Littlelat17 Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 Does each League 1 player put down his choice for best keeper, best 4 defenders, best 4 midfielders and best 2 strikers they have seen? Is this how it is selected as such? and is the vote still done at Christmas time?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 Not too sure this would have been my team and Davis and Harding would be nowhere near but it is voted for by their fellow professionals and so who cares what I think. I am not surprised at BHA as theirs is a poor squad who have done fantastically well but I am surprised at Huddersfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 Still think Richard Lee was robbed of the GK spot. On the Huddersfield forum someone described Fonte as 'Donkey' who didn't deserve to be in the team. HA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 Dan Harding ? This team is as much of a joke as the weekly nonsense they put out which bears no resemblance to anything that happens on the pitch either. What would the players that play against these players every week know, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 Still think Richard Lee was robbed of the GK spot. On the Huddersfield forum someone described Fonte as 'Donkey' who didn't deserve to be in the team. HA. A few penalties saves in the JPT hardly warrants `Team of the Year". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 i think this team shows over critical we all are of our players who are sat 2nd in the table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 (edited) Just listening to talksport and Adrian Durham described Saints as having 5 under-achievers in the L1 team of the year. 'Players think they're a big club so better vote for them'. What a kn0b-end. Really hope Peterbourgh lose in the play-offs now! Priceless - 'BWP is far to good a player for L1' We were lucky to get 5 players in the team, how Brighton only have 3 is slightly strange but there you go. But according to Durham we should have been promoted by january!! Tube, how the hell does he get a job on radio? Edited 18 April, 2011 by Gorgiesaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 Tony Roberts robbed of the GK slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 Does each League 1 player put down his choice for best keeper, best 4 defenders, best 4 midfielders and best 2 strikers they have seen? Is this how it is selected as such? and is the vote still done at Christmas time?? I think they are now basing the voting on the St Landrew system: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?6509-Saints-Greatest-XI-Nominations-For-2nd-Best-RM.http:// Votes start after the first game of the season because it's quite a long winded process. Firstly the players have to nominate players in each position for the team (for example there may be 8 left backs nominated). These nominations are then presented to the players who then vote for the first choice LB. The two players who got the most votes are then put forward forward for a final vote off. The player who wins is in the L1 best team and the other nominated players are then voted for again, to see who would play in a L1 2nd string. This process is then repeated for each postion. It's a fair and tested method and I think a lot of credit needs to go to St Landrew, who, sadly, no longer posts with us because Boj sacked him as a mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 I think AV was clearly used here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 Congratulations to the five players, outstanding effort by all of them and to be applauded unreservedly by all true Saints fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 Cherries fans caling Fonte a hoofer! HAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 Congratulations to the five players, outstanding effort by all of them and to be applauded unreservedly by all true Saints fans I think it also shows who's to blame that we haven't been promoted and win the league this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 Just listening to talksport and Adrian Durham described Saints as having 5 under-achievers in the L1 team of the year. 'Players think they're a big club so better vote for them'. What a kn0b-end. Really hope Peterbourgh lose in the play-offs now! Priceless - 'BWP is far to good a player for L1' We were lucky to get 5 players in the team, how Brighton only have 3 is slightly strange but there you go. But according to Durham we should have been promoted by january!! Tube, how the hell does he get a job on radio? That's what you get for listening to talksport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 BTW how is Boyd not in that team? Laughable!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 Just listening to talksport and Adrian Durham described Saints as having 5 under-achievers in the L1 team of the year. 