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Hampshire have offered him a new contract but he has not responded yet. They want him for next year

 

doesn't make much difference anyway, always injured or at the IPL or 1 day internationals.

We need players who'll be available for 12 or so Championship games and a goodly number of limited overs games.

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Tony Pigot the ECB pitch inspector was called in this morning to inspect the wicket and stayed all day. ECB were alerted by the Umpires, presumably because it was a used wicket. I spoke to Tony as he arrived this morning. I did not speak to him again before I left as he has previously told me he is unable to discuss his findings with the Umpires or the Club.

 

Although 13 wickets today I saw nothing in the wicket to suggest it was dangerous or will pick up a penalty.

 

Spoke to Dimi. He had a small flair up of his previous injury and is out of this game purely as a precaution. Should be ok by the weekend. He told me Kabir Ali also has a small reaction to his previous injury.

 

Excellent batting from McKenzie to day. Real class. Shame no one could hold on until he got his 100 but bearing in mind the position we found ourselves, 213 is a good score particularly as Wood took 3 wickets before the close and Griffiths looked fast and dangerous.

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Although odds-on we will probably go down thiis season, in 30 years of supprting Hants this has to be the best crop of young players. Bates, Briggs, Woods, Vince, Dawson, Howell, there may even be others coming through. Hope we can keek em all. It's not all doom and gloom.

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Lot of issues with this game.

 

It was only turning from the pavillion end when I spoke to Tahir yesterday afternoon. Tahir given 2 warnings for running on the pitch from the Pavillion end today. One more and he would have been banned from bowling further in the match so he had to be taken off but bowled from the Northern end.

 

Much has been said about the wicket and the possibility of a points deduction. I spoke to Rod Bransgrove today. He said it was a poor pitch but not one deserving of a points deduction but that we would have to accept any finding.

 

He was aware of the Telegraph article quoted in an above post. They were in discussion with ECB.

 

As for the game itself a draw was the outside result this morning. Notts losing 3 early wickets meant they were always going to shut up shop until late on. They nearly won it but a draw was a fair result.

 

Positives from this match was Bates & Wood batting in both innings added to Wood and Briggs bowling. These young players showed we have talent.

 

Relegation looks likely but with 7 matches still to go we can still turn this round.

 

If we are docked points for a wicket that lasted, where all three results were possible going into the final hour and where there were no dangerous lift or unusual turn, then the pitch panel are asses.

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What a ****ing joke! Some bloke gets 97 not out and We get an 8 point deduction for a poor pitch This is ****ing insane I've never heard of anything like it. I mean we are probably relegated anyway, but this is bonkers. Everyone winges about bland pitches, we produce one that delivers a barnstorming game and we get the, ' Royal Screw Job' what a load of ****. Rant over.Please someone agree with me!!!

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Okay I may not be the most knowledgeable person about cricket on here, but when the shortest innings last 65 overs with a score of 171 (and it's the homes sides innings) that's hardly a sign of substandard wicket surely?

 

Was it dangerous? no, not as far as I'm aware as it was 'excessive spin' (wtf?)

Did it cause the game to not go the full distance? no - it was a draw and even had they not lost the first day to rain, it would have gone into the final day,

Was it different for both sides? no, we both batted & bowled on the same pitch

 

so what is the problem ? ah yes, we owe them dough for the Sri Lanka test!

 

Edit: What would they make of that game at Old Trafford in the 50's against the Aussies, strip Lancashire of their right to play Ashes test because a spinner takes 19 wickets in a game? Jim Laker would be turning (or probably spinning) in his grave!

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Who cares - we're relegated anyway. Maybe if we had played some of our younger, home grown players from the start instead of foreign mercenaries like de Wet and others we would not be in this position. Sounds like they showed more fight and guts than the senior players have done all season.

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Who cares - we're relegated anyway. Maybe if we had played some of our younger, home grown players from the start instead of foreign mercenaries like de Wet and others we would not be in this position. Sounds like they showed more fight and guts than the senior players have done all season.

 

Exactly, apart from 20/20 success which is all that seems to count at HCC just now this season has been a complete joke.

We were already deducted 2 points in the T20 league for a bad pitch last season. We have no effective fast bowlers, just Briggs and Tahir so we try to arrange for them to take loads of wickets to cover for our embarrassing bowling. HCC has become a shambles and we can't even pay for the test match that we so desperatey wanted.

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Who cares - we're relegated anyway. Maybe if we had played some of our younger, home grown players from the start instead of foreign mercenaries like de Wet and others we would not be in this position. Sounds like they showed more fight and guts than the senior players have done all season.

Yeah can't argue with that, we bottled it this year. The lads who helped us win the 20-20 last year should have replaced Pothas, Cork, Ervine even maybye Dimi, but for some reason we didn't have the faith in all of them. Look at what Wood has done in this game.

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Whilst I am bitterly disappointed it was an event waiting to happen. It is difficult to blame Nigel, the Head Groundsman, alone as it would have been Giles White who made the decision he wanted to play on this pitch.

 

The deduction does not suprise me in view of the events leading up to the deduction.

 

First Sky were at the previous game and were aware, as were the supporters, that we were going to use the wicket for a 4 day game after a 40/40 with few overs lost to weather. I did not hear it, as I was at the game, but I am told Atherton said something like "If the Notts team are watching this, pack your coach with spinners!"

