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Yes jaidi was injured but saying that we looked better when seaborne came on is complete gash mate. What planet are you on? Jaid is a million times better than cborne.

 

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Jaidi is better, and rightly been first choice. We played much much better after he went off today.

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Was Jaidi an injury? We looked better when Seaborne came on, changed our shape.

I would go for Dickson over Harding

Morgan - big loss

Lallana - we need him!

 

As others have said Connolly looked good when he came on, and remember Guly was keeping Barnard out playing as CF prior to his injury.

 

Yes jaidi was injured but saying that we looked better when seaborne came on is complete gash mate. What planet are you on? Jaid is a million times better than cborne.

 

To confirm, was in the hospitality and in the post match interview with Morgan, he said the Jaidi sub was tactical and he wasn't injured. Also said he himself should be back for last 2-3 games.

 

guess Adkins is on the same planet as me! (worrying!)

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I remember a certain commentator remarking that Matt Le Tissier had done nothing all game but score two goals.

 

Guly, although not in Matt's league, is similar. He frustrates the hell out of you but has the abillity to do some very special things. He just won't please any supporter who rates someone on their ability to 'put in a shift'.

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tbf, think it seems Um is on his own.

 

More than happy to stick by my comment that Dickson was poor in the first half.

 

Being in the Kingsland means you get a good look at our left backs (and wingers) and Dickson was not up to his usual standards today and Harding has offered much more going forward. He got better in the second, but was still as guilty out there, along with a few others, who surrenderted possession too often.

 

Dickson can play much better than that first half performance, then again so could about 8 or 9 of the players on show today.

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earth.

 

Jaidi is better, and rightly been first choice. We played much much better after he went off today.

 

We were just as poor for the rest of the first half as we were for the first 30 mins of it. Marginally better in the second, but not that had loads to do with Seabourne over Jaidi (who I reckon was injured and not tactical anyway).

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More than happy to stick by my comment that Dickson was poor in the first half.

 

Being in the Kingsland means you get a good look at our left backs (and wingers) and Dickson was not up to his usual standards today and Harding has offered much more going forward. He got better in the second, but was still as guilty out there, along with a few others, who surrenderted possession too often.

 

Dickson can play much better than that first half performance, then again so could about 8 or 9 of the players on show today.

 

I've been on my own many a time! We all see different things. Was going to change that comment as thought it sounded bit *****y - what I meant was in response to the post saying people were having a go at him, that most so far seem to think he played well

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I've been on my own many a time! We all see different things. Was going to change that comment as thought it sounded bit *****y - what I meant was in response to the post saying people were having a go at him, that most so far seem to think he played well

 

Don't worry about your comment, or how it was received, didn't have a problem with it at all. Agree that football is all about opinions, so more than happy to disagree (or agree).

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Today's match was the sort of game we would have failed to win six month's ago. A hard-working, unambitious 4-5-1 with a bonkers ref after a tough midweeker - it had everything to suggest we would blow it, but today we didn't. Even had we failed to score I would have been pleased with the display, because we kept our shape, kept working, kept probing away - not going headless chicken and clueless. It is the sort of game that flakey teams blow and successful teams win - just like we did today. Definite progress.

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I remember a certain commentator remarking that Matt Le Tissier had done nothing all game but score two goals.

 

Guly, although not in Matt's league, is similar. He frustrates the hell out of you but has the abillity to do some very special things. He just won't please any supporter who rates someone on their ability to 'put in a shift'.

 

During Matt le gods first full start for england, he got booed for not getting his leg broken in order to win a throw-in 10 yards from our own goal line. He was also the only england player who came close to scoring, with a sublime long range over the keeper effort that I think hit the bar with the keeper beaten. I'll take a lazy Guly that gets us 3 points over a hardworking journeyman

that huffs and puffs with no end result anytime.

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I remember a certain commentator remarking that Matt Le Tissier had done nothing all game but score two goals.

 

Guly, although not in Matt's league, is similar. He frustrates the hell out of you but has the abillity to do some very special things. He just won't please any supporter who rates someone on their ability to 'put in a shift'.

 

True in part, but Matt was a bit of a porker, Guly's not, so if Guly did put in that extra effort, imagine how good a player he'd be.

 

I'm also of the opinion that a good work ethic makes a good player. We'll miss Barnard imo. Let's hope we can cope without him.

