Viking Warrior Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Thanks alps thanks for the words of confidence. unlike you to not look for the cloud with the silver lining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Poor game from Saints yet again but I will take the win. Barnard looked to have a nasty injury but Connolly was imense when he came on and changed the game in my opinion. Never wasted a pass, movement, understanding of where to be and I see him building a good partnership understanding with Guly if he can stay fit. As for Lallana, Adkins wanted him to start but Physio told him no way. It is the groin injury he got at Charlton niggling him. He hopes to be fit for Brighton next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 A game to forget in terms of action/performance, but it was an enormous win - especially with the results around us. (I had hudders down to drop points today, buggers) Barnard won't play again this season, not with an injury like that. He's prob done his ligaments - was in total agony. No idea what's up with Lallana though? Surprised it wasn't mentioned in the post-match interview, so I think it's safe to assume he's had another recurrence. Worrying times with all these injuries.... Special mention to Connolly who was outstanding - great player to have up your sleeve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 IMHO first half we were very poor, gave the ball away, shape didn't look right (again) and too many individual errors. Midfield in particular was very poor with Stephens looking woeful. Forte huffed and puffed, but just reminded me of George Lawrence (and he wasn't much of a player!!!!) and Guly seemed disinterested at times (although I did turn to Exit2 and tell him the lad is an engima and will do something special later!!!). Hammond was OK, his usual self, but that midfield was not very clever. Butterfield and Dickson were also very poor in the first half, but many would say the worst performance on the pitch cam from the referee. Not sure how it stayed 11 a side, given how quick he was to brandish the yellow cards. Second half was better from a pressure perspective, but football only improved marginally. Think Rovers invited us on to them which was probably a mistake as we weren't playing well and they could have punished us. A few more chances, Lambert in particular missed what looked like an easy header and Forte missed another. Once again we were misfiring today, but the end result is three points in the bag. Downside was what looked like a very bad injury to Barnard who I don't think we will see again this season. At one point the Club doctor was on the pitch which is not a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Because if neither team win it may allow him to go with a more conservative midfield / not risk anyone who is carrying an injury than if we needed the 3pts just to maintain our position. Especially as we have a game 48hrs later. would be stunned if it changed his plans in the slightest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 IMHO first half we were very poor, gave the ball away, shape didn't look right (again) and too many individual errors. Midfield in particular was very poor with Stephens looking woeful. Forte huffed and puffed, but just reminded me of George Lawrence (and he wasn't much of a player!!!!) and Guly seemed disinterested at times (although I did turn to Exit2 and tell him the lad is an engima and will do something special later!!!). Hammond was OK, his usual self, but that midfield was not very clever. Butterfield and Dickson were also very poor in the first half, but many would say the worst performance on the pitch cam from the referee. Not sure how it stayed 11 a side, given how quick he was to brandish the yellow cards. Second half was better from a pressure perspective, but football only improved marginally. Think Rovers invited us on to them which was probably a mistake as we weren't playing well and they could have punished us. A few more chances, Lambert in particular missed what looked like an easy header and Forte missed another. Once again we were misfiring today, but the end result is three points in the bag. Downside was what looked like a very bad injury to Barnard who I don't think we will see again this season. At one point the Club doctor was on the pitch which is not a good sign. disagree about Dickson and Chicken George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 I always felt that Connolly would have a role to play. If he can stay uninjured he could be vital. If we assume barnard is now out for the rest of the season, who can we expect back ? and when ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Sorry Um if you think Dickson was poor you must of been watching a different player than I was. He was the only one moving and running and getting forward. He played twice as well as Harding has done all season. He was my MOM and about 10 of us watching in our block also gave it to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Sorry Um if you think Dickson was poor you must of been watching a different player than I was. He was the only one moving and running and getting forward. He played twice as well as Harding has done all season. He was my MOM and about 10 of us watching in our block also gave it to him. not sure about mom - but not far off. Our half time chat was that he was only one up for it. Also did well in 2nd when others started performing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 I always felt that Connolly would have a role to play. If he can stay uninjured he could be vital. If we assume barnard is now out for the rest of the season, who can we expect back ? and when ? Adkins indicated in his interview that Adam could be back next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Sorry Um if you think Dickson was poor you must of been watching a different player than I was. He was the only one moving and running and getting forward. He played twice as well as Harding has done all season. He was my MOM and about 10 of us watching in our block also gave it to him. First half Dickson was awful. A couple of times Guly had the ball in front of me and it was crying out for a Hardingesque overlap, but Dickson just hung back. Second half he gave the ball away a few times, once almost cost us dearly and his general distribution was poor. Looked better in