Why did Bradley Wright Phillips get a standing ovation FFS?

[Turkish]

the only one i can think of Turkish is Fulham who sing

 

Al Fayed oooohhhh

Al Fayed ooooohhh

he wants to be a Brit

and QPR are shLt

 

but then Fulham's support is dreadful with a complete lack of terrace culture and a high percentage of "new" fans

 

I wonder how they are feeling now Fayed has told them to go and support Chelsea if they don't like the Michael Jackson statue!!

Cortese is a control freak, i wouldn't put it past him naming a stand after himself if we get promoted.

 

I cracked up seeing all those idiotic Fulham fans stood around applauding the statue unveiling and saying Al Fayed can do what he likes, reminds me of some of the posters on here. Al Fayed comment that "if idiot fans dont understand the gift he gave to the world then can go to hell" was hilarious. He may be mental but he is funny as f*ck!

 

I can imagine that SMS will be a similar sight when the newly named Nicola Cortese Stand in unveiled in July!

[Turkish]

Disapointed this thread should even have been opened, but Turkish set the tone with asterisked and initialised obscenities. BWP did as well for Saints as his ability allowed, which is about as much as can be asked of any player. He left under a cloud but that is no reason other than to show appreciation for someone who used to play for the club and who tried as best he could to help the team win its games.

 

Why post on it then?

[The Cat]

I didn't clap BWP, but then I rarely clapped him when he played for us so saw no need to do it last night.

 

The Cortese song is dire. He doesn't hate Pompey so the song is redundant in it's meaning. If people want to sing about him then at least come up with something that makes sense.

[September Saint]

People seem to have short memories. Remember when BWP was our Supersub, in the style of Forte?

OK he did some stupid things off-field but most of us did when we were young (some years ago, in my case)

As the second highest L1 scorer he deserves some respect. Let us not make booing ex-players a reflex action, but only if they deserve it. Get off the guys back!

[Sour Mash]

I didn't clap BWP, but then I rarely clapped him when he played for us so saw no need to do it last night.

 

The Cortese song is dire. He doesn't hate Pompey so the song is redundant in it's meaning. If people want to sing about him then at least come up with something that makes sense.

 

He doesn't come from Italy either.

[shurlock]

 

I can imagine that SMS will be a similar sight when the newly named Nicola Cortese Stand in unveiled in July!

 

oh dear- have you worked out that one reason why people have some time for cortese is precisely because he's so unlike that? what has he done that is self-publicising or self-aggrandising? He's kept his mouth shut and let business take care of business. If anything, the usual suspects want him to be MORE public. The only thing with cortese is that he's poor at dealing with dissent or challenges to him but that's a totally different debate.

[Turkish]

oh dear- have you worked out that one reason why people have some time for cortese is precisely because he's so unlike that? what has he done that is self-publicising or self-aggrandising? He's kept his mouth shut and let business take care of business. If anything, the usual suspects want him to be MORE public. The only thing with cortese is that he's poor at dealing with dissent or challenges to him but that's a totally different debate.

 

Why dont you read the thread properly before commenting and involving yourself in parts of the discussion you have not been involved in. And also not just quoting parts of the comment which suit you.

[Lighthouse]

:lol:

 

Thats right, football matches aren't won on the pitch anymore, they're won in the directors box. Mental.

 

I see no one has managed to name any other club that sings songs about their chairman in a postive way.

 

So, you don't think how the club is run is in any way important then? Getting relegated in 2005 with pretty much the same squad that got to the cup final 2 years before was completely down to Killer's injury? Saints definitely didn't go into aministration in 2009 because of terrible mismanagement in the boardroom?

 

The players on the pitch are putting the ball in the net, playing the through balls and defending bravely, traditionally we as "supporters" are there to cheer them on.

