Saint Charlie Posted 6 April, 2011 Posted 6 April, 2011 I think the cut off point for getting 10 yellows and a two match ban is on Sunday. Do any of our players have 9 yellows? As far as I understand anyone with 8 or fewer can't be banned for accumulating more than 10 this season now. I know Hammond, Fonte and Chaplow all have a fair few.
scott_saints Posted 6 April, 2011 Posted 6 April, 2011 Hammond's on 9 I think. Which would explain the slight lack of "getting stuck in" last night.
toofarnorth Posted 6 April, 2011 Posted 6 April, 2011 Hopefully Hammond can get through Saturday ok. Really would be a bit screwed in midfield without him too.
Ashley Grute Posted 6 April, 2011 Posted 6 April, 2011 Just checked official Saints website and it has Hammond, Fonte and Chaplow all on 7 yellows, updated on 2/4/11?!
Saint_John Posted 6 April, 2011 Posted 6 April, 2011 The BBC has :- Dean on 9 bookings :- Cherrys (30 mins); Bolton (89); Swindon (90+5); Wed (40); Udders (39); Brentford (51); Exeter (89); Hartlepool (71) and MK (90+2) Chaps on 7 Cherrys (90); P/Boro (71); Udders (78 ) P/Boro (13); Carlisle (32); Walsall (45+3) and Yeovil (37) Jose on 7 B Rov (65); Swindon (69); Udders (90+10); Carlisle (38 ); Cheltonham (84); Hartlepool (82); and MK (87) Question If Dean gets booked on Saturday is it best for him (when we are winning) to get a second yellow in the 89/90 min to get sent off (one match ban) ??
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 6 April, 2011 Posted 6 April, 2011 Do cup games count towards the total then? I thought it was only league.
Deano6 Posted 6 April, 2011 Posted 6 April, 2011 Typical Saints, conceding yellows in the last 10 mins of games as usual
Golden Balls Posted 6 April, 2011 Posted 6 April, 2011 Question If Dean gets booked on Saturday is it best for him (when we are winning) to get a second yellow in the 89/90 min to get sent off (one match ban) ?? Surely they cant ban him for 3 matches for a 2nd bookable offence? there again, thats a hell of a loophole!
beatlesaint Posted 6 April, 2011 Posted 6 April, 2011 Surely they cant ban him for 3 matches for a 2nd bookable offence? there again, thats a hell of a loophole! Its not a loophole, he's got that wrong. He would be banned for a sending off plus the fact it took him over 10 cautions would come into the equation as well.
The9 Posted 6 April, 2011 Posted 6 April, 2011 It's definitely only Hammond at risk, I've been monitoring this for about a month, having pointed out that moving the Plymouth game was beneficial for this reason. Chaplow might well argue that having to mind his tackling to avoid yellows was affecting his natural game... Even more gutting that Stephens got carted off when he could have played on Saturday to avoid it altogether. And if he got two yellows he would indeed get BOTH bans.
Whitey Grandad Posted 6 April, 2011 Posted 6 April, 2011 Its not a loophole, he's got that wrong. He would be banned for a sending off plus the fact it took him over 10 cautions would come into the equation as well. Yes, it's one game for two yellows and then two games for the ten bookings, and a stern letter warning him as to his future conduct.
toofarnorth Posted 7 April, 2011 Posted 7 April, 2011 According to the saints site he's only got 7. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/Suspensions/0,,10280,00.html
Saint Pete Posted 7 April, 2011 Posted 7 April, 2011 Football League site says he's on 7 too, so looks like Hammond's OK? Maybe the difference is Cup games?
Whitey Grandad Posted 7 April, 2011 Posted 7 April, 2011 Football League site says he's on 7 too, so looks like Hammond's OK? Maybe the difference is Cup games? Cup games are included.
