silversaint Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Got 3 spare tickets. £15 each. Anyone want them?
benjii Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 This will be a tough game without a doubt, but I think some people are making it sound like we will be lucky to get a point. We should be able to go to places like Rochdale and win and I think we can. Exactly. It will be tough but there's no reason to expect it to be any tougher than a whole host of other away matches we have won or drawn.
Roger Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Exactly. It will be tough but there's no reason to expect it to be any tougher than a whole host of other away matches we have won or drawn. We can win with the squad we have. Jonno quick scored 2 goals and hasnt played since. Encouraging to see morgan running and looks like he will be back soon and dale stephens too. With morgan back our squad will be awesome. Connolly is even fit! Chaplow for me was poor on weekend and has been for ages and hammond wasnt great on sat either. For me the centre midfield is our weak point still. Lambert and barny fine and the centre backs are simply amazing at mo. Love being a saints fan at mo.
derry Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 No. That means we are allowing Rochdale to determine our tactics. That is a negative move and sets a negative tone. Let them worry about us, not the other way around. This is a very different Saints sides to the shambles that played Rochdale at SMS. It's far from negative as he is Rochdale's stand out player. Playmaker and top scorer. Take him out of the equation as he is so fundamental to Rochdale, that neutralising him will make our chances of winning increase. As we play a holding midfielder anyway and play a narrow diamond it would be no problem to shut him out by playing Aaron Martin on him with two central midfielders playing normally with Guly, Lambert and Barnard in front. If we play 4-4-2 then we we don't need to do it. With the narrow diamond we surrender the wide areas to the opposition and he will exploit that with his passing ability and cause us a lot of problems.
Saint_Jonny Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Can't wait for tonight, first game i've been able to get too for ages. Probs leave at about half 5...sounds late but even then i'll prob get there way too early and sit around on my own all bored. Might leave at 6.... anyway, reckon it'll be 1-2 Saint, t'will be a close run thing for sure! COYR
Saint Charlie Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 It's far from negative as he is Rochdale's stand out player. Playmaker and top scorer. Take him out of the equation as he is so fundamental to Rochdale, that neutralising him will make our chances of winning increase. As we play a holding midfielder anyway and play a narrow diamond it would be no problem to shut him out by playing Aaron Martin on him with two central midfielders playing normally with Guly, Lambert and Barnard in front. If we play 4-4-2 then we we don't need to do it. With the narrow diamond we surrender the wide areas to the opposition and he will exploit that with his passing ability and cause us a lot of problems. Jones is a good player, but he isn't Xavi or Iniesta. I don't think playing Aaron Martin in midfield would set the tone for a win myself. All for hearing interesting ideas though.
View From The Top Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Jones is a good player, but he isn't Xavi or Iniesta. I don't think playing Aaron Martin in midfield would set the tone for a win myself. This.
derry Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Jones is a good player, but he isn't Xavi or Iniesta. I don't think playing Aaron Martin in midfield would set the tone for a win myself. All for hearing interesting ideas though. I'm not proposing that Martin plays in midfield. I'm suggesting he man to man marks Jones who is probably the most effective central midfield playmaker in this division. Take him out and Rochdale will struggle. Let him play and he could cause big problems.
The9 Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 I'm not proposing that Martin plays in midfield. I'm suggesting he man to man marks Jones who is probably the most effective central midfield playmaker in this division. Take him out and Rochdale will struggle. Let him play and he could cause big problems. I don't understand your logic, if he's man marking a central midfield playmaker he's going to be (mostly) playing in the defensive midfield position just because of where he'll have to be to be next to his opponent. Also, I've never seen Martin man-mark, who knows if he could do that ?
View From The Top Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Just got home to find a poorly son and his mum said he can't go to the match. Downer.
derry Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 I don't understand your logic, if he's man marking a central midfield playmaker he's going to be (mostly) playing in the defensive midfield position just because of where he'll have to be to be next to his opponent. Also, I've never seen Martin man-mark, who knows if he could do that ? He did a good job on Kevin Davies v Bolton. He just goes wherever Jones goes. Whereas a defensive midfielder picks up any threat in his zone, I'm suggesting a close marking of Jones because he is so vital to them. Knock him out of the equation and Rochdale are only half the threat.