 

Cortese is sat on a padded seat picking up a nice amount of cash and hasn't shown me any reason whatsoever why I should give him any recognition, he has made some good decisions but also some rubbish ones, verging on the bizarre earlier this season. I also think his approach to season ticket holders leaves a lot to be desired, it is clear to me they are intent on treating the fans as cash cows and will milk as much money from us as possible, the whole "we are a rich club we don't need a sponsor" was a load of b0llocks

 

So we should only applaud people who run around a lot and jump around in front of the fans when they score a goal? What about Adkins, he just stands there in the technical area shouting, surely he doesn't deserve any recognition for that. As for Cortese pocketing a nice amount of cash... I suppose Lambert signed for us because he quite likes the Chinese restaurants in Millbrook?

 

As for Cortese wanting to make money from the fans... No sh*t! He's the chairman of a business who has to answers to the owners when it comes to the financial success of the company. I agree the booking fee is a bit of a pain in the tits, but I've bought tickets for loads of stuff when there has been an extra fee of some description. It's hardly groundbreaking stuff.

[Wes Tender]

Why dont you read the thread properly before commenting and involving yourself in parts of the discussion you have not been involved in. And also not just quoting parts of the comment which suit you.

 

Well, I've read the whole thread through and see nothing wrong with Shurlock's comment. It seems to me that there have been some ignorant remarks made by some who reckon that Cortese is an egotistical self-publicist, which is rubbish and Shurlock said so. What grounds do you have for making this absurd comment that Cortese will have a stand named after him this Summer?

 

Forgive me, Turkish for entering the discussion that I have not previously been involved in. I didn't realise that permission needed to be obtained first.

[Turkish]

So, you don't think how the club is run is in any way important then? Getting relegated in 2005 with pretty much the same squad that got to the cup final 2 years before was completely down to Killer's injury? Saints definitely didn't go into aministration in 2009 because of terrible mismanagement in the boardroom?

 

 

 

So we should only applaud people who run around a lot and jump around in front of the fans when they score a goal? What about Adkins, he just stands there in the technical area shouting, surely he doesn't deserve any recognition for that. As for Cortese pocketing a nice amount of cash... I suppose Lambert signed for us because he quite likes the Chinese restaurants in Millbrook?

 

As for Cortese wanting to make money from the fans... No sh*t! He's the chairman of a business who has to answers to the owners when it comes to the financial success of the company. I agree the booking fee is a bit of a pain in the tits, but I've bought tickets for loads of stuff when there has been an extra fee of some description. It's hardly groundbreaking stuff.

 

It wasn't though was it. Of the cup final squad Bridge, left, Beattie left half way through, Telfer, Fernandes featured little Dodd was injured and loaned out and Oakley and Svenson had long term injuries and missed a lot of the season, so i think you'll find it was a very different squad which got relegated. Thanks for showing up your lack of knowledge though.

 

In answer to your other question, of course it's important that the club is well run, but the team live and die by it's success on the pitch, it effects every other area of the football club, the problem a lot of egotistical modern chairman have is they think they are the most important man in the club, when it is in fact the manager in the dugout.

Edited 6 April, 2011 by Turkish

[Whitey Grandad]

There as a generous round of applause but no standing ovation. That was reserved for the Mighty Guly.

[Lighthouse]

It wasn't though was it. Of the cup final squad Bridge, Dodd, Telfer, Fernandes had gone, Beattie left half way through and Oakley and Svenson had long term injuries and missed a lot of the season, so i think you'll find it was a very different squad which got relegated. Thanks for showing up your lack of knowledge though.

 

In answer to your other question, of course it's important that the club is well run, but the team live and die by it's success on the pitch, it effects every other area of the football club, the problem a lot of egotistical modern chairman have is they think they are the most important man in the club, when it is in fact the manager in the dugout.

 

Oh what fabulous irony.

 

In response to your second paragraph, I agree the manager is the most important man at the club when it comes to the performance on the pitch. But who hires and fires managers? Who sanctions the million pounds of transfer fees and wages when a manager wants to sign a player? Who's responsible for getting the best price when a big club comes knocking for our best players?

