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Bad.

 

Disrespectful, and probably just given them all the motivation they need.

 

Over the course of the thousands of promotions in World association football in the last 120 years, how many Guards of Honour do you think there have been? Just because a few clubs have started to do it recently doesn't make it right or put any future club under any obligation to do so.

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Over the course of the thousands of promotions in World association football in the last 120 years, how many Guards of Honour do you think there have been? Just because a few clubs have started to do it recently doesn't make it right or put any future club under any obligation to do so.

 

There have been a few, notably Arsenal and Man U - but usually when neither of the teams is still playing for something.

 

I honestly couldn't give a toss either way, judging from Late Kick Off on Monday one of Brighton's centre backs isn't taking the rest of the season too seriously, but he thinks they should have eleven players in the team of the season, so who knows how they'd react on the day ?

 

Generally though I don't think people get wound up about people not going out of their way to be congratulatory.

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"Nigel Adkins says no guard of honour by Saints for Brighton."

 

Good :)

Meh.

 

Bad.

 

Disrespectful, and probably just given them all the motivation they need.

Not sure whether the Albion needed extra motivation, but your mong of a manager has just made absolutely sure we are bang up for this one now.

 

This. Who cares FFS.
Not me, I'm quite pleased really. It's a load of cràp isn't it? But we have won the league by a street, so it would certainly have been a touch of class from the opposing team and manager.

 

Over the course of the thousands of promotions in World association football in the last 120 years, how many Guards of Honour do you think there have been? Just because a few clubs have started to do it recently doesn't make it right or put any future club under any obligation to do so.
Quite. But if anyone at the Albion did feel there was an obligation then there are two observations to make:

 

a) They are wrong. Why should a guard of honour be formed? It's not even the end of the season, FFS.

b) Adkins should have used it to minimise any motivation that we have for beating you.

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On the face of it, it would seem a poor decision by Adkins, as having to fawn at the Brighton players in the so-called guard of honour in front of thousands of mocking home fans would have been excellent motivation. However, he has to think about the rest of the season. With our injury crisis, we cannot afford to lose players to suspension, so don't want our players to be so fired up that they get themselves sent off.

 

Perhaps a rugby-style guard of honour AFTER the game would have been a better idea.

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Let's face it, if Adkins had said "yes, we're doing a guard of honour because Brighton have been superb and deserve it" then a bunch of their mongtards would have made out that he was being sarcastic and tried to build it into a big deal anyway.

 

Also Simster, your "meh" at whether we think there should be a guard of honour and the "your... manager has made sure we're bang up for it now" suggest at best a bipolar reaction ? Make your mind up, either you're bothered or you're not. You can't be motivated by something that doesn't create an emotional reaction.

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On the face of it, it would seem a poor decision by Adkins, as having to fawn at the Brighton players in the so-called guard of honour in front of thousands of mocking home fans would have been excellent motivation. However, he has to think about the rest of the season. With our injury crisis, we cannot afford to lose players to suspension, so don't want our players to be so fired up that they get themselves sent off.

 

Perhaps a rugby-style guard of honour AFTER the game would have been a better idea.

 

Or maybe Brighton need to get over themselves...

 

The guard of honour was started as a recognition of the premier league champions i.e. the number one team in England, the best. Forming a guard of honour for the 45th best team is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard, particularly when the game is an important one for us in our promotion campaign. Our players should be fully focused on getting a result, not on massaging Brighton's highly inflated ego

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Let's face it, if Adkins had said "yes, we're doing a guard of honour because Brighton have been superb and deserve it" then a bunch of their mongtards would have made out that he was being sarcastic and tried to build it into a big deal anyway.

 

Also Simster, your "meh" at whether we think there should be a guard of honour and the "your... manager has made sure we're bang up for it now" suggest at best a bipolar reaction ? Make your mind up, either you're bothered or you're not. You can't be motivated by something that doesn't create an emotional reaction.

Not bothered about it in the slightest, mate. However, I am not your average football player with a probable false sense of entitlement and low IQ. What I am trying to say is that if there was the slightest chance of putting our players noses out of joint, then I'd have shown a bit of class and insisted on making the guard of honour. As I have posted on our site, Adkins impresses me less and less as time goes on.