Bucks Saint Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Can't wait for tonight, first game i've been able to get too for ages. Probs leave at about half 5...sounds late but even then i'll prob get there way too early and sit around on my own all bored. Might leave at 6.... anyway, reckon it'll be 1-2 Saint, t'will be a close run thing for sure! COYR Am so badly organised. Been to York for a work meeting this morning (5am start), now in Halifax for another work meeting. Rochdale just "up t'road" but I have a train ticket back down South booked instead of a match ticket and a flaming hotel. Doh
Hopkins Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 He did a good job on Kevin Davies v Bolton. He just goes wherever Jones goes. Whereas a defensive midfielder picks up any threat in his zone, I'm suggesting a close marking of Jones because he is so vital to them. Knock him out of the equation and Rochdale are only half the threat. An absurd idea by the way. Horrendous. Giving a CB a job to play midfield (Whether you like it or not, thats where Jones is, therefore thats where Martin will be ) will nullify our attacking threat as well as theirs. If we really are that worried about Jones then Hammond is more than capable of doing that job, and seeing as thats his natural position i'd much prefer he's given that role than Martin. Personally as much as Jones has scored some goals this year and is one of there biggest threats, doing a man marking job on him is absurd in my eyes because it hinders our attacking play, creates space for others in there team to exploit and will only help to ruin any shape we might have and cause confusion. I'm sure we have ways of dealing with his threat, and i'm sure they are more than able to execute those ways in a shape which doesn't harm our play and suits us better. Sticking a CB on him may plug one hole, but it could easily open up others.
Barry the Badger Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Man marking to this extent is rarely used because it pulls the teams shape around all over the place. Personally I would say if our players cannot handle Rochdale's Jones in a normal system then we have issues. Confident our midfield/defence can deal with him.
Barry the Badger Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 A clean sh!t would do me tonight. No chance mate, you are forgetting that they have Gary 'Ronaldo' Jones on their side.
eurosaint Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Can't wait for tonight, first game i've been able to get too for ages. Probs leave at about half 5...sounds late but even then i'll prob get there way too early and sit around on my own all bored. Might leave at 6.... anyway, reckon it'll be 1-2 Saint, t'will be a close run thing for sure! COYR Try 5.45 ! HTH
doc oli Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 I'm looking forward to seeing Gillian Duffy tonight. Lovely lady. 'Town full of bigots, you're just a town full of bigots'...
Colinjb Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 We win tonight and I will firmly start believing, if we don't still no immediate dramas. For once please can we just take the easy route to something.
ericofarabia Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 In The Alps - no sign of the man himself here in Val Thoren. Hardly any chance of me listening to the game tonight - WIFI very poor in our hiotel. Weather the last few days been sunnier than Dubai on a good day!! Today low cloud/fog made skking nearly impossible but we managed!! Going for a narrow 1-0 with Barney in 85th min. COYS lets nail this 2nd spot. Have fun tonight boys and girls.
paulwantsapint Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 rest guly & replace with JQF either on right wing or up top with barney & play rickie top of diamond with simple bally instructions of get the ball to no.7 KD & defence can equal clean sh!t record tonight then break it on sat
Window Cleaner Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 In The Alps - no sign of the man himself here in Val Thoren. Hardly any chance of me listening to the game tonight - WIFI very poor in our hiotel. Weather the last few days been sunnier than Dubai on a good day!! Today low cloud/fog made skking nearly impossible but we managed!! Going for a narrow 1-0 with Barney in 85th min. COYS lets nail this 2nd spot. Have fun tonight boys and girls. Probably not the wifi at fault, just the connection,must be still on non-degroupé in VT...2 mega max for everyone to share. A couple of kids playing MMRG online will fùck it up for everybody.
Saint_Jonny Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Leaving now! Ganna get some greasy fast food on the way. COME ON YOU RED AND WHITE MACHINE!!
Colinjb Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Leaving now! Ganna get some greasy fast food on the way. COME ON YOU RED AND WHITE MACHINE!! The Le-Tissier diet. Love the style!
alpine_saint Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 In The Alps - no sign of the man himself here in Val Thoren. Hardly any chance of me listening to the game tonight - WIFI very poor in our hiotel. Weather the last few days been sunnier than Dubai on a good day!! Today low cloud/fog made skking nearly impossible but we managed!! Going for a narrow 1-0 with Barney in 85th min. COYS lets nail this 2nd spot. Have fun tonight boys and girls. Do you mean me ?