Edited 6 April, 2011 by Lighthouse

[Turkish]

Well, I've read the whole thread through and see nothing wrong with Shurlock's comment. It seems to me that there have been some ignorant remarks made by some who reckon that Cortese is an egotistical self-publicist, which is rubbish and Shurlock said so. What grounds do you have for making this absurd comment that Cortese will have a stand named after him this Summer?

 

Forgive me, Turkish for entering the discussion that I have not previously been involved in. I didn't realise that permission needed to be obtained first.

 

Because everything written on every post is absolutely serious and has to be backed up with evidence to support it, FFS. But then that is what happens when people butt into a conversation they haven't been involved.

[Jez]

We have some fans who sing a song in honour of Cortese so i'm not surprised at all at this - we have some right dimebars following us.

 

Pro Cortese argument

 

The bloke has brought us to the verge of promotion, you ungrateful twonk.

 

Anti Cortese argument

 

And the same bloke who brought in the booking fee, but that wouldn't affect you.

 

Yeah, we've nearly got promotion but I will never forgive him for putting on a booking fee FFS!!

[Turkish]

Oh what fabulous irony.

 

I;ve amended actually. Dodd was out on loan most of that season so hadn't actually gone and was injured, Telfer and Fernandes featured little that season so weren't first team players, so yes it was a very different squad than the cup final side. Bloated with average or ageing players rather than a smaller squad of decent ones.

[Wes Tender]

In answer to your other question, of course it's important that the club is well run, but the team live and die by it's success on the pitch, it effects every other area of the football club, the problem a lot of egotistical modern chairman have is they think they are the most important man in the club, when it is in fact the manager in the dugout.

 

The financing of the club is obviously a very important factor in the success of a club. Presumably when you're talking about egotistical Chairmen, you're thinking about the sort of Arthur Daley type cowboys like Mitchell at Bournemouth, rather than ours. Yes, the team lives and dies by its success on the pitch, but if the club is well run by a wealthy and savvy Chairman/Chief Executive, then the decent manager and the decent players are affordable. The manager rightly gets the plaudits, but the Chairman/Chief Executive who has facilitated the hiring of the manager and players can bask in the reflected glory of their success. Nothing wrong with that, surely?

[VectisSaint]

At the end of the day Cortese is just a business man trying to make money out of southampton football club, and you and I as fans. He is not messiah, he is not a benefactor putting in his own cash, he is an employee of the club.

 

as Sour Mash says it is frankly ridiculous to sing about him.

 

support / songs away from home has been much better than home games recently.

Pathetic rubbish. It is well understood that it was Cortese's idea to buy Saints, not Markus', but his friend markus put up the money. If as you say Cortese is an employee he is not in it to make money for himself. What he is actually doing is making money for Southampton Football Club so that we never again get in the feckin mess that the ruddy-faced **** before got us into. If the so-called Cortest tax wasn't in place, then the ticket prices would be higher, simple. At least this way we know what a proportion of the money goes on, its called transparency. As for singing about him, quite frankly most songs are cringeworthy, but if people want to show their support for the guy that actually came in and saved us from the abyss then thats their choice. If you don't like it don't join in, and be a grumpy git like me.

[doddisalegend]

So we should all sit in silence until promotion from the Championship is confirmed?

 

 

 

Why sing songs for Adkins, Lambert or Lallana then? Everyone who is employed at SFC is there primarily for a job. If we stopped paying them, they'd all bugger off eventually. Cortese may never put a 30 yard free kick in the top corner, but his role is more crucial than any of the players. He also seems to be a quietly passionate man in the rare interviews he does give. Don't see why people shouldn't sing songs for him.As for the original post, I wouldn't have clapped BWP if I'd been there. Wouldn't boo him either, but when he was here I remember him looking crap and lazy in most games he played.

 

With that reasoning we should have songs about Gladys the women who clean the chapel bogs, she may have not scored many 30yard screamers but she has an important job to fufil. Or Bob the bloke who sells you your half time pie and pint thats a really important job. What about the physio, chief scout or groundsman? all important in their own way.

 

Football fans sing about players thats the way it's always been and always should be. Thats not meant to take away what NC has achieved (with Markus's money) but it a simple fact that singing about your chairman (or any other non playing member of staff other than the manager) makes us look a bit sad.

