NickG Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 At the moment max points Saints 95 Huddersfield 91 Peterborough 88 Huddersfield win makes it very hard for Peterborough, needing pretty much max points - so two horse race. Max 85. Think my preferred would be Peterborough win, putting both at 88 max meaning we can drop 7 points and still be guaranteed.
Ken Tone Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 At the moment max points Saints 95 Huddersfield 91 Peterborough 88 Huddersfield win makes it very hard for Peterborough, needing pretty much max points - so two horse race. Max 85. Think my preferred would be Peterborough win, putting both at 88 max meaning we can drop 7 points and still be guaranteed. A draw for me. Huddersfield have a harder run in than Posh. If we win at Orient we go above Huddersfield anyway, with 2 games in hand, if they draw, and it would give us a better safety margin over Posh. But second best is a Posh win.
Alain Perrin Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 Agreed. All results are irrelevant unless we keep winning, therefore a Peterborough win is probably the best result.
doddisalegend Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 My prefered result would be a draw, followed by a mass brawl resulting in 22 red cards and 3 match suspensions all round plus a hefty 10 pt deduction to both teams for bring the game into disrepute. Failing that i'll take a posh win please.
LGTL Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 I'd take anything other then a Huddersfield win, although i've a feeling that's what it'll be.
NickG Posted 8 April, 2011 Author Posted 8 April, 2011 obvious but great thing is, with it so tight, most top teams keeping winning most games, no result there is that bad
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 In order of preference: 1) Game abandoned - 3 point deduction for both teams 2) Draw 3) Posh Win 4) Huddersfield Win
saintstr1 Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 A draw is best for us but I have a strong feeling Huddersfield will win so we Have to do the business at Orient.
thesaint sfc Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 In order of preference: 1) Game abandoned - 3 point deduction for both teams 2) Draw 3) Posh Win 4) Huddersfield Win This.
saintrich Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 I think hudds will win and knock pboro out the race.
Alain Perrin Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 I'd prefer a Peterborough win. Whilst I agree that Huddersfield have a harder run in, the quicker their 19 game unbeaten run comes to an end the better. Hopefully then the wheels come off and it's easy street to the Championship! (can only hope )
NickG Posted 8 April, 2011 Author Posted 8 April, 2011 playing around with possible optimistic outcomes win our next two away games we will be on 77 points with 6 games left. 3 home, 3 away. If we are confident in our home performances, (which we should be with current home form playing 3 teams in bottom half and trying to look like automatic promotion side) we should get 9 points from home games. That would give us 86 points - without anything from last 3 away games. If Peterborough lose or draw tomorrow they can't match that total. Huddersfield, with our better goal difference would only be able to drop 4 points. Two wins over the next fews days will really take pressure off!
NickG Posted 8 April, 2011 Author Posted 8 April, 2011 I sound like someone desperate to convince myself!
Window Cleaner Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 It really doesn't matter any more, we will obtain the 15 points we need for automatic promotion anyway. What the others do is of little import.
hypochondriac Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 I sound like someone desperate to convince myself! Stop looking at facts every two seconds and just hope for saints wins. You will enjoy it a lot more.
Ken Tone Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 Lovely juxtaposition of headlines on the BBC about Posh Keeper Day set for Peterborough Lay off Lewis, says boss Ferguso Ferguson complains about fans having a go at 'Calamity' Lewis one day, then signs a new keeper the next. Of course the new bloke can't play till next season, so the man management psychology is even better. In effect he is saying "Lewis is not crap (but I've just signed a replacement). Lewis will play for the rest of the season in our vital games" Bet he learnt that one from his Dad.
thefunkygibbons Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 Saints win for me And I can live with any result from their (although a draw would be nbest on balance)
The9 Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 At the moment max points Saints 95 Huddersfield 91 Peterborough 88 Huddersfield win makes it very hard for Peterborough, needing pretty much max points - so two horse race. Max 85. Think my preferred would be Peterborough win, putting both at 88 max meaning we can drop 7 points and still be guaranteed. Preferably a draw, but a Posh win if someone has to just because they'd only get to where Huddersfield are by doing that. Though if Huddersfield finish second they'll deserve it with their run-in... A Posh/Hudd draw leaves us at WORST (even if we lose ) 3 points behind Hudd with 2 games in hand and ahead of Peterborough on GD with 2 games in hand, so it's by far the best result for us at this time. By the end of the season it could turn out to have been the worst result, but not at the moment.