 

It's one thing to put your foot in it by banging on about another team "keeping up", when you are 8 points behind and half way through the season. But he had a choice with regards to this guard of honour thing:

 

a) Southampton form a guard of honour, fawning at the opposition players in front of their mocking support. Result: a fired up Southampton team with a point to prove.

Or:

b) Go on Twitter and tweet a couple of days before the match that no guard of honour will be formed. Result: if any Albion players with little to play for did need motivating, well that'll do nicely.

 

 

The obvious choice would be a), but would require a manager who with a bit of class and a brain. Personally I find this whole guard of honour a crock of shìt to be honest.

 

I hope that makes my position clear.

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A guard of honour or not makes no difference to the game itself. I doubt the Brighton players give a crap either way.

 

Also, I'm interested as to why some Brighton fans hate Adkins so much? Is it really because of one throwaway comment earlier in the season about them catching us? If so, then Christ, let it go. You should be happy to luxuriate in the fact you're already won the league and celebrate your teams' achievements rather than banging on about a comment Adkins has probably forgotten all about.

 

I'm really looking forward to this match. It's what football's all about. Huge end of season game for us and a day out in the sun by the sea. Extra edge added by the fact my girlfriends family are from the area and her cousin and uncle are big Brighton fans. Quality.

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Not bothered about it in the slightest, mate. However, I am not your average football player with a probable false sense of entitlement and low IQ. What I am trying to say is that if there was the slightest chance of putting our players noses out of joint, then I'd have shown a bit of class and insisted on making the guard of honour. As I have posted on our site, Adkins impresses me less and less as time goes on.

 

It's one thing to put your foot in it by banging on about another team "keeping up", when you are 8 points behind and half way through the season. But he had a choice with regards to this guard of honour thing:

 

a) Southampton form a guard of honour, fawning at the opposition players in front of their mocking support. Result: a fired up Southampton team with a point to prove.

Or:

b) Go on Twitter and tweet a couple of days before the match that no guard of honour will be formed. Result: if any Albion players with little to play for did need motivating, well that'll do nicely.

 

 

The obvious choice would be a), but would require a manager who with a bit of class and a brain. Personally I find this whole guard of honour a crock of shìt to be honest.

 

I hope that makes my position clear.

 

Nigel Adkins didn't go on twitter, in his pre-match press interview, a reporter would of asked and he said no.

 

Jordan Sibley announced it, who is our club spokesman.

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I'm really looking forward to this match. It's what football's all about. Huge end of season game for us and a day out in the sun by the sea. Extra edge added by the fact my girlfriends family are from the area and her cousin and uncle are big Brighton fans. Quality.
I relinquished my season ticket for Withdean a few years back, so can't make it. However my Saints supporting brother is planning on skulking around Withers to see if he can snaffle a spare. Then later that evening his family and mine are all congregating at my Saints supporting dad's house in the New Forest by which time bragging rights will have been decided. Although, even if we somehow lose for the first time at home this season, I'll somehow console myself that we are already promoted and something like 13 points clear, having been the best team in the league by an absolute mile.
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Not bothered about it in the slightest, mate. However, I am not your average football player with a probable false sense of entitlement and low IQ. What I am trying to say is that if there was the slightest chance of putting our players noses out of joint, then I'd have shown a bit of class and insisted on making the guard of honour. As I have posted on our site, Adkins impresses me less and less as time goes on.

 

It's one thing to put your foot in it by banging on about another team "keeping up", when you are 8 points behind and half way through the season. But he had a choice with regards to this guard of honour thing:

 

a) Southampton form a guard of honour, fawning at the opposition players in front of their mocking support. Result: a fired up Southampton team with a point to prove.

Or:

b) Go on Twitter and tweet a couple of days before the match that no guard of honour will be formed. Result: if any Albion players with little to play for did need motivating, well that'll do nicely.

 

 

The obvious choice would be a), but would require a manager who with a bit of class and a brain. Personally I find this whole guard of honour a crock of shìt to be honest.

 

I hope that makes my position clear.

 

Your team seems to be obsessed with a need to be acknowledged for some reason.

 

We've still got something to play for this season, just because you're already finished doesn't mean we should distract ourselves pandering to your ego.

 

Lets face it, you've had one wonderful season, but you're probably going to lose Poyet at some point and fall back away.