 

The first day was lost to rain after the toss and teams announced.

 

When I arrived on the second day I bumped into the pitch inspector and said "Hello Tony, what are you doing here, I did not see you yesterday" His reply was "no, not here yesterday, I was called in by the ECB"

 

ECB send their inspectors to first days of games without cause, just to see how a wicket performs but on this occasion it was the umpires who must have contacted the ECB on the first day wash out. Therefore they had concerns before a ball was bowled. Never a good sign.

 

When Tony turned up the next day as well the writing was very much on the wall. We spoke about the Lords 22 wickets in a day and he explained that a pitch panel was called after that day but it was decided the wickets were due to atmospheric conditions and poor batting and not as a result of a poor wicket (no suprise there!!!!!)

 

Yesterday the panel arrived before the game so a further bad sign of things to come.

 

This was a sub standard pitch, most in the game would agree, but it made for entertaining cricket. Was it a poor pitch within the rules.....the panel seemed to think so but many spectatorts I spoke to over the 3 days play will not agree. Back to the boring no result piches? I hope not. The paying public will continue to turn their backs on the game.

 

When will we get a fair decision in our favour at the Rosebowl!!

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sadly I would suggest we will not get another test. The established test grounds will use our non payment to get us out of the reckoning.It is a misjudgement not to pay up in time. I know Pomey get away with such things but they wouldnt in cricket. The old school ties will be jumping with joy, scratching us off the list.

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sadly I would suggest we will not get another test. The established test grounds will use our non payment to get us out of the reckoning.It is a misjudgement not to pay up in time. I know Pomey get away with such things but they wouldnt in cricket. The old school ties will be jumping with joy, scratching us off the list.

 

perhaps not paying up on time isn't a calcuated decision, HCC probably doesn't have the money.I don't think the game was all that well attended and the weather wasn't great (is it anywhere this "summer"?).Sri Lanka aren't a great draw and 2 million + is a lot of money.

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Too right, as I said in my previous post an an absolutely insane decision. One boke makes 97 no, the game ould have gone into a fourth day, and not even 40 wickets fell in three Days! Mental. There has to be more to this than meets the eye. I fear that Rob Bransgrove (biggest Hants legend in last 40 year other than Malcolm Marshall imo) has probably rubbed someone up the wrong way. Absolute travesty! 8 points or not we were going down anyway, but it's the repurcussions for county cricket that bothers me. It' gonna be bland wickets from here on..absolye load of ********, this needs investigating.

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Too right, as I said in my previous post an an absolutely insane decision. One boke makes 97 no, the game ould have gone into a fourth day, and not even 40 wickets fell in three Days! Mental. There has to be more to this than meets the eye. I fear that Rob Bransgrove (biggest Hants legend in last 40 year other than Malcolm Marshall imo) has probably rubbed someone up the wrong way. Absolute travesty! 8 points or not we were going down anyway, but it's the repurcussions for county cricket that bothers me. It' gonna be bland wickets from here on..absolye load of ********, this needs investigating.

 

Probably true. But if by chance Hants go down by a margin of 8 points or less this decision will be a very bitter pill to swallow.

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Too right, as I said in my previous post an an absolutely insane decision. One boke makes 97 no, the game ould have gone into a fourth day, and not even 40 wickets fell in three Days! Mental. There has to be more to this than meets the eye. I fear that Rob Bransgrove (biggest Hants legend in last 40 year other than Malcolm Marshall imo) has probably rubbed someone up the wrong way. Absolute travesty! 8 points or not we were going down anyway, but it's the repurcussions for county cricket that bothers me. It' gonna be bland wickets from here on..absolye load of ********, this needs investigating.
No, this has nothing to do with Rod Bransgrove rubbing someone up the wrong way. It is the rules on poor pitches that are wrong rather than the interpretation. Rod Bransgrove said on Solent that the panel decision was honest by fair minded people. This is not just the official view for the media, he expressed similar to me on the final morning when I chatted with him on the subject.
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No, this has nothing to do with Rod Bransgrove rubbing someone up the wrong way. It is the rules on poor pitches that are wrong rather than the interpretation. Rod Bransgrove said on Solent that the panel decision was honest by fair minded people. This is not just the official view for the media, he expressed similar to me on the final morning when I chatted with him on the subject.

Sorry mate just can't agree. I really enjoy reading your posts, and your one of the best sources of Hants news...but this whole thing stinks. Cricinfo the most respected cricket site on the web thinks it's ********, I think it's ********, in your heart of hearts you must think it's ********. Do you honestly beleive the same penalty would have been applied if it was Surrey or Middlesex. No way. The game was a draw! It would have gone into a fourth day! Man i'm gonna let this go now!

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I have been following Hants. Its been a poor season so far and we are well adrift at the bottom . Have we been unlucky with games

probably but some of our batsmen seem to be out form for way too long. I saw our score lastnight and it just goes to show that if we apply ourselves correctly we can get very good scores.

 

Still we are in with a shout for retaining the 2020 cup

 

Is relegation from div one such a bad thing?

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Of course they do. The club will be devistated. The players will be devistated, some of them have told me as much, and the supporters want to see the best against the best.

 

devestated or not it was going to happen from the first couple of games onwards, when you can't finish off tailenders you don't win matches and you get relegated.

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