jim_bergerac Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Any of the 'Scottish' Saints heading down for this one, I will be on the 14:11 from Edinburgh Haymarket. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Originally Posted by Matthew Le God How do you know Nigel Adkins and the squad are budgeting for a defeat at Brighton? I very much doubt they are. Same way be budgeted for a loss at Norwich last season.....oh We showed sufficient form prior to that Norwich game to expect a result, at the moment I am not 100%. We did what was required at the O's, but it hardly sounded convincing. But we should still have enough class to win ugly at Rochdale given our squad, if they put in the effort. To me the Rochdale game is now key, win that and the opposition will not be so focused on the automatic spot, especially if they don't get maximum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 We showed sufficient form prior to that Norwich game to expect a result, at the moment I am not 100%. We did what was required at the O's, but it hardly sounded convincing. But we should still have enough class to win ugly at Rochdale given our squad, if they put in the effort. To me the Rochdale game is now key, win that and the opposition will not be so focused on the automatic spot, especially if they don't get maximum. It might not have sounded it, but it really was convincing. They may have had more possession 2nd half, but they tested Davis once, and that was a pretty routine save. Nothing much gets past our defence at the moment, and we were always in control, with an extra couple of gears to move into if it was needed. As it was, they weren't, and it was very comfortable without having to risk the likes of Lallana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Strange how anyone can talk about losing in the same breath as winning - but that's football. As I see tomorrow nights game is an opportunity for us to cement our position in 2nd place - or miss out on doing so! Rochdale will fancy another home win plus they've already beaten us at SMS! There are no gimmes in this league - heart and endeavour with a big slice of luck will be required to get anything. I'm sure there will be a big away following - especially as we are in a current rich vein of form with some decent results. Maybe not the 3,200+ seen at Orient - but I would guess anything around 1,000 would be a great turn out. I've never been to Rochdale so it's a new one for me - I usually have a good record at new grounds so let's hope it is an omen! Some places just don't sit well with me Old Trafford and Tranmere are two I distinctly dislike...but it has to be done! Whatever the outcome - score, bookings/sendings off, injuries etc - remember it is only one of our games in hand! No need for suicidal posts for the next 3-days before Bristol Rovers or calling for Adkins',Barnard's or Jaidi's (insert name here) head. It's a team game and we are now acknowledged as the 12th man - so make it count. One game at a time and it's costing me more than a dime... See you mongs in the away end or The Church Inn to give them 110% BACKING TO THE END! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Rochdale's home form is joint worst in the top half of the table (shared with Brentford). Much worse than Bournemouth or Orient. They've won 8 out of 19. Points are ours if we want them enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 play offs at the moment is a very unlikely scenario. It will take a serious dip in form for us to miss out on 2nd. (Our form would need to return to the Wilkins period) We got 10 points from the last 4 games. We now have 7 games to get 15 points (But i still think 11/12 will be enough...) Over the last 7 games we have accumulated 19 points, the 7 games before that we accumulated 14 points and the 7 games before that we got 13 points. See what I'm getting at....? And those groups of 7 games include defeats at the likes of Tranmere/Wallsall etc. So we even have the luxury of being able to drop a point or two (not saying we will) IF we do not get 2nd our form will be so bad that we will not win the playoffs. I feel 2nd or another season in league 1. We WILL get 2nd though I have no doubt 4 ins will do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyb1 Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 It might not have sounded it, but it really was convincing. They may have had more possession 2nd half, but they tested Davis once, and that was a pretty routine save. Nothing much gets past our defence at the moment, and we were always in control, with an extra couple of gears to move into if it was needed. As it was, they weren't, and it was very comfortable without having to risk the likes of Lallana. I´m sorry but it really wasn´t. We did defend very well however we invited endless pressure due to our inabliity to hold on the ball in midfield. Good first half performancee very average 2nd half and excellent result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Over 900 sold already. VERY GOOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 I´m sorry but it really wasn´t. We did defend very well however we invited endless pressure due to our inabliity to hold on the ball in midfield. Good first half performancee very average 2nd half and excellent result. Well I must have been well under the influence then (most likely) as from where I was standing it felt a doddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Tough game but ain't they all now. Be happy with a point but really would love all 3 - we have enough about us and can't really see Rochdale parking the bus and hoping to catch us on the break - they need and want the 3 points to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 I´m sorry but it really wasn´t. We did defend very well however we invited endless pressure due to our inabliity to hold on the ball in midfield. Good first half performancee very average 2nd half and excellent result. That is the game that I saw on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 I may be missing something here, but surely it matters not how we win, the fact we can play badly and still win (MK Dons) proves we are producing promotion form. Some people will whinge about anything !!