the final 20 mins when he pushed on, but IMHO for the majority of the game I would have given him a 5 at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 We are missing Morgan, Adam, Oxo, Jaidi, Barney and Harding 6 first teamers! so todays win was just the business. Barney sounded serious and i think it will be more than a week but we do have connolly fit and fresh at last and could make a difference! Lets have a look t those injuries: Barnard- unlikely to see him for the est of the season Morgan - unlikey to see this season Oxo- unlikely to see this season. Adam...?????? Jaidi - likely to be back for brighton Harding touch and go for Brighton. Chaplow ???? Am i about right, if so we have to hope Connolly is up for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Connolly looked good when he came in, which is a bit of a relief after what happened to Barnard. Guly is lazy and poor. Forte was better than he looks to have come across on the radio. Any idea why Jaidi went off? Getting done for pace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 sorry um, but think you are way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Sorry Um if you think Dickson was poor you must of been watching a different player than I was. He was the only one moving and running and getting forward. He played twice as well as Harding has done all season. He was my MOM and about 10 of us watching in our block also gave it to him. Thought he did alright at rochdale too. Seemed keen to impress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Lets have a look t those injuries: Barnard- unlikely to see him for the est of the season Morgan - unlikey to see this season Oxo- unlikely to see this season. Adam...?????? Jaidi - likely to be back for brighton Harding touch and go for Brighton. Chaplow ???? Am i about right, if so we have to hope Connolly is up for it Morgan is back in full training. I reckon he'll be back for Hartlepool. Chaplow only had a minor knock so should be back for the weekend. Harding would be on the bench anyway. Lallana was probably just rested for Brighton (close call..!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 First half Dickson was awful. A couple of times Guly had the ball in front of me and it was crying out for a Hardingesque overlap, but Dickson just hung back. Second half he gave the ball away a few times, once almost cost us dearly and his general distribution was poor. Looked better in the final 20 mins when he pushed on, but IMHO for the majority of the game I would have given him a 5 at best. Gobsmacked...that is so far away from how I saw it its like watching a different game - Butterfield was abysmal - but Dickson was the only one getting forward - putting in crosss and over lapping. As for Guly ...would you overlap him the way he kept losing it and giving it away and failing to chase back..even adkins commented on i after the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Dickson was great as was fonte. Poor performance 1st half- huffed & puffed 2nd half but we deserved a one nil. Injuries are a worry but we are digging in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Lets have a look t those injuries: Barnard- unlikely to see him for the est of the season Morgan - unlikey to see this season Oxo- unlikely to see this season. Adam...?????? Jaidi - likely to be back for brighton Harding touch and go for Brighton. Chaplow ???? Am i about right, if so we have to hope Connolly is up for it Was Jaidi an injury? We looked better when Seaborne came on, changed our shape. I would go for Dickson over Harding Morgan - big loss Lallana - we need him! As others have said Connolly looked good when he came on, and remember Guly was keeping Barnard out playing as CF prior to his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Morgan is back in full training. I reckon he'll be back for Hartlepool. Chaplow only had a minor knock so should be back for the weekend. Harding would be on the bench anyway. Lallana was probably just rested for Brighton (close call..!) Looks better if you are right. Connolly could do a good job but can he do it for 90 minutes ? Perhaps NA will have to play Forte for the first half and Connolly for the second half in Barnards role ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Just to clarify, Lallana has a groin injury niggle but hopes to be back for Brighton next week. As I said earlier on this thread Adkins wanted him to start but the Physio said no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Was Jaidi an injury? We looked better when Seaborne came on, changed our shape. I would go for Dickson over Harding Morgan - big loss Lallana - we need him! As others have said Connolly looked good when he came on, and remember Guly was keeping Barnard out playing as CF prior to his injury. I reckon Harding is under rated. I assumed jaidi had taken a knock, could well be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Connolly looked good when he came in, which is a bit of a relief after what happened to Barnard. Guly is lazy and poor. Forte was better than he looks to have come across on the radio. Any idea why Jaidi went off? Getting done for pace? I know that he is a player that can divide opinions but I think that Guly is a very good player - probably too good for Div1 and I certainly don`t think that he is lazy. I know that he can give that impression but if you watch his chasing back at times and his ability to get stuck in at tackles, I think that he is well worth a place in our squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 performance.. irrelevant.. result ..essential... win ugly if needs be, but win.......... Spot on,winning ugly is the sign of a side who will win things. Anyone old enough to remember the Arsenal double side from 70/71 will tell you it sometimes wasn't very pretty to watch. The song "you only win 1-0" came from that campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 (edited) Gobsmacked...that is so far away from how I saw it its like watching a different game - Butterfield was abysmal - but Dickson was the only one getting forward - putting in crosss and over lapping. As for Guly ...would you overlap him the way he kept losing it and giving it away and failing to chase back..even adkins commented on i after the game! I'd agree that Danny "hit crosssfield and hope" Butterfield's was poor (particularly his distribution), so