shirleysfc Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 Hi all, Please sign up / support this campaign at the match Saturday if you get a chance. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2338317,00.html It's a travesty that the second best children's cardiac unit in the country is under threat of being closed! Mods: It's on the OS so I assumed it was Saints related enough to be on the main forum, please move to the lounge if not.
Gemmel Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 Mods - please don't move this, it might not be Saints related, but the club is supporting this, so should we.
Baj Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 Steve et al, can't see you online but don't move this.
Teddy Nutkins Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 Hi all, Please sign up / support this campaign at the match Saturday if you get a chance. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2338317,00.html It's a travesty that the second best children's cardiac unit in the country is under threat of being closed! Mods: It's on the OS so I assumed it was Saints related enough to be on the main forum, please move to the lounge if not. Totally agree, it is ironic (or planned) that one of the hospitals competing with Southampton is Bristol, so please take the time out to sign the petition.
shirleysfc Posted 15 April, 2011 Author Posted 15 April, 2011 Totally agree, it is ironic (or planned) that one of the hospitals competing with Southampton is Bristol, so please take the time out to sign the petition. This is the crazy thing with the review Bristol, which finished 6 out of 11 in the quality review, is in all 4 options so will stay open no mater what. Southampton, which finished second and is rated the top unit outside of London, is only in 1 option out of 4!!
shirleysfc Posted 15 April, 2011 Author Posted 15 April, 2011 Mods, any chance this could be a sticky?
Baj Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 Mods, any chance this could be a sticky? Not really any need, itll naturally keep near the top until the match.
The9 Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 And I can help by bumping it by complaining about the lack of the word "Bristol" in the thread title again.
jam Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 This is the crazy thing with the review Bristol, which finished 6 out of 11 in the quality review, is in all 4 options so will stay open no mater what. Southampton, which finished second and is rated the top unit outside of London, is only in 1 option out of 4!! Not read the review but I'd assume they're looking at geography rather than performance. Thanks for the post, I'll look out for the petition.
eelpie Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 I'll definitely sign. (It is appalling that the drive for nationally economy cuts is hitting those most in need of support.)
badgerx16 Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 Just signed the online petition. Anybody who can't be at the match, get on here and do likewise : http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/wchcsaveoceanward/
jam Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 I'll definitely sign. (It is appalling that the drive for nationally economy cuts is hitting those most in need of support.) Especially as the drive for economy cuts is in the main the result of actions of those who need support least.
toofarnorth Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 Absolute joke of a decision. Sign up everyone!!
toofarnorth Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 Not read the review but I'd assume they're looking at geography rather than performance. Thanks for the post, I'll look out for the petition. Yes unfortunately for Southampton the number one performing unit is in Oxford.
shirleysfc Posted 15 April, 2011 Author Posted 15 April, 2011 Yes unfortunately for Southampton the number one performing unit is in Oxford. Umm, in Sir Ian Kennedy’s report into quality the top unit in the country was Guys and St Thomas' with a score of 535, Southampton came second with a score of 513. Oxford scored 237. http://www.saveourheartunit.org/whytheservicemuststay.aspx
Saint_Jonny Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 these guys changed my life a few years back. Will deffo be signing it.
sfc4prem Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 Just signed the online petition. Anybody who can't be at the match, get on here and do likewise : http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/wchcsaveoceanward/ Just signed that, cheers for the link. Sign up people!
holepuncture Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 Umm, in Sir Ian Kennedy’s report into quality the top unit in the country was Guys and St Thomas' with a score of 535, Southampton came second with a score of 513. Oxford scored 237. http://www.saveourheartunit.org/whytheservicemuststay.aspx Signed the petition.
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 This is the crazy thing with the review Bristol, which finished 6 out of 11 in the quality review, is in all 4 options so will stay open no mater what. Southampton, which finished second and is rated the top unit outside of London, is only in 1 option out of 4!! I will be signing this. If you wonder why this unfairness might be so take a look at this map. There again I am a cynic.
Big Bad Bob Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 Having been a regular visitor to Soton Children's unit and GOSH over that last year I can def say that Soton rates above GOSH in my eyes. The treatment of my daughter at Soton has been top notch. It's been bad enough driving from Poole to Soton when she had one of her extended stays, to changed that to Bristol or Oxford would make it very hard..
Big Bad Bob Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 I will be signing this. If you wonder why this unfairness might be so take a look at this map. There again I am a cynic. This decision was being made well before last years general election, heard rumours of this at the beginning of last year...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 This decision was being made well before last years general election, heard rumours of this at the beginning of last year... Disgusting to be honest, placing a cost on care for the sick.
Fan The Flames Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 There is going to be more and more of these tough decisions in the future as the debate on service delivery models continues between general hospitals and centres of excellance. Those making this decision will no doubt defend the accusation that this service review is about cuts as it is clinically believed that less bigger units will improve outcomes for more people. This means however that more people will be inconvenienced more often by having to travel longer differences but this should be weighed up against the improvement of outcomes. Will would all like every type of service on our doorstep but this can not be the case for every community, so as a nation we have to decide what we want, more local services or better ones. Personally I think Southampton has a good chance of survival if the 7 unit model is prefered and that Leicester is the unit in jeopardy and no doubt the people in that area will be campaigning for their unit as well. I only hope that the decison is made on clinical grounds only and that it will improve the lot for everyone and I wish all those children involved the best of luck.
scotty Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 Disgusting to be honest, placing a cost on care for the sick. I agree fwiw, but it happens in every area of healthcare. NICE do it with every new drug that comes through for approval, ie balance the overall costs and benefits of that drug and either approve or reject it for NHS use. This is not a new idea, the last government used the same system.
matt75 Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 I've already signed it, but I can't express enough what an excellent job this unit does. I'm 36 and had open heart surgery last year to fix a heart defect and have come though it the other side. Although I'm 36 the operation was carried out by one of the best childrens heart surgeons in the country, do you think he will still be at Southampton General if we loose the childrens cardiac unit..No. This will not just affect the childrens surgery some of the best consulantants and surgeons we have at Southampton also operate on adults with congenital defects (i.e. have had them from birth).
matt75 Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 Just another point regarding Bristol Heart Unit, when I was in 50% of the patients in my ward were from the Cornwall area. Although Bristol is geographically nearer to them they had all been sent to Southampton as it was the better unit.
krissyboy31 Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 Won't be at the game tomorrow but signed the online petition. Although no longer living in the area, this would be an outrage if this unit was closed.
Ohio Saint Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 Just signed the online petition. Anybody who can't be at the match, get on here and do likewise : http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/wchcsaveoceanward/ Signed online.
niceandfriendly Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 Will sign tomorrow thanks for bringing it to my attention.
trousers Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 "The public across the region and country are being urged to support the campaign to save children's heart surgery at Southampton General Hospital. This follows a long running national review of pediatric cardiac surgery recommending fewer, larger centres across England." Has anyone got a link to a report of the aforementioned "national review of pediatric cardiac surgery"? I'd be interested in reading more about the rationale behind this recommendation.
John Boy Saint Posted 15 April, 2011 Posted 15 April, 2011 Although a tad late, has this been touted on the Gas fans website? As I would imagine that with cut backs Bristol Children with Heart conditions would more than likely be sent to Southampton, so regardless of shirt colours they should be encouraged to sign too.
Toadhall Saint Posted 16 April, 2011 Posted 16 April, 2011 Signed on line - I'll be at the game but think this is to important to chance bumping into someone with a petition.
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