saintsfannick Posted 14 April, 2011 Share Posted 14 April, 2011 Hi, I'm a 3rd year student at Winchester Uni, currently writing my dissertation on football hooliganism in the UK, one part of my project is gathering the opinions of football fans by asking them a few questions about the current state of hooliganism and how it affects you. looking forward to any replies from anyone, I'll email or PM you the questions , if you could please help I'd be grateful, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 14 April, 2011 Share Posted 14 April, 2011 Feel free to PM me. My answers will be boring though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsfannick Posted 14 April, 2011 Author Share Posted 14 April, 2011 thanks mate, ill send it over, any answers are valuable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 14 April, 2011 Share Posted 14 April, 2011 Feel free to PM me. I am top boi in the Kingsland Stand firm. I'm handy with a blade. I've sliced up a few Dundee cakes in my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 14 April, 2011 Share Posted 14 April, 2011 You can't PM.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 14 April, 2011 Share Posted 14 April, 2011 go on then. PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 14 April, 2011 Share Posted 14 April, 2011 Just post the questions up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 14 April, 2011 Share Posted 14 April, 2011 Feel free to PM me. I am top boi in the Kingsland Stand firm. I'm handy with a blade. I've sliced up a few Dundee cakes in my time. If you skank me on almonds again on Saturday I'll ****ing **** your ****ing arse in you ****ing soft *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 14 April, 2011 Share Posted 14 April, 2011 Now jog off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsfannick Posted 14 April, 2011 Author Share Posted 14 April, 2011 so it seems you can't PM people, could I send them to you via email instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 14 April, 2011 Share Posted 14 April, 2011 (edited) Can you post the questionnaire to me? Edited 14 April, 2011 by Deppo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1576 Posted 14 April, 2011 Share Posted 14 April, 2011 Put the questions up on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 14 April, 2011 Share Posted 14 April, 2011 Feel free to pm me the questions saintsfannick. My youngest son is at uni(Chester),also doing lots of dissertations and exams,so i know what you are going through. Anyway good luck mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 14 April, 2011 Share Posted 14 April, 2011 Hi, I'm a 3rd year student at Winchester Uni, currently writing my dissertation on football hooliganism in the UK, one part of my project is gathering the opinions of football fans by asking them a few questions about the current state of hooliganism and how it affects you. looking forward to any replies from anyone, I'll email or PM you the questions , if you could please help I'd be grateful, Nick I bet Jason Tuck is loving it! I loved my time there. Feel free to PM me mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 14 April, 2011 Share Posted 14 April, 2011 You wanna meet my mate stanley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 14 April, 2011 Share Posted 14 April, 2011 There's a very interesting homosexual sub-culture within the hooligan world. You should visit the Ugly Inside forum and track down Stu Romsey Saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 14 April, 2011 Share Posted 14 April, 2011 I never thought I'd hear the words interesting and Stu Romsey Saint in the same post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 14 April, 2011 Share Posted 14 April, 2011 I'm willing to participate nick. I think I can give you a very good view on hooliganism in the lower leagues today compared to in the mid to late seventies. Seriously, when the boot boys of the Milton terrace were hearing about The Millwall Brick I was seeing them used week in week out in div 3 and 4. Google 'Millwall Brick' nick. never directly involved obviously but as a bystander I think I offer a good viewpoint. Many will puff their chests out with tales of bravado and 'how we took The Shed with the Chelsea in it' but inside a crowd does not give thebest view IMO. Also bear in mind that where and when I grew up peOe never had a home phone let omen smart phone to orchestrate a bundle. It was very much a case of knowing the back alleys to head off your prey in those days. Not forgetting the pitch invasions and non segregation of terracing, it could and would flare up at any moment, very volatile. Pay your fiver you tight added college boy and PM me for a meet..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 14 April, 2011 Share Posted 14 April, 2011 Yes, it is IMHO the epitome of homo eroticism. Why else would a man crawl over another man to grapple with another man? Of course no real hooligan bloke will admit to this, more like to grapple with you. Very ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted 14 April, 2011 Share Posted 14 April, 2011 IMO, football hooliganism today is all but dead. Most 'incidents' that occur inside grounds are no more than a few people getting aggro with each other. More often than not it is more likely to be your own fans that cause the problem. Hooliganism was a social thing, nowadays it's a gang thing. The stabbings we all read about today has replaced the running battles of the 70's and the hooliganism of the 80's and 90's. Kids have always wanted to be part of something bigger better harder stronger. bravado has always been around us, however, when it spills out onto the streets and innocents are injured or killed, there will always be a public backlash, be it against the mods and the rockers, punks and skinheads, millwall chelsea, west ham, England Italy, the black community rising against the police in Brixton, etc. If there is no cause, it is gang led, if there is footall involved, it is hooliganism, if there is ethnic minorities involved it is race riots. Football hoolignism is nothing more than an extension of gang warfare and social bravado, with beefed up ego's and testosterone. Boys will always be boys, give em (us) a cause and we will fight until we drop. Then we grow up and move one, well, 