hamster Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 Peterborough lose and they are effectively out of it (including race for 3rd imo). Based on that I'd prefer a terriers win as I don't fancy bournemouth's chances against Posh in the play offs and I want them to come up with us. Easy 6 points! All being well Bompey fans will have no choice but to cheer our upcoming wins which will be nice for them.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 I cannot see huddersfield winning this one. Well I can't see them not winning it! Stating the obvious but if Saints don't win our game then no result will be much good for us.
pedg Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 Peterborough win for me. Yes if we keep on winning it will be irrelevant but its unlikely we will win all the remaining games this season it does become relevant. Even if we, heaven forbid, lose tomorrow I think a Peterborough win gives us more chance in the long run of finishing 2nd.
Giordano Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 Head says draw is best as both teams drop two points each which in theory we have the chance of profiting from in one of the games in hand we have (were we to win that game in hand that is). Given the respective run-ins it I fear P more than H so P NOt collecting three points is hepful...so overall a draw.( but i wanted to say P win!)
Appy Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 2-2 draw. Boyd, Rhodes, Clarke and Boyd sent off for a mass brawl.
Nick65 Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 Based on the fact it's impossible to predict what's going to happen afterwards, I'd definitely go for a draw - it means our rivals get just 2 points instead of 3. I notice Brighton have got 3 games before they play us - if they win them all, it means they're mathematically certain of promotion. But, if we can get at least 2 wins and a draw from our next 3 games, they're not mathematically certain of being champions going into the game with us - but a point against us would do it for them. Maybe they'd be happy to play for a draw? - would certainly be OK with me.
Jones91 Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 Has to be a draw, which takes 4 points off our rivals. A posh win may make the table look good tomorrow, but then you'd be wishing they had 2 less points come May.
The9 Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 Based on the fact it's impossible to predict what's going to happen afterwards, I'd definitely go for a draw - it means our rivals get just 2 points instead of 3. I notice Brighton have got 3 games before they play us - if they win them all, it means they're mathematically certain of promotion. But, if we can get at least 2 wins and a draw from our next 3 games, they're not mathematically certain of being champions going into the game with us - but a point against us would do it for them. Maybe they'd be happy to play for a draw? - would certainly be OK with me. Funnily enough I was working this out the other day as well. I'm happy enough with this scenario too, because it's only relevant if we win all of our matches as well - if they win the next 3 we have to win our next 3 or they're ALREADY champions when we play them !
West End Saint Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 0 0 draw 3 players from each team sent off 2 or 3 niggly injuries (nothing to serious just enough to keep key players out for a month) We win 3 1 at Orient & all is well in my world
Lord Duckhunter Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 Draw for me, it would keep Huddersfield's unbeaten run going to something like 20 games. There is no way they'll go 26 games unbeaten(they are just not that good), so they'll have to lose another one. Allowing for my poor maths I make that 86 points for them if they win the remaining 4. Meaning we need to win 5 of our 8 to finish above them.Forget about PBoro, if they draw tomorrow, they'll need to win all 5 left to even reach 86. If Huddersfield draw tomorrow and then win their remaining 5 games they'll deserve promtion, they'll be unbeaten in 2011. (not going to happen). My gut feeling is 86 points will be enough, unless Town win tomorrow.
Cabrone Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 People are saying that Huddersfield have a tough run in but do they? They have: Posh (h) - pretty ropey on the road. Charlton (a) - in mid table mediocrity with nothing to play for. MK Dons (a) - genuinely tough game. Daggers (h) - can only see 3 points from this one Brighton (a) - probably already up and with little left to play. Brentford (h) - mid table, little to play for. I'm not convinced that Huddersfield's run in is a difficult as many on here think so I'd favour a draw followed by a Posh win.
Doctoroncall Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 If Town win, they still have MK Dons and Brighton away. So based on the two sets of fixtures, Town have the hardest so a win for them may not be as bad as we think. Here are the two set of fixtures, apart from this w/e the 22nd April(*) games will be big games: Peterborough have: Plymouth (h) Leyton Orient (a) * Yeovil (h) Rochdale (a) D&R (h) Huddersfield have: Charlton (a) MK Dons (a) * D&R (h) Brighton (a) Brentford (h)
adysaint Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 A draw would be ideal for me. 0-0 Is 14/1 on bet365 I've stuck £20 on. Yes you'd be a brave man. Considering some of Posh's mad results this season. But they havn't had a 0-0 draw ALL SEASON... Law of averages an all that...