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Well I think we got out of jail today - but that's how it goes sometimes. Just as well with the other results going the way they did!

Onwards to Brighton - one game at a time. Really concerned about our mentality for next week, especially if Huddersfield and Peterborough win on Friday.

I really believe it could be a make or break weekend with two critical games in 3-days... This is when the squad needs to be focussed and in the groove - prepared for anything Brighton can throw at us and deal with it...

The facts are win all our games and nothing else matters - so just go there in a positive state of mind, and grind out the result!

More twists and turns to come - it's ours to lose...I just hope not!

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We are just not playing well enough to go up automatically, everything is so disjointed. There is no way that if these tactics and form continue, automatic is beyond us unless Huddersfield and Peterborough go into melt down. The one light that came through from today being the possibility that Rochdale won't make the play off's, that looks about the only plus I could find.

 

I believe at home we can just about get away with how we have been going, but away from home we have to change drastically or it will all be in bits on the floor. The problem we have is that we are not in the greatest of form, have so many star players out injured, that we cannot continue to play in the manner we have as if nothing had happened and that we can bully teams into submission. Rather than continue in the same mould, address our weaknesses such we are in the game long enough to make tactical changes and the possibility of nicking things when tight. You can go on about your favourite at full back, but they can all do a job when fit and that seems the most important aspect. I would like to see Martin come in along side Fonte, but the positions Jaidi's if fit and not facing a pocket rocket. I would shore up the midfield with using the other two full backs on the flanks,with something like Hammond, Chaplow and Gobern in the midfield. The most important thing to getting this to work is drop Ricky and put Guly on as the striker. I like Guly but really do not want him with midfield duties as it causes confusion, let him have a free role. If things are not going well you can always change things around, but if you have already shot yourself in the foot you can only go more extreme. I liked the way Bristol Rovers set up today and that is how I feel we should be playing until we have the form and the players away from home. If Connolley is fit enough he is a definite starting option, but remember the last time we did that and had to say goodbye after a couple of games. As a sub we may well stretch him out for this season.

 

We really don't have a strike threat away from home at the moment, why not give some of that nothing up and plug the holes we know we have, then just roll the dice for the last 20 minutes if we have to. I don't expect Adkins will do this and I expect to see Ricky trudging across the park without intent, hopefully with Guly far enough away from the midfield to stop the confusion or our away malaise to continue.

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We are just not playing well enough to go up automatically, everything is so disjointed. There is no way that if these tactics and form continue, automatic is beyond us unless Huddersfield and Peterborough go into melt down. The one light that came through from today being the possibility that Rochdale won't make the play off's, that looks about the only plus I could find.

 

I believe at home we can just about get away with how we have been going, but away from home we have to change drastically or it will all be in bits on the floor. The problem we have is that we are not in the greatest of form, have so many star players out injured, that we cannot continue to play in the manner we have as if nothing had happened and that we can bully teams into submission. Rather than continue in the same mould, address our weaknesses such we are in the game long enough to make tactical changes and the possibility of nicking things when tight. You can go on about your favourite at full back, but they can all do a job when fit and that seems the most important aspect. I would like to see Martin come in along side Fonte, but the positions Jaidi's if fit and not facing a pocket rocket. I would shore up the midfield with using the other two full backs on the flanks,with something like Hammond, Chaplow and Gobern in the midfield. The most important thing to getting this to work is drop Ricky and put Guly on as the striker. I like Guly but really do not want him with midfield duties as it causes confusion, let him have a free role. If things are not going well you can always change things around, but if you have already shot yourself in the foot you can only go more extreme. I liked the way Bristol Rovers set up today and that is how I feel we should be playing until we have the form and the players away from home. If Connolley is fit enough he is a definite starting option, but remember the last time we did that and had to say goodbye after a couple of games. As a sub we may well stretch him out for this season.

 

We really don't have a strike threat away from home at the moment, why not give some of that nothing up and plug the holes we know we have, then just roll the dice for the last 20 minutes if we have to. I don't expect Adkins will do this and I expect to see Ricky trudging across the park without intent, hopefully with Guly far enough away from the midfield to stop the confusion or our away malaise to continue.

 

People have been saying all that for 2 months now, and we are still in 2nd, and still in the driving seat. We are slowly but surely running out of games for our promotion campaign to end in tatters.