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Not bothered about it in the slightest, mate. However, I am not your average football player with a probable false sense of entitlement and low IQ. What I am trying to say is that if there was the slightest chance of putting our players noses out of joint, then I'd have shown a bit of class and insisted on making the guard of honour. As I have posted on our site, Adkins impresses me less and less as time goes on.

 

It's one thing to put your foot in it by banging on about another team "keeping up", when you are 8 points behind and half way through the season. But he had a choice with regards to this guard of honour thing:

 

a) Southampton form a guard of honour, fawning at the opposition players in front of their mocking support. Result: a fired up Southampton team with a point to prove.

Or:

b) Go on Twitter and tweet a couple of days before the match that no guard of honour will be formed. Result: if any Albion players with little to play for did need motivating, well that'll do nicely.

 

 

The obvious choice would be a), but would require a manager who with a bit of class and a brain. Personally I find this whole guard of honour a crock of shìt to be honest.

 

I hope that makes my position clear.

 

In the history of association football and the thousands and thousands of promotion and Championships there have been in the last 120 years, I think you would struggle to name 10 teams that have formed a guard of honour!

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Where did this guard of honour crap come from anyway? As far as I know it's something that's happened just a few times in the Premiership.

 

I notice Crawley are getting all het up about Luton not giving them a guard of honour last week too, in the fecking Blue Square. What a load of arse.

 

It's about a bunch of mickey mouse teams needing their accomplishments to be acknowledged to give themselves some sort of validation. It's all a load of nonsense. It's one thing for the premier league champions to have it (they are after all the best team in england) but for these nothing clubs to be demanding one is just farcical

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Go on Twitter and tweet a couple of days before the match that no guard of honour will be formed. Result: if any Albion players with little to play for did need motivating, well that'll do nicely.

 

The more fired up BHA players are the more fired up SFC players will be.

 

Win, win.

 

HTH

 

p.s. FFS

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FFS I can't believe this. They've won the league in the THIRD tier of English football. WTF would anybody in their right mind want a guard of honour for that??! Come back and play us when you've won the World Club championship after the UEFA Champions League, then you can have your guard of honour!

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I love how wound up the Brighton fans are over Adkins. Have they always been this touchy? I suppose in lieu of a proper rival they must try and manufacture something each season for their own amusement but the vast majority of Saints fans I know are utterly apathetic towards them and Brighton. What a peculiar set of fans.

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Your team seems to be obsessed with a need to be acknowledged for some reason.

 

We've still got something to play for this season, just because you're already finished doesn't mean we should distract ourselves pandering to your ego.

 

Lets face it, you've had one wonderful season, but you're probably going to lose Poyet at some point and fall back away.

 

The clubs infrastructure and finances are there now to support 2nd tier or higher football, with or without Poyet.

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I love how wound up the Brighton fans are over Adkins. Have they always been this touchy? I suppose in lieu of a proper rival they must try and manufacture something each season for their own amusement but the vast majority of Saints fans I know are utterly apathetic towards them and Brighton. What a peculiar set of fans.

 

Dislike Adkins, Harding and Hammond more than Saints. We've got proper rivals in Palace.

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Yeah, we thought St Mary's meant we had the infrastructure and income to support top 10 Prem football...

 

It's not far off. Of course infrastructure doesnt equal success but it certainly helps and you'll be back in the Championship sooner or later.

 

Haven't Palace got proper rivals in Millwall and Charlton?

 

Hahaha, Palace hate us first and foremost, they don't get on with Millwall and they just laugh at Charlton.

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also. it is funny that brighton have a rival.....good luck to them

not even close to being compared to saints/pompey...which is easily one of the countries biggest rivalries..

 

Liverpool/man u

West ham/millwall

Cardiff/swansea

newcastle/sunderland

arsenal/spurs

saints/pompey

villa/brum

 

 

these are easily the biggest rivalries in the english leagues....(in no particular order)

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also. it is funny that brighton have a rival.....good luck to them

not even close to being compared to saints/pompey...which is easily one of the countries biggest rivalries..

 

Liverpool/man u

West ham/millwall

Cardiff/swansea

newcastle/sunderland

arsenal/spurs

saints/pompey

villa/brum

 

 

these are easily the biggest rivalries in the english leagues....(in no particular order)

 

You missed out Norwich/Ipswich and West Brom/Wolves.