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 a draw would not be a bad result...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Well I must have been well under the influence then (most likely) as from where I was standing it felt a doddle. Did where I was stood as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Anyone got a spare seat heading back down towards London or Bedford sort of way? Got a ticket without realising last train from Manchester is at half 9 and a 5 hour bus journey isnt highly appealing. Oh and a win is really needed, got to really push for automatic as quick as possible to compensate for all our silly mistakes at places like Tranmere and Walsall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Some people are making their assessment based on the fact that Rochdale were capable of beating us at St Mary's, therefore they ought to be capable of beating us when playing at home. But a closer inspection of certain circumstances surrounding that match will be instructive in forming a different conclusion, perhaps. The match was the first under Wilkins as caretaker, following Pardew's dismissal. That dismissal followed a weak start to the season and much was claimed by many that the pre-season preparation had not been good, that players were not fit and that Pardew's heart wasn't really in it. Looking back, Lambert didn't seem to be right and has only recently shown glimmers of his old self within the past month or two. Whether the confidence of the team had been affected by Pardew's dismissal is also a possible factor. Barnard was also suspended, another player who can make a difference and who is now in devastating form. Chamberlain played, but was at that time still a bit raw, as was Martin. Reading the match report again, we also had the Puncheon that fired shots into row Z. In that game, Connolly was up front. So Lambert and Barnard firing on all cylinders is a far more potent attack, Jaidi with Fonte a better defence. OK, Schneiderlin had played and is missed perhaps, but the midfield we have now is doing well, with Dickson looking good out wide and Lallana possibly returning if needed. And what about the team spirit now under Adkins? Quite a different kettle of fish to that under Wilkins post Pardew, I'd say. Tactical awareness? Also better with Adkins IMO. Also, the team can clearly see the prospect of promotion as a reality if they keep their concentration going for a little while longer. So overall, there are many reasons why the match tomorrow should be quite different to that earlier in the season. Despite all this, we'll probably lose because that is what Saints do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 A defeat wouldn't be a disaster and end our season, a draw would be a good effort and would keep us out in front - but a win would be amazing and we'd almost be over the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 I don't want to seem arrogant, but we really should be looking to beat Rochdale regardless!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's There Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Some people are making their assessment based on the fact that Rochdale were capable of beating us at St Mary's, therefore they ought to be capable of beating us when playing at home. But a closer inspection of certain circumstances surrounding that match will be instructive in forming a different conclusion, perhaps. The match was the first under Wilkins as caretaker, following Pardew's dismissal. That dismissal followed a weak start to the season and much was claimed by many that the pre-season preparation had not been good, that players were not fit and that Pardew's heart wasn't really in it. Looking back, Lambert didn't seem to be right and has only recently shown glimmers of his old self within the past month or two. Whether the confidence of the team had been affected by Pardew's dismissal is also a possible factor. Barnard was also suspended, another player who can make a difference and who is now in devastating form. Chamberlain played, but was at that time still a bit raw, as was Martin. Reading the match report again, we also had the Puncheon that fired shots into row Z. In that game, Connolly was up front. So Lambert and Barnard firing on all cylinders is a far more potent attack, Jaidi with Fonte a better defence. OK, Schneiderlin had played and is missed perhaps, but the midfield we have now is doing well, with Dickson looking good out wide and Lallana possibly returning if needed. And what about the team spirit now under Adkins? Quite a different kettle of fish to that under Wilkins post Pardew, I'd say. Tactical awareness? Also better with Adkins IMO. Also, the team can clearly see the prospect of promotion as a reality if they keep their concentration going for a little while longer. So overall, there are many reasons why the match tomorrow should be quite different to that earlier in the season. Despite all this, we'll probably lose because that is what Saints do. Here's the change. Saints will no longer let us down... they've prooved that over the previous 8 matches. Confidence is high, but feet are firmly on the ground. Saints will win tomorrow 2:0 Happy Days- Promotion will be achieved with 2 games to spare imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Making my first away trip of the season tomorrow....god i must be