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I'm not sure if this deserves a thread of its own or not, but did anyone else think that most of the Bristol Rovers fans shirts looked very dirty. Especially those who were wearing their home blue and white kit...some of them almost looked blue and brown. It was revolting. Saints fans on the other hand looked much more respectable.

 

Also, good result for us.

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You can tell many of our fans have never gone through a promotion campaign, hold your nerve forget about the performance look at the result.

i said on the build up thread this game could be like the Charlton game in 66, only difference is we have 2 more home games.

yes we were uninspiring for long spells today but i would ask all present at SMS to remember how they felt when Guly's shot hit the back of the net

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Sorry but will stay positive. Its been a long hard season, we have injuries to arguably 4 or 5 first 11, and people are pessimistic that we 'look disjointed' or are not play well - who gives a flying feck HOW we are playing? Under these circumstances and at this point in the season what matter is points on the board - we did that against a side who occupy the last 1/4 of the the league - who we always struggle against - I am usually more confident when we play sides in the top half as they tend to be more open... but i digress.. get on the feckin bus FFS - we are doing a Man U in the league - playing sheidt and winning - its ours if we stay together and follow Niges' mantra - 'ITS ABOUT THE SQUAD@ all of us together and believeing we can do it - anyone one who is not on this bus can Feck off ;-)

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Not a great performance but Rovers came for a draw - they were time wasting from the first minute - and these are the types of games that have caused problems over the last few years so it is great to get all the points. I thought Guly was good. OK he is a bit frustrating but his touch on the ball is probably better than anyone else we have and it was an excellent goal. If he had better players around him he would be more effective, IMO, and think he is also wasted out on the wing.

 

Biggest problem today for me was having no central midfield. There was just a big hole there the entire game. Also, glad that they had nobody to really run at Butterfield as he looked very nervous. Connelly was great when he came on but doubt he has 90 minutes in him yet. Maybe Guly up front with Lambert next week. We are going to need a strong Easter with Huddersfield and Peterborough looking practically unbeatable.

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why have people kept saying we are not playing well enough to go up? Since then we have moved up to 2nd and retained it. We have played well enough to go up. The table doesn't lie. The question is will we continue to play well enough!

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The two players in the centre of midfield are the main reason we are underperforming. Hammond, Stephens, Chaplow and Schneiderlin are just not strong enough. We play an enormous number of meaningless round robin passes that go nowhere and just invite the opposition to close us down because of the negative slowness of our play. Our two central midfielders basically hang around the centre circle, Stephens is neat and tidy, painfully deliberate and totally unambitious, whilst Hammond provides effort but little else and no leadership. We need leaders in central midfield showing the same basic football understanding that Connolly does naturally.

 

We were a different team late in the second half after Connolly came on. Connolly has a proper football brain and his movement and passing ability brought the best in football terms out of Guly and Lambert, which then involved other players like Dickson, Butterfield and N'Guessan. It is a crying shame that we had in Forte the quickest player on the field yet nobody played him in down the line. Invariably he was taking the ball square with the fullback trying to get outside him, instead of playing him down the line and getting up in support. If Connolly can stay fit we will be a better team. In footballing terms we still need two strong leaders in midfield.

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Gobsmacked...that is so far away from how I saw it its like watching a different game - Butterfield was abysmal - but Dickson

was the only one getting forward - putting in crosss and over lapping.

As for Guly ...would you overlap him the way he kept losing it and giving it away and failing to chase back..even adkins commented on i after the game!

 

^^This^^

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Davis - 7, good distribution in the main, great save at the end although it wouldn't have counted anyway.

Butterfield - 7, a couple of poor crosses but was constantly available for the overlap in the second half.

Jaidi - 6, not much to say, looked fine until he went off.

Fonte 7.5, class above again, kept the pressure on Bristol by picking up all the clearances and got us going again.

Dickson - 8, ran all day, lots of direct movement through their defence. Exactly what we needed today.

Guly - 7, the enigma. Lots of good things, brilliant goal, but then he will be complacent and give the ball away in the promising position.

Hammond - 7.5, kept the ball, kept us moving. I've changed my mind about him this season, he knows his job and does it efficiently.

Stephens - 7, wasn't too impressed in the first half but he looked handy in the second half. His improvement mirrored the team's.

Forte - 7.5, not sure where people are coming from when they say he was shocking. His final ball isn't great but he is direct and worried them a few times.

Lambert - 6.5, not his best game, looked like he picked up a knock and should have scored with a header.