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Do you mean me ?Oh GOD !!!! Please go away before you jinx it !!!!
Matthew Le God Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Here is the team... 4-4-2 (Diamond) Davis. Richardson, Fonte, Jaidi, Harding. Hammond, Stephens, Dickson, Guly. Barnard, Lambert Saints bench: Bialkowski, Butterfield, Forte, Martin, Seaborne, Lallana & Gobern. Chaplow misses out with knock
Saint Charlie Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Stephens in starting XI. No Chaplow or Lallana.
aintforever Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 A draw wouldn't be a bad result tonight but a win would really heap the pressure on Huddersfield and Peterborough.
Hamilton Saint Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 A draw wouldn't be a bad result tonight but a win would really heap the pressure on Huddersfield and Peterborough. So, let's go for the win, eh?!
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 If anyone would lend me their saints player details for tonight's game I would be eternally grateful!
Turkish Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 it'll be tough but we have won at all the teams around them, Bournemouth, Orient, Colchester and Exeter, who are all better at home than them based on points per game. No reason why we cant win tonight, although i'd take a draw.
didulike1t Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Stuck I'n traffic on M6 me my brother my son my Dad and Smiler (who is 53today) all f ing raving mad and cheesed right off looks like we will miss the first 20 mins I just hope that we also miss our first 4 goals I'n that 20 min lol Massive game this draw or loss and we are still I'n touching distance of the championship but WIN and the title is very firmly ON! Coyr
Elias Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 We'll need to be at our best to get 3 points here. It'll be very difficult and I can see points being dropped.
John B Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 A draw wouldn't be a bad result tonight but a win would really heap the pressure on Huddersfield and Peterborough. Yes totally agree We need to play it tight for the first 30 mins perhaps
Leicestersaint Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Stuck I'n traffic on M6 me my brother my son my Dad and Smiler (who is 53today) all f ing raving mad and cheesed right off looks like we will miss the first 20 mins I just hope that we also miss our first 4 goals I'n that 20 min lol Massive game this draw or loss and we are still I'n touching distance of the championship but WIN and the title is very firmly ON! Coyr Good luck and hope you get there soon.
dubai_phil Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Here is the team... 4-4-2 (Diamond) Davis. Richardson, Fonte, Jaidi, Harding. Hammond, Stephens, Dickson, Guly. Barnard, Lambert Saints bench: Bialkowski, Butterfield, Forte, Martin, Seaborne, Lallana & Gobern. Chaplow misses out with knock Looks sensible, Butterfiled on the bench gives the cover option for CM & RB, not rushing Adam in case. Still no idea what has happened to N'guessan, 4 defenders on the bench & no Connelly. Perhaps Saturday's run around has put him back where he feels most comfy these days? Hope we don't have to chase the game
Saint_clark Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Looks sensible, Butterfiled on the bench gives the cover option for CM & RB, not rushing Adam in case. Still no idea what has happened to N'guessan, 4 defenders on the bench & no Connelly. Perhaps Saturday's run around has put him back where he feels most comfy these days? Hope we don't have to chase the game That bench gives cover for literally every position.
SaintBobby Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Jaidi seems to have found a new lease of life. Playing very, very well and in game after game.
saints-cris Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Nervous now, get straight at them early and we can make promotion look oh so close
LGTL Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Stuck I'n traffic on M6 me my brother my son my Dad and Smiler (who is 53today) all f ing raving mad and cheesed right off looks like we will miss the first 20 mins I just hope that we also miss our first 4 goals I'n that 20 min lol Massive game this draw or loss and we are still I'n touching distance of the championship but WIN and the title is very firmly ON! Coyr If it makes you feel any better, SKY have reported that the majority of Chelsea fans are stuck in it too!
del boy Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Good to see Diamond Davis in goal again .... hope he's feeling sharp
VectisSaint Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 If it makes you feel any better, SKY have reported that the majority of Chelsea fans are stuck in it too! As well as most of the Manure supporters.
dubai_phil Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Way Hey - We have to control the controllables. Have to keep chipping away. Have to work hard Lallana did not even take any part in the warm ups sat it out on the bench
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Good to see Diamond Davis in goal again .... hope he's feeling sharp 17 clean sheets...
Saint_clark Posted 12 April, 2011 Posted 12 April, 2011 Kick off any minute; http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?29460-Rochdale-V-Southampton-first-half-and-half-time-thread.
Recommended Posts