams next season whether they have a new contract or not.
Marsdinho Posted 24 April, 2011 Posted 24 April, 2011 I thought foot was the next big thing ?? Your're thinking of Bigfoot.
hamster Posted 25 April, 2011 Posted 25 April, 2011 There used to be a 1 hour from training facility rule [sic] a few years back. I remember my nephew being on Charlton's books but he had to switch to Gillingham when they realised it was taking him nearly two hours to get to their place. Im sure that Saints had a training camp at Martin Mill near Deal at one point too.
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 26 April, 2011 Posted 26 April, 2011 What about Lloyd Foot ? The centre half (holder spooner or hogan wallace or something) and Jake sinclair ? Those three have been talked about as being the next big thing ? are they too young still ? Anyway, great great news IMO We need a bigger name.
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