'Players think they're a big club so better vote for them'. Durham is a bit of a knobber but he does have a point. We are underachievers (maybe not individually but collectively). Before a ball was kicked everybody in the media, bookmaking circles and most supporters had us down as easy champions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 Durham is a bit of a knobber but he does have a point. We are underachievers (maybe not individually but collectively). Before a ball was kicked everybody in the media, bookmaking circles and most supporters had us down as easy champions. Don't write us off just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 (edited) Do they have a league 1 manager of the season? And Durham is quite correct,collectively we have underachieved,the performances still remain staggeringly poor. Many results have flattered to deceive. It seems many are happy to gloss over this fact. Edited 18 April, 2011 by saint lard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 Do they have a league 1 manager of the season? And Durham is quite correct,collectively we have underachieved,the performances still remain staggeringly poor. Many results have flattered to deceive. It seems many are happy to gloss over this fact. I blame Adkins, he's sh*t. If only we had Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 (edited) It does appear, as VFTP alludes to, that some people would rather win one game 5-0 and lose two 2-0 then win three games 1-0. NEVER satisfied. Edited 18 April, 2011 by LGTL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 I blame Adkins, he's sh*t. If only we had Pardew. Meh,i agree in part with your post,which part though?......i can do sarcasm aswell. Pardew is history and i don't think Adkins is sh*t,but i do blame him in part for performances. Anyway,congrats to the 5 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 It does kind of prove that we have by far the most talent individually but perhaps not collectively. Indeed it does, we have a great collection of talented individuals rather than (just) a great team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 Meh,i agree in part with your post,which part though?......i can do sarcasm aswell. Pardew is history and i don't think Adkins is sh*t,but i do blame him in part for performances. Anyway,congrats to the 5 players. yeah, he is that shyt we are 2nd in the league and 5 of his team (who apparently dont play for him) are voted by their fellow pros as the best players in the league.. what a crap job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 (edited) Good evening DD. I can always be assured wherever i post you are sure to follow. Read again.."i don't think Adkins is sh*t" Hope that clarifys my position. But he is not blameless for poor displays.No more,no less. You're views are to polarised for me,you will be happy to know. And i will also clarify ONCE AGAIN....when i stated early in his tenure,as opinion,that the players were not playing for him it appeared that the players were not able to produce what they had been instructed on the training pitch,and what Adkins was saying to the fans and in the media about how he wanted us to play. Nothing to do with them not playing for Adkins. Thats the last time,either confirm you understand or will you again blindly ignore my explanation in a vain attempt to score points. Edited 18 April, 2011 by saint lard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 you do realise we are in division 3....where by most, teams/players are crap...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 Is anyone else also concerned at the timing of this? Brighton have 3 players and they won the league at a canter so they must be a little miffed. As if they needed any more motivation to beat us on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 you do realise we are in division 3....where by most, teams/players are crap...? Well in that case we really have underperformed,performance wise. Welcome to the darkside, my young apprentice. Anyway,moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 A few penalties saves in the JPT hardly warrants `Team of the Year". Poor distribution and getting beaten at your near post every other week apparently does though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 "interesting" views on HTFC Forum... http://downatthemac.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=56139 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 To get 5 in that team is quite an achievement and from Peach's interviews on another thread they all seem quite rightly thrilled at the recognition of their fellow pro's. Although I like Harding, I think his is the only one who I didn't think would be there. If there was an equivalent poll for manager then I assume Poyet would win as have to say he has done a very good job down there (probably demonstrated by the fact that the PFA team isn't overpopulated with Brighton players). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seagull Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 Whenever I see Brighton they're certainly good at bending the rules. Yes they've done well, but time wastign, play-acting, arguing with refs and basically taking every advantage possible. But that's not just me saying it, you only have to look at the reaction of some teams they've played. Doesn't stop them being a good side though. Do they really think they have the best 11 players though? They've had the best TEAM, obviously, but that's not the same thing. IMO Lallana, Scheniderlin and Chamberlain are far, far too good for this league, probably even the league above, and all 3 will have good top flight careers. Are Brighton saying they wouldn't want them? And Fonte? By far the best defender in the league and