keithd Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 That heavy defeat against Surrey was quite nicely timed i think. BIt of a kick up the 'arris to show we aint invincible, and better to get a poor display out of the way before the knock out stages (obviously). If memory serves we played Warwicks in last years quarters after they went through their qualifying group with only 1 defeat and spanked their bottoms. Back to a good performance yesterday, lets hope that continues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Hampshire team v Sussex Monday - Thursday JHK Adams, MA Carberry, LA Dawson, ND McKenzie, JM Vince, SM Ervine, DG Cork*, DR Briggs, AM Bates†, Kabir Ali, Imran Tahir We won the toss and bat Only two seamers in our side with Ervine as back up. Two spinners with Dawson as back up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Carberry out for 2 from 16 balls - ouch. Hope he gets going in the 2nd innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 126/5 off 47.2 as I type...we'd probably fare better in the CC if we treated it like a Twenty20... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Saint Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 We have a stupidly long tail for this game too. Doubt we'll make 200. ****ing brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Well we made 200... 201/9 off 78 at the mo. Still very, very poor though. Dawson's 38 the top score. But if our bowlers can get amongst them, who knows? (Optimist? Me?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 206ao. Wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 We have them at 11 -2 thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 (edited) We have them at 11 -2 thought! Without wanting to sound like a doom-merchant what is the betting we have them rocking at 100-5 or something like that and they then make 300+ ??? Edited 11 July, 2011 by Crab Lungs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 lol, we have been very good at that this season Lungs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 lol, we have been very good at that this season Lungs... That's my worry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 I simply do not understand why we are so bad in the CC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 I was talking to my best mate,who played in -The Southern League for years,and like most of us on this thread he is totally non plussed with our batting in the CC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 12 July, 2011 Share Posted 12 July, 2011 So, Sussex move to 106/4 approaching lunch, Prior out for only 5, Wells the opening still there on 47no. They're scoring slower than we did (2.46 v 2.57) and have lost 1 more wicket than us at this point. So, expect that tail to wag big time this afternoon...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 12 July, 2011 Share Posted 12 July, 2011 125-5 at lunch with Wells out for 49 On another front David Balcombe on loan to kent has just taken 5 wickets in the second innings to add to his 2 in the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 12 July, 2011 Share Posted 12 July, 2011 125-5 at lunch with Wells out for 49 On another front David Balcombe on loan to kent has just taken 5 wickets in the second innings to add to his 2 in the first. Afridi out of the T20 on Friday as has flown home to Pakistan as his dad is ill. How come players are doing so well away from Hampshire...Jones, Balcombe what is wrong as we couldnt buy a wicket in the CC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithd Posted 12 July, 2011 Share Posted 12 July, 2011 Christ, Panesar in at 9. How bad are Anyon and Khan (at 10 and 11) then??!! 167/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 12 July, 2011 Share Posted 12 July, 2011 Well they got a lead of 34 and now we're 32 for 1. I don't like the look of this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 12 July, 2011 Share Posted 12 July, 2011 Is now a one innings game,at least one player has to get a big hundred.I must agree with the sentiments of Leicestersaint,as the batting in the four day game ,maybe Dawson apart has been totally pathetic this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 12 July, 2011 Share Posted 12 July, 2011 (edited) First you have to remember that this is the wicket that was used for our T20 on Sunday, is looking two paced and is taking spin. We have 2 days to go and we have two world class spinners to Sussex one. Monyy was called into action in over 7 of this innings. That should tell you a lot about the wicket. Without any prolonged rain this looks a result game and providing we take it carefully we should have the upper hand. Edit 61-2 at the close. Edited 12 July, 2011 by Weston Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Saint Posted 12 July, 2011 Share Posted 12 July, 2011 Was there today. Pitch very worn and 220-250 will probably be a pretty tough 4th innings chase on that. Very loose shot from Dawson to get out just before the close. Would have said we were slightly shading it if we were only one down at close of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Saint Posted 13 July, 2011 Share Posted 13 July, 2011 Good rally by our tail sets Sussex 233 to win. Should be interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithd Posted 13 July, 2011 Share Posted 13 July, 2011 Innings scores getting higher, dont bode well! Berkshire said its worn and turning, altho Monty only got 3 wickets I'm still hoping our turners will do the honours and get us a win. I'm going for a win