mad!! Really hope the players see this as a brilliant chance to cement second place and dont give Rochdale a look in. Really looking forward to going with minibarcelona and justmike. Thanks justmike for driving, its a hell of a long way! My heart says 2-0 win Saints, my head says 1-1....I will be happy with either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Some people are making their assessment based on the fact that Rochdale were capable of beating us at St Mary's, therefore they ought to be capable of beating us when playing at home. But a closer inspection of certain circumstances surrounding that match will be instructive in forming a different conclusion, perhaps. The match was the first under Wilkins as caretaker, following Pardew's dismissal. That dismissal followed a weak start to the season and much was claimed by many that the pre-season preparation had not been good, that players were not fit and that Pardew's heart wasn't really in it. Looking back, Lambert didn't seem to be right and has only recently shown glimmers of his old self within the past month or two. Whether the confidence of the team had been affected by Pardew's dismissal is also a possible factor. Barnard was also suspended, another player who can make a difference and who is now in devastating form. Chamberlain played, but was at that time still a bit raw, as was Martin. Reading the match report again, we also had the Puncheon that fired shots into row Z. In that game, Connolly was up front. So Lambert and Barnard firing on all cylinders is a far more potent attack, Jaidi with Fonte a better defence. OK, Schneiderlin had played and is missed perhaps, but the midfield we have now is doing well, with Dickson looking good out wide and Lallana possibly returning if needed. And what about the team spirit now under Adkins? Quite a different kettle of fish to that under Wilkins post Pardew, I'd say. Tactical awareness? Also better with Adkins IMO. Also, the team can clearly see the prospect of promotion as a reality if they keep their concentration going for a little while longer. So overall, there are many reasons why the match tomorrow should be quite different to that earlier in the season. Despite all this, we'll probably lose because that is what Saints do. Good summary - more than a few things have changed since that game but most of all - belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Lets not build Rochdale up as world beaters, they are far from it. Their home record is incosistant to say the least. If we perform to the standard we all know we can, we'll be fine tomorrow night. Still doesn't stop me sh*tting myself about it though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoozonside10 Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 At the end of the day, if we lose we will still be second with a game in hand... Not that I expect us to lose but let's not get carried away if the worst happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1976.4.38 Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 i know it feels strange to think we can win because for years saints have always blown it when they just needed that little bit more.well under na i think we have it,i genuinely dont see us losing a match now.could be a draw tomorrow and thats no problem but i believe we will win,coys,wifm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wightman35 Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 (edited) i know it feels strange to think we can win because for years saints have always blown it when they just needed that little bit more.well under na i think we have it,i genuinely dont see us losing a match now.could be a draw tomorrow and thats no problem but i believe we will win,coys,wifm I share your optimism. This is surely our year! May the force be with us.( Not the fuzz, silly me) Edited 11 April, 2011 by wightman35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 This is a tough game, as everyone says, but i think we will get a result - maybe a draw but hopefully a win. Come on Saints we're all in this together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint dyer Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Apparently chappers has his foot in a protective boot and hasn't travelled. Hammond and Stevens if fit? Could butters do a job for us in CM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 If we get stuck into Gary Jones and don't allow him to run the midfield as he did at SMS we will win. If we give him the room to play it his way he will pick us apart, which will make it much more difficult. Play Aaron Martin as an extra defender and man mark him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannysfc Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Am looking forward to this even if I am going by coach there and back and getting back at some ridiculous time as it'l be worth it if we win but if not then a draw will do me aswell as we'l still be in front of Huddersfield n Peterboro even with a game in hand but we will see! Will also be a ground to tick off too! Am going for 2-1 Saints with Lambert n Barnard/Fonte for Saints or any win would do Tbh! Will see most of you on here there tomorrow night too then! COYR !