90% of us do, there is that small minority that think running with the kids is 'ard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 Yes, it is IMHO the epitome of homo eroticism. Why else would a man crawl over another man to grapple with another man? Of course no real hooligan bloke will admit to this, more like to grapple with you. Very ironic. Then I guess we should really say that about all football fans. Grown men getting all excited, jumping around singing, screaming - some even crying at times! - all for 11 fit young guys running around in shorts. Very homo erotic. Respect to all the old gits in the Kingsland that just sit on their hands with mouths shut tight. (Tho' maybe the tartan blanket across their knees is really just to hide their erections?) Pwoper 'ard b*st*rds, no homo eroticism there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 PM me if you want, I'm pwoper nawty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 will gladly answer pm me the questions- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 PM Danny Dyer - dissertation done!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 If you had a PM I would PM you a link to help you out with background - its a site with all of the current "Firms" and some older ones. I'm not posting it on here tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 If you had a PM I would PM you a link to help you out with background - its a site with all of the current "Firms" and some older ones. I'm not posting it on here tho. Can you post it in the form of a cryptic crossword clue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 Hi, I'm a 3rd year student at Winchester Uni, currently writing my dissertation on football hooliganism in the UK, one part of my project is gathering the opinions of football fans by asking them a few questions about the current state of hooliganism and how it affects you. looking forward to any replies from anyone, I'll email or PM you the questions , if you could please help I'd be grateful, Nick What is your actual dissertation title though? "Hooliganism in the UK" is a very broad brush, are you going to be more specific than that, i.e. "Football hooliganism and it's impact on the average football in the early 1970s vs 2010, on the South Coast"? You need to be specific. You'll probably get all the information you need from: http://www.casspennant.com/book-aggro.shtml http://www.casspennant.com/book-icf.shtml They are actually interesting books to read anyway, quite amusing - but they cover from the 60s to the 80s. Plagiarise away. What are you studying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 (edited) This should help..... Edited 15 April, 2011 by Johnny Bognor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1576 Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 Ahh, Mr Bognor will be able to help with tales of taking the home end at Bournemouth this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 What is your actual dissertation title though? "Hooliganism in the UK" is a very broad brush, are you going to be more specific than that, i.e. "Football hooliganism and it's impact on the average football in the early 1970s vs 2010, on the South Coast"? You need to be specific. You'll probably get all the information you need from: http://www.casspennant.com/book-aggro.shtml http://www.casspennant.com/book-icf.shtml They are actually interesting books to read anyway, quite amusing - but they cover from the 60s to the 80s. Plagiarise away. What are you studying? Now I'm not saying Cass Pennant wasn't a nawty lump - he quite obviously was - but like most hoolie books he had a tendancy to dress it up a bit. He certainly used a bit of artistic licence when he told a 'story' of how the ICF took it to Saints at Orient in the FA Cup back in 1985 - well they did attack a near empty terrace not long after the gates opened while most of the 5k up there that day were still back in the pubs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwiz Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 Hi, I'm a 3rd year student at Winchester Uni, currently writing my dissertation on football hooliganism in the UK, one part of my project is gathering the opinions of football fans by asking them a few questions about the current state of hooliganism and how it affects you. looking forward to any replies from anyone, I'll email or PM you the questions , if you could please help I'd be grateful, Nick of course Officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svetigpung Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 one question....i lived in Winchester for 16 years. When did it get a ****ing Uni? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 of course Officer. You may well be right. Nothing like getting the preparation done early in anticipation of a couple of potentially serious fence-rattling episodes next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WESTIE SFC Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 Send us the questions, always happy to help any student doing their diss! I remember how it felt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 Now I'm not saying Cass Pennant wasn't a nawty lump - he quite obviously was - but like most hoolie books he had a tendancy to dress it up a bit. He certainly used a bit of artistic licence when he told a 'story' of how the ICF took it to Saints at Orient in the FA Cup back in 1985 - well they did attack a near empty terrace not long after the gates opened while most of the 5k up there that day were still back in the pubs! Funny that I was there and I'm sure Cass was stood virtually next to me - no bother. Also funny how he never mentions getting put straight on his arse just outside the Milton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 one question....i lived in Winchester for 16 years. When did it get a ****ing Uni? According to it's website... 1840. Though checking in more detail, in 1992 King Alfred's College started getting accreditation from the University of Southampton, in 2004 they got degree awarding powers of their own, and in 2005 changed to University of Winchester. Not sure if it's the same organisation as the Winchester Art College that Southampton Uni used to run or not, but wouldn't be surprised. If I didn't know better and hadn't been paying attention, I might have missed the Chimpstitute's morphing into Southampton Solent Uni as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 pm mp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 Once you've paid your Lady Goddiver, I'll be happy to answer a few questions on this. This book will be good for research: Steaming In - Colin Ward. Easily the best book of it's time. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Steaming-Colin-Ward/dp/0743495500 Also, as you're probably a pup. Watch this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/I-D-DVD-Reece-Dinsdale/dp/B00004W4H5/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1302881265&sr=8-2 Whilst it won't help with your dissertation, it is a decent film on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 15 April, 2011 Share Posted 15 April, 2011 Once you've paid your Lady Goddiver, I'll be happy to answer a few questions on this. This book will be good for research: Steaming In - Colin Ward. Easily the best book of it's time. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Steaming-Colin-Ward/dp/0743495500 Also, as you're probably a pup. Watch this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/I-D-DVD-Reece-Dinsdale/dp/B00004W4H5/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1302881265&sr=8-2 Whilst it won't help with your dissertation, it is a decent film on the subject. When was the last time you looked at my bum, John?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 There's a gathering in Soton tonight of the finest from days gone by who'd be able to answer all your questions and tell you many a story of their antics however unless you know what i'm talking about then you wont be going along ,i'd imagine some on here will be going if you are have a good one .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Hi, I'm a 3rd year student at Winchester Uni, currently writing my dissertation on football hooliganism in the UK, one part of my project is gathering the opinions of football fans by asking them a few questions about the current state of hooliganism and how it affects you. looking forward to any replies from anyone, I'll email or PM you the questions , if you could please help I'd be grateful, Nick In answer to that question; it occasionally makes me late getting home which is an inconvenience. A couple of years ago I decided to change where I parked after getting 'caught up' in the middle of the Pompey fans being escorted to the station, which again was more of an inconvenience than anything else. As a general rule I feel fairly safe at home games but if I'm gonna be wandering around at an away match I tend not to wear a saints shirt just in case. And I don't just mean in case of opposition trouble, it's also so there is no perceived association with some of the idiots who follow saints. If they want to fight then on their heads be it. Am I a wuss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Yawn. Couldn't you come up with anything better for a dissertation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red robbo Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 paris im going to said gathering been to a few always a top night,but this one is special KC = legend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 There's a gathering in Soton tonight of the finest from days gone by who'd be able to answer all your questions and tell you many a story of their antics however unless you know what i'm talking about then you wont be going along ,i'd imagine some on here will be going if you are have a good one .... I'm going to this tonight. Really looking forward to telling some of the classic stories of those great days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 paris im going to said gathering been to a few always a top night,but this one is special KC = legend! KC is my hero! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Yes still remember the late walks with KC & crowd from The Warrens to the Dell and then watching the match just behind the goal in the Milton.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Really looking forward to seeing KC tonight. Absolute legend of the 70s/80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Seriously?- you paying feck know how many quid in fees to get a degree and are writing a final dissertation on 'football hooliganism? WTF has happened to education? All you need to write about Hooligans is about 5 words.... 'thick morons with no intelligence' - don’t confuse all those stories of about 'lawyers and doctors' as hoolis - ability to pass exams is no market for intelligence.... all the BS social commentry attempting to mitigate feckwit behaviour as a result of 'mob, gang, need for male bravado' has already been written and bored people to death already - seriously - just write ' All those involved in football related violence were a bunch of ignorant c****'and you SHOULD get a First - because thats all thers is too it and it is 100% accurate. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 KC isn't going to like this, not one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 16 April, 2011 Share Posted 16 April, 2011 Seriously?- you paying feck know how many quid in fees to get a degree and are writing a final dissertation on 'football hooliganism? WTF has happened to education? All you need to write about Hooligans is about 5 words.... 'thick morons with no intelligence' - don’t confuse all those stories of about 'lawyers and doctors' as hoolis - ability to pass exams is no market for intelligence.... all the BS social commentry attempting to mitigate feckwit behaviour as a result of 'mob' date=' gang, need for male bravado' has already been written and bored people to death already - seriously - just write ' All those involved in football related violence were a bunch of ignorant c****'and you SHOULD get a First - because thats all thers is too it and it is 100% accurate. :-)[/quote'] Lot of truth in this. Do your thesis on the relation between (a) social depravation (b) academic/educational achievement © thicknesss (d) meainginlessness of life otherwise and (e) football "hooliganism" and you can tie all this together to get a good old thesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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