Barnard - 6.5, barely saw him until he came off. Hope he makes a quick recovery.

 

Seaborne - 7, not his biggest fan but he did some intelligent things with the ball in the second half.

Connolly - 7.5, excellent. Kept the ball, looked sharp and found space. He could be vital in the last 5 games.

N'Guessan - 6.5, did fine and almost scored with a bullet shot.

 

Pretty much agree with this, but thought Butters had a 'mare first half. Rickie seems to have lost all his sharpness - needs a rest.

 

Not much been said about BR. Closed us down well, 10 men behind the ball playing for the draw and hoping for a quick break till the goal. Never really tested Kelvin though.

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The two players in the centre of midfield are the main reason we are underperforming. Hammond, Stephens, Chaplow and Schneiderlin are just not strong enough. We play an enormous number of meaningless round robin passes that go nowhere and just invite the opposition to close us down because of the negative slowness of our play. Our two central midfielders basically hang around the centre circle, Stephens is neat and tidy, painfully deliberate and totally unambitious, whilst Hammond provides effort but little else and no leadership. We need leaders in central midfield showing the same basic football understanding that Connolly does naturally.

 

We were a different team late in the second half after Connolly came on. Connolly has a proper football brain and his movement and passing ability brought the best in football terms out of Guly and Lambert, which then involved other players like Dickson, Butterfield and N'Guessan. It is a crying shame that we had in Forte the quickest player on the field yet nobody played him in down the line. Invariably he was taking the ball square with the fullback trying to get outside him, instead of playing him down the line and getting up in support. If Connolly can stay fit we will be a better team. In footballing terms we still need two strong leaders in midfield.

 

Thought Stephens showed some good touches, but doesn't yet have an understanding with Hammond. We also seemed to be over-reacting to the Rochdale game. Sometimes Forte and Guly pushed so wide that Stephens and Hammond were being swamped by the opposition.

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strangely concerned tonight despite a great 3 points....

 

Barnard's season looks over, we are missing Lallana horrendously, and I was disappointed that Charlton couldn't muster any fight.

I'm just a little worried that we are wandering towards a defeat at Brighton and the table will suddenly make scary reading.

 

imo the biggest game next week is MK Dons v Huddersfield.

If Udders got turned over there the pressure is off and a point at the Withdean would do nicely.

I don't want us to end up battering Plymouth's/Walsall's goal in the 90th minute desperately looking for a vital goal as we did today.

 

 

Unless of course Davis comes up and heads the promotion-winning goal in the 95th minute of game 46 - then it might be worth waiting for!

Though I'm sure someone will still moan about it.

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Thought Stephens showed some good touches, but doesn't yet have an understanding with Hammond. We also seemed to be over-reacting to the Rochdale game. Sometimes Forte and Guly pushed so wide that Stephens and Hammond were being swamped by the opposition.

 

I agree with derry on the other 3 but I have to say that I think morgan is better than the rest. He has great skill on the ball and can pass a lot better than any of them.

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Dickson my MOM today. Midfield poor and will never hack it in Championship. Passing went continully astray and seemed to stand off all the time. Connelly changed the game when he came on and we then looked more of a strike force. In saying that the Gas were never in it as far as their strikeforce went but their defence played well and tried very hard.

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Just what my nipper said.

 

What a wonderfully perceptive football brain your nipper has!

 

I'm mightily relieved by the result, but seriously concerned for the rest of the season. For most of the game there was no shape or purpose to our midfield. I spent the afternoon wondering where our team had gone. Suddenly I was watching a different team.

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oh my god that was hard listening, guly was the only one in our team who could produce a little bit of magic. Glad he wasnt dropped!

 

The racist in front of me wanted him taken off after two minutes.

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The midfield has been worrying me for a while. There is a distinct lack of pace, and Chaplow apart none of them get far enough forward. When Hammond and Stephens play together neither of them fill the gap in the middle created by Lambert pulling defenders out wide. This was painfully obvious at Rochdale. When we do break with width we often end up crossing it into an area inhabited by Barnard and 3 opposition defenders. In fact the midfield are often so slow to join attacks that they don't even arrive at the edge of the box to have a chance of picking up the inevitable clearance.

 

We also pass the ball far too slowly in the middle of the park. Hammond, for all his effort and commitment, doesn't have great touch and also lacks awareness when in possession.