The9 Posted 7 April, 2011 Posted 7 April, 2011 As we established a few weeks ago on here, the FL site, Soccerbase and the Saints OS all report different counts of bookings. For instance, looking at all three of them, there are only 4 bookings down to Hammond before the Huddersfield match... which he missed due to suspension for having 5 bookings. Another example is that the OS lists Barnard as being both booked and then sent off in that game where the ref accidentally got the yellow out before his red, but doesn't mention a different Saints player getting a booking in that game (can't recall who). Bizarrely, there was a Yeovil fan site which seemed to be the most accurate. AND it included the League Cup and FA Cup games which are missing from the FL stats (Hammond was booked against Bolton, for instance). Hammond is definitely on 9, the 9th being for kicking the ball away after a Fonte foul against MK Dons, which the OS has down to Fonte, the match report claiming Hammond made the foul with Fonte kicking the ball away, when it was the other way around, and Hammond was the one booked.
toofarnorth Posted 7 April, 2011 Posted 7 April, 2011 As we established a few weeks ago on here, the FL site, Soccerbase and the Saints OS all report different counts of bookings. For instance, looking at all three of them, there are only 4 bookings down to Hammond before the Huddersfield match... which he missed due to suspension for having 5 bookings. Another example is that the OS lists Barnard as being both booked and then sent off in that game where the ref accidentally got the yellow out before his red, but doesn't mention a different Saints player getting a booking in that game (can't recall who). Bizarrely, there was a Yeovil fan site which seemed to be the most accurate. AND it included the League Cup and FA Cup games which are missing from the FL stats (Hammond was booked against Bolton, for instance). Hammond is definitely on 9, the 9th being for kicking the ball away after a Fonte foul against MK Dons, which the OS has down to Fonte, the match report claiming Hammond made the foul with Fonte kicking the ball away, when it was the other way around, and Hammond was the one booked. If that is the case then it would seem stupid to risk Stephens on Saturday, as if Hammond gets booked he'll definitely be needed.
The9 Posted 7 April, 2011 Posted 7 April, 2011 If that is the case then it would seem stupid to risk Stephens on Saturday, as if Hammond gets booked he'll definitely be needed. But not picking Hammond for one match guarantees that Stephens won't be guaranteed to be required for two matches (assuming Chaplow manages 90 and Hammond is booked). I wouldn't start with Stephens and Hammond, let's put it that way. But worst case scenario is we start with Chaplow and Stephens - who then breaks down - and then Hammond comes on as a sub and gets booked / sent off.
benjii Posted 7 April, 2011 Posted 7 April, 2011 As we established a few weeks ago on here, the FL site, Soccerbase and the Saints OS all report different counts of bookings. For instance, looking at all three of them, there are only 4 bookings down to Hammond before the Huddersfield match... which he missed due to suspension for having 5 bookings. Another example is that the OS lists Barnard as being both booked and then sent off in that game where the ref accidentally got the yellow out before his red, but doesn't mention a different Saints player getting a booking in that game (can't recall who). Bizarrely, there was a Yeovil fan site which seemed to be the most accurate. AND it included the League Cup and FA Cup games which are missing from the FL stats (Hammond was booked against Bolton, for instance). Hammond is definitely on 9, the 9th being for kicking the ball away after a Fonte foul against MK Dons, which the OS has down to Fonte, the match report claiming Hammond made the foul with Fonte kicking the ball away, when it was the other way around, and Hammond was the one booked. I watched the highlights and I'm pretty sure Hammond committed the challenge and Fonte booted it away. I think Hammond may have been booked for something else though.
The9 Posted 7 April, 2011 Posted 7 April, 2011 I watched the highlights and I'm pretty sure Hammond committed the challenge and Fonte booted it away. I think Hammond may have been booked for something else though. Interesting given that the 3 people I spoke to about it saw exactly what I saw and one of them saw the OS report and drew it to my attention. We were all a bit p1ssed though.
Deano6 Posted 7 April, 2011 Posted 7 April, 2011 It was definitely Forte who kicked the ball away, and Hammill committed the original offense.
benjii Posted 7 April, 2011 Posted 7 April, 2011 It was definitely Forte who kicked the ball away, and Hammill committed the original offense.
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