at least we agree on that. Not sure what you're saying re Dickson as on one hand you're saying he was overlapping and then the next you're saying he wasn't as he was right not to overlap Guly??? There were three occasions in the first half when he just hung back, when there was space to push on. On the one occasion he did go on the overlap he got in a decent cross. Did you miss the time in the second half when on three straight occasions he either passed to one of their players or got caught in possession??? He finished the game better (and I think he's a decent player), but for me that doesn't atone for his poor first half and mistakes early in the second. Also agree about Guly, he failed to track back, looked disinterested at times and was frustrating. Glad Adkins noticed it. The lad is a bit of an enigma and can go from a Frankie Bennett to Rod Wallace in two minutes. Edited 16 April, 2011 by um pahars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Connolly looked good when he came in, which is a bit of a relief after what happened to Barnard. Guly is lazy and poor. Forte was better than he looks to have come across on the radio. Any idea why Jaidi went off? Getting done for pace? I wish we had subbed him off first half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethallee Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Dickson was solid in first half without getting forward to often but that was addressed at half time and 2nd half he provided good attacking support down left. Was impressed with seaborne especially his passing. Con was class above and his introduction gave us the much needed impetus to win game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Very poor passing and finishing in parts but hey ho three points are all that we will remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 I'd agree that Danny "hit crosssfield and hope" Butterfield's was poor (particularly his distribution), so at least we agree on that. Not sure what you're saying re Dickson as on one hand you're saying he was overlapping and then the next you're saying he wasn't as he was right not to overlap Guly??? There were three occasions in the first half when he just hung back, when there was space to push on. On the one occasion he did go on the overlap he got in a decent cross. Did you miss the time in the second half when on three straight occasions he either passed to one of their players or got caught in possession??? He finished the game better (and I think he's a decent player), but for me that doesn't atone for his poor first half and mistakes early in the second. Also agree about Guly, he failed to track back, looked disinterested at times and was frustrating. Glad Adkins noticed it. Thing is if Barney hadn't got injured we may have subbed Guly, good job Nigel had read the script. Sounds like the sort of game only a piece of individual flair will win for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 I reckon Harding is under rated. I assumed jaidi had taken a knock, could well be wrong. I like Harding, just think Dickson offers more. When Jaidi went off, Seaborne played a lot wider, FBs pushing more forward. Left more of gap between CBs. Don't know if deliberate or just way different CBs play. Seaborne then carried the ball out a lot more meaning midfield pushed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 I thought Dickson put in a good solid shift today. Absolutely gutted about Lee Barnard, cant see that being a short-term knock, but we can only hope. Ref was a useless, clueless c*nt. And i stand by my previous comments regarding Guly, he is a class player, the whingers that bleat about him looking lazy seem to stfu when he suddenly turns on a sixpence and does something spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 I Not sure what you're saying re Dickson as on one hand you're saying he was overlapping and then the next you're saying he wasn't as he was right not to overlap Guly??? There were three occasions in the first half when he just hung back, when there was space to push on. On the one occasion he did go on the overlap he got in a decent cross. Did you miss the time in the second half when on three straight occasions he either passed to one of their players or got caught in possession??? He finished the game better (and I think he's a decent player), but for me that doesn't atone for his poor first half and mistakes early in the second. Also agree about Guly, he failed to track back, looked disinterested at times and was frustrating. Glad Adkins noticed it. The lad is a bit of an enigma and can go from a Frankie Bennett to Rod Wallace in two minutes. He certainly was overlapping when he had Forte on his side as he was right in front of me....guess we will have to agree to diagree on this, certainly all around me thought he was good as well. At least for me Dickson takes them on and tries to get to the bye-line whereas Harding just crosses from deep and gives the defence time to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Guly gets endless stick in the Northam but he shut them up today. He clearly divides opinion but i've said before he's a class act when the ball is at his feet. Very relieved tonight, Adkins deserves credit for the way he had produced a team, with able players (Forte espicially) able to come in for our growing injury list. Lallana will be back for Brighton and was a clever decision to rest him today. With Morgan in full training again it's not looking too bad. I'd play Lambert and Forte upfront with Barnard out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 We did have alot of chances, impressed with forte because pace and is dangerous also the guy that come on for him looked good but maybe lacked a consistent cross, Guly (for his ball control if anything) and Lambert as well. TBH I think the team does have alot more goals in them just need them to find that killer touch. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 I thought Dickson put in a good solid shift today. Absolutely gutted about Lee Barnard, cant see that being a short-term knock, but we can only hope. Ref was a useless, clueless c*nt. And i stand by my previous comments regarding Guly, he is a class player, the whingers that bleat about him looking lazy seem to stfu when he suddenly turns on a sixpence and does something spectacular. I'm not in a position to comment on Guly as I've never seen him play live. I was just interested in the bolded statement. Sounds like someone we used to know in the Dell days!