Thedelldays Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 look at peterbros fixtures...after the huddersfield game, they are easily capable of winning the rest......peterbro winning is not good IMO
krissyboy31 Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 A draw would be ideal for me. 0-0 Can't see any game involving Posh being nil all, more like 5-5 imo.
Doctoroncall Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 Is 14/1 on bet365 I've stuck £20 on. Yes you'd be a brave man. Considering some of Posh's mad results this season. But they havn't had a 0-0 draw ALL SEASON... Law of averages an all that... But they are independent events in that respect. This game is important for them, if they win it allows them to be ahead of Huddersfield in second with only us that can take that away if we get enough points from our two games in hand. So it could be a cagey affair with the focus on not making a mistake rather than looking for goals.
The9 Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 People are saying that Huddersfield have a tough run in but do they? They have: Posh (h) - pretty ropey on the road. Charlton (a) - in mid table mediocrity with nothing to play for. MK Dons (a) - genuinely tough game. Daggers (h) - can only see 3 points from this one Brighton (a) - probably already up and with little left to play. Brentford (h) - mid table, little to play for. I'm not convinced that Huddersfield's run in is a difficult as many on here think so I'd favour a draw followed by a Posh win. Realistically at this stage of the season you have to think that the top side, two play-off rivals, the team in the relegation spots with the best form, one of the bigger mid-tablers with decent form and one team we also have to play, is about as difficult as it's going to get.
Colinjb Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 A bone crunching injury ridden 0-0 please. Didn't enjoy typing that but it's time to throw pleasantries out of the window. There's no room for chance until we've crossed the finish line.
benjii Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 Well I can't see them not winning it! Stating the obvious but if Saints don't win our game then no result will be much good for us. That's not obvious. It's obviously complete bullocks. A draw is a good result regardless of our match. In fact I would settle now for both being draws.
Turkish Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 1-1 FACT, we will be second with 2 games in hand this time tomorrow.
The9 Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 That's not obvious. It's obviously complete bullocks. A draw is a good result regardless of our match. In fact I would settle now for both being draws. Agreed, those two drawing is an excellent result even if we completely ar5e it up at Orient. Still leaves us within 3 points of both with games in hand. FWIW I'm still a bit worried about Hammond's 9 yellows and potential 2 match suspension...
benjii Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 If we win our home games and beat Brentford and Plymouth we will almost certainly go up unless Huddersfield win on Sat. Even if they do win a few "bonus points" from the other three away games should see us fine and they will probably not win every game anyway. A win and a defeat from the next two would be perfectly fine. Two draws would be acceptable, although would put more pressure on the next home game.
TopGun Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 (edited) According to the FL site Huddersfield are unbeaten for 19 games. It might be a mistake but worrying if true. In fact just checked it and I make it 20 games. Not lost since we beat them 4-1. On that basis alone I'm voting for a Posh win as best result. Edited 8 April, 2011 by TopGun
Colinjb Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 According to the FL site Huddersfield are unbeaten for 19 games. It might be a mistake but worrying if true. A lot of draws, but true. A club record. Time for the run to end...... surely.
Dark Munster Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 My prefered result would be a draw, followed by a mass brawl resulting in 22 red cards and 3 match suspensions all round plus a hefty 10 pt deduction to both teams for bring the game into disrepute. Failing that i'll take a posh win please. Don't forget an extra 3 point deduction for each team for fielding ineligible players.
bender Posted 8 April, 2011 Posted 8 April, 2011 We are playing on Tuesday and neither of them are. So for me I think : We will get 4 points from Orient and Rochdale and 3 next weekend. Hudders will take 3 by beating Posh but losing away next weekend. Posh will lose tomorrow but win next weekend. Therefore by 5pm a week tomorrow, we'll have 7 extra points and those two only 3. Result = 2 points ahead of Hudders, 5 ahead of Posh and with a game in hand. And the run in looks good for us in comparison to Hudderfield. Simples.
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