[Wes Tender]

Because everything written on every post is absolutely serious and has to be backed up with evidence to support it, FFS. But then that is what happens when people butt into a conversation they haven't been involved.

 

So where is your evidence that there is any likelihood of a stand being named after Cortese "because he is a control freak"?

[Turkish]

Oh what fabulous irony.

 

In response to your second paragraph, I agree the manager is the most important man at the club when it comes to the performance on the pitch. But who hires and fires managers? Who sanctions the million pounds of transfer fees and wages when a manager wants to sign a player? Who's responsible for getting the best price when a big club comes knocking for our best players?

 

And who is responsible for picking these players, developing and improving them so big clubs want them? Who picks the tactics and players to win matches, Who decides what players to sign? Man City and Chelsea have proven in recent season that you can have as much money as you like but the manager has to sign the right players and get them playing the right way or it all amounts to nothing. I suppose in many ways it's chicken and egg, but the fact is that clubs live and die by their performance on the pitch.As we have seen with Eddie Howe this season a decent manager can work wonders on limited resourses.

[Lighthouse]

I;ve amended actually. Dodd was out on loan most of that season so hadn't actually gone and was injured, Telfer and Fernandes featured little that season so weren't first team players, so yes it was a very different squad than the cup final side. Bloated with average or ageing players rather than a smaller squad of decent ones.

 

I don't want to go digging over old ground as 04/05 has been done to death, but there's more too it than just players. It all ultimately boils down to the chairman.

 

Killer injured - No suitable replacement found - Poor managerial decision - Wrong manager appointed - Chairman is responsible

Beattie out of form - Doesn't want to be here - Offers from Newcastle and Villa - Not cashing in on want away player - Chairman is responsible

Defence is shipping goals - Defence lacks quality and organisation - Manager incapable of organising team - Chairman is responsible

Redknapp fails to turn form around - Redknapp's heart isn't really in it - It's too little too late - Chairman is responsible

[Turkish]

So where is your evidence that there is any likelihood of a stand being named after Cortese "because he is a control freak"?

 

Like i said, absolutely EVERYTHING written on an internet forum is absolutely serious and needs to be back up with evidence. Lighten up FFS.

[St_Tel49]

Name me one other club that sings songs about their chairman.

Portmouth sang songs about Storey!.................Oh!

[Turkish]

I don't want to go digging over old ground as 04/05 has been done to death, but there's more too it than just players. It all ultimately boils down to the chairman.

 

Killer injured - No suitable replacement found - Poor managerial decision - Wrong manager appointed - Chairman is responsible

Beattie out of form - Doesn't want to be here - Offers from Newcastle and Villa - Not cashing in on want away player - Chairman is responsible

Defence is shipping goals - Defence lacks quality and organisation - Manager incapable of organising team - Chairman is responsible

Redknapp fails to turn form around - Redknapp's heart isn't really in it - It's too little too late - Chairman is responsible

 

Killer Injured, no replacement found? Jackobson, Davenport? Isn't that down to the manager?

Beattie Out of form- doesn't want to be here? Isn;t that down to the manager to drop him and give Crouch a chance? The only thing HR Did correctly in his time here.

Defence shipping goals - Isn't that down to the manager to sort out?

Redknapp fails to turn form around? To be fair to RL, he acted and got rid of Wigley, and replaced him with the best man available for the job, which he was at the time. What RL didnt do was back him in the transfer market enough when he was told by HR the squad wasn't good enough. That is the chairmans fault.

[scotty]

There certainly no standing ovation in kingsland north!! I remember some people clapping but no more than that.

 

 

nothing in kingsland corner either, except a few robs from the skates songs well before he went off.

[bowers-sfc]

I suppose you could say the northarm gave him a standing ovation???

 

Still a **** though

[COMEONYOUREDS]

There certainly no standing ovation in kingsland north!! I remember some people clapping but no more than that.

 

To be fair to Turkish, a lot of people stood up around me in block 35, i too questioned wtf was going on...