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Thing is if Barney hadn't got injured we may have subbed Guly, good job Nigel had read the script. Sounds like the sort of game only a piece of individual flair will win for you. Connoly was ready to come on just before Barnard got crocked, but didn't see who was originally going to be pulled off. Maybe Guly or Forte??? Would have been surprised if it was Barnard or Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbul Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 At the end of all this, Connelly needs his contract renewing. For the time he was on the pitch he was outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Top six all won. We don't care! Haha! Rochdale lost, depends on whether you count the top 6 yesterday or after the Bournemouth game 1 guess. Good win for Bournemouth today, wouldn't mind seeing them have a stab at the play-offs after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Connoly was ready to come on just before Barnard got crocked, but didn't see who was originally going to be pulled off. Maybe Guly or Forte??? Would have been surprised if it was Barnard or Lambert. Forte had spoken to bench about tight hamstring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 I'm not in a position to comment on Guly as I've never seen him play live. I was just interested in the bolded statement. Sounds like someone we used to know in the Dell days!! Guly will come into his own next season in the NPC when an action that takes place in a nanosecond counterbalances 90 minutes of crap. Berbatov ain't all that good 99.99 % of the time you know, neither is Torres, it's what they do in the 0.01% that pays for all. Remember Gerd Muller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrasri Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 "Guly is lazy and poor." - But he scored a cracking goal that gave us 3 points - without him on the pitch where would a goal come from...Rickie? he was not very effective today but in other games he has provided the ball for LB to score. Which of these guys could we afford to do without? Connolly gave us experience ( and a bit of threat). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch01 Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Davis - 7, good distribution in the main, great save at the end although it wouldn't have counted anyway. Butterfield - 7, a couple of poor crosses but was constantly available for the overlap in the second half. Jaidi - 6, not much to say, looked fine until he went off. Fonte 7.5, class above again, kept the pressure on Bristol by picking up all the clearances and got us going again. Dickson - 8, ran all day, lots of direct movement through their defence. Exactly what we needed today. Guly - 7, the enigma. Lots of good things, brilliant goal, but then he will be complacent and give the ball away in the promising position. Hammond - 7.5, kept the ball, kept us moving. I've changed my mind about him this season, he knows his job and does it efficiently. Stephens - 7, wasn't too impressed in the first half but he looked handy in the second half. His improvement mirrored the team's. Forte - 7.5, not sure where people are coming from when they say he was shocking. His final ball isn't great but he is direct and worried them a few times. Lambert - 6.5, not his best game, looked like he picked up a knock and should have scored with a header. Barnard - 6.5, barely saw him until he came off. Hope he makes a quick recovery. Seaborne - 7, not his biggest fan but he did some intelligent things with the ball in the second half. Connolly - 7.5, excellent. Kept the ball, looked sharp and found space. He could be vital in the last 5 games. N'Guessan - 6.5, did fine and almost scored with a bullet shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Great goal to win the game,Connolly was class and could be very important now Barnard has been added to our growing injury list . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saf... Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Surprised to see Dickson receiving some stick, thought he was one of our best players today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granadino Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 To confirm, was in the hospitality and in the post match interview with Morgan, he said the Jaidi sub was tactical and he wasn't injured. Also said he himself should be back for last 2-3 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Forte was a real handful when he was out left, but when he was getting switched to the right side we didnt seem to look as dangerous. And I thought dany n'guessen looked really good as well, sharp, fast and a difficult player to cope with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jampot Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 (edited) Dixon and Forte were excellent today. Butterfield had a mare in the 1st half but improved in the 2nd. Lambert & Barnard nothing came off for them. Ref had a shocker... Edited 16 April, 2011 by jampot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Barnard has been critical several times this season. Much like you then Seriously though, I'm getting too old for this, that was a tense hour and a half, began to think we would never score and it would be one of those days. I don't think I could take the play-offs, we need to keep winning, even when not playing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 (edited) Was Jaidi an injury? We looked better when Seaborne came on, changed our shape. I would go for Dickson over Harding Morgan - big loss Lallana - we need him! As others have said Connolly looked good when he came on, and remember Guly was keeping Barnard out playing as CF prior to his injury. Seaborne didnt play bad but saying that we looked better when seaborne came on is complete gash mate. What planet are you on? Jaid is a million times better than cborne. Edited 16 April, 2011 by Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Surprised to see Dickson receiving some stick, thought he was one of our best players today. tbf, think it seems Um is on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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