 

Stephens is neat and tidy on the ball. but without Schneiderlin we lack smoothness in midfield. He also allows the centre backs the luxury of being able to just knock a 5 yard pass to him to start attacks.

 

Oh, and Connolly, what a player.

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We were just as poor for the rest of the first half as we were for the first 30 mins of it. Marginally better in the second, but not that had loads to do with Seabourne over Jaidi (who I reckon was injured and not tactical anyway).

 

I think he went off because they were playing with the fast fella up front an their left winger was not slouch - he felt Fonte for dead at one point. Jaidi isn't the quickest but I wouldn't be surprised if all the recent games were catching up with him.

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he was a bloody idiot for trying to catch it, why? what was the point to let bristol take the throw in quickly? it was completely foolish and stupid of him.

 

Yep. And it looked like the ball was in from where I was sat. Lino had no choice so neither did the ref to book him.

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We are just not playing well enough to go up automatically, everything is so disjointed. There is no way that if these tactics and form continue, automatic is beyond us unless Huddersfield and Peterborough go into melt down. The one light that came through from today being the possibility that Rochdale won't make the play off's, that looks about the only plus I could find.

 

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What total garbage.

 

If we win 4 of our last 5, we are 100% promoted.

 

Most likely, we will go up in 2nd with a lower return than this.

 

It's not in the bag, but is in our own hands.

 

We aren't playing very well just now, but we only need to overcome some fairly mediocre opposition to get promoted.

 

The return of David Connolly could be crucial. He was superb today, and I presume he now needs to start alongside Lambert if Barnard is out until next season.

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What total garbage.

 

If we win 4 of our last 5, we are 100% promoted.

 

Most likely, we will go up in 2nd with a lower return than this.

 

It's not in the bag, but is in our own hands.

 

We aren't playing very well just now, but we only need to overcome some fairly mediocre opposition to get promoted.

 

The return of David Connolly could be crucial. He was superb today, and I presume he now needs to start alongside Lambert if Barnard is out until next season.

 

I'd even disagree with the not playing very well comment. We are playing some good, interesting football. Not champagne stuff, no real verve but our style of play is really coming together despite losing a bunch of important players to injury.

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We seem to be on the slide, Adkins post match interview was lunatic, he must have been at a different match to the one the rest of us saw. A man under very serious pressure from his boss it seems which would explain why he's becoming erratic.

 

Without Schneiderlin , Lallana & Chamberlain and now Barnard & Jaidi we are just a makeshift side, many players out of position and not knowing their roles; what scares me is it looks like it will be this way until the end of the season.

 

On today's showing absolutely no chance against Brighton and even the other four matches will be a struggle. I'm dreading the thought too of two play-off games against Rochdale.

 

Not the happiest of days despite the 3 points.

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We seem to be on the slide, Adkins post match interview was lunatic, he must have been at a different match to the one the rest of us saw. A man under very serious pressure from his boss it seems which would explain why he's becoming erratic.

 

Without Schneiderlin , Lallana & Chamberlain and now Barnard & Jaidi we are just a makeshift side, many players out of position and not knowing their roles; what scares me is it looks like it will be this way until the end of the season.

 

On today's showing absolutely no chance against Brighton and even the other four matches will be a struggle. I'm dreading the thought too of two play-off games against Rochdale.

 

Not the happiest of days despite the 3 points.

 

on the slide..

we created 23 fuking chances..?

 

 

posh created 13 and hudders created 9.....maybe we are all on the slide

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I thought fighting to stay in the league was torture enough, but I have forgotten how fighting to go the other way is just as nerve racking. There was a lot of frustration in Guly's strike he knew that he wasn't having his best game so putting that away seemed to have quite a lot behind it.

 

The lack of common sense award goes to the booking Forte picked up for catching the ball as it was about to go out over his head, yes it's the letter of the law but come on. A word in his ear was all that was needed.

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I was screaming at Guly run you lazy piece of cr@p when he immediately went and scored only thing he had done up to then that was any good, should have had another soon after but failed to convert. and he is lazy for most of the first half he could have been holding the linesmans / womans flag he never moved from the touchline even when spaces were opening for him infield. where the balls either went to touch or were given away to brizzle

 

with out sounding to much like ALPs, A lot of players need to get fit not just the ones that were injured for today's game or we will need to buy plenty to stand any chance next season of surviving in whichever division we are in.

 

My overall impression of the first live game that iv'e seen this season is was not impressed with what was on offer.

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