by 18 runs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 13 July, 2011 Share Posted 13 July, 2011 Danny Briggs captures his 100th first class wicket in only 29 matches at age 20. Sussex 65/3 requiring another 168 to win....game on. Hampshire now favourites particularly as the last wicket was Goodwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 13 July, 2011 Share Posted 13 July, 2011 Would it be fair to call this a must win match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Yes Mark it would, Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Have we got the bowling power? It looks like a tight finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 113-4... Sussex need another 120 to win... c'mon Hampshire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Well, that's f()cked then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Do you think anyone cares, on this site or at the Club? I do, but who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Now that Hants are as good as relegated perhaps they might start playing some more of the home grown crop like Wood and Howells - and put players like Ervine out to pasture. And what on earth was the signing of those 2 Kolpaks about? What a disappointing season and just goes to show money can't buy success....there is no substitute for hunger and team spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Oh dear oh dear. We are going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Absolutely devastating blow as we had put ourselves in a position last evening where we should have won today. Tahir was banned from bowling the rest of the innings after running down the wicket this morning. Ali was not used by Cork “as a precaution” so I assume he was carrying an injury. We went into this game one bowler short and we have paid the price. Eight games to go and we need to win at least 4 of them. Not impossible but improbable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Hmmm, can still be done but I wouldn't be throwing the youngsters in just yet. Besides, I'm really not sure if Howell is good enough and is a prospect, unlike Briggs, Wood etc. All season we've really lacked the belief to hit anything past 300 or any killer instinct to finish teams that are practically on the ropes. Very, very frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 No ones bothered about anything except the 20/20. As for the young ones, they get crowded out by journeymen and I won't blame them if they do a Tremlett and buzz off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 Hmmm, can still be done but I wouldn't be throwing the youngsters in just yet. Besides, I'm really not sure if Howell is good enough and is a prospect, unlike Briggs, Wood etc. All season we've really lacked the belief to hit anything past 300 or any killer instinct to finish teams that are practically on the ropes. Very, very frustrating. No not really, it can't be done.It couldn't be done from he day we lost to Worcs.That was the must win game and our bowling made sure that we had no chance whatsoever. Until we find a genuinely decent bowler who can rout tails and scare 6s,7s and 8s into daft strokes we will struggle in 4 day (real) cricket. Those of you who saw Derek Shackleton, Andy Roberts and Malcolm Marshall will know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 And Butch White! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsdan Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 No not really, it can't be done.It couldn't be done from he day we lost to Worcs.That was the must win game and our bowling made sure that we had no chance whatsoever. Until we find a genuinely decent bowler who can rout tails and scare 6s,7s and 8s into daft strokes we will struggle in 4 day (real) cricket. Those of you who saw Derek Shackleton, Andy Roberts and Malcolm Marshall will know what I mean. While I don't disagree with you that we are struggling to bowl sides out, which hasn't been helped by Tahir and the entire seam attack struggling with injuries at some point this season, I think the batting is a bigger problem. We have an average first innings score of 260 this year which isn't nearly enough and have only passed 300 three times in either innings of eight games so the bowlers have never had anything to bowl at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 While I don't disagree with you that we are struggling to bowl sides out, which hasn't been helped by Tahir and the entire seam attack struggling with injuries at some point this season, I think the batting is a bigger problem. We have an average first innings score of 260 this year which isn't nearly enough and have only passed 300 three times in either innings of eight games so the bowlers have never had anything to bowl at. But you only have to look at the last game to see that I'm right, we had Sussex in trouble at about 180/8 and with a decent mop up bowler we could have had a first innings lead on a difficult pitch.But no,we allowed them to pick up another 60 or so for the loss of a couple of tail-enders, spinners aren't always effective against strong arm sloggers at 9 and 10 you know, the finer points of batting are lost on them,they don't play strokes,they slam the ball over midwicket if they can.I am not a fan of too many spinners in the side, what I want to see is a real fast bowler or a Shackleton stereotype with a vast range of balls and unerring accuracy, if you missed against the Shack the ball hit the stumps or you were lbw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 The main problem in the 4 day game is the batting. Dawson apart[and even he has struggled since coming back from injury],the top 6 batting has been awful,whether it is the case of them all being out of form at the same time is debatable. Maybe one or two or even three are past their sell by date.