already proven to be a great championship player. But that doesn't make us sound better than them. If anything it merely highlights our underperformance this season. For whatever reason we've made very hard work of this season despite a great squad at our disposal. All 5 deserve their awards. I understand they can't give more saints players mentions, but Jaidi deserved a place. Fonte had to be in there though, so hard to include both. Davis has benefitted from being behind that defence, that's for sure. We do get some opposition fans who criticise us for our antics but we've also had plenty of opposition fans who have been very complimentary. Peterborough for example even had their players saying in the press they were taught a lesson in football, I had Charlton fans outside the Valley telling me we were nailed on champions back in October! A Walsall fan said to me on Saturday that were the best side he'd ever seen at this level. We do have a cynical side to our game when we need it. We do look to earn every single little advantage we can. Having said that, I've heard us been called cheats a million times over the years. You always get it from opposition fans when they feel they've been wronged, that's football! We can play nasty, we can get stuck in and we can also play excellent, patient football. I think we play very controlling, very intelligent football thats too good for this division. The argument about whether one player would get in anothers side is pretty pointless really because different players suit different styles of play. For example, you could have a brilliant hulk of a centre half, but if he can't bring the ball down and be confident in possession he'd be no good to us with our style. I don't think we have the best 11 in the division individually. I don't think these awards mean a thing (players voting, and voting in January!) either. I'd have had Ankergren as the goalkeeper, 20 clean sheets and very few mistakes this season. I'd have had Hoskins up front with CMS. Would probably have found room for Gary Jones too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 "interesting" views on HTFC Forum... http://downatthemac.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=56139 ... oh no, not another set of fans... :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 18 April, 2011 Share Posted 18 April, 2011 Harding has had two poor games this year...the beauty of our squad is that he's been keepin Dickson out and look how well he's done since coming in! Sometimes we take the quality of our players for granted...nice to see they're appreciated by their peers. Well done to all concerned That is such a load of crap. Harding's been gash on a significant number of occasions, he's just clearly been less gash overall in the minds of opponents than other notable left backs - and I dare say much of the voting is based on reputation on occasion when the players facing Saints haven't had much opportunity to attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 19 April, 2011 Share Posted 19 April, 2011 Really? You want that waste of space BWP back here??!! He was as useful as a one legged man in an @rse kicking contest, yes he scored some goals, but he was more frustrating a player than one of note. OK I'll make an exception if you want, but he's still got some profile as former leading scorer at Plymouth, even though they are bottom and Charlton who are little better....but you have to admit the rest look good.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambib Posted 19 April, 2011 Share Posted 19 April, 2011 Not too sure this would have been my team and Davis and Harding would be nowhere near but it is voted for by their fellow professionals and so who cares what I think. I am not surprised at BHA as theirs is a poor squad who have done fantastically well but I am surprised at Huddersfield. Excuse me? A poor squad? You mean we haven't spent millions of quid on our team of very good players who aren't as known as your big-money signings like Lambert and Fonte and they are therefore poor? Do me a favour... I think what a lot of our fans are a pit peeved at is the inclusion of Harding and Chamberlain, mainly because Harding hasn't been playing all season whilst our LB has been consistently great every game. Also, a lot of our fans all hate Harding, so that is probably why there has been some angry comments on that. Personally, I think Painter is fantastic, but I can see why Harding has got in, as he is eye-catching whilst Painter just quietly gets on with his job (does it well, mind) Others think Chamberlain has got in purely on hype, because he has only played about 20 games this season and hasn't scored too many goals. I personally think Gary Jones deserved a place in the midfield from Rochdale, but it is plain to see Chamberlain will play in the Premiership, but I personally hope that you keep him over the summer and he helps you push on for the Premiership next season! Though if the money you are offered is around what has been being mentioned...think you could get a few decent players in to your squad! The number of threads on you guys on our forum is embarrassing really...we've just walked the league and all we can talk about is Southampton? Confuses me, really. I don't have anything against Southampton (Except for a few fans, funnily enough three