[niceandfriendly]

And the same bloke who brought in the booking fee, but that wouldn't affect you.

 

Aaaaaahhahahahaha! Oh noes!!! A booking fee?! A BOOKING FEE?????? WTF!!!!!! Let's get Nasty Nic out NOW!

 

Oh Dune, I assume you're just a WUM but if you're serious in all your posts then you're really quite a sad individual. Of course Cortese isn't above criticism, but one tiny increase in the cost of purchasing a ticket and you ignore all the positives he's brought us? Remember, without him we'd have never had Marcus. And anyway being a Tory shouldn't you be used to outrageous taxes and charges? Cortese should be some kind of role model for you.

 

Back on topic, there was no standing ovation for BWP, but a decent round of applause. It's embarrassing when fans boo past players for no reason, glad the majority of our fanbase seems to have stopped this. Obviously you'll always get a few sad acts like dune and Turkish in the Northam who enjoy dishing out abuse at anyone who comes into their eye line, but as long as they stay in the minority then there's no problem.

 

Yet another mental thread on Saintsweb - we're blessed with them aren't we?

[Saint_Jonny]

And the same bloke who brought in the booking fee, but that wouldn't affect you.

 

Get over it.

[Lighthouse]

With that reasoning we should have songs about Gladys the women who clean the chapel bogs, she may have not scored many 30yard screamers but she has an important job to fufil. Or Bob the bloke who sells you your half time pie and pint thats a really important job. What about the physio, chief scout or groundsman? all important in their own way.

 

Football fans sing about players thats the way it's always been and always should be. Thats not meant to take away what NC has achieved (with Markus's money) but it a simple fact that singing about your chairman (or any other non playing member of staff other than the manager) makes us look a bit sad.

 

All important jobs, but not half as important as the chairman.

 

Gladys the toilet cleaner... She could turn up to work, take a dump in a sink, wipe it around the walls, tip a few bottles of Cif on the floor and scream obscenities at the stewards. It still wouldn't have any major effect on the club. It's the same with Bob the pie man, Steve the groundsman, Jim the scout etc. They can all get it wrong without majorly effecting the club. The worst that can happen is a few cold pies, a lumpy pitch and we sign some no-hoper for Slovenia who leaves after 3 weeks.

 

Think we've hijacked this thread enough. I don't see a problem with people singing Cortese's name if they want.

[Guan 2.0]

Cutting through the hand-holding, it's clear that some people just don't like Cortese. It doesn't matter that he convinced Marcus to buy (and save) the club, for some he is just a 'rat faced foreigner', and always will be. Some people dislike him for the ticket tax, some people don't like it because they used to get their Tummy tickled by Wilde when they were on the board of fans that got Wilde's shares proxied to them, legitimising their stance on how things should be run ( until he disagreed and took them back, lol). Some don't like him for the so-called 'Ticket Tax' (Crime of the century!!!!111111one). And some don't like the way he closed the book the job's for the boys (Lawrie mac), jobs for the girls (Mary Corbett), and Job's for the Club historians (*winky thing here*)

 

So you read a lot of crap, such as:

- Cortese Banned Nick Illingsworth FROM THE STADIUM OMG! (A lie)

- Cortese Banned the Squad from an official 'Ex Saints' event (Another lie - He didn't, and It wasn't)

- Cortese has only as important as a bog cleaner to the club, and he bought a club on the verge of destruction and has invested in plans to build training facilities purely to make money, with no concern for the team or fans (I don't know where to start).

 

These claims are made repeatedly in the hope that they will become 'fact', by repetition, much like 'Lowe only gave Redknapp 90k to spend' or 'Clive Woodward sent us down'

 

so the next thing is "I can't believe any real fans would sing for a chairmen. Not us proper saints fans at any rate", in an effort to put people off.

 

Of course, some actually advocate this regardless, which is ludicrous within itself, and reminds me of 'What have the romans ever done for us'.