[i hope this is not the case]. Myburgh and De Wet have to be two of the worst kolpak signings of all time for any county. Even if we had only got him in for the second half of the season surely Chanderpaul plus Chris Gayle for the first couple of months for the first half of the season would have been a better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 There really has been some strange decisions at the club. Myburg and De Wet being only one. Why spend so much time on rehabilitating Jones just to loan him back to Glamorgan ? Why sign Ali when clearly he is not fit ? Why did Tremlett feel the need to leave to better his game ? Letting Lumb go to the IPL when he only played for a few minutes ? etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 16 July, 2011 Share Posted 16 July, 2011 Great shame last night as there was a good crowd. We were flying along as well with Ervine and McKenzie in full flow nearly 9 an over. Bloody rain!! I agree with you Manji...our recruitment in the last few years has been awful. I wonder if its something else....Tremlett, Jones and even young Balcombe takes wickets elsewhere. Plus look at how many injuries we get....Lumb for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 QF date now confirmed as Sunday 7th August at 5pm Also Jones loan deal with Glamorgan extended a further 2 weeks until the end of July Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 QF date now confirmed as Sunday 7th August at 5pm Also Jones loan deal with Glamorgan extended a further 2 weeks until the end of July good to see you check the Hampshire site regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 Manji, Weston does in fact hear things but is always very discreet about what he does or doesn't post especially if he is asked not to say anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 good to see you check the Hampshire site regularly.Corect Manji, that is where I got the information on this occasion. Ground naming rights being negotiated at the moment and may be announced in a few weeks. Don't know who as it is a close secret until it is completed. Saint in Paradise, who knows me personally is also correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 Corect Manji, that is where I got the information on this occasion. Ground naming rights being negotiated at the moment and may be announced in a few weeks. Don't know who as it is a close secret until it is completed. Saint in Paradise, who knows me personally is also correct. Do you think it's a bit late to be naming the ground? It's been the Rose Bowl for so long and that's how everyone refers to it. A bit like when Rupert wanted the Friends Provident Stadium. Everyone still called it St Marys. I suppose that the sponsor pays for his name to appear in newspaper reports and on TV. The ordinary fan will still call it the Rose Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 Do you think it's a bit late to be naming the ground? It's been the Rose Bowl for so long and that's how everyone refers to it. A bit like when Rupert wanted the Friends Provident Stadium. Everyone still called it St Marys. I suppose that the sponsor pays for his name to appear in newspaper reports and on TV. The ordinary fan will still call it the Rose Bowl. It is all about investment. The Commercial Director we now have is the best thing that has happened to Rosebowl plc for a while. I liked Stuart, the previous one. He was a good guy and did good things but Zac is at least a level above. He is working day and night to get us to move forward financially. His contact book is second to none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 It is all about investment. The Commercial Director we now have is the best thing that has happened to Rosebowl plc for a while. I liked Stuart, the previous one. He was a good guy and did good things but Zac is at least a level above. He is working day and night to get us to move forward financially. His contact book is second to none. You are clearly a commited Hampshire fan but please dont pretend you are ITK. Any "info" you have provided is readily available to anyone who regularly frequents the Rose Bowl. There are enough psuedo-ITKers on the main board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 Sorry for the interruption, but I'm a bit confused... why has no one started having a go at Weston Saint for being an ITK yet? ;-) This is SaintsWeb after all, it has a reputation to keep up... I knew it was a matter of time. manji, Weston simply posts what he feels is appropriate, and it's up to us to judge and decide for ourselves. A lot of us don't get to the Rose Bowl and it is interesting to hear what he posts, as it would be had anyone else posted it it. If any of it had proven to be wrong then naturally we would be more sceptical. As it is, it has all proven to be correct and so those of us who don't get along learn to value his posts. If anyone else did the same, exactly the same would happen. I don't think it's fair to label him an ITK, as this tends to be used for those who are trying to gain praise or reward in return. IMO he doesn't do it for kicks, or to claim any kind of kudos, just to be helpful to fellow fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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