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Lets face it, you've had one wonderful season, but you're probably going to lose Poyet at some point and fall back away.

 

To be fair, if they don't lose Poyet next season, I think they'll do quite well. I can see both sides doing a Leeds/Norwich. What odds on a double back to back promotion I wonder?? Might be worth a speculative fiver...

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Poyet says that even if we win 10-0 it won't change the fact that they gave been the best team this season. Is he preparing for a heavy defeat?

 

Re drinking we will be in that lovely bar on the beach by midday, just down the ramping the pier and walk towards your right. It is a lovely spot. It's called the artist quarter nowadays and has some lovely little outlets and good views of both piers.

 

I think you will find that the good views only include one pier, The Palarse Pier. T'other, The West Pier, is nought but a shell of twisted, burnt cast iron.

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Anyone know the local radio station down there please? I am only going to drop somempeople off at the ground, so will be listening to the match whilst pretending to listen to mrs h whilst hovering around the changing rooms in Primark.

 

 

You'll be wanting BBC Radio Sussex for full, unbiased :rolleyes: commentary. And after you've digested that, you will NEVER, EVER slag off Dave Merrington again and will appreciate just how good sports coverage on Radio Solent actually is.

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'Proper' rivals my arse. 2 Palace fans I know hate Millwall and Charlton more that Brighton.

 

http://www.footballpools.com/football-fever/Rivalries_Report_2008.pdf

 

Not proper Pal*ce fans then.

 

Incidently, couldn't give a **** about a guard of honour. Although we gave Swansea one a few years back. That was the last game of the season though.

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http://www.footballpools.com/football-fever/Rivalries_Report_2008.pdf

 

Not proper Pal*ce fans then.

 

Incidently, couldn't give a **** about a guard of honour. Although we gave Swansea one a few years back. That was the last game of the season though.

 

Are you still on my forum? Go away please and if you do win feel free to celebrate instead of coming back to gloat.

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also. it is funny that brighton have a rival.....good luck to them

not even close to being compared to saints/pompey...which is easily one of the countries biggest rivalries..

 

Liverpool/man u

West ham/millwall

Cardiff/swansea

newcastle/sunderland

arsenal/spurs

saints/pompey

villa/brum

 

 

these are easily the biggest rivalries in the english leagues....(in no particular order)

 

Isn't there supposed to be a tasty rivalry between the Bristol teams?

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http://www.footballpools.com/football-fever/Rivalries_Report_2008.pdf

 

Not proper Pal*ce fans then.

 

Incidently, couldn't give a **** about a guard of honour. Although we gave Swansea one a few years back. That was the last game of the season though.

 

Sorry to **** on your bonfire, but they are both part of your famous 'HF'.

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also. it is funny that brighton have a rival.....good luck to them

not even close to being compared to saints/pompey...which is easily one of the countries biggest rivalries..

 

Liverpool/man u

West ham/millwall

Cardiff/swansea

newcastle/sunderland

arsenal/spurs

saints/pompey

villa/brum

 

 

these are easily the biggest rivalries in the english leagues....(in no particular order)

 

steel city derby too

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Guards of honour mentioned between two clubs (not for individuals, or kids mascot-style line-ups) in the first 13 pages of a Google "football guard of honour" search are as follows :

 

Chelsea v Man U 2007 : http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/6633875.stm

Real Madrid v Barcelona 2008 : http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/laudrup-tells-barcelona-no-shame-guard-honour-182485

Accrington Stanley v Aldershot 2008 (start of following season) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBKXIKs16FA

Lyme Regis v South Petherton 2010 : http://www.viewfrompublishing.co.uk/news_view/5061/5/1/lyme-regis-football-defeat-but-a-proud-day

 

Whinging about guards of honour :

 

Luton v Crawley 2011 : http://www.dunstabletoday.co.uk/sport/football/local-football/brabin_unsure_over_guard_of_honour_at_crawley_1_2587450

Brighton v Saints 2011 : http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?199528-Southampton-to-not-form-a-guard-of-honour/page4

 

So frankly, basically no-one does it in the first place, and absolutely no-one outside Sussex gives a crap. Oh, and Lyme Regis won the league, got the guard of honour and then lost 5-1. :D

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