 

It's 'cringe worthy' to sing about Cortese? Would we have won the JPT, would we be in second now, would we even have a club? But no, you're right, let your sensibilities only allow you to repeat "Sit down, if you love Pompey" 500 times a match.

[KK the 2nd]

Back to BWP ...

 

It is hard to really understand why he is/was so popular. I think it has something to do with the general enjoyment he showed on the pitch and when scoring for us in the past.

 

Anyway, anyone notice he was laughing at the chant ...

 

"He’s always offside, He’s always offside, Bradley Wright Phillips, He’s always offside”

[doddisalegend]

Cutting through the hand-holding, it's clear that some people just don't like Cortese. It doesn't matter that he convinced Marcus to buy (and save) the club, for some he is just a 'rat faced foreigner', and always will be. Some people dislike him for the ticket tax, some people don't like it because they used to get their Tummy tickled by Wilde when they were on the board of fans that got Wilde's shares proxied to them, legitimising their stance on how things should be run ( until he disagreed and took them back, lol). Some don't like him for the so-called 'Ticket Tax' (Crime of the century!!!!111111one). And some don't like the way he closed the book the job's for the boys (Lawrie mac), jobs for the girls (Mary Corbett), and Job's for the Club historians (*winky thing here*)

 

So you read a lot of crap, such as:

- Cortese Banned Nick Illingsworth FROM THE STADIUM OMG! (A lie)

- Cortese Banned the Squad from an official 'Ex Saints' event (Another lie - He didn't, and It wasn't)

- Cortese has only as important as a bog cleaner to the club, and he bought a club on the verge of destruction and has invested in plans to build training facilities purely to make money, with no concern for the team or fans (I don't know where to start).

 

These claims are made repeatedly in the hope that they will become 'fact', by repetition, much like 'Lowe only gave Redknapp 90k to spend' or 'Clive Woodward sent us down'

 

so the next thing is "I can't believe any real fans would sing for a chairmen. Not us proper saints fans at any rate", in an effort to put people off.

 

Of course, some actually advocate this regardless, which is ludicrous within itself, and reminds me of 'What have the romans ever done for us'.

 

It's 'cringe worthy' to sing about Cortese? Would we have won the JPT, would we be in second now, would we even have a club? But no, you're right, let your sensibilities only allow you to repeat "Sit down, if you love Pompey" 500 times a match.

 

Erm yes OK. Personally it's not an anti NC thing it wouldn't matter who was chairman it's a wierd thing for fans to do IMO. Still I'm sure NC sleeps easy in his bed at night knowing you've got his back..............now you can back to scanning the boards for anything else that might be considered anti-NC and rush to his defence if it makes you feel like a real fan.

[JustMike]

And the same bloke who brought in the booking fee, but that wouldn't affect you.

 

 

you being a tory tax lover this still makes me laugh!

[Leicestersaint]

Does any of this matter? Surely we can be a bit bigger than this?

[Golden Balls]

A few people will never like Nicola and they will shout the loudest. Most fans will see what he's done for the club, sit back and laugh at those morons.

[Whitey Grandad]

Back to BWP ...

 

It is hard to really understand why he is/was so popular. I think it has something to do with the general enjoyment he showed on the pitch and when scoring for us in the past.

 

Anyway, anyone notice he was laughing at the chant ...

 

"He’s always offside, He’s always offside, Bradley Wright Phillips, He’s always offside”

 

Yes, I saw that too. It's nice to know that there is still a place for banter in the modern game.

[Turkish]

A few people will never like Nicola and they will shout the loudest. Most fans will see what he's done for the club, sit back and laugh at those morons.

 

It's not that at all, a lot of people think he is beyond criticism and panic that any word against him will see him get p*ssed off and walk away from SFC and pull the plug on us. There is no room for the middle ground with some. He has done some very good things for our club and the way he dealt with the attempts at unsettling AOC during January were superb, he has a vision and a drive to achieve it and i'd have him over Lowe, Wilde and Crouch as chairman everyday of the week.

