Saint in Paradise Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 A woman in a burqa was pulled over by the police because she was a “P” plate, (provisional) driver and the plates weren’t displayed correctly. He asked her for her license and asked her to remove her burqa so that he knew it was her license. She accused him of being racist and that the only reason he pulled her over was because she was wearing a burqa. She then told him he would be sorry and that she would take him to court. She then contacted the media and said he was racist, had touched her burqa and she was intimidated by him. Had her accusations been upheld, his career could have been in jeopardy. However, luckily for the policeman, the police car’s video camera was operating and it was all caught on film. She has now been charged and sentenced to jail for 6 months. The judge said she was the racist one. Now her solicitor is saying it wasn’t her who made the complaint but someone else wearing a burqa. He claimed she shouldn’t go to jail because she has 7 children to care for – with no regard for the policeman’s family had he lost his job due to her false accusations. Here is the video: http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/Video.aspx?videoid=af53d2ac-f507-4e8d-983a-a5a259bbe6fc The telling comment came at the end from the newscaster in which she quoted Islamic leaders as saying it it permissable for the burqa to be removed so a Police officer can identify someone. She's doing herself and Muslims no favours in her behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Islam in screwing someone else over shocker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Rah rah, dirty muzlums rah rah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Does she wear a burkha when having a baby? So the doctor can't see her face, but it is alright for him to have both his hands shoved up her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Jobs in Jeopardy. Get your CV's in ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Does she wear a burkha when having a baby? So the doctor can't see her face, but it is alright for him to have both his hands shoved up her. Profound. Banned in France today: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/france-wakes-up-to-a-burka-ban-as-sarkozy-unveils-a-new-era-2266054.html Face painting, fancy dress costumes and novelty face pieces (nose, moustache etc) are all still OK, so they should be able to protect their modesty in our terrible western world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint sfc Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 That would never happen over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 I think we need more threads about how bad the Muslims are. They make my blood boil, they really, really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 A woman in a burqa was pulled over by the police because she was a “P” plate, (provisional) driver and the plates weren’t displayed correctly. He asked her for her license and asked her to remove her burqa so that he knew it was her license. She accused him of being racist and that the only reason he pulled her over was because she was wearing a burqa. She then told him he would be sorry and that she would take him to court. She then contacted the media and said he was racist, had touched her burqa and she was intimidated by him. Had her accusations been upheld, his career could have been in jeopardy. However, luckily for the policeman, the police car’s video camera was operating and it was all caught on film. She has now been charged and sentenced to jail for 6 months. The judge said she was the racist one. Now her solicitor is saying it wasn’t her who made the complaint but someone else wearing a burqa. He claimed she shouldn’t go to jail because she has 7 children to care for – with no regard for the policeman’s family had he lost his job due to her false accusations. Here is the video: http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/Video.aspx?videoid=af53d2ac-f507-4e8d-983a-a5a259bbe6fc The telling comment came at the end from the newscaster in which she quoted Islamic leaders as saying it it permissable for the burqa to be removed so a Police officer can identify someone. She's doing herself and Muslims no favours in her behaviour. If true then the only thing at fault is the attitude of this woman. As well as making false or unfounded accusations she's acting against the laws of her own religion just in a bid to seek attention. Hopefully there'll be an imam at the jail who'll tell her how stupid she's been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 She's doing herself and Muslims no favours in her behaviour.[/b] Why is she representing all Muslims? If someone who is Christian or Jewish or Hindu does something wrong do all others of that religion also get judged? Just in case you're not sure, the answer is no, they don't. If a male rapes a woman does this tarnish all males? If someone who drives an Audi speeds, does it affect the reputation of all Audi drivers? If someone who posts on a football fans message board says something stupid, does it make all football fans stupid? One person cannot be held as representative for a whole religion or a whole community, whatever that community is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 There have been a huge number of white Christian paedophiles operating in Britain recently. These people are evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 What's this Norwaysaint? White Christian people are paedophiles? Thank God we still have some decent black Christians to balance them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Why is she representing all Muslims? If someone who is Christian or Jewish or Hindu does something wrong do all others of that religion also get judged? Just in case you're not sure, the answer is no, they don't. If a male rapes a woman does this tarnish all males? If someone who drives an Audi speeds, does it affect the reputation of all Audi drivers? If someone who posts on a football fans message board says something stupid, does it make all football fans stupid? One person cannot be held as representative for a whole religion or a whole community, whatever that community is. I agree, but unfortunately a lot of people will tar them with the same brush, which, whilst obviously racist on their part, is in a roundabout way a reason why she is not doing other Muslims any favours. I'm not condoning that at all, she can hardly be blamed for the ignorance and racism of others, but unfortunately due to her race some will persecute others for her actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 'tis alright. The aussies will bash up some foreign students as payback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 I'm sick and tired of Muslims playing the race card It's no wonder the hatred towards them is increasing throughout the Western World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 I'm sick and tired of idiots playing the anti Muslim card on this site. I'm also sick and tired of how often it goes ignored. It's a ****ing disgrace that comments like the one above can be ignored by mods and admin and that endless anti Muslim threads are started on this board and NOTHING is ever done about it. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Really good what France have done today. 150 euro fine for wearing a Burka from today on. We should do that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Yup, huge amounts of disgusting and unpleasant crimes committed in Britain and across the world by white Christians, but for some reason many members of saintsweb feel the need to try to point the finger at one group and say this is what they are like. Strange that there are huge numbers of horrible crimes reported in Britain that are by white Christians, but their skin colour or religion isn't deemed important or representative. There have been paedophile rings all over that have involved white Christians, yet the only one getting its own thread on saintsweb has Muslims in the title. It is odd that Boj and steve choose to ignore the clearly unpleasant and racist slant creeping into SWF, but are quickly onto anyone guilty of sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 I thought this was going to be a thread about a barbeque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Given that 82% of the French public approved the ban, what do you think the level of support for a ban would be in the UK? I would say that it would be very high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Given that 82% of the French public approved the ban, what do you think the level of support for a ban would be in the UK? I would say that it would be very high. Do you have a turn out percentage? Because you can be your ******** it wasn't 100%... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Do you have a turn out percentage? Because you can be your ******** it wasn't 100%... That's democracy. Every adult had the chance to vote and 82% of those that voted were in favour of the ban. Good on the French. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Yup, huge amounts of disgusting and unpleasant crimes committed in Britain and across the world by white Christians, but for some reason many members of saintsweb feel the need to try to point the finger at one group and say this is what they are like. Strange that there are huge numbers of horrible crimes reported in Britain that are by white Christians, but their skin colour or religion isn't deemed important or representative. There have been paedophile rings all over that have involved white Christians, yet the only one getting its own thread on saintsweb has Muslims in the title. It is odd that Boj and steve choose to ignore the clearly unpleasant and racist slant creeping into SWF, but are quickly onto anyone guilty of sarcasm. The difference is none of the white Christians (or any other race/religions come to that) are trying to hide behind their religion as a reason not to prosecute them for the crime they committed. That's why it isn't relevant in those cases but it is in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 It is odd that Boj and steve choose to ignore the clearly unpleasant and racist slant creeping into SWF, but are quickly onto anyone guilty of sarcasm. Oh behave. I think threads like this help weed out the gullible from the free-thinkers. If someone on here wants to state their opinion within the confines of the rules, then of course we'll allow it. Clearly your uncomfortable with this thread because of some peoples opinions. No one is breaking any rules, yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mao Cap Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 if she did dis in a muslim country dey wud cut off her leg!!! bet she lyks burning poppy's 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 I agree' date=' but unfortunately [b']the media[/b] will tar them with the same brush, which, whilst obviously racist on their part, is in a roundabout way a reason why she is not doing other Muslims any favours. I'm not condoning that at all, she can hardly be blamed for the ignorance and racism of others, but unfortunately due to her race some will persecute others for her actions. I corrected your post for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 I'm sick and tired of idiots playing the anti Muslim card on this site. I'm also sick and tired of how often it goes ignored. It's a ****ing disgrace that comments like the one above can be ignored by mods and admin and that endless anti Muslim threads are started on this board and NOTHING is ever done about it. Pathetic. Calm down Deppo, or I might have to call a waaaahmbulance for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 (edited) 81% of people in the Daily Mail poll voted in favour of a ban. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1375265/UK-Muslims-including-Anjem-Choudary-arrested-France-burka-protest.html 67% in a yougov poll voted in favour of a ban. http://today.yougov.co.uk/life/burqa-ban I rest my case. Edited 11 April, 2011 by dune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Oh behave. I think threads like this help weed out the gullible from the free-thinkers. If someone on here wants to state their opinion within the confines of the rules, then of course we'll allow it. Clearly your uncomfortable with this thread because of some peoples opinions. No one is breaking any rules, yet So pointing out the wrongdoing of certain muslims, with special emphasis on their being muslims, without any reference to similar acts committed by other people groups, in a none too carefully veiled attempt to make out that muslims are bad people (see this thread and the paedophile one), that's not 'suggested or implied racism'? Yes, of course it is. Imputing the ills of society to a specific people group... mmm, that rings a few bells. This kind of thing only 'weeds out the gullible from the free-thinkers' in the sight of the 'free-thinkers', i.e. it only serves to confirm the beliefs of those operating under a blind prejudice. Dune is the only poster around here who seems to wear his prejudice as a badge of thought-out deliberation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 (edited) http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/Video.aspx?videoid=af53d2ac-f507-4e8d-983a-a5a259bbe6fc The telling comment came at the end from the newscaster in which she quoted Islamic leaders as saying it it permissable for the burqa to be removed so a Police officer can identify someone. She's doing herself and Muslims no favours in her behaviour. You are doing yourself and all people who might be in someway similar to you no favours by raising this pointless story. Edited 11 April, 2011 by Barry the Badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 So pointing out the wrongdoing of certain muslims, with special emphasis on their being muslims, without any reference to similar acts committed by other people groups, i Stop being such a retard. The article / story is about a woman wearing a Burqa and refusing to remove it when asked to by the Police. The woman was also a Muslim, which is why she was wearing the Burqa in the first place. Nobody is saying - well apart from Deppo and Norwaysaint who are the same person - that all Muslims are bad, just that this particular one is ignorant, trying to claim that she doesn't have to remove her Burqa because of her religion, seemingly without any knowledge of said religion that states she is permitted to remove it when asked to by the police! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint sfc Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 That would never happen over here. I of course meant an Australian becoming a policeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch of Maycomb Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Nobody is saying - well apart from Deppo and Norwaysaint who are the same person - that all Muslims are bad You retard. Read the thread again. You are such a retard. What a retarded man you are. You are a retard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 France nearly elected Jean-Marie Le Pen a decade ago, and his daughter is currently a close second in the polls as the new leader of Le Front National. Thankfully, Britain isn't quite that right-wing yet, so I highly doubt we'll see anything similar to the burka/niqab ban that's been passed across the channel. The woman in the OP was obviously in a tricky situation, does she go against her religious/cultural beliefs and remove her burka or go against Australian law and disobey the instructions of a police officer? There's all kinds of different obligations in a situation like that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Stop being such a retard. The article / story is about a woman wearing a Burqa and refusing to remove it when asked to by the Police. The woman was also a Muslim, which is why she was wearing the Burqa in the first place. Nobody is saying - well apart from Deppo and Norwaysaint who are the same person - that all Muslims are bad, just that this particular one is ignorant, trying to claim that she doesn't have to remove her Burqa because of her religion, seemingly without any knowledge of said religion that states she is permitted to remove it when asked to by the police! The story would pass as a minor footnote in international news (and probably wouldn't even be reported over here) were it not for a desire to portray muslims as conniving. If the OP were really concerned that this story paints muslims in a bad light, he would never have given it further publicity by posting it on the forum of a football club from a different country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 France nearly elected Jean-Marie Le Pen a decade ago, and his daughter is currently a close second in the polls as the new leader of Le Front National. Thankfully, Britain isn't quite that right-wing yet, so I highly doubt we'll see anything similar to the burka/niqab ban that's been passed across the channel. Are you against democracy? Or are you just against democracy when the likely outcome doesn't suit? Polls suggest most people in Britain support a ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 The telling comment came at the end from the newscaster in which she quoted Islamic leaders as saying it it permissable for the burqa to be removed so a Police officer can identify someone. She's doing herself and Muslims no favours in her behaviour. Islam isn't the issue, it's the extremist interpretations of it which cause issues, just like religious extremism always has and will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 81% of people in the Daily Mail poll voted in favour of a ban. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1375265/UK-Muslims-including-Anjem-Choudary-arrested-France-burka-protest.html 67% in a yougov poll voted in favour of a ban. http://today.yougov.co.uk/life/burqa-ban I rest my case. But is that their true opinion or are they highly influenced what they've been spoon-fed by the paranoid right-wing media, The Mail for instance? People are scared of what they don't know, and most Brits aren't particularly familiar with the ins and outs of the Muslim faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 But is that their true opinion or are they highly influenced what they've been spoon-fed by the paranoid right-wing media, The Mail for instance? People are scared of what they don't know, and most Brits aren't particularly familiar with the ins and outs of the Muslim faith. Oh dear. So if someone doesn't agree with Super Mikey they haven't formed the right opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Are you against democracy? Or are you just against democracy when the likely outcome doesn't suit? Polls suggest most people in Britain support a ban. I'm not against democracy, just pointing out that France is a much more right-wing country than us, and indeed Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Oh behave. I think threads like this help weed out the gullible from the free-thinkers. If someone on here wants to state their opinion within the confines of the rules, then