of the four fans I know at my college are some of these people!) but which club hasn't got some ****s in their fanbase. All the best with promotion; you should definitely go up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 19 April, 2011 Share Posted 19 April, 2011 can't see how anyone says players got in on hype. The vote was by league 1 players. If anything a jumped up youngster linked to big clubs is likely to get less votes! The opposing teams players think Kelvin is better than Brown, that Ox-C was better than other wingers they faced etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 19 April, 2011 Share Posted 19 April, 2011 i think this team shows over critical we all are of our players who are sat 2nd in the table Congratulations to the five players, outstanding effort by all of them and to be applauded unreservedly by all true Saints fans Two post that are spot on. I despair at the number on wanna-be, know-it-all managers on here, who think they know better than the pros. If that were the case they'd be running clubs instead of flexing their finger muscles from the safety of a keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 19 April, 2011 Share Posted 19 April, 2011 Kelvin is typical of a great player at this level who is not appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 19 April, 2011 Share Posted 19 April, 2011 I think what a lot of our fans are a pit peeved at is the inclusion of Harding and Chamberlain. Others think Chamberlain has got in purely on hype, because he has only played about 20 games this season and hasn't scored too many goals. er, 27 starts and 8 sub appearances in the league, 2 starts and 2 sub appearances in the FA cup, one start and one sub in the league cup and a sub appearance in the JPT. If my maths is correct that's 30 starts and 11 subs appearances. So 41 games. He's scored 9 goals by the way. I'm not sure if you (or whoever else is unhappy with his inclusion) have seen much of the lad, but let me tell you there is no hype, he is the real deal. Amazing first touch, pace, tricks, two feet, crossing ability, powerful shot, can tackle, works hard, composure and vision of a central midfielder. He has run some fullbacks absolutely ragged this year and any praise coming his way is fully justified. Jones perhaps deserved to be included, but there is nothing to say that Alex shouldn't have been selected ahead of Bennett, who I know has had a very good season too, who has scored 8 in 49 I believe this season. Alex might be injured now, but that doesn't devalue his performances. Congratulations on promotion by the way. We are all envious. Brilliant job and for all those fans that continued to follow you even during the darkest days this is no more than they deserve. Hopefully we can make it up as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 19 April, 2011 Share Posted 19 April, 2011 I despair at the number on wanna-be, know-it-all managers on here, who think they know better than the pros. If that were the case they'd be running clubs instead of flexing their finger muscles from the safety of a keyboard. I thought the players played football rather than ran football clubs. By the way being very good at a sport doesn't mean you are a good coach, good tactician or good talent spotter. A pro brought Tony Pulis to the club. I wonder if Mourinho's thoughts on tactics/players were laughed at by pros at one point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 April, 2011 Share Posted 19 April, 2011 you do realise we are in division 3....where by most, teams/players are crap...? You use this line a lot. That would make sense except that in terms of players, wages, expenditure we are not anything like a normal division three team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 19 April, 2011 Share Posted 19 April, 2011 I thought the players played football rather than ran football clubs. By the way being very good at a sport doesn't mean you are a good coach, good tactician or good talent spotter. A pro brought Tony Pulis to the club. I wonder if Mourinho's thoughts on tactics/players were laughed at by pros at one point? I'm not sure where I said that players run clubs, but I think the point you're making is that the awards were voted for by the players. This I'm aware of. My point is that the player are far more qualified to make that judgement call than the fans, they are playing against each other, and are in a good position to determined the best players they have faced, for example the right back knows which left winger has skinned him the most. The fact that most of them will probably not go on to coach or manage is irrelevant. I think their opinions are worth a lot more than the wannabe internet managers. Everyone's an expert when it comes to football, but so few have the ability to make a living out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 19 April, 2011 Share Posted 19 April, 2011 I assume the link on that Udders forum to 'Nigel Adkins Twitter' is a fake... http://twitter.com/#!/NigelAdkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 April, 2011 Share Posted 19 April, 2011 You use this line a lot. That would make sense except that in terms of players, wages, expenditure we are not anything like a normal division three team. so....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now