 

That doesn't mean though that the things he does do cant be questioned. For example the season ticket arrangements this season were a shambles, released at the last minute and the removal of the payment plan without notice. THe way we've treat clubs and players when we've signed/attempted to sign players is questionable, Matt Phillips at Wycombe, Adkins move from S****horpe and the compenstion issue, Elliott Ward!! Rift with the media and the photographer ban made us a laughing stock, although in fairness he did back track on that eventually.

 

What people need to realise is that he has done some good things and is clearly determined to see his vision through, but that doesn't mean we cant question or like the stuff we dont agree with, some of you seem to think we should be eternally grateful and let them just carry on unquestioned.

[Block 5]

My mate stood up and applauded ironically.

[doddisalegend]

It's not that at all, a lot of people think he is beyond criticism and panic that any word against him will see him get p*ssed off and walk away from SFC and pull the plug on us. There is no room for the middle ground with some. He has done some very good things for our club and the way he dealt with the attempts at unsettling AOC during January were superb, he has a vision and a drive to achieve it and i'd have him over Lowe, Wilde and Crouch as chairman everyday of the week.

 

That doesn't mean though that the things he does do cant be questioned. For example the season ticket arrangements this season were a shambles, released at the last minute and the removal of the payment plan without notice. THe way we've treat clubs and players when we've signed/attempted to sign players is questionable, Matt Phillips at Wycombe, Adkins move from S****horpe and the compenstion issue, Elliott Ward!! Rift with the media and the photographer ban made us a laughing stock, although in fairness he did back track on that eventually.

 

What people need to realise is that he has done some good things and is clearly determined to see his vision through, but that doesn't mean we cant question or like the stuff we dont agree with, some of you seem to think we should be eternally grateful and let them just carry on unquestioned.

 

At last the voice of reason. I really don't have a problem with NC liked somethings he has done, been less impressed with other things. What really gets me are the little band of uber fans on here that get all wound up the second they sense anything less than 100% NC lovin'. Quickly turnning even the smallest throw away comment into some sort of personal attack against NC.

 

Football chairman should just get on with the job and keep quiet after a shaky start thats what NC is doing which makes him a good chairman IMO. I still think singing songs about him is gash though.

[Turkish]

At last the voice of reason. I really don't have a problem with NC liked somethings he has done, been less impressed with other things. What really gets me are the little band of uber fans on here that get all wound up the second they sense anything less than 100% NC lovin'. Quickly turnning even the smallest throw away comment into some sort of personal attack against NC.

 

Football chairman should just get on with the job and keep quiet after a shaky start thats what NC is doing which makes him a good chairman IMO. I still think singing songs about him is gash though.

 

Exactly, like my comment above about the Nicola Cortese stand being unveiled in July. Obviously a joke but some demand evidence of this and what reason i had for thinking he would name a stand after himself!

 

Singing songs about him is embarassing,

[Golden Balls]

It's not that at all, a lot of people think he is beyond criticism and panic that any word against him will see him get p*ssed off and walk away from SFC and pull the plug on us. There is no room for the middle ground with some. He has done some very good things for our club and the way he dealt with the attempts at unsettling AOC during January were superb, he has a vision and a drive to achieve it and i'd have him over Lowe, Wilde and Crouch as chairman everyday of the week.

 

That doesn't mean though that the things he does do cant be questioned. For example the season ticket arrangements this season were a shambles, released at the last minute and the removal of the payment plan without notice. THe way we've treat clubs and players when we've signed/attempted to sign players is questionable, Matt Phillips at Wycombe, Adkins move from S****horpe and the compenstion issue, Elliott Ward!! Rift with the media and the photographer ban made us a laughing stock, although in fairness he did back track on that eventually.

 

What people need to realise is that he has done some good things and is clearly determined to see his vision through, but that doesn't mean we cant question or like the stuff we dont agree with, some of you seem to think we should be eternally grateful and let them just carry on unquestioned.

 

No one is beyond criticism.

 

NC is good for this club without doubt. A small group on here will only bring up petty negitive issues they have. This booking fee thing has gone overboard from a certain someone. I live 150 miles away, if I need an extra ticket and want to avoid the £3, I can just ring a mate back home to pick me one up. If you're that passionate about paying it, it's easily avoided.