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 If we get stuck into Gary Jones and don't allow him to run the midfield as he did at SMS we will win. If we give him the room to play it his way he will pick us apart, which will make it much more difficult. Play Aaron Martin as an extra defender and man mark him. No. That means we are allowing Rochdale to determine our tactics. That is a negative move and sets a negative tone. Let them worry about us, not the other way around. This is a very different Saints sides to the shambles that played Rochdale at SMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Apparently chappers has his foot in a protective boot and hasn't travelled. Hammond and Stevens if fit? Could butters do a job for us in CM? Hmm Then I would think if Stephens is fit not an issue, if he is not then I would expect NA to go with Gobern or possibly IF Lallana is fit then he could actually play right side with Guly in the Diamond leaving Dickson out on the left Or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Am looking forward to this even if I am going by coach there and back and getting back at some ridiculous time as it'l be worth it if we win but if not then a draw will do me aswell as we'l still be in front of Huddersfield n Peterboro even with a game in hand but we will see! Will also be a ground to tick off too! Am going for 2-1 Saints with Lambert n Barnard/Fonte for Saints or any win would do Tbh! Will see most of you on here there tomorrow night too then! COYR !! Can't disagree with any of that Danny. I've tried but simply can't. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannysfc Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Can't disagree with any of that Danny. I've tried but simply can't. :-) Well sorry trousers Mate but this is how I write so don't slag me off as I don't slag you off with what you do Tbh if you can do that as that would be Good Mate ! Thanks! COYR !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 a draw would not be a bad result...... Hearing that kind of statement about a team that spent the last 41 (forty one) years in Division 4/league 2 is a welcome reminder that we need to get out of this damn league as soon as bloomin' possible! (said Trousers, arrogantly) :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Well sorry trousers Mate but this is how I write so don't slag me off as I don't slag you off with what you do Tbh if you can do that as that would be Good Mate ! Thanks! COYR !! Sorry Danny...just my slightly hit-and-miss sense of humour. I slag myself off far more than anyone else tbf :-) Have a good trip mate :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannysfc Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Sorry Danny...just my slightly hit-and-miss sense of humour. I slag myself off far more than anyone else tbf :-) Have a good trip mate :-) OK it's cool and fair enough Mate n I'm sure I will too Mate Fingers Crossed... lol ! COYR !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 Apparently chappers has his foot in a protective boot and hasn't travelled. Hammond and Stevens if fit? Could butters do a job for us in CM? Just like you said Fonte was injured for Saturday? Adkins said on Saints Player that everyone would travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint dyer Posted 11 April, 2011 Share Posted 11 April, 2011 A friend who works at the training ground text me earlier. I'm sure we will be fine whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefunkygibbons Posted 12 April, 2011 Share Posted 12 April, 2011 WE should be aiming to beat all comers, home or away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 12 April, 2011 Share Posted 12 April, 2011 I'm going to miss those games in hand when there gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royce2uk Posted 12 April, 2011 Share Posted 12 April, 2011 Last call for anyone going from Bristol or the surrounding are who want to share lifts (and expense!) PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDogMatt Posted 12 April, 2011 Share Posted 12 April, 2011 Really think I should be going but left it late Anyone driving up and back from London (East) with space? Happy to share costs; otherwise is SaintsPlayer for me Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPY Posted 12 April, 2011 Share Posted 12 April, 2011 Rochdale 2 Saints 1 We will still go up, don't worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 April, 2011 Share Posted 12 April, 2011 Heading off to Berlin. Here's hoping the hotel lounge has some dodgy Greek satellite TV rather than showing that Champions League nonsense.... Yes, I know...Bob Hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 12 April, 2011 Share Posted 12 April, 2011 TEAM NEWS (Rochdale) Rochdale boss Keith Hill must decide whether to shuffle his pack as his side look to beat Southampton to climb into the League One play-off zone. Hill has named the same team five games running but Colchester ended Dale's six-match unbeaten run on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellbert Posted 12 April, 2011 Share Posted 12 April, 2011 Apparently chappers has his foot in a protective boot and hasn't travelled. Hammond and Stevens if fit? Could butters do a job for us in CM? I have noticed this when he tries to make a pass!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 12 April, 2011 Share Posted 12 April, 2011 This will be a tough game without a doubt, but I think some people are making it sound like we will be lucky to get a point. We should be able to go to places like Rochdale and win and I think we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 12 April, 2011 Share Posted 12 April, 2011 Never thought id say it but i maintain a draw would be a good result asll things considered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusaldo Posted 12 April, 2011 Share Posted 12 April, 2011 I'm going for a Saints win. Barnard to continue his goal scoring form. Wish I could make it tonight but cant get the time off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 12 April, 2011 Share Posted 12 April, 2011 For a long time this season I thought we were a bit glass jawed but finally we look like we mean business. Not sure about the scoreline but I predict another determined 3 point performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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