of course we'll allow it. Clearly your uncomfortable with this thread because of some peoples opinions. No one is breaking any rules, yet What?! No-one on this thread has broken any rules? In that case, remove the sticky that talks baout "suggested, implied or blatant" racism because it's meaningless. If you can't see any implied racism on this thread then there's something wrong with you. You've used that argument about weeding out gullibles from free thinkers before and have previously also stated that racists do more harm to themselves and their argument than anythign else. This is nonsense. The evidence that it's nonsense is (1) look how many anti Islamic threads you have on this site - there's loads because people feel they can say anti Islamic stuff here and be backed up by others who think the same. You are in danger of allowing this place to become the playground of racists and people with agendas which most decent folk would consider offensive (2) when one idiot sees another idiot posting racist and anti Islamic stuff they feel vindicated and justified in holding their own stupid and offensive opinions. People are using this site to spread anti Islmaic feeling and you are allowing that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 What?! No-one on this thread has broken any rules? In that case, remove the sticky that talks baout "suggested, implied or blatant" racism because it's meaningless. If you can't see any implied racism on this thread then there's something wrong with you. You've used that argument about weeding out gullibles from free thinkers before and have previously also stated that racists do more harm to themselves and their argument than anythign else. This is nonsense. The evidence that it's nonsense is (1) look how many anti Islamic threads you have on this site - there's loads because people feel they can say anti Islamic stuff here and be backed up by others who think the same. You are in danger of allowing this place to become the playground of racists and people with agendas which most decent folk would consider offensive (2) when one idiot sees another idiot posting racist and anti Islamic stuff they feel vindicated and justified in holding their own stupid and offensive opinions. People are using this site to spread anti Islmaic feeling and you are allowing that to happen. I am a Christian and I have no complaints about this thread. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?29439-UK-Christian-Child-Abuse-incident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Oh dear. So if someone doesn't agree with Super Mikey they haven't formed the right opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Stop being such a retard. The article / story is about a woman wearing a Burqa and refusing to remove it when asked to by the Police. The woman was also a Muslim, which is why she was wearing the Burqa in the first place. Nobody is saying - well apart from Deppo and Norwaysaint who are the same person - that all Muslims are bad, just that this particular one is ignorant, trying to claim that she doesn't have to remove her Burqa because of her religion, seemingly without any knowledge of said religion that states she is permitted to remove it when asked to by the police! I'm sick and tired of Muslims playing the race card It's no wonder the hatred towards them is increasing throughout the Western World Some evidence that you are wrong. And calling someone a retard is against the rules of the board - remember when you said people should follow the simple rules. I have reported your remark because I am sure you understand the need for rules to be followed (well, you seemed to understand when it was me who broke the rules) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint sfc Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 I feel sick. Muslims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 The woman in the OP was obviously in a tricky situation, does she go against her religious/cultural beliefs and remove her burka or go against Australian law and disobey the instructions of a police officer? There's all kinds of different obligations in a situation like that.. Did you even read the OP or watch the video?. Removing her burka at the request of a police officer (muslim or otherwise) is NOT against her religion or cultural belief. She simply tried to (falsely) play the race card to get herself out of trouble - and failed miserably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Did you even read the OP or watch the video?. Removing her burka at the request of a police officer (muslim or otherwise) is NOT against her religion or cultural belief. She simply tried to (falsely) play the race card to get herself out of trouble - and failed miserably. Yes, she did. She was in the wrong. But that does not mean that all Muslims are in the wrong or that Islam is a bad religion or anything else that people with agendas wish to claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Some evidence that you are wrong. And calling someone a retard is against the rules of the board - remember when you said people should follow the simple rules. I have reported your remark because I am sure you understand the need for rules to be followed (well, you seemed to understand when it was me who broke the rules) Does this mean Deppo won't be making any more sarcastic posts now you are doing what you complained about hypo doing? i.e reporting posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Did you even read the OP or watch the video?. Removing her burka at the request of a police officer (muslim or otherwise) is NOT against her religion or cultural belief. She simply tried to (falsely) play the race card to get herself out of trouble - and failed miserably. Note to self: Pay more attention to situation in hand if trying to be a smartarse. I had assumed that Muslim women weren't allowed to remove their burka regardless, obviously that's not correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 The woman in the OP was obviously in a tricky situation, does she go against her religious/cultural beliefs and remove her burka or go against Australian law and disobey the instructions of a police officer? All Australians are free to followany religion they choose, so long as its practices do not break any Australian law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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