 

IMO, NC has done a wonderful thing turning this club around (with Markus obviously). He has made a few errors of judgement, but he seems the sort to learn from them. I can't think of many (if any) chairmen I'd rather have.

 

All seems a bit of a personal problem really.

[sidthesquid]

thanks for comfirming, so as a fan base we should be grateful to all sh*t ex players for playing for us, especially ones that earn £7k a week and steal from people who earn £7 an hour. We should also thank them for still being sh*t when they play against us in the future when they leave, It all makes sense now.

 

I don't think I confirmed any of that - just that we are decent people who don't hold a grudge. I thought he was useless and overrated & the theft thing was awful, but I am still prepared to give him a little bit of applause for the few good things he did and in gratitude that he is still not here

[Turkish]

No one is beyond criticism.

 

NC is good for this club without doubt. A small group on here will only bring up petty negitive issues they have. This booking fee thing has gone overboard from a certain someone. I live 150 miles away, if I need an extra ticket and want to avoid the £3, I can just ring a mate back home to pick me one up. If you're that passionate about paying it, it's easily avoided.

 

IMO, NC has done a wonderful thing turning this club around (with Markus obviously). He has made a few errors of judgement, but he seems the sort to learn from them. I can't think of many (if any) chairmen I'd rather have.

 

All seems a bit of a personal problem really.

 

but some seem to think he is. How many times have i read the works "they'll pull the plug on us", when people have been on here not happy about something. A total irrational fear that a bit of criticism will lead to a successful businessman packing his bags and walking away!

 

I personally couldn't give a toss who the chairman is, as long as the team is a success on the pitch, have committed players and play decent football. I got sick of hear Lowe in the media talking nonsense about characters in Star Trek and bible characters and the Lowe/Wilde/Crouch/hone squabbling some am glad NC keeps out of the spolight. I dont have an issue with the booking fee but can see why some would. He has been good for the club, but equally is an employee of the club, is not the messiah and has made mistakes and will make more. I think as fans and it pains me to say it, customers of SFC, we have a right to say when we aren't happy with the service, god knows we pay enough for it.

[Sour Mash]

At last the voice of reason. I really don't have a problem with NC liked somethings he has done, been less impressed with other things. What really gets me are the little band of uber fans on here that get all wound up the second they sense anything less than 100% NC lovin'. Quickly turnning even the smallest throw away comment into some sort of personal attack against NC.

 

Football chairman should just get on with the job and keep quiet after a shaky start thats what NC is doing which makes him a good chairman IMO. I still think singing songs about him is gash though.

 

Spot on. I don't know anyone that hates or even really dislikes NC, just find any hero worship of him weird to say the least and singing his name properly cringeworthy.

[Smirking_Saint]

And the same bloke who brought in the booking fee, but that wouldn't affect you.

 

I find that rather Ironic when you yourself do not live local and are a constant visitor to the match threads, and so, not at any games

 

Besides, most clubs hide their Booking fee, we publicise it, atleast we are being honest FFS.

[sadoldgit]

The bloke has brought us to the verge of promotion, you ungrateful twonk.

 

How many goals has he scored Alpine? I think perhaps some of the credit should go to the players and the coaching team. Oh and Pardew for bringing in so many decent players.

[latter day saint]

this thread has made me lol.

don't recall a standing ovation for BWP, just a smattering of applause. if people want to do this so what?

same with the song for Cortese. if you dont like it tough sh*t. other people obviously do, so there is not much you can do about it. unless you want to stand/sit there with your fingers in your ears?

[Kingsland Red]

I can confirm that apart from a few random folk clapping, the Kingsland stand around the press gantry were certainly not standing or many clapping BWP, who is still cr*p.

[aintforever]

It wasn't a standing ovation, why do people make stuff up just to moan about - bizarre.

 

The Cortese song is just embarrassing - that's why it's only sung by a few thick twonks in the Northam.